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cadoodoo
05-31-2003, 08:16 AM
what's the differences between sir, type r and si???

Jodster
05-31-2003, 08:43 AM
The SI and SIR are the same. SI is in the US and the SIR is in Canada. The SIR is what the US SI is called in Canada. The Type R is over seas. It has the K20A2(RSX type S) motor in it, 5-lug wheels, lip kit, spoiler, and other things I've left out.

SubliminalSi
05-31-2003, 09:39 AM
Originally posted by Jodster
The SI and SIR are the same. SI is in the US and the SIR is in Canada. The SIR is what the US SI is called in Canada. The Type R is over seas. It has the K20A2(RSX type S) motor in it, 5-lug wheels, lip kit, spoiler, and other things I've left out.
and the type-r is cooler:cool:

Brettnyt
05-31-2003, 10:24 AM
Doesnt SiR have daytime running lights and heated mirrors or something?

fyzm7357
05-31-2003, 10:33 AM
Originally posted by Brettnyt
Doesnt SiR have daytime running lights and heated mirrors or something?

Bingo....and they also have a low windshield washer fluid indicator on their gauge cluster....

ATRIOT
05-31-2003, 10:51 AM
We also have the ever important larger windshield washer fluid bottle.

TrippZ
05-31-2003, 11:30 AM
Originally posted by Jodster
The SI and SIR are the same. SI is in the US and the SIR is in Canada. The SIR is what the US SI is called in Canada. The Type R is over seas. It has the K20A2(RSX type S) motor in it, 5-lug wheels, lip kit, spoiler, and other things I've left out.

um... it has the k20a motor...

the si in canada is the ex in usa

Jodster
05-31-2003, 11:39 AM
Originally posted by TrippZ


um... it has the k20a motor...

the si in canada is the ex in usa

Its a K20A2 in the CTR not K20A Thats the RSX type R

TrippZ
05-31-2003, 11:43 AM
are you for real?

that means if i got a rsx-s swap i could technically hang with a ctr?

thats fuckin' rad.

klik
05-31-2003, 11:50 AM
hhahahaha K20A2 in a CTR, men u dont know what yah talkin about the CTR runs a K20A1, and even not a K20A thats for ITR
just to make it clear for ya all

klik
05-31-2003, 11:52 AM
Originally posted by TrippZ
are you for real?

that means if i got a rsx-s swap i could technically hang with a ctr?

thats fuckin' rad.

Nah men a CTR has a 212 horses on it it will shit on a RSXs
know the K series engines guys

Jodster
05-31-2003, 12:00 PM
2002 HONDA CIVIC TYPE R
Estimated Price : About $21,000

Engine
Engine Code : K20C
Type : Inline four, aluminum block and head
Valvetrain : DOHC, four valves per cylinder,
i-VTEC variable valve timing
Displacement : 1998cc: 86.0 mm x 86.0mm
Compression Ratio : 11.0:1
Claimed Crank Hp : 200 hp @ 7400 rpm
Claimed Crank Torque : 145 lb-ft @5900 rpm
Redline : 7900 rpm

Drivetrain
Layout : Transverse front engine,
front-wheel drive

Transmission
Gear Ratios
1 : 3.266:1
2 : 2.130:1
3 : 1.517:1
4 : 1.147:1
5 : 0.921:1
6 : 0.738:1
Final drive : 4.388:1
Differential : Torque-sensitive helical limited-slip
Chassis
Chassis Code : EP3

Exterior Dimensions
Curb Weight : 2654 lbs
Weight Distribution F/R : 61/39
Overall Length : 172.3 in.
Wheelbase : 101.2 in.
Overall Width : 67.9 in.
Track F/R : 58.3 in./58.4 in.
Height : 55.1 in.

Suspension
Front : MacPherson Strut, antiroll bar
Rear : Double wishbone with
semi-trailing lower
control arm and lateral upper
control arm, anti-roll bar

Brakes
Front : 11.8-inch vented discs,
single piston sliding calipers
Rear : 10.2-inch solid discs, single piston
sliding calipers

Wheels and Tires
Wheels : 17 x 7-inch aluminum
Tires : 205/45R-17

I don't know if this info is correct or not, but here is where I found it.
CTR (http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/roadtests/0205scc_typer/)

Will some one please help with the info.

codepig
05-31-2003, 01:03 PM
wtf?
I thought that:
Civic Si(R) engine = RSX engine (k20a3)
Civic Type R engine = RSX-S engine (k20a2)

Sanchothepanda
05-31-2003, 10:05 PM
CTR has the RSXs engine
Si has RSX engine w/ exception of intake manifold

http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/tech/0212scc_civichybrid/

^^ instructions and details ^^

Mugen_EP
05-31-2003, 10:12 PM
I hate to correct but it is like this.....

K20A- 220 HP ITR
K20A1- 215 HP CTR
K20A2 - 200 HP RSX Type S
K20A3 - 160 HP BASE RSX and Si

tsa1
05-31-2003, 10:59 PM
wait... the JDM CTR has a detuned K20A from the ITR for 215hp or ps... the european CTR has a K20A2 with 197hp or am i mistaken.

Brettnyt
05-31-2003, 11:11 PM
Uh yeah, atleast by my knowledge (minimal) i believe that the ITR has the K20A, rated at 220HP... The CTR and RSX Type S share the K20A2, rated for 200HP... We share our engine with the base RSX and produce 160HP... where am i wrong?

klik
06-01-2003, 12:25 AM
Originally posted by Mugen_EP
I hate to correct but it is like this.....

K20A- 220 HP ITR
K20A1- 215 HP CTR
K20A2 - 200 HP RSX Type S
K20A3 - 160 HP BASE RSX and Si

Thats correct thats what i say, so dont get u all confuse here

klik
06-01-2003, 12:28 AM
The CTR JDM has a K20A1 thats all i know, but i dont think it has the RSX K20a2 on it.
ours has a K20A3 like the base RSX thats straightforward

TezGari
08-03-2003, 10:26 PM
What work to an (Si or SiR) engines would have to be done in order to fit the Civic Type R pistons? Type S head? etc..just curious?

EP3_DC5
08-03-2003, 11:10 PM
UK CTR has K20A2 motor.

JLannoo
08-04-2003, 05:02 AM
LOL this thread is funny to read. Makes it look like we have no clue what we are talking about.

its this...no its this....sorry guys its this.....but wait its this....hold on a sec its this LOL :D

ssvr6
08-04-2003, 05:20 AM
Here it is, the final word on this: ;)


ITR (RSX-R) : K20A (220hp)
CTR (JDM) : K20A1 (215hp)
CTR (UK) : K20A2 (200hp)
RSX-S : K20A2 (200hp)
RSX : K20A3 (160hp)
Si/SiR : K20A3 (160hp)

Those are ALL of the K20's that are available from H/A.


Steve