Turbo ep pics...finally...240hp/205tq...

[ADAMnQuickCIVIC]

Cybernation Kit:
http://www.cybernationmotorsports.com/photogallery/photo041/real.htm

:eek:

[BlackFL2k2Si]

I'm going to head down there soon to check out the kit. My buddy went there for his spring install and they were trying to get him to buy their turbo, even finance it from them. I want to see how it is in person before I think about doing anything crazy.

[ssvr6]

Holy shiet! (The wheels are spinning in my crazy mind...)

If you head down there, let me know, I'd like to take a ride too.


Steve

[EP33]

Looks hot under there. . .

[Suk02Si]

pretty nice, finally some real mods:D

[siver-SI]

Ok how much does that all cost? I have to say that is sweet.

[crex2nr]

please let me know how much that cost, ill take a drive to nj just to get it done

[ssvr6]

Why NJ? They're in FL.

:)


Steve

[crex2nr]

my bad!:o im just a little tired and misread, besides where in florida are they?

[DownTheHatch]

Sweet 240 to the wheels, wonder how much a cat back exhaust would improve those numbers?

[BlackFL2k2Si]

Crex, they are in Fort Lauderdale.

EDIT: Cause i'm a dumbass and assumed they are in Miami. 444 East Sunrise Blvd in fort lauderdale. I was talking to someone from their shop on Honda-Tech and refered him over to our site. Hopefully he will join up. Told me to come down and check out the Si.

[crex2nr]

in miami, im going there next month, driving down as a matter of fact and i would like to make a stop at the shop since ill be in miami lakes and south beach.

[IceD out N CALI]

sweet, i wish i could have me that

[golferjn]

nice numbers. cool pics

[SIxtasy]

HOLY SHIT!!!!!! 2 turbo kits in a week. I wonder if they have the same problems with fuel management as REVHARD? Oh well, I can't wait to see the numbers from Greddy and HKS. Laterz:eek: :eek: :eek:

[ssvr6]

I'm almost positive that they add a return fuel line with their kit, so no.


Steve

[Loudpedal]

The orange 90 degree elbow off the compressor looks kinda....homemade.

[ADAMnQuickCIVIC]

looks like a regular 90 deg. coupler to me.
homemade?

[turbotech]

Originally posted by ADAMnQuickCIVIC
looks like a regular 90 deg. coupler to me.
homemade?


The bend is a Turbonetics silicon hose.

A fuel return-line was used with the kit and they are no issues with the fuel management or tuning.

Cybernation has successfully turbo charged the RSX for some time now and the same kit is used with the EP except for the obvious difference in pluming. Other than that the EP was very easy to tune the car made power effortlessly and can easily make 300 to the wheels. Last year we installed a similar kit on a base model RSX, which uses the same engine as the EP. The car now has over 12,000 miles under boost with no problems running 12lbs. The EP made exactly the same 210ft of torque at 7psi, the same as a Type S RSX at 7psi.

The EP is extremely fast under boost, the RSX has nothing on it.

[-LAW-]

im planning on stopping by there sometime next week ... i always pass by the shop but not stop by hehehe :p

[SFla02si]

If you can, keep me informed about when or if a few people are going. I would love to go down and check out the place.

[bioevolve]

Competition from Dodge: SRT4 or something like that, turbo'ed neon with 215hp 245tq 14.2sec in the quarter (nice setup of a domestic car) all for $19,995
Price/Performance wise it can't be beat in the new car market for the price.

Anyways, After many atempts of getting an engine I want at a good price, I'm thinking of rebuilding my A3 w/ strong upgrades and putting the complete turbo kit from Cybernation 7-10psi (300hp ish) daily driver and turn it upto 20psi+ (450hp ish +) for the track.

[CleanBlackSi02]

I'd like to take that for a spin...
I'm worried about reliability with a made-to-order turbo kit.

[isaac biggin]

for god's sake,how much damn it.Must have......... must have.

[1320_si]

$$$$$$???????? HOW MUCH?

[Tekdemon]

I posted to ask this same question on an RSX forum where Cyber Nation actually posted but the guy hasn't responded yet =(

I guess you can go by their RSX kit pricing for an estimate though...I think it's like $3500 for the "basic" kit and $5000 for the complete kit...

[JruSi02]

looks great, i definately want it for my si, but how do you close the hood with that big filter stickin up right there?

[sniperSI]

screw competing with the SRT 4, we'll be putting evo8' on a leash.

[JoshSI]

if we get traction......Start saving for those LSDs guys!!!!!!!!

[ADAMnQuickCIVIC]

Originally posted by JoshSI
if we get traction......Start saving for those LSDs guys!!!!!!!!

LSD or not, civic's will never get traction on street tires w/ a turbo under the hood...
I've lost to 14 sec cars on the street w/ my old 12 sec 96 EX'...
Simply because the car would just sit and spin for a half hour...
I was deadly on the highway though! :eek:

[sniperSI]

....learn how to drive....

[Tekdemon]

how did you pull 12's then? did you use slicks for the 12?

Anyway, I'd definitely look into a good LSD unit if you go turbo...just makes sense =P I don't think the RSX-S's LSD can really handle too much power actually...so maybe a harder core unit is neccessary hehehe

240whp @ 7psi isn't bad...we can probably up the boost too with bigger injectors and fuel management...

Of course optimally you'd want to balance the engine out, steal some oil squirters from the A2 and rig it up, port and polish, new rods, pistons, and sleeve the thing =P (note that this is in no particular order so don't tell me that it doesn't make any sense the order I have it written as) then run 20psi....mmmmmmm

[ADAMnQuickCIVIC]

Originally posted by sniperSI
....learn how to drive....

LMAO!
I'd like to see you behind the wheel of a 350 HP Turbo FWD Civic running 15 psi on street tires.
You'd be praying for the clutch to slip.

[ADAMnQuickCIVIC]

Originally posted by Tekdemon
how did you pull 12's then? did you use slicks for the 12?


yea, on street tires i would run low 13's at about 112mph...
spinning 1st, 2nd and 3rd like crazy...

[EP33]

If someone can come out with a good NON BRAKING version of traction contorl for our cars (**F1 style**). . . . they'd be cool.

A company in England sells it. . . . .our cars are built there?



Someone in the UK please donate your Type R.

[Tekdemon]

Originally posted by ADAMnQuickCIVIC


yea, on street tires i would run low 13's at about 112mph...
spinning 1st, 2nd and 3rd like crazy...
Hmm...I wonder what tires the Dodge Neon SRT-4 uses...it's a FWD car with about the same amount of power(well actually it has more torque) and they probably outfit it with decent tires or it'd just spin like nust.

Of course it does have an LSD...

[SHAKEnBAKE]

Anyone know someone in So. Cal that can do turbos?
Please.:(

[ADAMnQuickCIVIC]

Originally posted by SHAKEnBAKE
Anyone know someone in So. Cal that can do turbos?
Please.:(

Not from So.Cal but i know there's probably an import shop on every corner...just find a reputable one...I know a great place but it's in Arizona...

[BlackJDMep]

hmmm... maybe..... :D

[waxcid trip]

"the complete basic kit runs $4460. This includes the turbo components, apexi S-afc, fuel pump, 550 injectors, air fuel gauge, boost gauge, and everything you need to
install it."

ryan

[ADAMnQuickCIVIC]

Originally posted by waxcid trip
"the complete basic kit runs $4460. This includes the turbo components, apexi S-afc, fuel pump, 550 injectors, air fuel gauge, boost gauge, and everything you need to
install it."

ryan

yea, a lil' pricey, most likely i'll be having my custom fabb'ed.
i'm too brokey broke.

[PoRT]

man i wish i had more cash, lol. i just spoke with chris over there and he said with my set up i would probably be running about 290hp at the wheels. lol, if they financed it for me, i'd buy right now. time to start saving. wonder if they'll sponsor me lmao:p

[Tekdemon]

port, you should run about the same as the RSX-S's get...

They get about 314HP @ 12 psi...290 @ 10 psi...250 @ 5-6 psi

So actually the regular K20A3 isn't far behind at all...you just have more RPMs and compression...

But the K20A3 can crank the boost higher...MUHAHAHAHAH =P

So it would kinda make your whole swap pointless...I dunno if that makes much sense to drop the K20A2 only to boost on it...wouldn't massasing the A3 have made more sense?

Oh nevermind, you're the dude who got the A2 on the cheap and sold your A3 for more right? =P

[Tekdemon]

I believe you can get a more stripped kit with the minimum needed to run boost...for $3510 you get:

- Turbonetics T3/T4 Hybrid Turbo
- Vortec FMU
- Turbonetics Delta Waste Gate 7psi
- Cybernation Custom Spearco Intercooler
- Inline Fuel pump
- Cybernation Custom Tubular Steel Turbo Manifold
- 2 1/4 inch Aluminum Intercooler piping
- Cybernation Custom 2 and 1/2 inch Flex Down pipe/with T3/T4 flange
- 8 foot braided stainless steel fuel line
- Oil pan tap
- Fuel line elbow
- 1 ft stainless steel braided hose turbo to oil pan
- Cybernation Electronic Boost EL&F Regulator code name "Black Magic"
- Intercooler hose and clam set
- Turbonetics Variable boost control regulator 0 to 10 psi/optional
- Greddy blow off valve

This is from the RSX kits and I asked the guy and he said it's the same kit with different piping to get stuff to fit...and that the pricing is identical(well duh).

Their complete kit looks different from the $4500 one listed here...the RSX complete kit was:
- Turbonetics T3/T4 Hybrid Turbo
- Apexi VAFC Fuel controller
- Vortec FMU
- Turbonetics Delta Waste Gate 7psi
- Cybernation Custom Spearco Intercooler
- Inline Fuel pump
- Cybernation Custom Tubular Steel Turbo Manifold
- Greddy Profect B boost Controller
- 2 1/4 inch Aluminum Intercooler piping
- Cybernation Custom 2 and 1/2 inch Flex Down pipe/with T3/T4 flange
- 440 injectors (optional 550 without FMU)
- In-tank fuel pump
- Autometer 30 psi boost gauge
- Autometer A/F gauge
- 8 foot braided stainless steel fuel line
- Oil pan tap
- Fuel line elbow
- 1 ft stainless steel braided hose turbo to oil pan
- Cybernation Electronic Boost EL&F Regulator code name "Black Magic"
- Intercooler hose and clam set
- Turbonetics Variable boost control regulator 0 to 10 psi/optional
- Greddy blow off valve
- K&N Cone filter

I dunno exactly which one would be better...hmm

[waxcid trip]

i dunno why the kit looks different. i just mailed the guy (i think his name was paul) asking him how much. that is what he quoted me. as it stands now, i'm about 2k short. if greddy doesn't release their's in the next 2 months, i'll be buying one from them.

ryan

[StrangeShadow]

man i wish i had more cash, lol. i just spoke with chris over there and he said with my set up i would probably be running about 290hp at the wheels. lol, if they financed it for me, i'd buy right now. time to start saving. wonder if they'll sponsor me lmao
just wondering, would a turbo for an k20a2(rsx-s) work better w/the a2?? Why buy a turbo for the k3 when you have a k2?
(note:I'm not being sarcastic, I really am just interested in knowing why)

[2k2_nbp_egg]

Originally posted by Tekdemon

Hmm...I wonder what tires the Dodge Neon SRT-4 uses...it's a FWD car with about the same amount of power(well actually it has more torque) and they probably outfit it with decent tires or it'd just spin like nust.

Of course it does have an LSD...

Originally posted by Tekdemon

Anyway, I'd definitely look into a good LSD unit if you go turbo...just makes sense =P I don't think the RSX-S's LSD can really handle too much power actually...so maybe a harder core unit is neccessary hehehe








Ahh! Stop it! Neither the RSX-S nor the SRT-4 have a limited slip differential. And Sniper Si, any FWD car w/ a very nice amount of TQ is gonna be a bitch to drive fast. Fuck yea torque steer!

p.s. who makes an LSD for our cars? Quaife? Phantom Grip?

[PoRT]

its the same exact turbo kit.. the RSX-S will not fit under my hood.. b/c its made for the RSX not the Si. if i get the Si kit, it will fit and its the same kit as the rxs

[StrangeShadow]

its the same exact turbo kit.. the RSX-S will not fit under my hood.. b/c its made for the RSX not the Si. if i get the Si kit, it will fit and its the same kit as the rxs
cool thanks port :)

[ADAMnQuickCIVIC]

Originally posted by 2k2_nbp_egg


p.s. who makes an LSD for our cars? Quaife? Phantom Grip?

I beleive Quaife has one out for our cars...
Read it somewhere, forget where though...
It's over $1000 I think...

[02civichatch]

Has anyone gotten any prices for the turbo before shipping? that woould be some nice shiz to be rippin this car! I showed my dad this who drives a vette and he was like ur lil p.o.s can bump out 240 to the wheels thats insane!

[turbotech]

Originally posted by 02civichatch
Has anyone gotten any prices for the turbo before shipping? that woould be some nice shiz to be rippin this car! I showed my dad this who drives a vette and he was like ur lil p.o.s can bump out 240 to the wheels thats insane!

The kit cost $4460 shipping is less than $100 anywhere in the US.

When are you guys comming to visit the shop.

[ssvr6]

Just got back from visiting with Paul and Lee.

http://www.k-series.com/news_detail.php?veh_id=Shops/CYB_04_03


Steve

[PoRT]

Their current RSX-S pushes 439whp with their kit and a few mods.


550cc Injectors
Pistons
Rods
Clutch
Lighthened Flywheel
and...25lbs of boost.

Not bad for a car that could probably run 11's on street tires.


This kit will work on the CTR, it's all about tweaking the fuel and timing. im sure they are not talking about the kit pushing 439 whp.. with 11.5-1 compression.. im tired, maybe i read it wrong lol

[02SilverSiHB]

Originally posted by ssvr6
Just got back from visiting with Paul and Lee.

http://www.k-series.com/news_detail.php?veh_id=Shops/CYB_04_03


Steve
man, steve! good job!

[StrangeShadow]

Ditto :Thumbs up: steve!!!

[ssvr6]

Considering the RSX-S is 11:1, the .5 wouldn't make that much difference. The base kit will work fine and with some tuning, I don't see why it wouldn't run with the K20a.


Steve

[02SilverSiHB]

Originally posted by ssvr6
Considering the RSX-S is 11:1, the .5 wouldn't make that much difference. The base kit will work fine and with some tuning, I don't see why it wouldn't run with the K20a.


Steve
they replaced the internals also, maybe the pistons are lowered compression.

[ssvr6]

They just installed the pistons and rods when they juiced it up to 439. Prior to that, they were running 15lbs on stock internals.


Steve

[PoRT]

so your saying i can run 15lbs of boost on my internals? if so, thats awesome

[Tenacious G]

what about their clutch and tranny? any significant changes there, steve?

btw, thanks for doing the interview and pics...looks great.

[l33t]

when i get one iam going to run about 11-13 psi, hopefully be at around 300 whp somewhere

[cmk05]

Can ! still get >29 mpg with this turbo? Or will I be filling up every 100 miles?

[ssvr6]

Now they're running a new clutch AND flywheel with their pistons and rods. It revs SOOOO damn quick.

As for running 15lbs every day, I don't think so. I think 10 would be safer on stock internals.


Steve

[ep pilot]

Jealous Californian here, no way C.A.R.B will allow us to install this on our cars and pass a smog inspection. I

[Tekdemon]

lol drop a K24A2 then =P