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jo3y
01-28-2004, 01:47 PM
Well My si suspension is gone. I think all 4 struts are blown and it is riding like complete shit. Ive had drop progress springs for approx one year ( which includes a michigan winter ) I bottoms out hard now. Anyway as soon as it gets abouve 10 degrees here im pulling it all out and going with a full coilover like tein or something. Does anyone have any suggestions on complete suspensions, and will i need to replace any ball joints, connecting rods, ect from driving it with blown struts? Any help appricated

andy
01-28-2004, 02:33 PM
Plenty of folks are happy with the Mugen suspension. IMO, seems least
succeptable to noises/fitment issues. Also supposedly helps with the
bump-steer.

I have Tein SS's and I'm fairly happy with them. I would have liked
to go with the KW V2's, but I happened upon the SS's for cheap.

I don't think you'll need to replace anything else, but I could be
wrong.

SiRacer03
01-28-2004, 02:41 PM
Man, I just put on Progress Springs yesterday. I didn't cut the bumpstops, I didn't want to mess with it even though the instructions say so. It hits the bumpstops harshly only on hard bumps but otherwise rides like stock. Hopefully mine will last longer than that.

Peking
01-28-2004, 03:08 PM
Originally posted by SiRacer03
Man, I just put on Progress Springs yesterday. I didn't cut the bumpstops, I didn't want to mess with it even though the instructions say so. It hits the bumpstops harshly only on hard bumps but otherwise rides like stock. Hopefully mine will last longer than that.

You just might. Like Andy was suggesting, Mugen is a good choice. I will be upgrading to those after I get tired of my springs.

Tenacious G
01-28-2004, 03:11 PM
i'm not sure about the mugens, but the KWs are stainless steel so the salt put down on the roads won't corrode (too much) them.

03silverEP
01-28-2004, 05:12 PM
this place has tein basic for $773

http://www.apexr1.com/teinbasichonda.html

esmith13
01-28-2004, 05:20 PM
you say it's riding like shit and bottoms out more....

Ever think it's just your HYDROLIC shocks suffering from a bitter cold winter?? When spring returns i bet you don't bottom out half as much... Also, if your shocks are gone, you car would uncontrolably bounce around on the springs.... after all, preventing that is really the shock's only function...

Last winter mine got HARSH. it got better again in the warmer weather - back to the way it was before.... Now their bad again this winter....

HYDROLIC shocks..... Fluid filled ;)

Eric

Peking
01-28-2004, 05:58 PM
Originally posted by 03silverEP
this place has tein basic for $773

http://www.apexr1.com/teinbasichonda.html

Um... add that again player. It is $863.00 not including shipping , Robear has it for $825.00 not including shipping. Showstoppers has um for $899.00 shipped.

Showstoppers frickin rules :D

styllinep3
01-28-2004, 06:44 PM
our stock shocks are gas not oil. i read that.

HondaMan
01-28-2004, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by Peking
Um... add that again player. It is $863.00 not including shipping , Robear has it for $825.00 not including shipping. Showstoppers has um for $899.00 shipped.

Showstoppers frickin rules :D

True, SSUSA rules! However, I'm afriad you are wrong Jon they are $773 + shipping via Apex. :D

I agree the Mugen's are nice but you get far more bang for your buck with the Tein Basics. They work great regardless of what you may or may not hear...mine are going on 6 months old and riding like new!

esmith13
01-28-2004, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by styllinep3
our stock shocks are gas not oil. i read that.

According to the service manual for 02-03 Si they are HYDROLIC shocks.

Now ALL shocks are gas filled, but Hydrolic shocks are oil AND gas - which is what we have.

if you have a Service manual you can find the info on the specifications page (#2-12).

Eric

styllinep3
01-28-2004, 07:45 PM
well in the civic si 2002 brocure it states:


" gas-pressurized progressive-valve shock absorbers offer aggresive damper valving for precise conering, yet provide a smooth ride and comfort."

thats right out of there so someone some wheres got some wrong info.


either way this is the info i went on so . yours is probably right ;)

esmith13
01-28-2004, 07:48 PM
no, hydrolic shocks are gas PREASSURIZED not gas filled... it says it right there... all oil shocks are gas PREASSURIZED....

Eric

k20hatch
01-28-2004, 07:52 PM
My struts are still running strong!! probley not for long though after my first comment!

4g63dsm
01-28-2004, 08:19 PM
Originally posted by esmith13
no, hydrolic shocks are gas PREASSURIZED not gas filled... it says it right there... all oil shocks are gas PREASSURIZED....

Eric Pressurized. Go back to school.

esmith13
01-28-2004, 08:57 PM
I gradmiated schol dammmitt!!!!

Eric ;)

jo3y
01-28-2004, 10:01 PM
maybe it is the cold, after all it did ride good when it was warm out. I have to wait untill spring to work on it anyway so maybe if im lucky the warm weather will just make things better :)

downhil
01-28-2004, 10:17 PM
the shocks/struts are hydraulically damped (meaning fluid is what slows them down) and gas pressurized to keep the oil from foaming and bubbling as the shock piston cycles through the fluid.

SiRacer03
01-28-2004, 11:48 PM
And if you still have doubt, look at the Koni inserts install. Fluid leaks out when you take out the old struts.

97 TYPE-R 312
01-31-2004, 07:30 PM
I love my Mugens!!

-Victor