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Frank@XD.com
04-15-2003, 05:54 PM
It Finally arrived!!! Whooo Hooo
Here are some sneak peak pics of the kit!

Stay tuned for Part 2 when i actually install them :D

The Kit:
http://members.rogers.com/frank21/Extra/New%20HID%20Kit.JPG
http://members.rogers.com/frank21/Extra/New%20HID%20Kit4.JPG

The bulb:
http://members.rogers.com/frank21/Extra/H4%20High%20Low%20Bulb2.JPG
http://members.rogers.com/frank21/Extra/H4%20High%20Low%20Bulb3.JPG

Proper H4 Connector:
http://members.rogers.com/frank21/Extra/H4%20Plug.JPG

might get more attention here then the lighting forum

LordKoo
04-15-2003, 06:41 PM
Dude,
How much did you pay for that kit?

ssvr6
04-15-2003, 06:50 PM
I'm pretty sure it was free since he works for them. :)

Please let us know about the details.


Steve

Jpax
04-15-2003, 06:54 PM
Wonder how i can get a kit like that? hummm :o

Pm me :angel:

golferjn
04-15-2003, 07:08 PM
nice

Type X
04-15-2003, 07:48 PM
i ordered mine from Xeondepot.com

thanks Frank :)


if anyone needs specific how to and detailing install in an EP

when my kit arrives i will put up a How to ;)

- Mike

02SilverSiHB
04-15-2003, 07:51 PM
Originally posted by Type X
i ordered mine from Xeondepot.com

thanks Frank :)


if anyone needs specific how to and detailing install in an EP

when my kit arrives i will put up a How to ;)

- Mike
awsome! can't wait :p

IceD out N CALI
04-15-2003, 08:28 PM
Originally posted by 02SilverSiHB

awsome! can't wait :p

me too :)

HondaMan
04-15-2003, 08:30 PM
Originally posted by 02SilverSiHB

awsome! can't wait :p

Ditto!

Makross
04-15-2003, 08:44 PM
i cant wait either:cool:

IchBinEinSiR
04-15-2003, 09:33 PM
Like it... what's it cost?

spoon3168
04-15-2003, 10:36 PM
i seen that kit b4, but after some guy say about the ep electrical wiring that might not work. that's why i didn't buy it, it cost alot of money, i want ppl to install it first and work properly, might think of buying it..i want pic.....that is on the car..:D
i'm refering to this link..
solution for HIDs yet? (http://ephatch.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4916&highlight=HID)

Suk02Si
04-15-2003, 11:35 PM
That's pretty cool; can't wait to see how it works.:)

spoon3168
04-16-2003, 05:49 AM
i want to know if the cover boot seal the bulb good enough to prevent condensation, coz i know that catz HID hy/lo cover the bulb good enough to prevent condesation in the headlight... but still dunno if works with out wiring harness..:o

Will2K2
04-16-2003, 05:52 AM
I saw the banner here, emailed them asking there best possible price for me (Ottawa) and

I HAVE NOT RECEIVED A RESPONSE

its been over a week since I e-mailed

WTF is with that

is this an indication of the customer service to be expected from the Xenon Depot?

W

EP33
04-16-2003, 06:24 AM
You got dem lights on yet??



Hurr up!:D

AznPower
04-16-2003, 10:12 AM
how much, how much?

streaker666
04-16-2003, 10:19 AM
Would anyone be able to tell me whether or not HIDs are legal or not? I've been hearing things, and their website also had a statement warning about the legality of these lights, here it is:

"Are these XENON HID light systems street legal?

Every jurisdiction has its own rules and regulations governing the use of automotive lighting. XENON HID lighting systems that are supplied with the vehicles from the factory are DOT approved. Our kits are also made by the same OEM manufacturers that supply all the major car companies of the world. NO XENON HID lighting system available from any source is DOT approved if installed outside of the factory. Moreover, in the U.S, this is not street legal for use on public roads. As a result, we officially endorse the kit for exhibition and off-road use and will only sell the kit to be used for these purposes. We are not responsible for buyers who violate the terms of sale while in which they will assume all responsibilities for any unauthorized or unintended use other than exhibition or off-road use."

So not officially legal??

mhx
04-16-2003, 10:46 AM
any mods to lights = waste of money

hamproof
04-16-2003, 11:42 AM
I beg to differ. HID lights are just so much better. It is not just about the white/blue color. They give out so much more light and wider coverage too.

I'm not sure if you have experience driving in the night time with HIDs. It is practically day and night difference even if you have the HID look bulbs from Sylvania or PIAA.

RyteN2Ep3
04-16-2003, 12:19 PM
i see that you finally got your hid kit... nice job!!
so whats the kelvin set on those??? post some pics of it at night for us.......

sniperSI
04-16-2003, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by mhx
any mods to lights = waste of money


word, buy performance.

BarracksSi
04-16-2003, 01:19 PM
Of course, by the "buy performance" statement, one could argue that brighter headlights perform better. And, if they actually draw less wattage, then they won't be as much of a drag on the electrical system.

AAAAANYWAYS.....

What about the long term "livability" of HIDs? What happens when they crap out, are these kinds of kits definitely reliable, etc.?

Frank@XD.com
04-17-2003, 09:47 PM
Originally posted by Will2K2
I saw the banner here, emailed them asking there best possible price for me (Ottawa) and

I HAVE NOT RECEIVED A RESPONSE

its been over a week since I e-mailed

WTF is with that

is this an indication of the customer service to be expected from the Xenon Depot?

W

Will, sorry about not responding to your email.

We are currently working hard to update the website.

Pricing will be available soon (possibly the weekend)

Sorry that you are upset, please feel free to check out www.clubrsx.com to see our service reputation.

Installed pics will be up as soon as i get around to installing the kit, its cold here and not enough garage space to do a nice clean install!

Frank!

ep pilot
04-18-2003, 01:11 AM
Let us Know when you get the kit installed, I'm ready to load up a set of these for my car. I would like to know what temps are avail for our kit in the Hi/low pkg.

I am glad I didn't bite the bullet last month and get a non Hi/low kit.... that's the only reason I didn't get it. sometimes I come up so fast behind people on the freeway, I got to flash to pass so they don't jump out in front of me.


-Ryan

XenonDepot
04-18-2003, 04:18 PM
Hello,

Thank-you for your interest. In regards to your posts:

1) PRICING:

Philips 4100k High/Low - $499.99 + $19.99 (Shipping, handeling, and insurance)

Philips 5000k High/Low - $514.99 + $19.99 (shippin, handeling, and insurance)

Philips 6000k Ultinon High/Low - $609.99 + $19.99 (shipping, handeling & Insurance).

I apologize for the delayed response however we are in the midst of updating our website, order form ,etc......

You guys just got to see a little sneak peak of whats coming down the pipe. :D

In regards to legality, NO hid kit that is installed outside the factory can be considered street legal. It is very similar to lowering your vehicle, having an open cone filter, nitrous, etc.....

Having said that however, the XenonDepot HID kit will offer you a proper beam pattern and certain adjustments have been made to help reduce glare. Furthermore, you will now NOT lose your high beam functionality thus if a police officer does stop you and ask you to flash your high beams you can do so.

On another not, the colour temperatures that XenonDepot offers are anywhere from 4100k-6000k. Some HID kits will claim to have colour temperatures of 7000k, 75000k, etc... however this is not an indication of how bright the bulb actually is. It is an inidication of what colour the kit will produce. The higher the K the less useable light output you actually get. The best example I have seen is that a black light is approx 12000K and that has almost no useable light what so ever. The reason I bring this up is because the XenonDepot HID kits will primarliy have a white output:

4100k - Bright White
5000k - Bright White with a bluish tinge
6000k - Bright White with a purupulish tinge.

So no only will higher K provide you with less useable light output they will also attract the attention of police officers given that they stray farther from natural white output.

I realize that we are a new vendor on this forum however I urge all of you to perform a search on the different search engines under XenonDepot and see what kind of feedback you come up with. Our HID conversion kits are definitely not the most economical however that is not out goal. Our goal is to provide automotive enthusiasts with a proper quality product.


Hope This Helps,

Steve

PS Our updated site should be up by the end of the weekend as our webdesigners are working around the clock to update our info.

LordKoo
04-18-2003, 10:19 PM
Steve,

How about a groupdeal on this HID kits for EP members?

Frank@XD.com
04-18-2003, 10:22 PM
Pricing is posted up top^

I will have the installed pics on my EK in about a hour or so, just d/l them from the camera!

Frank

Frank@XD.com
04-18-2003, 10:52 PM
AS PROMISED, INSTALLED PICS :D :D :

This is the 4k kit installed.

The pics are very basic, using a cheap $100 Digi Cam :( I also have to still adjust the beam a bit lower.

Bumper Off:
http://members.rogers.com/frank21/HIDPics/Bumper%20off.JPG

Back of the headlight, bulb installed:
http://members.rogers.com/frank21/HIDPics/backheadlight3.JPG

H4 Connector:
http://members.rogers.com/frank21/HIDPics/H4Connector.JPG

Ballast Mounted:
http://members.rogers.com/frank21/HIDPics/BallastMounted.JPG

Wiring:
http://members.rogers.com/frank21/HIDPics/Wiring1.JPG

Headlight on:
http://members.rogers.com/frank21/HIDPics/Lights%20on2.JPG
.................................................. .....

Frank@XD.com
04-18-2003, 10:53 PM
................................ CONTINUED :D

http://members.rogers.com/frank21/HIDPics/HeadlightCloseup.JPG

Low Beam:
http://members.rogers.com/frank21/HIDPics/WallBeam.JPG

High Beam:
http://members.rogers.com/frank21/HIDPics/WallBeam4.JPG

Road Pic:
http://members.rogers.com/frank21/HIDPics/RoadPics2.JPG
http://members.rogers.com/frank21/HIDPics/RoadPics3.JPG

Left to right: 6kGSR, 4kSIR, Halogen Benz Coupe:
http://members.rogers.com/frank21/HIDPics/3CarCompare5.JPG
http://members.rogers.com/frank21/HIDPics/3CarCompare6.JPG

Left to Right: Halogen Benz, 4k SIR, 6k GSR:
http://members.rogers.com/frank21/HIDPics/3CarCompare2.JPG

SWEET :eek:

XenonDepot
04-19-2003, 09:09 AM
LordKoo,

XenonDepot has priced these kits very competitively. The reason we have done so is because we will be dropping our H4 single beam conversion (only low beam). We feel that for a minimal dffernce in price, people would be more likely to purchase the high/low beam kit and to be completely honest with you we prefer that they would. $499.99 for a TRUE Philips HID kit (both ballasts and bulbs), all the necessary wiring, proper connectors, fuses, relays, etc..... Is honestly an amazing price. Take a look at the pics above to see what the kit comes with.. You be the judge!

Regards,

Steve

RiceCzechs
04-19-2003, 06:35 PM
Looks pretty good... I might be interested, but I've got a couple of questions... what's the replacement bulb cost on the Phillips, and what sort of bulb life should one receive (assuming proper installation)? I'm not normally one to futz with the electronics of my automobiles, so I'm kind of curious how difficult you would rate the install, what the estimated install time is, and how much I could possibly expect a shop to pay to do it for me, should I chicken out... Thanks!

XenonDepot
04-19-2003, 07:04 PM
Hello,

As per your post:

1) The price of replacement bulbs is the most expensive part of the kit. This is why you are better off spending a little bit more initially on a kit that uses quality components (quality bulbs and ballasts) as opposed to spending less on a kit that uses inferior components and having to replace parts down the road. Philips bulbs typically range from approx $130-150 / bulb. Furthermore, the XenonDepot HID kit comes with a legitimate 1 year warranty (both bulbs & ballasts)

2) According to Philips, their bulbs are designed to last approx 2500 hours. HID bulbs do not have a coil thus making them more durable than halogen bulbs given that they are not prone to damage done by road vibrations (especially on lowered cars).

3)Installation - Installation is very easy. The hardes part of the process is removing the front bumper. Keep in mind that this might not be 100% necessary however it does make a very neat installation. There are no wires to cut, mods to make, etc... Everything is plug+play...

Hope This Helps,

Steve

SiRRider
04-21-2003, 07:34 AM
SWEEEEET!!!!!!

Suk02Si
04-22-2003, 01:13 AM
Originally posted by mhx
any mods to lights = waste of money

Without the proper lighting you could fall off the side of a canyon;) :D

XenonDepot
04-22-2003, 05:29 AM
Hello,

Once you drive with HIDs you simply wont go back to halogen. Its literallly a night and day difference. Its a modification that you will appreciate every time you drive your car at night. The nice thing is that its not a mod that will leave you questioning whether or not you made power, was it worth it, do I feel a difference, etc..... You enjoy it no matter how fast your drive.

Regards,

Steve

XenonDepot
04-22-2003, 08:08 AM
1 more thing

Type X should have his kit by tomorrow (some delays because of the holidays) so he will give you his opinion on the issue :D

Regards,

Steve

LordKoo
04-22-2003, 08:37 AM
2500hrs of bulb life is not very long is it?

That is what holding me back from buying...

XenonDepot
04-22-2003, 08:44 AM
thats pretty much the longest you'll find for HID bulbs.

But think about it for second:

2500 hours driving at an average of 70Km =

2500 x 70 = 175,000. That doesnt seem like a long time to you? I personally like to switch cars before my car gets that high...;)

Regards,


Steve

XenonDepot
04-22-2003, 08:45 AM
And dont forget that the XenonDepot HID kit comes with a legitimate 1 year warranty - both bulbs and ballasts.

Regards,

Steve

02SiBlk
04-22-2003, 02:42 PM
Since these improve vision while driving at night, why are they illegal?

XenonDepot
04-22-2003, 05:26 PM
There are several reasons as to why aftermarket HID kits are considered to be illegal or not for "street use."

1) Your housings are designed for halogen as opposed to HIDs.
2) XenonDepot is not the only HID provider as there are many other companies that provide HID solutions. The problem is that just like everythin else in the performance market there are many improper solutions. Many people try to make their own HID kits and do not realize that their "chop-shop" solutions end up blinding other drivers thus being hazardous for road use. Colour temperature is also an issue. There are many HID providers out there that will try to sell you 7000k, 64000k, etc... however the problem is that these kits are more colour oriented as opposed to actual light output oriented. Many people get those kits because they are more concerned with what colour output their lights have as opposed to how much useable light output they actually emit. Please check out our technology section of the website for more information.


On that note, I would like to say that NO aftermarket HID kit will be as good as OEM HID - just being honest however the XenonDepot HID is put together properly and will offer you the same beam pattern as your halogen headlights. Glare shields have been added to your H4 applications and the kit is beam pattern corrected.

Hope This Helps,

Steve

ROKsi
04-24-2003, 06:58 AM
I just ordered your H4 5000k high/low. Awesome pricing that rivals just the basic H4 lowbeam kits. I purchased a Catz kit a while back but was unhappy with the idea of losing my high beams and realized that it was more of a hassle than it was worth. I wish I would have waited for the group buy, but I couldn't wait!!:D

XenonDepot
04-24-2003, 01:25 PM
Thank-you sir!

I will email you with a tracking number as soon as the kit goes out.

Regards,

Steve

Frank@XD.com
04-24-2003, 04:48 PM
Guys, a couple of days review:

I LOVE THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

they are truly awesome!!

Everything is so bright!! And not to mention i still have high beams :D

I will hopefully have some updated pics this weekend!!

keep you guys posted!

Type X
04-24-2003, 06:52 PM
Originally posted by Frank@XD.com
Guys, a couple of days review:

I LOVE THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

they are truly awesome!!

Everything is so bright!! And not to mention i still have high beams :D

I will hopefully have some updated pics this weekend!!

keep you guys posted!


got the kit today

it was deliverd yesterday but i installed it today with the help
of joshuavtec and nate

took about 45 min

step by step install and street pix up later in the weekend :)

thanks XenonDepot.com

-Mike

XenonDepot
04-25-2003, 12:21 AM
Glad to hear it Mike!!

Looking forward to the pics!

Regards,

Steve

hamproof
04-25-2003, 06:11 AM
Some OEM HIDs have self-adjusting motors. As your car goes up and down a hill, it points up and down based on the inclination/declination as to not blind the oncoming cars.

I don't believe any aftermarket HIDs offer this. At least not at the $500 price point.

Some OEM HIDs in US also have headlight washers. In Europe, I believe it is mandatory. Some Honda cars in Europe has them. The headlight washers are there not because it is cool or another gadget to have. On Audis, for example, it is pretty amusing to see the washer popup from the bumper, sprays and goes down again. Almost like underground lawn sprinkler system. The washers are there because dirt, grime etc. throws off the light and could cause glare.

Improperly aimed HIDs light can also blind the oncoming car. There's a chance if the car wasn't meant for HIDs and you put HIDs in there, the angle or height of the light might not be the best for HIDs though good for halogens.



Originally posted by XenonDepot
There are several reasons as to why aftermarket HID kits are considered to be illegal or not for "street use."

1) Your housings are designed for halogen as opposed to HIDs.
2) XenonDepot is not the only HID provider as there are many other companies that provide HID solutions. The problem is that just like everythin else in the performance market there are many improper solutions. Many people try to make their own HID kits and do not realize that their "chop-shop" solutions end up blinding other drivers thus being hazardous for road use. Colour temperature is also an issue. There are many HID providers out there that will try to sell you 7000k, 64000k, etc... however the problem is that these kits are more colour oriented as opposed to actual light output oriented. Many people get those kits because they are more concerned with what colour output their lights have as opposed to how much useable light output they actually emit. Please check out our technology section of the website for more information.Steve

XenonDepot
04-30-2003, 11:43 AM
Hello,

We have been receiving numerous emails from people requesting us to set up a group buy.

My question to you is this:

IF we were able to offer you guys a further reduced price how many of you would be interested in joining this group buy? I want to work with you guys so I will do my best to offer you the best price possible however I need to know approx how many people would be interested??

PLEASE POST HERE:

http://ephatch.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12574&highlight=hid

Regards,

Steve