How much for '04 Si???

[djaaronk]

Hey guys...I know there were a couple of you that said you've already picked up an '04. I tried to search but had no luck. I am looking to buy one very soon and I was wondering what kind of deals you've been getting on them. Thanks...can't wait to be an official Si owner!!!

[BlackNRedSi]

get a 02 or 03Si....so you have the black steering wheel like the rest of us! :)

[quincy04si]

I bought an 04 about two weeks ago. Read my post:

CLICK HERE (http://www.ephatch.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27372)

[quincy04si]

Originally posted by BlackNRedSi
get a 02 or 03Si....so you have the black steering wheel like the rest of us! :)

But you will have:

5 lugs instead of 4
16" rims instead of 15"
side skirts
and shiny levers on your air vents

;)

[BlackNRedSi]

Originally posted by quincy04si
But you will have:

5 lugs instead of 4
16" rims instead of 15"
side skirts
and shiny levers on your air vents

;)

very true, ok...get the 04, and go buy a 03 wheel! :)

[SiR_d1]

Originally posted by BlackNRedSi
get a 02 or 03Si....so you have the black steering wheel like the rest of us! :)

what color is it on the new ones?

[BlackNRedSi]

I coulda SWORN i saw the 04 wheel is grey, not black...

[Z26]

I couldnt tell of a color change in the wheel, it looks black to me.

[SiGuy]

The 04's are 19560, but I've got two 03's that i can sell you for 16500. Only problem is that you'll have to drive to GA to pick em up.

[SiGuy]

I checked and the 04 wheel is the same as the 03. Black

[quincy04si]

My 04 wheel looks black to me but I don't have an 03 to compare it to.

[k20ephatch]

MSRP for the 04 Si is $19,070...but i had a discount and it dropped to $18,000 for me :D

[Finger]

yeah they are grey, i saw one this week and it was weird looking with the red stitching.

[djaaronk]

Thanks! I think the steering wheel is still black...I saw one at the car show last week. I am definately set on getting an '04 because I don't do mods (I love the new wheels/headlights)...I just drive it :). I thought I saw someone that got an '04 for $14,500...I just don't remember where I saw it. I know that MSRP is $19,320 but there is no way I'd ever pay more than $16something for one. I love 'em and I know you guys do too...but fact is they just don't sell well...so they better discount!!!

[quincy04si]

Originally posted by djaaronk
Thanks! I think the steering wheel is still black...I saw one at the car show last week. I am definately set on getting an '04 because I don't do mods (I love the new wheels/headlights)...I just drive it :). I thought I saw someone that got an '04 for $14,500...I just don't remember where I saw it. I know that MSRP is $19,320 but there is no way I'd ever pay more than $16something for one. I love 'em and I know you guys do too...but fact is they just don't sell well...so they better discount!!!

I'm almost postive that you won't find an 04 for under 17-18K unless you have something to trade in as well.

[djaaronk]

I am planning to sell my '01 EX coupe...not trade...I know that I can get more for it by selling it. I can't remember where I saw it but I know some dude on one of these boards said he got one for 14.5k...and I think a few others for 16ksomething.

[blueiedgod]

To me, the higher price on the 2004 just for the few cosmetic changes is not justifiable.
I got a 2002 in January 0f 2003 for $14.5K, some have posted buying a left over 2002 in February of 2003 for High $13K's. So, if you are persistent, you may find a 2003 now that is heavily discounted. Unfortunately don't expect to save too much off the invoice, Honda has cut dealer insentives to a minimum, and there is no more 1.9% around.

By the way, I have checked the mounting locations for the new headlights and they are identical to the 2002. Unfortunately, the 2004 still does not have adjustable intermittent wipers. Something I was hoping for, the RSX switch conversion is possible, but I don't get as big a discount buying Acura parts as I do buying Honda parts. Can someone, who has a 2004, confirm that the 2004 Si DOES NOT have Variable intermittent wipers. I could have swore the brochure mentioned them, but when I peeked inside the 2004 Si at the dealer's lot, the wiper stalk did not have the adjustment wheel.
Thank you

[Graywolf]

Originally posted by blueiedgod

By the way, I have checked the mounting locations for the new headlights and they are identical to the 2002.

Mounting point yes, but do the body panels match? I'f so, JAWESOME!

[djaaronk]

Originally posted by blueiedgod
To me, the higher price on the 2004 just for the few cosmetic changes is not justifiable.
I got a 2002 in January 0f 2003 for $14.5K, some have posted buying a left over 2002 in February of 2003 for High $13K's. So, if you are persistent, you may find a 2003 now that is heavily discounted. Unfortunately don't expect to save too much off the invoice, Honda has cut dealer insentives to a minimum, and there is no more 1.9% around.Thank you


The MSRP of the '04 is $19,320 w/side airbags...the '03 model's MSRP was $19,250...a difference of only $70.00. That 16" wheels alone I think are worth that! But who on earth pays MSRP for an Si??? I think Edmunds.com or Yahoo autos lists the '04 Invoice price at $17,915 for Si w/side airbags. Even invoice seems way too high. Guess I will just have to wait to see how slow the '04s sell...then try to get a good deal.

Oh yeah...I've read somewhere that Honda has a factory to dealer $500 incentive for every Civic they sell right now...till March '04.

[blueiedgod]

Originally posted by djaaronk
The MSRP of the '04 is $19,320 w/side airbags...the '03 model's MSRP was $19,250...a difference of only $70.00. That 16" wheels alone I think are worth that! But who on earth pays MSRP for an Si??? I think Edmunds.com or Yahoo autos lists the '04 Invoice price at $17,915 for Si w/side airbags. Even invoice seems way too high. Guess I will just have to wait to see how slow the '04s sell...then try to get a good deal.

Oh yeah...I've read somewhere that Honda has a factory to dealer $500 incentive for every Civic they sell right now...till March '04.

Who buys at MSRP these days? I am talking about street price, the real world selling price.

[djaaronk]

I completely agree with you...street price is what to look at. I think dealers are being silly right now...thinking that 1" bigger wheels, new heads and tails makes the car worth MSRP. I can understand...they are just doing thier jobs...but I think most people still think the Si is ugly...making it a slow seller.

[SiGuy]

Ok. The price of a 04 is 19560 including destination, that's 100 $ more than last year. Not to say anyone dosen't know what there talking about but invoice w/0 side airbags is about 17450 with airbags it's about 17650. You might get one for around invoice, on a 03 alittle lower. But high 13's and low 14's is just rediculous. If they do sell 'em for that low, the're gonna make it up in interest. Bottom line NO ONE is gonna lose 3000 dollars on a new honda. Like I said in another post 16500 on a 03 is about as low as anyone will go without any smoke and mirrors.

[pedzola]

I have read some things on this site where people have apparently gotten rediculously unbelievable deals on their cars. I think sometimes the entire truth must not be there, because around here they don't sell for 14-15k.

I went car shopping in october and I found a small dealership with 6 Si's on the lot. 3 black, 1 blue, and 1 silver 03, and a white 02. All of them had like 10 miles on them, brand new, all the plastic still on the panels. I wanted white so I tried to negotiate a deal on the '02.

The absolute lowest they would go on the '02 was $16,000. And this was just a couple of months ago in October. I wasn't in a rush either. I went there and got a couple numbers and went home. They called me a week later begging me to come buy the 02 and that they would give me a special deal on it. They cleaned it up in the showroom and everything. I just told them look if you can't drop it more than that then im not going to buy the car. And they told me flat out, sorry 16k is as low as we can possibly go, we're already losing money, blah blah blah. So I thought about it for a while and went back and bought the '03 the same day for $16,900(also their absolute lowest price). =P

A friend of mine told me that things in general are just more expensive in CT And that in some parts of the country they drop prices more because the local economy and mindset is different. Not sure if that is true. *shrug*

[djaaronk]

Yeah...I seriously doubt if anyone could drive away in an Si for 14-15k. I would actually feel guilty if I got one that low. I am really hoping to get it in the 16.5k range...to me that seems like a fair amt. I am going to be trying to buy within the next month or so. I'll let you know what I manage to get one for.

[blueiedgod]

Originally posted by SiGuy
Ok. The price of a 04 is 19560 including destination, that's 100 $ more than last year. Not to say anyone dosen't know what there talking about but invoice w/0 side airbags is about 17450 with airbags it's about 17650. You might get one for around invoice, on a 03 alittle lower. But high 13's and low 14's is just rediculous. If they do sell 'em for that low, the're gonna make it up in interest. Bottom line NO ONE is gonna lose 3000 dollars on a new honda. Like I said in another post 16500 on a 03 is about as low as anyone will go without any smoke and mirrors.


It is called being an educated consumer. When Honda was giving dealers $3000 in incentives at the end of 2002 and beginning of 2003, Si's were advertized in the papers for $15,000 to $15,500. Anyone could have walked in with the ad from the paper and gotten it for $15,000. Plus if the delaership made their numbers for the month Honda was giving them close to $1500 in incetives on top of the $3000. So, even though I paid $14,500 the dealer still made close to $800 in incentives. And, no, they were not loading the loan, I still got the 1.9% APR. Just because you people were not ready to purchase at the end of 2002, beginning of 2003, does not mean that the deals were there.
Pedzola, when you asked me about my dealer, I told you to go to Fair Hond ain Danbury, they would have hooked you up. But you were abotu a year too late.

Honda pulled the incentives in February/MArch 2003 and pulled 1.9% APR sometime in September 2003. In a few years someone will come along and will claim that Honda never had 1.9% APR or it was impossible to get 1.9%.

Things are not more expensive in CT than they are in NY. But when everyone and their unkle are driving Gargantuan Behemoth's of SUV, the small compacts are over looked. If you remember the winter of 2002/2003 was especially snowey in Northeast/New england, Most people were in the rush to buy a 4x4 or an AWD. My general rule of thumb is you buy an SUV in summer and a sports car in winter. At the same time I bought my Si, an S2000 could have been had for $28-29K, only because there were 2 feet of snow on the ground and no one was interested in buying a convetible.

[SuperRacerTypeR]

some dude said 04 civic si on sale for $14,500 its true, because i saw the ad from Buena Park Honda on the LA-times News paper for $14,500...:'(

[pedzola]

:'( <-- thats for missing $15k car w/1.9%


I thought $16,900 @ 2.9% was pretty good. :'(

blueiedgod - Danbury is too far away. It's about 2 hours from here. :(

[SiGuy]

"Some dude" dosen't know what he is talking about. That car must have been a dogged demo or it had been wreaked by someone at the dealership. A dealer will wholesale a car out before we lose 3k on a honda. Other than those senarios it is the ol "bait and switch"

[djaaronk]

Honda knows that most people don't like the looks of the Si. I think it's Edmunds.com or Yahoo Autos that shows that Si's account for only 4% of all yearly Civic sales. When you figure it out...that's not a lot of cars. Honda is willing to make some moves to get the Si's of dealers lots. I only hope I can be one of the lucky ones to grab one that they are dying to get rid of.

[SiGuy]

The Si's are aimed at narrow demographic, Honda knows this, they have always known this. But that still dosen't justify selling them at 3k under invoice as some would suggest. 16500 is as low as I will go on them. After all it's still a Honda. By the way, that's on a 03 and I have three!!

[pedzola]

Thanks siGuy, that makes me feel better. lol :D