Wilwood Brakes Installed! [Archive]

Quicksilver

03-26-2003, 11:03 PM

And for those of you wondering, yes, those are Tein SS coilovers. Albeit a bit muddy:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid57/p99170b15d32006da08e974f08c828664/fc70818a.jpg

Suk02Si

03-27-2003, 02:23 AM

Good to hear Sherwin took care of you.

hmm, Tein's, Wilwoods, tires... I smell a track car or canyon killer:D

goy091

03-27-2003, 02:38 AM

oOo very nice. getting it ready for the track i assume? how much did those Tein SS's and Wilwoods set you back?

ssvr6

03-27-2003, 05:12 AM

Yeah, that's the big question..."How much?".

Steve

Gasp23

03-27-2003, 07:13 AM

Damn! your car is smoking!!!!! It looks awesome with the suspension, brake and wheel upgrade!

Congrats man!

Oh and how much for the breaks?

JackHerer

03-27-2003, 10:24 AM

will the wilwood fit over the stock rims????

Originally posted by Quicksilver
Wheel back on:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid57/p250336e55b52cbd9217cea51e50fa206/fc708182.jpg

Quicksilver

03-27-2003, 10:37 AM

The normal kit includes 2-piece rotors, forged (better than billet) 4-piston calipers, stainless steel brake line, EBC Green Stuff pads, and all the necessary mounting hardware. Total price: $750 plus shipping. Mine was a little more with the options I got. Shipping from from Southern California to Northern California was around $30.

I got a one-time deal from Fizz Autosports on the Teins since someone had cancelled their order after they'd already arrived. $925 shipped.

The car will eventually see a track. One of my friends took me for a ride in his race prepared Mustang and I was amazed at how much fun it was. I'm hoping to be able to take it to Laguna Seca and Infineon (formerly Sear Point), and possibly Thunder Hill and Willows. I wouldn't do it for competition as my car is my daily driver. I'd just be doing it for the fun of it. I've also got a Progress rear sway bar/tie bar on the back to help cut down on the understeer. It handles like a totally different car.

Quicksilver

03-27-2003, 10:41 AM

will the wilwood fit over the stock rims????

Minimum wheel size for this kit is 16". I've got 17" wheels with a 37mm offset and there is very good clearance between them. I could probably fit a pinky between the caliper and the wheel.

AkronSi

03-27-2003, 12:02 PM

:p

That is a sweet setup. Have fun with it. :D

chunky

03-27-2003, 12:26 PM

am I the only one that noticed the smiley face arrangement of the parts in the first pic? LOL.

what is the overall diameter of the new calipers/rotor?

I changed to the OZ superlegerra 15x7 wheels, and there is a LOT more clearance around the rotor, about an extra 1" or so. I really don't wanna go up from 15" wheels (tires are cheap in 15" :D )

I really would like to upgrade the calipers at some point to shave off some unsprung weight and get a stiffer pedal feel.

02SilverSiHB

03-27-2003, 12:31 PM

You are the freakin man! nice setup!

Quicksilver

03-27-2003, 05:23 PM

what is the overall diameter of the new calipers/rotor?

I'm not sure about overall diameter with the caliper, but the rotors themselves are 12.2"

Thank you for all of the positive feedback. I am really happy now that my suspensions pretty much done now. I can't wait to be able to get on these babies and see what they can do.

Kurtis

DownTheHatch

03-27-2003, 06:15 PM

Originally posted by chunky
am I the only one that noticed the smiley face arrangement of the parts in the first pic? LOL.

what is the overall diameter of the new calipers/rotor?

I changed to the OZ superlegerra 15x7 wheels, and there is a LOT more clearance around the rotor, about an extra 1" or so. I really don't wanna go up from 15" wheels (tires are cheap in 15" :D )

I really would like to upgrade the calipers at some point to shave off some unsprung weight and get a stiffer pedal feel.

LMAO I didn't notice that until you mentioned it, and after I looked at the pic again I about died laughing.

Rueda del Queso

03-27-2003, 06:47 PM

Ok, stupid question. Why only replace the front brakes, are the rear's just for the e-brake or are they just not as important as the fronts?

SmoothOperator

03-27-2003, 06:52 PM

I believe the front brakes do 60% of the work. Rears do 40%.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

chet

03-27-2003, 08:29 PM

They look great. I can't wait to get my setup from Sherwin. I went Auto-xing for the first time this past Saturday and can't wait to get my set. Nice choice.

Makross

03-27-2003, 09:24 PM

sweet setup :p :p

chunky

03-27-2003, 10:35 PM

Originally posted by Rueda del Queso
Ok, stupid question. Why only replace the front brakes, are the rear's just for the e-brake or are they just not as important as the fronts?

weight distribution on the car at rest is about 60/40.

when you hit the brakes, inertia causes MORE weight to transfer up front, so you get something like 80/20 during hard braking. so to reduce stopping distances, the front brakes are most important. Also, fade occurs almost exclusively in the front brakes as the rear brakes are always significantly cooler than the fronts.

However, it's still important to upgrade both front & rear brakes to ensure that your brake bias isn't thrown off (brake bias = the front/rear split of brake force) this is important for braking around turns and important for minimiznig dive during moderate braking.

Quicksilver

03-27-2003, 11:46 PM

The rear brake upgrade isn't available, but should just replace the stock rotor with a larger 2-piece unit. It's should just relocate the existing caliper with a bracket that move if further out. In theory is should be marginally lighter and offer some enhanced braking. Mostly it would be to balance out the look of the front and the rear.

Like it was stated earlier, about 80% of braking will be handled by the front during heavy braking due to the weight shifting to the front wheels. The proportioning between the front and rear should not need to be altered. I asked a lot of the same questions to Sherwin before I was sold on the kit. If you really need a more technical explaination of it, DocofMind should be able to explain in the correct terminology.

EP33

03-30-2003, 12:49 PM

Home Theater. . . .Big Brakes. . . .Home Theater. . . . .Big Brakes . . . .My stock rotors are warpped and my car vibrates like crazy at 85+:eek:

BIG BRAKES

Looks good, I am standing by for an update. Did you consider the cryogenic (sp?) freezing? I am and not the drilling or slotting.

Keep us updated.

Quicksilver

03-30-2003, 09:31 PM

Did you consider the cryogenic (sp?) freezing?

You know, you may have stumped me. I believe they are cryogenically frozen, but I could be wrong. Doc? Wanna chime in on that?

I am standing by for an update.

Again, I'll have the full write up shortly, but I just got back burnishing the brakes and rotors now that I've got 500 miles on it. I performed several stops from 65mph, starting at 40% brake pedal and progressively adding more braking with each successive pass. The brakes performed like champs. No fade. No uneven braking. And no lockup on any of the wheels, even during the heaviest braking. It also kept to an almost perfectly straight line, requiring only minimal adjustments.

While I don't have scientific data, I've got no doubt that I've significanly reduced my braking distances. It feels like I've got Z06 brakes now. It may take me a while to get used to being able to go deeping into corners before braking... :D

IceD out N CALI

03-30-2003, 09:48 PM

nice brake setup, and suspension setup, and wheel setup;)

LedFoot

04-03-2003, 12:27 PM

Nice setup!! My friend w/ Maxima has big brakes on her car and they are awesome. I'm sure u'll love 'em. Update us with more pics when u get your car back. :D

hamproof

04-03-2003, 12:32 PM

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid57/pfd1c4aa8c4c215111ceb9893d28fb63d/fc7081ca.jpg

Brettnyt

04-03-2003, 07:32 PM

BY GOD THEY ARE BEAUTIFUL! Sweet set up! Bet she stops quick...

golferjn

04-03-2003, 08:30 PM

nice setup. nice pics

XLR8B4U

04-30-2003, 08:59 AM

So can we get a view of the whole car now as it looks.
I want to see how these look in passing and under Superleggeras which I just ordered..

Thanks for this post! I looked on
Wilwoods page and it does not even show that these exist for this car. What car did you order them for to be able to use them?

Craig

HondaMan

04-30-2003, 09:53 AM

That has to be the best brake and suspension here! LOOKS SWEET! I'll keep dreaming of the day I can have the same setup. :cool:

AkronSi

04-30-2003, 10:16 AM

Originally posted by XLR8B4U
So can we get a view of the whole car now as it looks.
I want to see how these look in passing and under Superleggeras which I just ordered..

Thanks for this post! I looked on
Wilwoods page and it does not even show that these exist for this car. What car did you order them for to be able to use them?

Craig

He got them from "The Brake Zone thanks to DocofMind (aka Sherwin)"

I'm sure if you PM DocofMind he could set you up.

BlackNRedSi

04-30-2003, 10:22 AM

Originally posted by DownTheHatch

LMAO I didn't notice that until you mentioned it, and after I looked at the pic again I about died laughing.

HAHA, your kidding right DTH?! :) that was the first thing i saw, started crackin up!

Eric

BlackNRedSi

04-30-2003, 10:24 AM

Originally posted by Rueda del Queso
Ok, stupid question. Why only replace the front brakes, are the rear's just for the e-brake or are they just not as important as the fronts?

more expensive to do the front and the back as well too...gotta take that into consideration

2k3vbpEP

04-30-2003, 10:24 AM

Sweet, now I know of another thing I want to get.

Quicksilver

04-30-2003, 11:14 AM

I know people have been wanting to see pictures of my whole car now that the brakes are installed, but the weather here in Northern California has been mostly cloudy or raining every day this month. I've been waiting for some decent weather, and a chance to borrow my friend's nicer digital camera (mine's a $100 cheapy). The only pictures I have are cloudy day/grainy pre-install pictures, but you can get the idea from these what OZs and Teins look like on an Si. Here ya go:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid57/peb9ba8b572a8b993cd00646b7d3cb429/fc7081c5.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid57/p46014edd016d00f4dfef3e864593a124/fc7081bd.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid57/pb75ea3b8662c0f79ee8a6e67d2753ae8/fc7081b9.jpg

02SilverSiHB

04-30-2003, 02:21 PM

man, I wouldn't mind getting these...I'm thinking about getting hondata at this time, but for only about 300 more I could get them, but then I'm not sure if I want to, as I may want to used 15's for the track.

IceD out N CALI

04-30-2003, 02:27 PM

man, the oz superlegerras look nice on eps

hamlet9634

04-30-2003, 04:23 PM

since everyone is raving about these brakes.. I'll show you mine, too..

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid60/p1ebd7555987a56dd3e35df9da52199ec/fc50ef2d.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid60/p74dc6435e6a712b4262ee9d316024b8a/fc50ef0a.jpg

LeperCon

05-01-2003, 12:31 AM

Well, I hope to have pics in the next few weeks for you guys of those brakes and O.Z. Crono Evolutions, but for now I've got a couple of questions. Is the Tein Type SS setup a better deal for the money than the Type Flex? I am pricing the Type Flex right now for my car, along with these brakes, Energy Suspension motor mount inserts, Tanabe Super Hyper Medallion exhaust, and the D3 designs Chassis Stiffening Kit (if it ever comes out). If you can't tell, I've got a little money to burn, just got the rest of my enlistment bonus from the Navy and was planning on using it for this stuff (~$5500). Any opinions on all of the above items would be greatly apreciated.

Hamlet, is that a Buddy Club body kit that I see on your car? And what are those wheels?

Quicksilver

05-01-2003, 06:45 AM

Originally posted by LeperCon
Is the Tein Type SS setup a better deal for the money than the Type Flex?

In my case it was. I got them for a steal of a price at $925. Sorry to say, but this was a one-time offer on one set of SS. If it had been best price I could find for SS ($1050) vs. best price on Type Flex ($1580), I probably would have gotten the SS set again. For that extra $530 you get the ability to adjust ride height and spring preload independantly. You also get pillowball upper mounts (camber plates) which not only give you adjustable camber, but also give you a more solid connection between the car and the suspension. The spring rates on the Flex's are also a little higher by about 25-30%. And you also gain the ability to add the EDFC control module which the SS won't accept according to Tein.

If those additional features are important to you, then spend the extra money for them. For me, it wasn't worth the extra money especially considering the deal I got.

hamlet9634

05-01-2003, 01:51 PM

yup, that's a buddy club kit on my car (well, a replica anyway).

I think the kit looks great, except i wish the body shop didn't paint the grills silver along with the rest of the kit (i should have told them that in advance) because i think the kit just looks better with black mesh.. but oh well.. still looks nice to me.

and the wheels are Kosei K1 racing in 16x7.5 that i had powdercoated black. Less than 15lbs each and about $150 each.. so pretty good performance/price deal.. and i think they look pretty good again..