A little discussion about RICE....

[c0mf0rt]

There's alot of talk about RICE in our neck of the woods.... everyone seems to have their own definition... I understand it to be doing things WAY over the top... or adding things that have absoloutely no place on a car... especially when they're extremely cheap products such as APC etc....

My question is... how is having Autometer Tach w/shiftlite RICE when adding a body kit isn't???? I mean at least the one deals with performance... I understand the kits look nice... and add alot to the car... but how can someone who spends say $300 bucks on a spoiler pass judgment on anything ???? Adding a little bling here and there in my opinion is a great thing... maybe it helps you feel a little pride in your work... as long as you have the performance to back it up...

We each have our feelings about GO or SHOW... but I'd like to know how you guys feel about this... I mean ... people adding excessive accessories is alright.... as long as you're not adding dozens of cheap parts (APC,Ractive, etc.)..... keep your products nice... face it we all have a little rice... Whether it's a set of 17" rims, a VERY large tach, Indiglo guages, body kits for bling, or carbon fiber interior trim....

Let's get real boyz.... thanks for lettin me vent!

[i-WERKS]

I think this rice shit is getting out of hand. It has come to the point where if you're not following the trends of modifying a car, then you're a ricer.
I'm not the type that likes to follow trends. I do what makes me happy and so do many others out there but once they put on a sticker or something they like very much, then they become a ricer.
There are some things that just plain look ugly and I know people buy them because their cheap (nozzle lights) but not everyone has the money for a swap or turbo. That's why the resort to cheap mods like exhaust tips. People gotta understand that it's a hobby and some people have more to spend than others. Different people have different tastes and i think everyone should respect that.

[CivicHB]

to each their own...yeah right:'(

[CivicHB]

Daily driver?:confused:

[i-WERKS]

^^ ok ok, you win. that's a little too much. Isn't the CRX front wheel drive? what's with the slicks in the rear?

[CivicHB]

JDM titanium exhuast. It's just a hobby...

[CivicHB]

I agree with you guys but keep in mind some people don't do for the passion of motorsport, who realy knows what their motives are...

[SiR Medic]

To me, RICE is any mod, or even a stock feature, that adds nothing to the function of a car. Especially if it throws subtlety out the window.

Do you find your car has trouble staying on the ground when you drive down the highway? If you do... put a wing on it! If not... leave it alone!

My pet peeve is fake hood scoops. Not just the ones that APC makes and people put them on their hood (unpainted:confused: ) I absolutely DESPISE the current Mustang... Fake hood scoop and fake side scoops,

As far as a tach goes... Do you find the stock tach not accurate enough? If so, by all means, install an aftermarket one.

Bodykits? Well they do add VERY little in the way of performance. Some help reduce downforce a small amount, some "widebody" kits allow for wider tires. When done right, bodykits CAN be a subtle way to make your ride stand out... Done WRONG... They are the very worst RICE.

[smokincivic]

Originally posted by i-WERKS
^^ ok ok, you win. that's a little too much. Isn't the CRX front wheel drive? what's with the slicks in the rear?

ya, but the CRX also comes with a 4 cyl. LOL Major custom work on the crx, custom driveline with a custom rear end and a V8 (don't remember how big it is and I'm not good enough to tell just by looking)

[KeNnYtAkEr]

Hahahaha wtf is that benz/crap conversion but made a mistake some way though... SIGH....

Anyways I think that the some rice gear like the engine dress upkits r alright.. after all it's what the driver wants to have at the end of the day right? Not always out to say I have JDM this and that.

:cool:

[GeNoZiDe]

i guess to say would be some rice in moderation is okay
but when u go over kill your a RICER!!! LOL
everyone has some rice!! ;)

[KeNnYtAkEr]

Agreed GeNoZiDe:D

[tony speed]

to me..rice is trying to make your car look fast when it really isn't....altezzas...stickers.....emblems.....loud coffee-can mufflers.....ultra body kits.....and if you get offended, hey, rice is rice. if that's what you like do it, but it's still rice to the tuners. lesson: work on performance first, looks later.

i wonder what to call these american cars with axles long enough to kill bystanders.

[dustinhurley]

To me, rice is puting a Mugen emblem on a replica Mugen wing or puting a Type-R emblem on an Si. It also extends to buying replica parts, like fake Buddy Club ground effects. Rice is not looking a certain way, or spending the least amount. Rice can only be associated with what a person does to their car in order to imitate the appearance of something that the car or part is not.

For example, I personally think altezza style lights are ugly, but they are rice because that person wants to imitate a Toyota Altezza, not because they are ugly. Fake Buddy Club body kits are rice because they are imitating real Buddy Club parts, not because they cost less. I wouldn't consider a cheap cat-back exhaust, like Nakayame, rice because it really isn't directly imitating something. I would just consider that an unfortunate purchase. Graphics aren't rice either because they are no different than a body kit or wheels. They are put on simply to improve the appearance of the car, not to make it look faster or something.

I would consider an EP3 with Type-R emblems, replica body kit with Type-R stickers on skirts, and replica Mugen wing with a Mugen emblem on it a lot more rice than I would a 92 Civic dx with a cheap coffee can muffler, American Racing wheels, and an Aerospeed front mount intake.

The definition of rice will vary from person to person, and it will change with time as trends in the automotive industry change. It is important to distinguish rice from a plain bad part (Type-R emblem Vs. cheap exhaust). It is also important to distinguish two parts that are the same style versus one part being an exact copy of the real part. I do agree that there is a little rice in us all. I have lots of JDM stuff on my USDM car, plus a replica Type-R spoiler. But, as long as I keep the Type-R emblems off, Its still acceptable. Rice cannot be associated with a certain look or a certain amount of money spent. Again, it can only be associated with what a person does to their car in order to imitate the appearance of something that the car or part is not.

[chubbychu]

wow, to be honest we could talk about this all day, trying to justify what is rice and what isnt...where do we draw the line?

should we just say everything Aftermarket is rice?

just adding my opinion, rice is...modding to the point of tackiness. now, tackiness varies from person to person, so what i think is rice, might not be to someone else.

[SiR_d1]

having a bit of RICE in your car is normal because has some sort of rice in their car. But being a RICER is a competely different thing

[chunky]

Originally posted by dustinhurley
To me, rice is puting a Mugen emblem on a replica Mugen wing or puting a Type-R emblem on an Si. It also extends to buying replica parts, like fake Buddy Club ground effects. Rice is not looking a certain way, or spending the least amount. Rice can only be associated with what a person does to their car in order to imitate the appearance of something that the car or part is not.

For example, I personally think altezza style lights are ugly, but they are rice because that person wants to imitate a Toyota Altezza, not because they are ugly. Fake Buddy Club body kits are rice because they are imitating real Buddy Club parts, not because they cost less. I wouldn't consider a cheap cat-back exhaust, like Nakayame, rice because it really isn't directly imitating something. I would just consider that an unfortunate purchase. Graphics aren't rice either because they are no different than a body kit or wheels. They are put on simply to improve the appearance of the car, not to make it look faster or something.

I would consider an EP3 with Type-R emblems, replica body kit with Type-R stickers on skirts, and replica Mugen wing with a Mugen emblem on it a lot more rice than I would a 92 Civic dx with a cheap coffee can muffler, American Racing wheels, and an Aerospeed front mount intake.

The definition of rice will vary from person to person, and it will change with time as trends in the automotive industry change. It is important to distinguish rice from a plain bad part (Type-R emblem Vs. cheap exhaust). It is also important to distinguish two parts that are the same style versus one part being an exact copy of the real part. I do agree that there is a little rice in us all. I have lots of JDM stuff on my USDM car, plus a replica Type-R spoiler. But, as long as I keep the Type-R emblems off, Its still acceptable. Rice cannot be associated with a certain look or a certain amount of money spent. Again, it can only be associated with what a person does to their car in order to imitate the appearance of something that the car or part is not.

so I guess anyone with rota wheels would be a ricer?

rice isn't about wether something is a cheap knock off - rice is as tonyspeed says, about wanting the LOOK of speed.

rice originally described all the hondas with the crazy bodykits that made the car look like a race car, when it really still had a dinky stock motor.

More or less, that's what I call rice.

There's plenty of other stuff that annoys me about cars - led washer nozzles, led valve stem caps, underbody lighting, tail lights that are impossible to see in the daylight, etc. But all that really isn't "rice" to me, it's just annoying crap.

rice applies specifically to import cars trying to look fast.

[silver]

i can't stand it when exhausts are being compared and one of them is labeled as ricey sounding due to a high pitch rasp. it always turns out to be like a 5zigen fireball, or hks, or tanabe or something. it's like me saying i don't want to get an rsr mag exhaust because it sounds like rice. loud doesn't=rice, loud equals what a car sounds like with no muffler, if lots of people's rationale for what a ricey exhaust sounds like were the norm, than all the cars in the jgtc would be rice.

sorry, just had to vent.

[Zero Three Si]

I had to laugh when my brother in law called me a ricer because I put H&R springs on my car.

I put him in his place when I reminded him that he drives a beetle and has lowering springs.

[fsugatorbait]

lol, a guy driving a lowered beetle, now thats something you dont see everyday. :)

[esmith13]

Don't mind me... I'm just here to listen to the bickering... :D

Eric

[Zero Three Si]

Originally posted by fsugatorbait
lol, a guy driving a lowered beetle, now thats something you dont see everyday. :)

Not to mention a 250HP lowered beetle driven by a 6'8, 150lbs guy. The thing is even yellow to top it off. Ummm ......ATTENTION WHORE!

[fsugatorbait]

Originally posted by Zero Three Si
Not to mention a 250HP lowered beetle driven by a 6'8, 150lbs guy. The thing is even yellow to top it off. Ummm ......ATTENTION WHORE!

Please tell me he removed the flower from the dash.

[esmith13]

The plastic flower is a $100 OPTION! You have to PAY for it!!

... Can you believe that???

Eric

[fsugatorbait]

Originally posted by esmith13
The plastic flower is a $100 OPTION! You have to PAY for it!!

... Can you believe that???

Eric

that has to be one of the most God awful 'accessories' I have ever heard of. I think I lost all respect for VW. :confused:

[Peking]

Originally posted by Zero Three Si
I had to laugh when my brother in law called me a ricer because I put H&R springs on my car.
I put him in his place when I reminded him that he drives a beetle and has lowering springs.

Guys at work call me a car snob :p Just because I express the differences between us and the Rice.

Also the sister of my best friend is dating this SOB who drives a 00 Civic EX. Has all the ricer goodies, stickers, neon lights, etc. He thinks his car is the sh*t, and loves to tell me all the stuff he wants to do with it. I really hate him :mad: Actually he isn't that bad of a guy, just thinks he is better than other people. He is a ricer, I will post a pic next time he is around.

[Zero Three Si]

Originally posted by fsugatorbait
Please tell me he removed the flower from the dash.

Yes and replaced it with a spatula. He calls himself the Spatula of Love...hehehehehe :D

I will give him his props...it is a fast car.

[esmith13]

I love the new beetle - for what it is...

I wouldn't be caught dead in one, but I'd buy a turbo beetle for my wife in a heartbeat! ;)

Eric

[fsugatorbait]

Im with E on this one. Id definately be a car id by for my girl but never anything id consider owning myself.

At least he didnt rice it out. Sounds like after he fugged up by buying the car he cleared his head and got the mods for it right.

[Zero Three Si]

Originally posted by fsugatorbait
Im with E on this one. Id definately be a car id by for my girl but never anything id consider owning myself.

At least he didnt rice it out. Sounds like after he fugged up by buying the car he cleared his head and got the mods for it right.

Yup, he's got the mods for it. Springs, bigger turbo, stage 3 clutch, flywheel, pullys, etc....I think he's running like 9-11psi

[evilep3]

<rant>
imho i think that rice is trying to make your car appear to be something it is not. I own an SI and i love it. i wish it was a CTR but it isnt and will never be. Even if i had a CTR swap and CTR body kit it is still an SI. Was micheal jackson born white? Does he claim to be white? No! just be proud that you own a nice ride like the si and stop putting type r sitckers all over the fucking place. And if you are a lucky bastard who owns a CTR or SIR then I hate you...;) j/k
</rant>

anyway thats what i think...
i also think that bug's are gay!:D

[Miranda]

...goes good with chicken!!!;)

[esmith13]

Originally posted by fsugatorbait
...Sounds like after he fugged up by buying the car he cleared his head and got the mods for it right.

I dunno, man... Beetles ride LOW to begin with... It must look SLAMMED with lowering springs!!

Eric

[EMI]

it all depends on the trends. it is funny how someone can put so much effort into a car just to get shot down as being rice because that is his exspression of his style. We all have our own opinons and views of the perfect car. People don't have respect for others work and they exspect to be respected for theirs. If you go like on honda-tech and see the people that are ripping on others cars and look at theirs, most of the time theirs are worse :)

[MolonLabe]

I'm pretty tolerant of other people's mods, in my opinion you hot rod what you have, and broke people can be just as enthusiastic about cars as rich ones.

That being said, the way I feel about "rice" is alot like how an old judge once described obscenity in a porn case: he said I can't tell you what it is, but I can tell you when I see it.

I saw the worst example of rice just the other day, I really wished I'd had my digicam with me so I could share with my friends. Guy is driving slow in the left lane in a clapped out old maroon Chevy Lumina 4 door. Worst ricer I've ever seen and it wasn't even an import. The first thing you notice are the 13 inch wheels that stick out about 4 inches from the fenders. They are old and rusty, the wire-spoke kind that were very popular among lowriders a few years back and aren't anymore. The whole thing screamed "pawn shop". Then you notice the huge rear wing, its a "universal" type that you'd get out of a J.C. Whitney catalog, bolted to the trunk with bolts that probably were once shiny but are now rusted. The wing is huge, taller than the roofline of the car. The car is lowered and is bouncing around with every bump, he probably just cut the springs and the ride has to be punishing. As I go past him I can see yellowish-white APC stickers on every window including a huge one on the rear window. The car is so rusty that there are holes in the quarter panels above the wheelwells, but the factory chrome trim is still in place, which makes it look even worse because that's how you know where the fender SHOULD be. It was so bad that I didn't even laugh at him, I just felt sorry for him in the way that you feel sad when you see a retarded kid get happy when a butterfly lands on his wheelchair.

THAT's rice. :yellm: