What is this?

[DarkHatch]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2448075556&category=33741

What is this? this can't be for real. What do you guys think about it?

[JapanExpress]

If it looks to good to be true, it probably is. Don't waste your money.

[DarkHatch]

Hehe that was my opinion, just needed a second one. Thanx bro;)

[Civicvtec1ps]

Waste of money.

[Brettnyt]

A CENTER FOR ANTS!?!?

[kylenls]

well your looking at shit there...total shit.

[the JigGa mAn]

hahaha...buy it and see if it works...lol..j/k

[oogy-boogy]

What is it....Surfcontrol at work sucks :(

[sniperSI]

FOR A LIMITED TIME ONLY GET A FREE IAT CHIP FOR A ADDITIONAL 10-15HP FOR A TOTAL OF UP TO 35HP IN THIS COMBO.
This product is by far the coolest thing to ever happen to the import world. Finally something we can all afford to place under the hood. This device is used either with a cold air intake(recommended) or with your stock setup. The blower uses a safe 12 volt source to power up and with up to 240 cfm(cubic feet of air a minute)extra moving through your intake you cant go wrong. Why spend up to a $3000.00 on a turbo or supercharger which can overheat your engine or worse yet blow it up, when you can add this simple device in less then an hour and still keep the warrantee on your vehicle. After all greddy and a garrett turbos only put out a average of 100cfm more and it take about 15 seconds to get to top spool, with the turbo blower, top spool is now with a flick of a switch. Installation is a breeze. all you need is a 4in to 3in reducer which you can get at any home improvement store and just an hour of your time(wire and toggle switch included free of charge). The inlet and outlet size of the blower is 4in and the length is 4in. which most of that is in your intake filter.FILTER NOT INCLUDED. I put one on my friends civic and cut 1/2 second off of his 1/4 mile time and I personally gained 29 hp on the dyno at my friends hotrod shop. seller not responsible for vehicle after installation, I know my product I don

[fsugatorbait]

Its one of those rip off ebay scams...

its a 12v fan that you put inside your intake tube, that gains up to 35 hp! :eek:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid93/p2bf611cf4744a0decb6f52940925e373/fa4b527f.jpg

[oogy-boogy]

Originally posted by sniperSI
FOR A LIMITED TIME ONLY GET A FREE IAT CHIP FOR A ADDITIONAL 10-15HP FOR A TOTAL OF UP .........

Thanks for the info Sniper.....


Like Phil the Gator said, it looks like another "Rip you off E-bay Poo-poo" auction. You could probably rip open any old Jurassic PC and make one of those for pennies. I'd be curious to see if it actually made an improvement or if it actually cut down on intake velocity.

[2k2SiAutoXer]

yeah, i would also be interested to see if it made any difference. Somebody always goes into the physics of how it should not work and all but I would like to see some real world results.

--Tom

[BlasTech]

An electric fan cant move enough air (cfm) to keep up with the amount of air that our engine takes in (unless your idling).

Once you get on the gas, our engine starts taking in more air than the fan is moving, and the fan, at that point is blocking maximum airflow.

Any electric fan that could move more cfm than our engine takes in once you get going would have to be so powerful, you'd need extra batteries and alternators to keep them alive.

[esmith13]

OK people... Here's the math for this crap once and for all

Click Here to see the equasions (http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/5755/math.html)

Anyhoo, as you'll see in that link, the equasion for CFM required by the engine is:

CFM= ( CID * RMP ) / 2820

CID (cubic inches of displacement) for our cars is: 1998

SO -

( 1998 * RPM ) / 2820

At Redline (6800RPM), we need 4817.87 Cubic Feet per Minute of air flow.

At idle (800RPM), we need 566.8 Cubic Feet per Minute of air flow.

Basically, with a maximum limit of 240 CFM from this fan, your more likely than not constricting the air flow of the car... Even at Idle.

At WOT - this thing could be torn apart and sucked into your engine.

Eric

[MyBlkSI]

1998 cubic inches wtf you do realize that that would be a 32 litre engine! i think you mistook cubic inches for centimeters

first off i do not think that an electric SC can be felt at all unless it one made by http://www.turbodyne.com

but you do realize that your math is a little off because you forgot to change cubic centimeters CC into cubic inches of displacement. and hey you should never knock anything before you try it.....

the theoretical cfm for our cars at redline is about 239 cfm i think

[jandetuning]

That unit is http://www.hondaswap.com/forums/html/emoticons/horseshit.gif

There are only a few real electric superchargers: Thomas Knight (http://www.boosthead.com/home.php)
Turbodyne (http://www.turbodyne.com/)

No point in even comparing them to the eBay P.O.S.

[DarkHatch]

Dude! Your avatar kicks ass!

[esmith13]

Originally posted by MyBlkSI
1998 cubic inches wtf you do realize that that would be a 32 litre engine! i think you mistook cubic inches for centimeters

first off i do not think that an electric SC can be felt at all unless it one made by http://www.turbodyne.com

but you do realize that your math is a little off because you forgot to change cubic centimeters CC into cubic inches of displacement. and hey you should never knock anything before you try it.....

the theoretical cfm for our cars at redline is about 239 cfm i think

I feel dumber for having typed it... I am such an ass.... Sorry about that! :confused:

LESSON LEARNED: Drink the coffee! - even if they say it IS bad for you!! :angel:

Eric

[BlasTech]

I attempted to do the math on this too sometime ago:

The motor moves 1998cc of air/fuel up to (around) 6800 times per minute

Ideally that air/fuel ratio averages 13:1 (or close to that) which means 1855cc of air 6800 times per minute.

1855cc = 0.06551 cubic feet

and so

0.06551cf x 6800rpm = 445.5cfm

0.06551cf x 6000rpm = 393cfm

0.06551cf x 5000rpm = 327.5cfm

0.06551cf x 4000rpm = 262cfm

0.06551cf x 3000rpm = 196cfm

0.06551cf x 2000rpm = 131cfm

0.06551cf x 1000rpm = 65.5cfm

I know my numbers are not 100% perfect, but it should be close.

While a very powerful fan might provide some small amount of pressure at low rpms, if the fan does not provide more than peak, it will be impeding with the airflow.