Greddy Dyno #'s

[vtecnrg]

Dyno numbers for the Greddy turbo today. SAE Horsepower & Torque.
HP - 231.3 Torque - 201.2 BTW, no intercooler, all stock emanage settings. Invidia exhaust.

http://photos.imageevent.com/markandtracy/dynoday//websize/P2220104.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/markandtracy/dynoday//websize/P2210084.jpg

[rook]

These figures came off a dynojet dyno at 5400 ft elevation. I ran my car a little after vtecnrg and posted 140.5 hp and 126.5 tq. I saw the run, very very impressed by his numbers.

7 ep's dyno'd back to back today. Very fun/interesting meet. Also got to see a 300zxTT put down 550 hp.

rook

[CSMsi311]

nice numbers.. do you plan on running the intercooler?

also, what size are your fuel injectors? what is your fuel pressure?

[vtecnrg]

Originally posted by CSMsi311
nice numbers.. do you plan on running the intercooler?

also, what size are your fuel injectors? what is your fuel pressure?

Thanks, I should have the intercooler before summer. Greddy fuel injectors for the Si kit are 440cc. Turbo is the T517Z. Fuel pressure stock.

[blackout]

I ran mine right after the turbo, mines completly stock (134.5hp). I'm sold on the greddy.

VERY impresive numbers today Mark.:cool:

[seattlecivic]

badasssss

[03EP3Si]

how much were you boosting??

[Vertigo]

Those are damn good numbers. Plus not having a IC and a tweaked e-manage is even more impresive.

[vtecnrg]

Originally posted by 03EP3Si
how much were you boosting??

The factory settings from Greddy have been left as is, it is hard to tell exactly on the boost gauge, 6.5-7lbs? I am hoping the intercooler pushes it up over 250 wheel hp. It amazes me that this kit is designed to run efficiently at 27psi. It is currently my daily driver about 65 miles round trip.

[2k2SiAutoXer]

i just cant get over the numbers that we are all seeing from these turbo kits. I have not been into imports for too long but it seems that this motor responds better than most to turbo apps. Anyways, back on topic. I get my turbo slapped on really soon, and i cant wait to compare it to vtcrng's.

--Tom

[PAPITUYO326]

every time i go to the dyno section i find myself lookin at this thread....

those are serious numbers to be pushin out...specially w/out an intercooler

david

[vtecnrg]

Originally posted by PAPITUYO326
every time i go to the dyno section i find myself lookin at this thread....

those are serious numbers to be pushin out...specially w/out an intercooler

david

I think about them everyday when I am driving it. I came across a ZO6 yesterday and while I was not faster you should have seen the look on the guys face. You could see those wheels turning upstairs and I would swear I saw a little smoke coming from his ears as he was trying to figure out why a little Civic Si could hang so well.

[blackout]

Hell yeah, thats awesome about the Z06... I can't wait for another ride.:D

[D16Y8_Turbo]

Originally posted by 2k2SiAutoXer
I get my turbo slapped on really soon, and i cant wait to compare it to vtcrng's.

--Tom

When are you installing your Greddy Kit? Looks like I will have to go to the dyno for a few pulls with the reflash and IC. :)

[SiGuy]

Wow! Great numbers! Was that the Greddy kit that goes for about 2500 bucks? How bad was the install? I've been trying to decide between a jrsc, A2 swap, or a k24a2 swap. But if that Greddy is putting down 230 for abut 2500 bucks, I'm sold.

[D16Y8_Turbo]

Originally posted by SiGuy
Wow! Great numbers! Was that the Greddy kit that goes for about 2500 bucks? How bad was the install? I've been trying to decide between a jrsc, A2 swap, or a k24a2 swap. But if that Greddy is putting down 230 for abut 2500 bucks, I'm sold.

His setup is a little more expensive than $2500. To me, Greddy vs. JR is simple. There are no dynos of a supercharged K20A3 making the horsepower that the turbo cars are doing. Greddy is your choice my fellow ephatch member.

[SiGuy]

Yeah, after a little more research I think I'm gonna go with the k24a2. I'm getting free instillation from a certified honda master tech. He's itching to build a k series, and with the k24 block, a2 head, aftermarket rods and pistons I'm looking at around 2500 dollars, not to mention more power.

It's better to be fast, than to look fast.

[D16Y8_Turbo]

Originally posted by SiGuy
He's itching to build a k series, and with the k24 block, a2 head, aftermarket rods and pistons I'm looking at around 2500 dollars, not to mention more power.

It's better to be fast, than to look fast.

Not trying to take your moment but...the K24A2 swap vs. a boosted K20A3 is not a contest. I understand your "building" the internals but I just can foresee that much power being extracted from the K24 being NA. Prove me wrong :D

[SiGuy]

There is a guy who posts here( I can't remember who) but he claims putting down 217 whp, 205 trq I think, with a k24a2 with all stock parts. So with higher compression from rods and pistons, who knows 240whp? With free labor, 2500 dollars roughly. I plan on autocrossing so trq is very important to me, while turbo lag is not. Although my tech wants to boost this k24a2, that's really more power than I need. I'll post dyno #s when this day comes.

[2k2_nbp_egg]

Supercharge it....but most of the k24 + a2 head swapped (k24a2 is the tsx motor i believe?) motor's have been in the low 180-190whp range, but w/ much more tq and a much broader powerband. I still can't get over hasport's s/c'd 2.4L ep, 260-270ish whp...and on top of that they're rebuilding it w/ slightly higher compression pistons :eek:

[SiGuy]

I'm kinda leaning toward the greddy turbo since I've only got about 3k to work with. Good point about the k20a2 being the TSX motor, I never thought about it but you're probably right.

[D16Y8_Turbo]

The TSX is a 2.4L and therefore I believe that the engine code is K24A maybe K24A2.

[SiGuy]

It would make sense that they would use the a2 head.

[silvaep3rider]

I saw a couple of used turbo kits on ebay and was just wondering if its fine to buy preused boost. there was about 3500 miles put on it.
-Navid

[silvaep3rider]

I saw a couple of used turbo kits on ebay and was just wondering if its fine to buy preused boost. there was about 3500 miles put on it.
-Navid

[smilla0]

Wow, those Greddy numbers are great. What I'm curious about is why ep_nezay was only getting 180-190 whp on his non-I/C setup? Does yours have a newer version of the e-manage calibration than his? If you can really get numbers like that from the basic Greddy kit, I'll definitely have to do that.

[blackout]

Originally posted by smilla0
Wow, those Greddy numbers are great. What I'm curious about is why ep_nezay was only getting 180-190 whp on his non-I/C setup? Does yours have a newer version of the e-manage calibration than his? If you can really get numbers like that from the basic Greddy kit, I'll definitely have to do that.

the elevation plays a small part in the numbers, also vtecnrg has an invidia exhaust, that probably helped a little too.;) what does the other non- I/C setup have other than the turb?

[smilla0]

Not sure, but I think his was otherwise stock. I think ep_nezay was in cali at a lower elevation than vtecnrg. An exhaust and/or intake may help a little, but I have a hard time believing that it would create a 50 hp spread. The numbers I'm quoting are supposed to be his "bolt-on" runs before tuning. vtecnrg wasn't running a test pipe or anything, was he?

I'm wondering which set of numbers I could expect to get.

[blackout]

nope, no test pipe. and the greddy kit comes complete with the greddy arrinx intake. The guy that runs the dyno place we went to said something about the machine and how it corrects the hp numbers due to altitude, but I guess the turbo fights it or something...

I'm not sure exactly how it works but he said the number might be lower at a lower elevation.

[Ill_eagle94]

Hmmm you would definately NOT make less power at a lower altitude.
Think about the Pikes Peak Hillclimb, as the cars increase in elevation, the horsepower that they produce declines.

bhp loss = (elevation in feet/1000) x 0.03 x bhp at sea level

[WPB EP3]

dont you guys think greddys ep3 kit is weak. those numbers are impressive but other kits make more power safely. Sure they cost more , but youll go faster.

[ecsahs3]

yeah. i'm lost though. i thought the greddy kit was pushing 180 sumthin' whp. is this due to a new e-manage?

[D16Y8_Turbo]

If he is in Cali, the highest octane there is 91 versus 94 here in Ohio. Fuel octane will also play a part as well as elevation and boost pressure.

[smilla0]

dont you guys think greddys ep3 kit is weak. those numbers are impressive but other kits make more power safely. Sure they cost more , but youll go faster.

I don't know, it seems to depend on whose dyno you're going by. 230 whp is great for $2200, but 180-190 isn't so great, especially for a turbo. People seem to be able to put down about 260-270 whp with an intercooler, which would be enough for me, and you could get that for about 3k all together if you shopped around. Not a bad deal, really. If you want more than that, I'd definitely go with another kit, though. I just wish we had more dynos of the greddy kit so we knew what kind of numbers to expect.

[Lucid Moments]

dont you guys think greddys ep3 kit is weak. those numbers are impressive but other kits make more power safely. Sure they cost more , but youll go faster.

You also got to look at what your using it for. The Greddy kit uses a smaller turbo that will spool up quicker than the other kits that make more power. From what I understand the Greddy kit makes its power lower in the rev range. While that won't make a difference on a race car, it will probably be easier to drive on the street.

[gr33nnugz]

nice #'s :D....got some loot from selling my stocks at work... ordering greddy kit now

[sleepin02si]

nice #'s :D....got some loot from selling my stocks at work... ordering greddy kit now
Did you get the kit?