whats up with B series??

[hondafiend02]

how come everyone with b series is acting like we are not honda just like them ????they need to realize that are engines come from the same company!

[TezGari]

Originally posted by hondafiend02
how come everyone with b series is acting like we are not honda just like them ????they need to realize that are engines come from the same company!

Change is bad...Stay away from change......Thats the thought they probally have....But acording (accord) to honda they seem to know what thier doing with the K...Effecient power/economiclly better...:) ....But the B engines are nice, the performace parts out thier make them so popular....I still love the B engines and K...........IF i had a choice between k or b, it would be K...The RSX S motor!!....Butt all to his own, what ever makes u happy.....

[DX4U2NV]

i have a D series (D15B7). i envy you guys! i only have 102 HP hehe. i still have fun with it tho. if/when i get an engine swap i still won't have beef. :D

[JLannoo]

Originally posted by DX4U2NV
i have a D series (D15B7). i envy you guys! i only have 102 HP hehe. i still have fun with it tho. if/when i get an engine swap i still won't have beef. :D


I have that engine in my del Sol :)

[StrangeShadow]

jealous haters :p

[02SiHB]

Here's why. The B-series have been around for a long ass time... It's the weapon of choice for most honda guys. But contrary to popular belief, it takes alot of money to makes these engines rediculously fast.

Listen, everytime I get some punk ass kid with a b16, 18 in a CRX giving me shit I say, "who hasn't dropped a b-series in a CRX/Civic?" and it pisses them off to no end.

And if you don't want to stay brand loyal, the 4g63 DSM motor OWNZ the B-seires in every way tuning wise. For 10 grand, you'll be in a 10 second car with the 4g63.. with 10 grand and a b-series.. You'll be scratching your head wondering why you're not going anywhere.

But back on topic, anyone with a swapped b-series thinks they are hot shit and ready to tear up anything on the street. Believe it or not, alot of these "b-series-bitches" have shit against guys running the h22/h23-VTEC setup. Can we say "0wnage?"

Out with the old, in with the new... I honestly think they are pissed that the i-vtec swap is becoming more popular, and swapping a 1.6, 1.8, 2.0 b-series motor isn't the all the rage anymore.

[StrangeShadow]

Ditto

[TezGari]

I concur.....H22.....:D ....The Toyota/Nissan Engines are more appealing than the B engines, but i love em all!!

[RiCeCoOkEr1280]

Originally posted by 02SiHB

But back on topic, anyone with a swapped b-series thinks they are hot shit and ready to tear up anything on the street. Believe it or not, alot of these "b-series-bitches" have shit against guys running the h22/h23-VTEC setup. Can we say "0wnage?"


Amen to that. I have a friend who thinks he is HONDA GOD just because he swapped in his b16 by himself into an eg coupe. His mods consists of ctr cams, intake & headers. He beat me by a car when we got into third cause his redline was flashed to 8700, and because of that, he thinks he's Stephen Papidakis (spelling). That H22 setup will fuck him up. And as far as the k-series, the a2 owns if built correctly. Just my two cents.

Paul

Edit: I forgot to mention his car is stripped, and you know how light eg's get when the back is empty.

[EGadvanBOI]

Originally posted by hondafiend02
how come everyone with b series is acting like we are not honda just like them ????they need to realize that are engines come from the same company! hey hondafiend dont take it up the ass the b series cats just wanna test there shit cats like you are just mad cause ur valve covers dont say vtec dont get me wrong , im not hate'n but k series peeps there the shit too , but who gives a fuck anyways? we all drive hb's were all one big happy family ,aight then im out!

[redronin22]

i wish it were that simple. i get hit up alot by old hatches n what not always trying to race. But the worse are those damn 7th gen coupes. They are the biggest ricers out there imo. But i have seen many 6th gens reppin the way of the rice.

[redronin22]

im also happy that the hatches seen to have less ricey owners, maybe cus yu cant fit a double stack wing onto the hatch like u can a coupe?

[EGadvanBOI]

yah i think people w/ hb respect there car more than other people! i love the way my stock eg looks as will as the ef ek and ofcouse the ep thay just got that tight look to them. but the cats with hatchs know how to rep...

[stubbs]

Im a CRX Prelude man, so I'm out of this one. I am perfectly happy to be dropping a B16 in the CRX.

[DX4U2NV]

Originally posted by redronin22
im also happy that the hatches seen to have less ricey owners, maybe cus yu cant fit a double stack wing onto the hatch like u can a coupe?
maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan, i GUARANTEE you that some ricer has seen or will see that and me like "o dam dawg, dat's a PHAT idea!"... i hate you. :D

[redronin22]

Originally posted by DX4U2NV

maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan, i GUARANTEE you that some ricer has seen or will see that and me like "o dam dawg, dat's a PHAT idea!"... i hate you. :D

omg what have i done =-(

[tsa1]

i feel kinda sorry for the owners of the 7thgen civics, that d17 is a horrible engine. i mean they could add intake, headers and an exhaust but for only 5 more hp. they feel stupid for not getting a EP for almost the same price.

[George Knighton]

A few ITR owners have EP3 as daily drivers.

If you need someone to defend the K-tribe, just give us a call.

[StrangeShadow]

...:( I've seen a few shopping cart/push cart wings on hatches in my area...but my K spanked them...even with their major down force...provided by their shopping carts. :p

[rewsnaeht]

Originally posted by 02SiHB
Here's why. The B-series have been around for a long ass time... It's the weapon of choice for most honda guys. But contrary to popular belief, it takes alot of money to makes these engines rediculously fast.

Listen, everytime I get some punk ass kid with a b16, 18 in a CRX giving me shit I say, "who hasn't dropped a b-series in a CRX/Civic?" and it pisses them off to no end.

And if you don't want to stay brand loyal, the 4g63 DSM motor OWNZ the B-seires in every way tuning wise. For 10 grand, you'll be in a 10 second car with the 4g63.. with 10 grand and a b-series.. You'll be scratching your head wondering why you're not going anywhere.

But back on topic, anyone with a swapped b-series thinks they are hot shit and ready to tear up anything on the street. Believe it or not, alot of these "b-series-bitches" have shit against guys running the h22/h23-VTEC setup. Can we say "0wnage?"

Out with the old, in with the new... I honestly think they are pissed that the i-vtec swap is becoming more popular, and swapping a 1.6, 1.8, 2.0 b-series motor isn't the all the rage anymore.

Sounds like someone is stuck on the "I have the almightly K series" pedestal. I like both engines. I have a B series and Ill be purchasing a RSX-S shortly. That statement about the ag63 is about the most ignorant thing ive heard. 10k in mods into a b series would kick ass, your looking at a fully built 500whp turbo motor, put that in a sub 2000lb EG hatch and youll be running 10's just as well. hell a EG with an ITR motor with boltons runs low 12's as is. Who has shit against people running H22's? K series is a better motor, its newer, ANYONE can tell you that. But currently, its just more expensive to make fast because of the price/lack of parts, and the fact that all the chassis that have K series are much heavier than the previus cars (2000lb EG's, 2500lb DC's).

and no, it DOESNT take alot of money to make a B series fast. Visit hondatech and youll see. 200whp in a gutted EG hatch means low 12's high 11's with slicks all day long.

And no, im not "trolling", my best buddy who passed away had a RSX and we were planning on turboing it the next week. good motors. just dont bash a b series and expect not to get bashed back.

[KickerSi]

I know why most of my friends with B-seires motor think they are the shit and make fun of our K-series. Its b/c they can kick my ass everytime and the fact that our shitty motors dont have the true vtec feeling as compared to a b16, and we are fuel savers. But in the end we have the last laugh, the great Honda company has stoped producing B series motors so if they blow up, they are FU#$. HAHAHA. K-series to the end!!!!!!!

[hondafiend02]

the whole reason i started this thred was just to say that b series and k series all honda so dont hate your own kind just have a fun competition or somthin i duno

[IceD out N CALI]

who cares, its all honda anyway;)

[02SiHB]

Originally posted by rewsnaeht


Sounds like someone is stuck on the "I have the almightly K series" pedestal. I like both engines. I have a B series and Ill be purchasing a RSX-S shortly. That statement about the ag63 is about the most ignorant thing ive heard. 10k in mods into a b series would kick ass, your looking at a fully built 500whp turbo motor, put that in a sub 2000lb EG hatch and youll be running 10's just as well. hell a EG with an ITR motor with boltons runs low 12's as is. Who has shit against people running H22's? K series is a better motor, its newer, ANYONE can tell you that. But currently, its just more expensive to make fast because of the price/lack of parts, and the fact that all the chassis that have K series are much heavier than the previus cars (2000lb EG's, 2500lb DC's).

and no, it DOESNT take alot of money to make a B series fast. Visit hondatech and youll see. 200whp in a gutted EG hatch means low 12's high 11's with slicks all day long.

And no, im not "trolling", my best buddy who passed away had a RSX and we were planning on turboing it the next week. good motors. just dont bash a b series and expect not to get bashed back.


I think you missed my point, son.

What I was trying to convey is that a 1g 4g63 AWD Turbocharged talon/eclipse/laser that cost $2500 to buy will beat the pants off an RSX-S that someone paid easily over 19g's for.

You can run 400hp on that motor on a stock turbo.

Yeah, an ITR is a cool car. But wow it also looks cool in the rear view of a propane injected Galant VR-4 that's running 12's and *gasp*.... It only cost $2500 too!!!!!

I like the k-series.

And contrary to what you think. I like the b-series too... Maybe I've spent too much time over at Club Si and listen to those guys bitch and whine and moan about the k.

Sub 2000lb hatch running 10s? wow, am I supposed to be impressed? That's probably not a steetable car, but I wopnt speculate.

Almighty, k-series potantial? Hardly. I use it to get to work man.
:rolleyes: Either way. 10 grand into a DSM vs. 10 grand into a honda.. I think we all know who will be faster at the end of the day.

I'm not mad at you for making blind assumptions, I just wanted to kindly let you know while were working on a piece of shit, raggedy ass DSM, and have put about 5 grand into it.. It will greatly dismantle anything your overpriced Type-S has to offer..

Good day.

EDIT: I decided to add more just for fun.

Your b-series isn't shit. I'm tired of you people... In the spectrum of things, the b-series is a flash in the pan when it comes to import tuning.. Oh wow! b16 in a 99-00 Si!!!!!!! Oh my god, we can all die and go to ricer hell now. Jesus, you sound like you're the one that needs to get off the HONDA trip.

Oh and for the record, im not and import enthusiast, im not a domestic enthusiast... im an automobile enthusiast.. I have respect for many cars.. but the b16 is an econobox, not a performance engine... just like the k20a3. Bring on the flames.
Don't bash the b-series and I wont get bashed? I'll bash anything I think sucks because I can back it up. I've worked with big block domestics (one i am currently persuing), some hondas (Del Sol, Civic coupe, Civic hatch), a few BMWs, a Volvo for christs sake, 4.6L fords, and a few others.. and I have to say the b16 was the least impressive of any of the motors.. The 1.6 just cant cut it.. (no not even against the volvo)

[hondafiend02]

sounds like somones on ther period lol -----chill out dude you need a vacation o yeah if you a car guy like you say there is another element wich you forgot to mention and that is what we call style my friend we all know ther are fast affordable baseline cars but they look like shyt ass buckets. The ep and rsx will always get the style points if it wins or losses -lol

[02SiHB]

Originally posted by hondafiend02
sounds like somones on ther period lol -----chill out dude you need a vacation

Just defending my original post. I'm a nice guy, I swear. :D

[hondafiend02]

lol - hey why do arguements spark up so easy on forums - if arguements sparked up this easy in person ther would be so many fist fights over nothin lol

[02SiHB]

Cause people can hide behind a computer screen, and behind that screen someone always has a friend of a friend of a friend.

They also have endless resources like google which makes every kid with a dial up connection a certified technician.

You can't really call bullshit on the net unless someone is really dumb.

[StrangeShadow]

You can't really call bullshit on the net unless someone is really dumb.
rofl

[sniperSI]

Originally posted by rewsnaeht


Sounds like someone is stuck on the "I have the almightly K series" pedestal. I like both engines. I have a B series and Ill be purchasing a RSX-S shortly. That statement about the ag63 is about the most ignorant thing ive heard. 10k in mods into a b series would kick ass, your looking at a fully built 500whp turbo motor, put that in a sub 2000lb EG hatch and youll be running 10's just as well. hell a EG with an ITR motor with boltons runs low 12's as is. Who has shit against people running H22's? K series is a better motor, its newer, ANYONE can tell you that. But currently, its just more expensive to make fast because of the price/lack of parts, and the fact that all the chassis that have K series are much heavier than the previus cars (2000lb EG's, 2500lb DC's).

and no, it DOESNT take alot of money to make a B series fast. Visit hondatech and youll see. 200whp in a gutted EG hatch means low 12's high 11's with slicks all day long.

And no, im not "trolling", my best buddy who passed away had a RSX and we were planning on turboing it the next week. good motors. just dont bash a b series and expect not to get bashed back.



b series is just old, dollar for dollar a k series will eat up a b series w/ mods.

Let me see a b series that is n/a pushing out 300+ hp to the wheels.

[sniperSI]

10 grand into a DSM vs. 10 grand into a honda.. I think we all know who will be faster at the end of the day.


I think hytech can show you what 10 grand can do to a k engine.


less we forget the 10 grand stage 3 turbos pushing out close to 900 hp on k-series.

[stubbs]

Yes maybe, but a stock Kmotor will never handle it. Bang for the buck is always better with ANY factory turbo car.

[StrangeShadow]

...factoy turbos suck fat D$#@...talking usdm turbos...BUT even the tuners in japan swap out their jdm fatory turbos for bigger/powerful/better turbos...I guess they do that for fun...

[stubbs]

Yes but all you have to do is swap it, BANG FOR BUCK RATIO. A NA car needs a whole kit, a stock turbo needs a swap, get it.

[StrangeShadow]

I see what you're saying now, sorry about that, I think with the low cost of our 'particular' car though, then the whole kit, it would still be alittle cheaper probably not as reliable as a stock one but a plus is you get to pick what turbo, intercooler and manufactor.

[stubbs]

Well the DSM's I'm speaking of are the 95-99 Eclipses, you can pick them up for between 8 and 15 grand now, my roomate is buying one, thats how I know. That is cheaper than an EP isn't it?

[hondafiend02]

im just saying ther isnt a reason to give attitudes you can have a pinto run 10's so it doesnt matter who is better. we have the same love for imports so we shouldnt fight with eachother lets go pick fights with escorts and caviliers! lol

[stubbs]

Hondafiend it happens with all cars though. To you a 4th gen Camaro is just that, a 4th gen, not to Camaro guys. To them it's LT1 cars and LS1 cars and they are 10 times worse than what I have seen from the B series, k series wars.

[hondafiend02]

yeah ther is probly alot of rivalry i just think that k vs b series should be a friendly rivalry thats all --i swear im going to punch the next b series driver in the face that trys to clown my car :)

[siver-SI]

I have been wondering but can not find this out I have two hondas in the shop what series motor are they please?

1986 Accord 2.0 (single carb)
1988 Prelude 2.0 (twin carb)

[StrangeShadow]

Well the DSM's I'm speaking of are the 95-99 Eclipses, you can pick them up for between 8 and 15 grand now, my roomate is buying one, thats how I know. That is cheaper than an EP isn't it?
yep, that's pretty good, very good infact...a buddy of mine has one, got it pretty cheap too, I've just heard a lot of the oem turbos in these start to lag right away, my buddy's did too, have you heard anything on this? maybe it's just a particular year that runs into lag right away.

[stubbs]

Tell him to lay the money out for a boost controller, it's about 300 for a good one, he won't believe the difference. Eclipses have a lot of potential. The stock turbo will handle up to 350HP so you have some room to work. A good CAI, a downpipe, a cat back and he won't believe it's the same car.