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02NJHondaep3
09-14-2003, 01:18 PM
What would it take to beat a stock S2000? I dont want to hear about any engine swaps. I'm going towards a K20A3 turbo. Any other methods?
NeoBlue
09-14-2003, 08:32 PM
K20A2 swap + some other N/A mods
eurosteez
09-14-2003, 08:47 PM
massive amount of new internals. valves, valve springs, cams, shaft, head,intake mani, all that and maybe close to an s2k. Turbo would help massively of course
chubbychu
09-14-2003, 09:04 PM
its not far off... 240 hp...can be reached by turbo.

than all you need is weight reduction, better rubber, hondata, and your there. =o)
shimmy_yaz
09-14-2003, 09:20 PM
Originally posted by 02nighthawksivi
What would it take to beat a stock S2000? I dont want to hear about any engine swaps. I'm going towards a K20A3 turbo. Any other methods?


Originally posted by NeoBlue
K20A2 swap + some other N/A mods



Wow and the first response is exactly what he said he DIDN'T wanna hear!:rolleyes:
rs_1101
09-14-2003, 09:20 PM
i dont think the term "weight reduction" even begins to describe what ud have to take off a si to make it weigh anything close to an s2k.
chubbychu
09-14-2003, 09:54 PM
lol...fine than!!!! GUTTAGE!
NeoBlue
09-14-2003, 11:11 PM
Hehe.. irony isn't it? :confused:

our K20A3 is really hard to accompish 240hp from 160hp.. Even after turbo'ed, weight reduction will only create more power at wheel..

And not much aftermarket N/A mod for internal modding for K20A3

So turbo with high psi 'OR' K20A2 swap with N/A mods.. he said turbo.. so I said swap :D
eurosteez
09-15-2003, 04:43 PM
Any one Think turbo+quality cams+Type-R manifold+reprogrammed chip and of course I\H\E could be close to 240? That my future set-up. Give me time, like three years. If that combo doesn't reach 240 Im swappin for sure.
Suk02Si
09-15-2003, 05:11 PM
I thought Rev-Hard and Cybernation were getting at least 260 whp with the A3
NeoBlue
09-15-2003, 05:13 PM
cam + turbo can't adds up together. You either go one route (NA) or the other (FI). (that's same with exhuast header & intake... turbo sub all of those) Beside we have to wait for a aftermarket cam for K20A3...
2k2ep
09-16-2003, 04:05 PM
First, turbo will make more than enough hp.
Second, nitrous 75 direct port.
Third, add at minimum a set of motor mount bushings, good clutch, and tires. That's just my 2 cents good luck.
02NJHondaep3
10-01-2003, 03:23 PM
I have my goal then. thanks. My first idea is to buy JE Pistons to re-enforce the block. You can put aggressive cams on with a turbo.
Dunrick
10-01-2003, 03:59 PM
Originally posted by 02nighthawksivi
What would it take to beat a stock S2000? I dont want to hear about any engine swaps. I'm going towards a K20A3 turbo. Any other methods?

in 1/4? or the track?
Vertigo
10-01-2003, 07:11 PM
I recently saw a mag. article where a S2000 only dynoed just over 200 hp to the wheels. Just put on the normal bolt-on's and a 75 shot of juice.
Tenacious G
10-01-2003, 07:22 PM
Originally posted by Vertigo
I recently saw a mag. article where a S2000 only dynoed just over 200 hp to the wheels. Just put on the normal bolt-on's and a 75 shot of juice.

that alone wouldn't be enough. the S2K would have superior traction off the line w/ RWD and the 9K redline will own in third gear, nitrous or not.
DavidT
10-01-2003, 09:49 PM
A stock S2000 only runs low-mid 14s. That's not hard to beat guys c'mon. Depending on the driver, and the low torque of the S2000 motor, I mostly see them run mid-high 14s at the track. Only a select few modded ones will run low 13s all motor. My old ass 91 Prelude ran 14.6 with only i/h/e and a 65 shot of n2o. If done right it won't take much to break into the mid-low 14s with the EPs.
JDMCIVIC9
10-03-2003, 03:11 AM
I have cai, headers, exhaust, nology wire conversion, iridium plugs, grounding wires and 75 shot nitrous and smoke the s2k by like 6 cars. s2k's dont have nuttin on me! i even raced a supercharged s2k and only lost by 2 cars. I'm even goin 100 shot 2mrw!
ADAMnQuickCIVIC
10-03-2003, 03:22 AM
Originally posted by rs_1101
i dont think the term "weight reduction" even begins to describe what ud have to take off a si to make it weigh anything close to an s2k.

uhhhh, what are you talking about?
the S2000 weighs significantly *MORE* than the Si.
ADAMnQuickCIVIC
10-03-2003, 03:24 AM
http://www.hondacarprices.com/Honda/S2000/2_door_Conv/2003/specs.html
rs_1101
10-03-2003, 03:27 AM
Originally posted by ADAMnQuickCIVIC
uhhhh, what are you talking about?
the S2000 weighs significantly *MORE* than the Si.

oops. i coulda sworn those things were lighter.. they weigh 2809.. thats only a couple more lbs..
02NJHondaep3
10-03-2003, 04:02 AM
looks are deceiving. Also an Si is a hard top opposed to a convertible.
ADAMnQuickCIVIC
10-03-2003, 05:26 AM
Originally posted by rs_1101
oops. i coulda sworn those things were lighter.. they weigh 2809.. thats only a couple more lbs..

S2000 is 53 pounds heavier, based on Honda's calculations.
My ep weighed 2650 w/o driver, not 2744 like Honda says.
The scale at E-town is "supposed" to be dead on.
Vertigo
10-03-2003, 05:12 PM
Originally posted by ADAMnQuickCIVIC
S2000 is 53 pounds heavier, based on Honda's calculations.
My ep weighed 2650 w/o driver, not 2744 like Honda says.
The scale at E-town is "supposed" to be dead on.

Hey Adam,
Did you weigh it at a truck stop on some cat-scales? Also, how much gas did you have in the car?
ADAMnQuickCIVIC
10-04-2003, 04:37 AM
Originally posted by Vertigo
Hey Adam,
Did you weigh it at a truck stop on some cat-scales? Also, how much gas did you have in the car?

Weighed it on the scale at Englishtown Raceway Park.
I always go to the track on a 1/4 tank w/ spare & jack removed.