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USMCSI PT.2
01-06-2004, 07:25 PM
Why don't any companies make and adjustable tie rod end bumpsteer kit for are cars yet? I have seen it made for other cars.

Suk02Si
01-06-2004, 10:27 PM
I think a couple companies make some, they're just not mass producing them.

A while back some pics were posted of a Mugen race car with some adapters that allowed the tie rod end to be bolted on upside down.

r3p00c
01-07-2004, 06:28 AM
i think i remember seeing a video on hondas website about the si having advancements in bumpsteer over any other previous civic? in my opinion, its pretty good out of the factory... are you going over that many bumps that fast that you need even more protection against bump steer?

02SilverSiHB
01-07-2004, 07:10 AM
Originally posted by r3p00c
in my opinion, its pretty good out of the factory...
yeah, well that's stock...99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999 999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of us aren't...now we have the V in the tie rod and get a little bit of bumpsteer

r3p00c
01-07-2004, 08:27 AM
Originally posted by 02SilverSiHB
yeah, well that's stock...99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999 999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of us aren't...now we have the V in the tie rod and get a little bit of bumpsteer

do aftermarket springs affect bumpsteer? maybe i just haven't noticed a change with mine, since i have a pro-kit drop. i understand that a good bit of people on the site at least have different springs installed, but i wouldn't assume practically everyone on the site does. he didn't say that he is having bumpsteer problems due to a part change, thats why i mentioned the factory spec bumpsteer correction.

Burgh
01-07-2004, 08:33 AM
When the car is lowered the wheels toe in and the tierod is too long to fix this sometimes (depending on how low you drop it).

USMCSI PT.2
01-07-2004, 10:34 AM
I am using Tein Flex's all the way around, and yes when you change the ride height of the vehicle if you look at the steering rack and at the end of the tie rod where it meets the strut and you can see the angle between the rack and the rod. On the stock civic si there is hardly any angle except under compression. The abgle is not good for performance of the steering, kind of like that whole angle of deflection thing.

Si Death
01-07-2004, 12:36 PM
i heard mugen suspension was made so it keeps the stock bump steer thingo like its stock

02SilverSiHB
01-07-2004, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by Si Death
i heard mugen suspension was made so it keeps the stock bump steer thingo like its stock
who told you that? I would like to know if this is true or not...I wouldn't mind getting it

chunky
01-07-2004, 03:45 PM
Originally posted by Burgh
When the car is lowered the wheels toe in and the tierod is too long to fix this sometimes (depending on how low you drop it).

typically you can adjust in zero toe with zero camber. but if you want negative camber, you might not be able to get negative camber via camber plate adjustment w/o having toe in.

mainly, it's the camber adjustment that messes with the toe. If you adjust camber via camber blots, then you won't see that problem. but most coilover setups use camber plates to adjust camber, which sucks if you want toe out as well.


also, the JIC coilovers have a re positioned tie rod arm on the strut body to compensate for this issue.

Si Death
01-07-2004, 03:59 PM
who told you that? I would like to know if this is true or not...I wouldn't mind getting it

actually i read it here:D , but it was a while ago

02SilverSiHB
01-07-2004, 04:04 PM
Originally posted by Si Death
actually i read it here:D , but it was a while ago
might be true, I just read it over at k-series...I'll have to see if I can get more info on that.

BlasTech
01-07-2004, 04:05 PM
Yes, my JIC arms are a good 1.5" lower than the stock struts. There is still some angle, but not extreme.

I will have pics available eventually when everything is complete and clean.