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Civilian
02-03-2004, 09:58 AM
From Import Tuner comes this quote in a column about tuning the '03 EP:

"The engine has been proven to make 230 hp with mild bolt-ons."

(See the rest of the story here: http://www.importtuner.com/tech/0307it_ppcivic/)

In the story, though, they add less than 14hp for about $1400 doing the usual "mild bolt-ons" (i/h/e).

Any idea what's up with this? When was it "proven" that our little K-series can crank out 230 with mild bolt-ons? These guys blowing smoke out their tailpipes or is a car mag's definition of "mild" different than it is for the rest of us?
jaydub
02-03-2004, 10:11 AM
On a K20A2 (type S) motor, I believe it. On ours, no way in hell.
DavidT
02-03-2004, 10:12 AM
I dunno, but their $720 exhaust system only added like 3.2 HP and lost torque :eek: And the motor lost even more torque when they added the DC Sports header. Interesting.
BlairSpeed
02-03-2004, 10:22 AM
Interesting article, and I remember reading about some company racing CTR's and getting 230hp with bolt-ons, but thats with the K20, not our engines. :(

I think the SRI is the best investment. A header and exhaust seem to only give minimal hp gains and an overall loss in torque. Someone should do some dyno testing on different exhausts/header setups to find the best combo! :D
dtexan
02-03-2004, 10:24 AM
compared to stock 133hp my car gained roughly 16hp from intake and cat-back exhaust to make 149
Peking
02-03-2004, 10:24 AM
Originally posted by jaydub
On a K20A2 (type S) motor, I believe it. On ours, no way in hell.

Yeah, they forgot to mention that.
k20hatch
02-03-2004, 10:30 AM
On a K20A2 (type S) motor

K20a2's are overrated.


















"Slapping self in the face" :D
STP03BlueSI
02-03-2004, 10:34 AM
I really hate to say this..but that article is about 4-5months old. And if i am correct there was a huge discussion, about this.:)
Civilian
02-03-2004, 10:49 AM
Fair enough.

Yes, the article is from July and it has been discussed at length in the forums, but what I didn't find discussed from a search was the claim about the 230 from the mild bolt-ons. If I missed the thread on this, I'd appreciate a link.
BlairSpeed
02-03-2004, 10:55 AM
Originally posted by Civilian
Fair enough.

Yes, the article is from July and it has been discussed at length in the forums, but what I didn't find discussed from a search was the claim about the 230 from the mild bolt-ons. If I missed the thread on this, I'd appreciate a link.

Diddo!
Peking
02-03-2004, 10:55 AM
Originally posted by Civilian
Fair enough.

Yes, the article is from July and it has been discussed at length in the forums, but what I didn't find discussed from a search was the claim about the 230 from the mild bolt-ons. If I missed the thread on this, I'd appreciate a link.

None of us really think that is close; even to the fly wheel. So we only made jokes about it. To the wheels the A2 produces anywhere from 150-180 whp stock. Mild bolt-on maybe around 180-210- including flash IMO. Toda package is quite attractive.
K-Series
02-03-2004, 10:57 AM
First, the 230 is crank, not whp. So we start at 160 chp stock.

The article is still FOS, but it's not full of as much.


Steve
2k2ep
02-03-2004, 11:20 AM
Maybe someone from cybernation convinced the writer that the stage 1 was a mild bolt on. hehehe
STP03BlueSI
02-03-2004, 12:01 PM
Originally posted by Civilian
Fair enough.

Yes, the article is from July and it has been discussed at length in the forums, but what I didn't find discussed from a search was the claim about the 230 from the mild bolt-ons. If I missed the thread on this, I'd appreciate a link.

Link 1 (http://www.ephatch.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18387)

Link 2 (http://www.ephatch.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=14368)


There you go..2 links.:D ;)
Civilian
02-03-2004, 12:02 PM
Just goes to show you ... be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.
irrational
02-03-2004, 12:10 PM
quote from IT:
Pros: The K-series engine is turning out to be a valuable commodity in the aftermarket world. For one, it's got JMD counterparts, and two, the engine has been proven to make 230 hp with mild bolt-ons.

if you cant type JDM second nature than you know shit in my book.........hahaha fkn JMD cmon editors!!! yeah i wish we could get 230 hp out of an a3 but that is purely fictional.
STP03BlueSI
02-03-2004, 12:23 PM
Originally posted by irrational
quote from IT:
Pros: The K-series engine is turning out to be a valuable commodity in the aftermarket world. For one, it's got JMD counterparts, and two, the engine has been proven to make 230 hp with mild bolt-ons.

if you cant type JDM second nature than you know shit in my book.........hahaha fkn JMD cmon editors!!! yeah i wish we could get 230 hp out of an a3 but that is purely fictional.


LMAO!!!! thats that Fork Sports talkin....or is it spoon...:D

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