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Zero Three Si
09-24-2003, 01:40 PM
Our car comes with Michi's 195/60's


Obviously we all know they handle like shit...

What size do you think works best with our car?

02CivicSI-VTEC
09-24-2003, 03:58 PM
yeah that is what i want to know... im goin to keep my stock rims and replace the tires.. i was planning to go with nittos or khomos 195/55-16 or 205/55- 16

Stoop
09-24-2003, 04:18 PM
I just got a set of the 16" Honda Factory Performance wheels :p for my 02 Si and I'm wrapping them in 205/50/16 Bridgestone Potenza S-03s.

I have the S-03s on my 00 Si and I love them. When driving in the rain it is just like it's dry outside. There is just AWESOME traction. So I had to get a set for my EP also. They're a little spendy ($128/tire) and they don't have the best tread life (I hear you have to replace them after about 12-15K), but it is worth it to have the extra performance and quality when driving in the rain or for better handling altogether.

I highly recommend them to anyone looking to get new tires for their car.;)

EricP3
09-24-2003, 04:29 PM
Originally posted by 02CivicSI-VTEC
yeah that is what i want to know... im goin to keep my stock rims and replace the tires.. i was planning to go with nittos or khomos 195/55-16 or 205/55- 16

u mean 195/55-15 or 205/55-15. our stock wheels are 15 inch. so i would recomend staying at the 60 series tire. this will keep the tire diameter the same.

bobdobbs
09-24-2003, 04:43 PM
205/55-15 work really well. The total height is only about 1/2" less than stock, or about 1.5%. Not enough to notice either visually or while driving.

02CivicSI-VTEC
09-24-2003, 04:58 PM
i kinda like 195/55 because it make my car look alittle lower, but my gap is widen. when i slap my stock rim on my friend LS that shit raise his car pretty high and his car was slammed

George Knighton
09-24-2003, 05:46 PM
If you decide to go with 16" wheels, I can heartily recommend the Falken Azenis in 215-45-16. You will be surprised how close these come to R-compound tyres.

In consequence of this, of course, they're not much use in winter weather.

civic hatch boi
09-24-2003, 07:32 PM
Originally posted by bobdobbs
205/55-15 work really well. The total height is only about 1/2" less than stock, or about 1.5%. Not enough to notice either visually or while driving.

its actually 3/10" less than stock.very little difference.

bobdobbs
09-24-2003, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by civic hatch boi


its actually 3/10" less than stock.very little difference.

My bad, you're right. It's about a third of an inch, not a half. Insignificant.

Puffs
09-24-2003, 08:13 PM
Toyo T1S.

My buddy has used a lot of tires, they are the best in his eyes. I trust his opinion as he has done a ton of racing and has a lot of track time.

They hold up on the track, and the street.

His Azenis(Falken) and bridgestones fell apart.
Kuhmo and everything is is pretty much crap in his eyes.

02CivicSI-VTEC
09-24-2003, 08:14 PM
so is it good for me to go with stock rims with 195-55??

02CivicSI-VTEC
09-24-2003, 08:17 PM
so what kinds of tires should i get????? i need some pretty good performance tires that grip and for a good deal .. im looking about $55-75 per tires....

Surprise
09-24-2003, 08:26 PM
Originally posted by StoopSi
I just got a set of the 16" Honda Factory Performance wheels

How did you get your hands on them, hopefully you didn't sell your first child.;)

bobdobbs
09-24-2003, 08:33 PM
Originally posted by 02CivicSI-VTEC
so what kinds of tires should i get?????


195/55-15 is too small, 3% smaller than stock. Go with either 195/60 or 205/55.

As for specific tire recommendation, you should rank the following in order of importance:

-- Dry grip
-- Wet grip
-- Snow grip
-- Long life
-- Low noise
-- Ride comfort
-- Price

There is no one "BEST" tire. All tires have trade-offs and it's up to you to decide what's important. What's your ranking?

George Knighton
09-24-2003, 08:42 PM
Originally posted by Puffs
His Azenis(Falken)...fell apart.

Could you possibly take a second to elaborate on that? That's the first I've heard of anything like that.

When we first started using Azenis as a hybrid compound (and rain tyre), we were surprised how they could be driven full tread depth at all kinds of temperatures on the track without chunking.

I'd appreciate knowing exactly what you mean.

Stoop
09-25-2003, 06:33 AM
Originally posted by Surprise

How did you get your hands on them, hopefully you didn't sell your first child.;)

Yeah, :'(I was sad to see Karl go, but man I love the new wheels.....:D j/k.

Naw, I'm a parts manager at a Honda dealer so I ordered up a Factory Performance kit and robbed the wheels from it. Now I'm stuck with the other crap from the kit, but it will all sell in time.;)
Unfortunately, we can't order "just the wheels." Honda wants to keep them in a package deal with all the other stuff so the only way I could get them was to order the kit.

SoCaLep3
09-27-2003, 02:56 AM
check out the Kuhmo esta supra 712's, frmo what ive heard they perform very well, and are priced in your range

graham
09-28-2003, 07:35 AM
I'll put a vote in for Yoko AVS ES100's in the 205/55/15 size combined with a lightweight 15" rim.

There is no right answer to what is the "best" tire ... it all depends on what you want to do with your car. Like bobdobbs says, you have to evaluate what you need in a tire. As far as the ES100's go:

Postives
- great for street use - plenty grippy for the onramps & twisties
- the quietest performance tire I've driven on (compared to A520, SP8000s, Kumho Exsta Supras) ... even as the tread gets down there, they are still quiet
- great wet handling
- decent wear (they should last 1 - 1.5 summer seasons)
- pretty stiff sidewalls - even at 30 psi on the track, they never roll out
- They won't be destroyed by sessions at the track
- they look great

Negatives
- not fantastic for track use. I've been out twice and notice they get a bit soft after 3 hard laps ... this is not to say they are crap on the track ... just not the best. They have NEVER chunked out on me tho.
- don't even think about driving with these in the snow ... summer tire only!

So this is a great tire if you like to drive your car hard, but not be pestered with the constant humming of performance tires. They won't chunk out on you even if you track your car - you many not get the fastest track time ... but if that's your thing get a pair of slicks.

Cheers,
Graham

Puffs
09-29-2003, 09:44 PM
His belts started showing after limited track use.

I mean the tires complete broke up. He actually placed a complaint with Faulken trying to get a replacement with pictures and everything.

He gives them a big thumbs down. After all his use, he says Toyo Proxes T1S is the best track tire he has ever used overall.

chubbychu
09-29-2003, 10:12 PM
hmm...im on stock tires...but i wanna try the so-3. Pax made them seem super cool. but they are a little spendy

for all you tire whizzes out there...can you tell me what tire would be the best in this order of importance?

dry traction
life
Wet traction
Price
stiffsidewalls
Price
sound
Snowtraction

thanks!

are these any good? Kumho Ecsta HP4 716 (Grand Touring All-Season)

graham
10-01-2003, 02:30 PM
well ... from what I hear the S-03s are really really nice ... they were my 1st choice, but I got a good deal on the EVS100s.

Have fun and let us know what you think of them.

Stoop
10-01-2003, 09:06 PM
I have the S-03s. There ARE really nice, but the tread life is short (12,000-15,000 miles). However, they do stick like everything to the road in dry AND wet conditions. It's the only tire I'll ever buy from now on. Spendy, but worth it IMO.

kadafi
10-02-2003, 11:55 AM
kumho mx 215/45/17 on oz superleggera.

i had kumho 712 before.....mx is WAY better

white02EGG
10-03-2003, 09:33 AM
I've heard great things about the Yoko ES100s......