SFP 300whp Dyno Vid!!!

[Most-Wanted]

Well, SFP did it again. I am only going to do a small post tonight because it's late, but I wanted to let everyone know how my tuning session at SFP went tonight. I am going to be in Miami most of the day tomorrow, but will post everything tomorrow night. Here is a basic run down for you to drool over. It made 300whp(297.1) at 9.8psi. Yes, that's 300hp and 245 ft. lbs of torque. It ran perfectly smooth. Here is a pic and vid for your viewing pleasure. The dyno sheets, pics, and other video's will be posted tomorrow. I also wanted to take a quick minute to say a special Thank You to Frank, Scott and the crew at SFP. They have been wonderful to work with on this project.

http://www.vtecturbo2000.com/ep3/movies/MOV05722.MPG
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid98/p3365b318435b3cf77ec9eed5354aca9f/fa03b4ec.jpg

[TheMutt]

Something tells me the cat wont last. But I want to be the first here to say...

DAAAYYYUM!





:rolleyes:
Now for the skepticism to kick everyone in the balls. I see drama in the future of this thread. The very near future. It'll prolly start with those tq numbers. Those are so crazy high.

[Si4U2NV]

two things... 1) is that on stock internals? just the turbo kit added or what? and 2) if youre in florida i want to see u soon...

dyin to see the car and meet a fellow enthusiast...

-Mike

[klubhedsi]

Its a beauty, are u taking it to the track? I would be expecting high 12s!

[DyNastySi]

So is your car fast now? j/k. Looks really impressive. So your gonna show us a longer vid later right?

[TheMutt]

I doubt we'll see high 12's. With those numbers, I'm sure he'll spin a bit unless he's got some bad ass tires or is a crazy good driver, lets just assume its average. In addition to that, it's not a lot more than other kits pushing a lil less boost and are only hitting mid to high 13s.

This kit is totally bad ass and I want to see it at the track too, though. Cant wait for these next few weeks.

[Pikachu]

Themutt you also have to remember that the SFP turbo car has already done a mid 13 so you shouldn't expect less just a faster time to go with the hp

[SFPracing]

Congratulations Most-Wanted. Your car is insane. I wanna ride today so I can decide if I'm getting one LOL. Just one correction... the car made 297.1wHP and 245lb/ft or torque. Super impressive since it's still pushing through a catalytic too. I'm sure there is 3+ more wheel hp in that cat. Before anyone gets alls all skeptical, lemme say this. I was there. I saw it first hand. I was the one videoing the runs. This car rocks. It's a bone stock SI with our stage2 turbo kit, a Clutchmasters stage3 clutch kit, and a 3" turbo exaust, and a boost controller. That is all. These cars have really been growing on me but I have to say I'm a true beleiver in K20 power now. Somebody buy my B20vtec turbo hatch so I can pick one of these puppies up. hehe... Anyways, congrats again on having IMO the baddest stock motor EP3 around.

Some more video's here
http://www.vtecturbo2000.com/ep3/movies/MOV05723.MPG
http://www.vtecturbo2000.com/ep3/movies/MOV05728.MPG

[Btrthnezr3]

That EP is a beast. Too bad I'm 1)too poor 2)too scared to turbo
:(
I have to have this car for at least 7 yrs. Damn law school. But hey, after that...I'll be pimpin something hard core. If I make it through...heh...let's hope I do.

[sniperSI]

That's awesome. Glad to see other companies are able to more horsepower per PSI then others. Looks like SFP is the sleeper turbo company heh.


On a side note, everyone bitchs about traction. This might not sound right but we tighten the shit out of our throttle cables when we get our cars, if we hadd 150 hp, think maybe we should losen them a bit? I would think that would help controling the power.

Anyways, Congrats most wanted!

[Most-Wanted]

Thanks everyone for the replies. As for si4u2nv I will be in Miami today and the car is at SFP. Call them to take a look. I'll be there around noon time. If your schedule allows come to the shop. If not, e-mail me and we'll meet up anytime. Thanks again......

[Most-Wanted]

Here are some video's of my EP3 on the dyno at SFP. It produced 297.1whp and 245 ft.lbs of torque at 9.8 psi with 93 octane, 19" wheels, and catalytic converter. Rev limit has been raised to 7500 and runs perfect with no CEL. There is even a pic of the cat for the non-believers. I am trying to keep the car fairly quiet so its staying put for now.

Videos
http://www.vtecturbo2000.com/ep3/movies/MOV05722.MPG

http://www.vtecturbo2000.com/ep3/movies/MOV05723.MPG

http://www.vtecturbo2000.com/ep3/movies/MOV05724.MPG

http://www.vtecturbo2000.com/ep3/movies/MOV05727.MPG

http://www.vtecturbo2000.com/ep3/movies/MOV05728.MPG

Pics


http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid98/p6d039c2c75f149201525e2a4f1ffa9ec/fa019eec.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid98/pc0c94740c443d055ecb39861f96daee7/fa019eee.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid98/p3365b318435b3cf77ec9eed5354aca9f/fa03b4ec.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid98/p547e2b155a47da24d9c58ce2ad4fa78d/fa019bce.jpg
http://www.vtecturbo2000.com/ep3/pics/dynosheets/10psi297.1.jpg
http://www.vtecturbo2000.com/ep3/pics/dynosheets/10psi297.1lg.jpg

[TheMutt]

Raised the rev limit to 8200?!?!

Are you sure, or are you just going by the tach? The factory tach is inaccurate once you get that high, maybe you're mistaken? Iono, it just seems kinda overkill to raise the revlimit that high.

[myeverlovinsir]

I have to chuckle a little bit. I was just talking about your setup today. You have one sweet ride. 300whp on the stock internals is just amazing. Beef it up and add more boost is the next step. I think your misting is definitely helping to keep things cool. Keep up the great work. Your still on the short list.:D

[SFPracing]

Most-Wanted won't be reving it that high till we do internals and valve train. It's just there so another reflash isn't needed. 7500rpm is about where we're cutting the revs off.

I'm not sure and I'm not being a wiseass, but isn't he the only guy on that short list you speak of? I mean the list that says stock EP3 engine 300whp? :D

[myeverlovinsir]

I'm not sure and I'm not being a wiseass, but isn't he the only guy on that short list you speak of? I mean the list that says stock EP3 engine 300whp?

No, I am considering quite a few. I want what looks good but also works well with my unique setup. I like what you have done with the stock setup, but I have a couple of more challenging tuning issues. I will be deciding soon and am just waiting on the programmable ECU first. Your kit is definitely a notch above others.;)

[SFPracing]

Sorry I thought you meant his setup was on a short list of people or companies that have achieved that level of power on stock internals. I was kinda asking if anyone else has legitimately shown they have achieved this level on stock motor.

[myeverlovinsir]

Answer: Yes, you stand alone for building the most power on the stock EP internals.

Question: What would you say about what I have and how would you make this work well?

[Sleeper Style]

okay..sounds good...here is my question....how long will this run on stock interenals.....i mean they have to be under tremendous stress. Has anyhting been tested to approx. life and stress of the internals?

[myeverlovinsir]

I think that with 9.8psi you would see similar results on the car with a number of turbo setups. The meth mist helps somewhat as well here. I have not seen anyone else post that high a PSI, so this is the real reason behind the numbers. They are definitely pushing the envelope.

[Peking]

Originally posted by Sleeper Style
okay..sounds good...here is my question....how long will this run on stock interenals.....i mean they have to be under tremendous stress. Has anyhting been tested to approx. life and stress of the internals?

For a question like that, there is no simple answer. Mybe today, mybe tomorrow, mybe never. Who really knows, if it gives, it gives :D

[SFPracing]

You are right. If it goes we will build it. Based on what we know about turbocharging, tuning, and aquamist, we think it will last for a long time. Remember it's more detonation that kills rods and pistons than HP. Sure enough HP will kill them but we will see.

I guess SFP and Most-Wanted are going where No Man has Gone Before... (Cue the Star Trek soundtrack ;) LOL) Beam me up Scotty... never mind.

[02SilverSiHB]

Originally posted by TheMutt
Raised the rev limit to 8200?!?!

Are you sure, or are you just going by the tach? The factory tach is inaccurate once you get that high, maybe you're mistaken? Iono, it just seems kinda overkill to raise the revlimit that high.
not sure where the 8200 came from either...but the dyno shows about 7500rpms...which should be accurate

[02SilverSiHB]

oh, yes, that car does sound mean!

[LordKoo]

SFPracing, are you saying this close to 300whp beast is running aquamist? If that is true, 300hp is easy...

[TheMutt]

Don't try and dull this down so much LordKoo...
I mean come on this is the first k20a3 I've heard of with 300hp.

[PAPITUYO326]

wtf this kit pwns all others...wow...i know what i am saving up for!

[Most-Wanted]

My bad. The Hondata re-flash is for 8200 but we are cutting it off at 7500. I am building another block and head and didn't want to send the ECU out again. This way it is already to go when I get to that point. I am in no rush at this time and just want to enjoy it for a while.

[02SilverSiHB]

by the way mostwanted...what kind of bov is that?

[Most-Wanted]

Greddy Type-S..............

[02SilverSiHB]

Originally posted by Most-Wanted
Greddy Type-S..............
cool, sounds crazy...not what I expected :D

[estebones]

wow the # and sounds ae impressive.

[yellerep3]

could an ep push 300 hp with turbo and be a daily driver.

[LordKoo]

Don't try and dull this down so much LordKoo...

TheMutt, you are being too pessimistic! I have seen SR20DE pushing 350whp stock internal! So, K20A3 pushing 300whp is REASONABLE! What you can't do, that does not mean others cannot.

[Pikachu]

but you have to look at it this way that is an sr20 not a k20 the sr comes turbo the k20 does not you have to look at what has been done so far SFP has taken this car the farthest. No one else right now can compete all other can only get up to what 250 then they start ripping apart the motor so SFP obviously has the secret that is why they are the best no one else can find the tuning secret but them so now they are the ones to go with

[Sleeper Style]

what i meant in the previous post is pretty much what yellerep3 is asking. I mean congrats on such HUGE gains its obvious you guys know what you're doing. aprrox. 300HP on a stock set up is unbelieveible. I really just wanted to know know if the engine would hold up on being a daily driver. i want to turbo but if i am going to spend the money...i am going to go all out on the best one i can find. the problem being is that it has to be a daily driver at the same time.

[TheMutt]

Well, that guy is the first with it I would assume. I don't think it's his daily driver though. I could be wrong though. So I guess we still won't know if it's safe for a daily, but I would be willing to buy the kit and take the chance. 300hp. Dayum.

[SFPracing]

We feel that this power level the way we have the car tuned and with the aquamist is going to be reliable for a good while. Of course since this hasn't been done before there is some level of experimentation. And of course with any car that's modified things can happen. If people want this setup for daily driver and want added piece of mind, I'd recommend doing a Greddy Profec B Spec II boost controller, run about 7psi daily then turn the wick up to 9.5psi or so when they want to play.

[Dunrick]

keep in mind, not only is it making a hell of a lot of power, but it delivers it for A LOT more rpms than the others. 300whp, this car should run 12's with those rpms. nice

Just let us know when you blow teh hell out of it in a year.

[Pikachu]

well we will see if it will last for a daily drive my car goes down to SFP in about a week and i am going to use it as a daily driver. But as SFP said it before until a little while longer it is just an experiment but as i said before it will be my daily driver and i am going to put it through helli mean i have had my car since feb/2003 and i have 24000 miles on it so soon we will know

[Most-Wanted]

To be honest, the silver hatch is not daily driver. I had a boosted R as a daily driver and promised myself that I wouldn't do that again. However, there is absolutely no reason you couldn't drive this car everyday. I am actually driving mine just about everyday now because I like it so much. I have had zero problems at 5-6 psi. I only don't drive it everyday because I want to keep it nice and am a pilot and leave my car at the airport for days at a time. I have only been on 9.8 psi for a few days so can't give an honest opinion on how I think it will hold up. Normally a car comes apart due to tuning errors or detonation. This car has neither and I expect it will last for quite sometime. If your concerned, leave the kit at 5-6 psi and be happy with what you have. I made 262.8 and 213 ft lbs of torque on the base set up of 6 psi. Anytime you take a stock car and start doing things that were not suppose to be done you are at risk of a failure. I've seen people blow motors due to water ingestion on a cold air intake. But nobody balks at doing an intake. It all boils down to what you want to experience. Live on the edge, have fun and experience life in the fast lane. Life is too short to be boring............

[k20hatch]

Wow...."Pulls pants up" thats pretty freakin awsome!! Nice ride man...turbo mine!!

[PAPITUYO326]

dude...i am so jealous of your car..honestly tho you are the man for trying this setup...i might do mine in a few years(being realistic) when i feel my car needs a wakeup call

[Most-Wanted]

The real man is Frank at South Florida Performance. I call him the mad scientist. I just let him do his thing. We are getting ready to build an RSX-S block and head and get sick with this hatch. However, I want to enjoy it for a while just the way it is. It's so much fun to drive right now. I am actually starting to drive it more than my stock one. Anyhow, thanks everyone for the compliments. If anyone wants to take a look at it in person and go for a ride just let me know. My friend is doing his this week and between us we should be able to make it happen.

[myeverlovinsir]

I know they post the price on the web site. 4500 give or take. Just wanted to know what you have spent?

[Most-Wanted]

$4,500 give or take.........












LOL:) The only difference from my kit is the Hondata reflash and 440cc injectors. You'll have to get with a distributor for pricing. You never know what kind of deals you can find. I'd estimate it at about 1,000 for both items. Not bad for 40hp and 40 ft lbs of torque if you think about it. Call SFP, they are very competitive on pricing.

[myeverlovinsir]

Thanks. I can get both the hondata flash (programmable ECU) and injectors for less. Keep up the good work. You did mention that you were going to test with the A2. It will be more benificial and again I wonder what you would get with my setup? I think the boost factor wains with the complete A2 setup. Just my .02 cents.

[Most-Wanted]

You are right about the A2. The only reason I'm using that is because I have one in my garage. This will keep the down time on the car to a minimum. I can just keep on driving until the motor is finished. The sleeving and head work take some time to do right and I'm impatient.

[Siman]

holy shit......:eek:

thats a wicked minivan!

[SFPracing]

Thanks. I can get both the hondata flash (programmable ECU) and injectors for less.

Just remember this reflash is something we have spec'ed for us that can only be had in this config. through us.

[pimpn24]

this hatch is beyond nasty i have riden and driven it ;-) and will honestly say say that on 5 pounds that thing is nutz and now on 9 .. domestics are no longer safe ... now i just cant wait to see pikas car come out that should be nutz some time in the near futur i will be goin to sfp also because it looks liek they are the ONLY ONES IN SOUTH FLORIDA THAT KNWO WHAT THEY ARE DOING

[ep_jee]

thats baddass man... hows the car handling all the power??

[PAPITUYO326]

hey u were at Hot Imports last year right??? i was lookin through my pics and saw ur car....also saw the b20 civic with 400+ hp....both were done at SFP right?

[SFPracing]

I did my own white hatch. Some time after I started working at SFP. SFP did Most Wanted's silver hatch.

[esmith13]

All'ight guys, I have a question...

First off - congrats on standin alone at the 300WHP mark stock engine!!

Secondly - I'm pushin 266WHP with the CN kit now and i wanna increase my rev limit to gain more on the current setup. I know it will work, since the dyno shows peak HP for me is right at revlimit. How did you get your increase? Was it Hondata or otherwise? If it WAS hondata - is it a SFP designed tune or a generic one and then you simply tuned fuel settings based on hondata's baseline??

Any info you can slide my way would be greatly apprecieated and once again - congrats on a HOTT ride with MAD power!!!

Eric

[Ep3_kid]

im glad i live in south florida !! :D :D

[Most-Wanted]

esmith13-I'm using the Hondata reflash that is SFP design tuned, but I'm sure you can give Hondata your parameters and have the same positive results. I'm not going crazy on the rpms yet until I have my other block/head built and ready. I'm limiting myself to 7500:( for now.