2 questions!!!

[civic hatch boi]

1. There are 2 cars. 1 with hondata. both equal drivers, both shift at 6.8k. would it be a tie?

2. Does Shell gas provide better mileage now? Their commercials say it gives better mileage.

[anjapower]

based on my personal experience (my Hondata'd EP3 vs. my friend's stock EP3) they are dead even if shifted at 6.8k.

[civic hatch boi]

damn that's crappy... blah with hondata.

[IceD out N CALI]

basically just extra redline?

[Tenacious G]

who the hell would shift at the stock redline if racing w/ hondata?

[civic hatch boi]

Originally posted by Tenacious G
who the hell would shift at the stock redline if racing w/ hondata?

i know they wouldn't.. but i'm just curious if hondata provides MORE than just the redline... and it doesn't...

[IceD out N CALI]

does that mean you're not going to get it? i know you've been back and forth on it for months

[civic hatch boi]

yeah... stil iffy.. it sucks that it only gives you the increased redline...

[Type X]

yea but in the 1/4

the hondata guy will shift 3 gears

while the OEM ECU guy shifts 4

thats why our cars have poopie 1/4 times

[DX4U2NV]

based on my personal experience (my Hondata'd EP3 vs. my friend's stock EP3) they are dead even if shifted at 6.8k. how is this possible? Hondata lets you tweak your air/fuel tables and the VTEC changeover point... right?

[Jpax]

Originally posted by DX4U2NV
how is this possible? Hondata lets you tweak your air/fuel tables and the VTEC changeover point... right?


The K20A3-Si program advances the ignition, alters the cam timing and optimizes the fuel for a cold air intake, adding 4-9 ft lb across the rev range.

so basicaly you Get a PRESET fuel map, and ignition timing. :o

[phatfreeza]

yo someone answer the question about the shell gasoline...inquiring minds want to know ;)

[Surprise]

Originally posted by phatfreeza
yo someone answer the question about the shell gasoline...inquiring minds want to know ;)

If it is true you know that it will be a small amount of gain. Afterall they want you to buy more gas, not less!

[irrational]

since we're talkin gas now..... i only use two gasses, chevron or 76. 76 seems to give me more power while chevron gives me better gas milage. no shit. i have noticed this over years and years.

[civic hatch boi]

if hondata earns the car abou 5hp/tq across the range.. shouldn't it beat the non-hondata car even by a little? seems odd that's it dead even shifting at 6.8.

[civic hatch boi]

who on ephatch has hondata that raced another Ep with equal or better mods?? how did you compare to it??? feedback :)