Comptech Exhaust [Archive]

ssvr6

10-09-2002, 04:22 AM

There's NO WAY that exhaust can be that much better stock. At least not $700 better. Hell, you can have mandrel bent pipes installed for WAY less with the same (or better) performance gains.

Insane.

I just want to know why Comptech is better. Not because it sounds cool or looks good. I want to know actual numbers, build specifications, etc...

I think you guys are getting this exhaust for the same reason you buy Tommy. Name brand.....

High costs does not equate to high quality. You can spend less and still get more.

Steve

02SilverSiHB

10-09-2002, 05:55 AM

Originally posted by ssvr6
There's NO WAY that exhaust can be that much better stock. At least not $700 better. Hell, you can have mandrel bent pipes installed for WAY less with the same (or better) performance gains.

Insane.

I just want to know why Comptech is better. Not because it sounds cool or looks good. I want to know actual numbers, build specifications, etc...

I think you guys are getting this exhaust for the same reason you buy Tommy. Name brand.....

High costs does not equate to high quality. You can spend less and still get more.

Steve
I agree with you. it's just too damn much! not worth it, probably the same amount of a gain a custom mendrel pieping would be. I like the looks of the stock muffler anyway. I think I'll save my dough and get a custom mid pipe :D
I don't think exhaust help out these cars much anyway, they are good from the start. I think I saw a dyno where the exhaust only gave like 2hp to the wheels......for 700! No thanks, put that towards a turbo!

PoRT

10-09-2002, 09:51 AM

There's NO WAY that exhaust can be that much better stock. At least not $700 better. Hell, you can have mandrel bent pipes installed for WAY less with the same (or better) performance gains.

Think of it this way.. why do you think it is taking APEX and Greddy so long to produce these products.. the arnt just sitting there with their thumbs up their asses, they are doing tests after tests after tests etc... these exausts are being tested on dynos for long periods of time to get it right. who do you think knows more... a quality EXAUST company that does months of research and tests before releasing a product specifically for our cars, or some schmo that works at mighty muffler who can whip up something in 1 day? im putting my money on the company lol

thats just my opinion though, i could be wrong..

02SilverSiHB

10-09-2002, 10:10 AM

Pradamuimui

10-09-2002, 10:15 AM

ssvr6

10-09-2002, 10:27 AM

Originally posted by PoRT

Think of it this way.. why do you think it is taking APEX and Greddy so long to produce these products.. the arnt just sitting there with their thumbs up their asses, they are doing tests after tests after tests etc... these exausts are being tested on dynos for long periods of time to get it right. who do you think knows more... a quality EXAUST company that does months of research and tests before releasing a product specifically for our cars, or some schmo that works at mighty muffler who can whip up something in 1 day? im putting my money on the company lol

thats just my opinion though, i could be wrong..

My point is this. There isn't hundreds of hours of R&D on the the midpipe. The R&D is on the look and sound. Getting power is easy, I'm sorry, when you're talking about exhausts, it's true.

They try a few pipe sizes (maybe different bends) and then they hit the resonators and muffler. Once they have some comments on the sound and the look, it's released.

What's taking so long is meeting CARB regulations and noise laws. Don't kid yourselves. They want their exhausts to meet these guidelines since that's where a majority of the business is. (California)

A mandrel bent midpipe, removed resonator and stock muffler will make the same power as a $700 exhuast. I'll bet money on it.

Steve

Pradamuimui

10-09-2002, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by ssvr6

My point is this. There isn't hundreds of hours of R&D on the the midpipe. The R&D is on the look and sound. Getting power is easy, I'm sorry, when you're talking about exhausts, it's true.

They try a few pipe sizes (maybe different bends) and then they hit the resonators and muffler. Once they have some comments on the sound and the look, it's released.

What's taking so long is meeting CARB regulations and noise laws. Don't kid yourselves. They want their exhausts to meet these guidelines since that's where a majority of the business is. (California)

A mandrel bent midpipe, removed resonator and stock muffler will make the same power as a $700 exhuast. I'll bet money on it.

Steve

Actually there is a lot of hours on the piping to the exhaust. If you remember right several compnies have found that if you make the piping to big on this K-series motor, that you seem to loose power through the whole power band. You cant deny that Spoon and Comptech are 2 of the BEST companies for aftermarket parts for our car. If its cheap that you want go with APC :p

ssvr6

10-09-2002, 10:46 AM

I'm not being a dick here, but seriously, how old are you? It's your close mind that's holding you back from realizing that high ticket doesn't equal high quality. (BMW's are very expensive and yet they spend a lot of time at the dealer with electrical issues and CEL's.)

How long does it take for a muffler shop to bend a pipe in place? Double that for mandrel bending and add 50% for possible air flow tests. That number will NEVER equal a year. I'm sorry, I don't care what math you use. They're market testing them for looks, sound, and advertising stratedgy.

They have a basic template. They make various pipes and resonators (varying sizes and make up) and they dyno them.

If I had the facilities, I could do it. It's not rocket science. It's simple backpressure, power gained, torque, flow, etc...

Oh yeah, and when I'm running faster than you for a quarter of the cost, will it matter that you're running a comptech exhaust?

Now, I'm not talking about heads, pistons, rods, etc. I'm talking about simple things like intakes, exhausts, etc.

I agree, there are some parts you don't skimp on, but exhausts? What a joke.

Steve

Pradamuimui

10-09-2002, 10:51 AM

Originally posted by ssvr6
I'm not being a dick here, but seriously, how old are you? It's your close mind that's holding you back from realizing that high ticket doesn't equal high quality. (BMW's are very expensive and yet they spend a lot of time at the dealer with electrical issues and CEL's.)

How long does it take for a muffler shop to bend a pipe in place? Double that for mandrel bending and add 50% for possible air flow tests. That number will NEVER equal a year. I'm sorry, I don't care what math you use. They're market testing them for looks, sound, and advertising stratedgy.

They have a basic template. They make various pipes and resonators (varying sizes and make up) and they dyno them.

If I had the facilities, I could do it. It's not rocket science. It's simple backpressure, power gained, torque, flow, etc...

Oh yeah, and when I'm running faster than you for a quarter of the cost, will it matter that you're running a comptech exhaust?

Now, I'm not talking about heads, pistons, rods, etc. I'm talking about simple things like intakes, exhausts, etc.

I agree, there are some parts you don't skimp on, but exhausts? What a joke.

Steve

Ok...lets do it. Im doing all Spoon and Comptech mods, and you do all APC, and then we will see who does better!!!

K20ACTR

10-09-2002, 10:55 AM

For some strange reason I'd put money on Spoon and Comptech. :D

My98nsx

10-09-2002, 10:57 AM

Fellas, what I like about comptech is this; Comptech is a Honda/Acura specialist, they perform test upon test with state of the art equipment, and have plenty of data to support their research.
But the most important reason is that they come with a great warranty, many Honda/Acura dealers are "official distributors" of their products, and honor service and warranties.
I put on an AM cai on my son's car, but when I heard Comptech would probably release products for the Si, I put all other upgrades on hold. The cost to me is worth it, I sleep better at nights knowing there are good products on the cars.
Like the old saying goes...."you can pay now, or you can PAY later".

Regards,
hms....my 2 cents worth

Pradamuimui

10-09-2002, 11:00 AM

Originally posted by My98nsx
Fellas, what I like about comptech is this; Comptech is a Honda/Acura specialist, they perform test upon test with state of the art equipment, and have plenty of data to support their research.
But the most important reason is that they come with a great warranty, many Honda/Acura dealers are "official distributors" of their products, and honor service and warranties.
I put on an AM cai on my son's car, but when I heard Comptech would probably release products for the Si, I put all other upgrades on hold. The cost to me is worth it, I sleep better at nights knowing there are good products on the cars.
Like the old saying goes...."you can pay now, or you can PAY later".

Regards,
hms....my 2 cents worth

This is what Ive been trying to explain to SSRV6, but he doesnt seem to understand. He thinks that all of us who buy Comptech or Spoon are STUPID, and that we should all go out and buy the cheapest shit we can find for our cars!!! :p

nikkotyper

10-09-2002, 11:27 AM

I live near by Comptech and have visited their facillity more than once since my fellow autocrosser works there. They produce top notch products and slap a good price on it, too.
However, $700 for less than 5 HP (more likely 2-3 HP) IS a waste of money.
Let's just wait and see what others will develop. For now, I am happy with the stock exhaust. I do agree with SSVR6 - it seems that there is not much to exhaust development once you have done it once and developed a template.

Nevertheless, as I said people buy Comptech not because the name sounds cool but because they established themselves as honest and reputable manufacturer for Acuras/Hondas. Maybe 2-3 HP is as much as we can get from the aftermarket exhaust after all!

02SilverSiHB

10-09-2002, 11:28 AM

Originally posted by Pradamuimui

This is what Ive been trying to explain to SSRV6, but he doesnt seem to understand. He thinks that all of us who buy Comptech or Spoon are STUPID, and that we should all go out and buy the cheapest shit we can find for our cars!!! :p
I don't think he's trying to say that. He's talking about performance....the main issue behind the engine forum....not looks and sound. Comptech is one of the best out there, I will not deny it. They do great tests to insure the best gains, with the best quality, and the best sound (for those that care). Now a mendrel bent pipe and no resonator supposedly sounds good and not "APC" as you are describing SSRV6 comments. The gains are not going to be that much more than the mendrel piping, if there are any gains, compared to a comptech. It's just a fact, miamijdm shows his dyno to prove this. when comptech put their exhaust,intake and header on an Si, the gains were about the same. It's not the most horsepower that means much to me, but the entire power band. If one exhaust makes 10 and another makes 8, but yet the one that makes 10 has a terrible power band curve compared to the one with 8. I'd go with 8 over 10. Now I'm sure comptech will make sure their exhaust has a great power band curve on the dyno......hince why it's so damn expensive, as I'm sure they do take a lot of time to work on an exhaust for our car. It seems honda made it hard for them.....

Pradamuimui

10-09-2002, 12:10 PM

So where back to Comptech and Spoon is the best!!:p I mean lets face it, you get what you pay for!! NEVER forget that.

PoRT

10-09-2002, 12:11 PM

it may be ok for you.. to each his own, however, for me, i will be going turbo, so it will be worthwhile to pay the extra cash for the setup.. im not saying i would go with comptech, i like APEX better, but i will wait and see which one reacts better to the turbo.

Remember, a chain is only as strong as its weakest link

ssvr6

10-09-2002, 01:48 PM

Again, I understand the need for quality parts. I'm not buying a turbo from KMart. At the same time, I'm not buying a gold plated 'spoon' when a plastic spork does the same job.

I never said the don't make a quality part, please don't misunderstand my point. I'm not attacking the quality. My point is why spend $700+ on a catback exhaust when I can have one made (professionally mandrel bent, not crush) and get the same results at a fraction of the cost.

That is my point.

Pradamuimui however has a bad disorder. (Associating price with quality). I can go buy an intake for $200 or I can make a comprable one for $100. If they both dyno the same gains, who came out ahead?

Pradamuimui's lack of real world experience is very apparent. You'll understand me one day.

Steve

02SilverSiHB

10-09-2002, 01:52 PM

Originally posted by ssvr6
Again, I understand the need for quality parts. I'm not buying a turbo from KMart. At the same time, I'm not buying a gold plated 'spoon' when a plastic spork does the same job.

I never said the don't make a quality part, please don't misunderstand my point. I'm not attacking the quality. My point is why spend $700+ on a catback exhaust when I can have one made (professionally mandrel bent, not crush) and get the same results at a fraction of the cost.

That is my point.

Pradamuimui however has a bad disorder. (Associating price with quality). I can go buy an intake for $200 or I can make a comprable one for $100. If they both dyno the same gains, who came out ahead?

Pradamuimui's lack of real world experience is very apparent. You'll understand me one day.

Steve
it must be pra's first car....actually he just doesn't want anyone to think the way we do, because he actually bought one. If I had money to waste, I'd get it, but I want to save that extra dough for a turbo

PoRT

10-09-2002, 02:02 PM

first off..

I'm not buying a gold plated 'spoon' when a plastic spork does the same job.
LMAO!
then again.. a plastc spork is good for taco bell, not for Filet Mignon.

anyway, i am with you on certain points.. hell i bought wanna be spoon rims, why? much cheaper.. durable.. and light. all i am saying is that for ME, i think that an exaust built and tested on a dyno, i trust a little more than my mighty muffler guy, lol. i dunno, maybe my mighty muffler guys are just retartd over here hehe, but since i am spending lots of cash on a turbo and intercooler etc.. i want to go with something that i KNOW is proven. i am just afraid that my retard muffler guys dont know shit and will only hurt my performance. its not like i can get my money back after i go dyno it lol

ssvr6

10-09-2002, 02:38 PM

I agree, but I'm going to a tuner that does the mandrel bending, not Meineke.

:D

Steve

PoRT

10-09-2002, 02:59 PM

lol, good luck, let us know how it works out.

Pradamuimui

10-09-2002, 03:08 PM

Originally posted by 02SilverSiHB

it must be pra's first car....actually he just doesn't want anyone to think the way we do, because he actually bought one. If I had money to waste, I'd get it, but I want to save that extra dough for a turbo

You and SSRV6 should get together and look through the new APC catalog together, or get together and have the local muffler shop make you an exhaust made out of some aluminum cans that are welded together, hey the same horsepower means the same quality right?? WRONG! Just because its cheaper and gets the same HP doest mean that its the same QUALITY!! Missed that point didnt ya?? Also how do you know that with ur custom bent piping that you put the right size on?? Ru going to be by a Dyno machine testing ur creation?? I dont think so!! I dont have lots of money, and Im not rich either. But I do know that you get what you pay for!! If I could have gotten the Comptech catback cheaper..I would have. I not buying it because its more expensive, Im buying it because IT IS A QUALITY PART FOR MY CAR. I know that it has been tested thoroughly by trained engineers, not people hired off the street. So you and SSRV6 can say what you want to. Same horsepower, that could possibly be true...Im not calling you a liar...but same quality??? I THINK NOT!!!

K20ACTR

10-09-2002, 03:18 PM

I don't think hes trying to say that its going to be the same quality. I think hes trying to say why spend the extra money if the results are the same? PRADA, i totally agree with you because I am the exact same way when it comes to parts. Except for my Rota wheels (friend gave them to me for free). Some people just like knowing that they have quality parts on their car. Other people don't really care either way. Theres no right or wrong.

My98nsx

10-09-2002, 03:27 PM

Guys, guys, guys! In a way I can see both points, but can see Pradamuimui's....(nice clothes by the way)....point of view a little clearer. The fact remains, that in the event of a failure in your engine bay, you can take your vehicle to a dealer with confidence.
Try taking one that has been surgically "effed" with from, where are we going, oh yeah, mighty muffler. See how long before the service guy starts licking his chops, and writes a fat work order!
The reason I like reputtable names, is that at least I have some recourse in case of bad news. I try to call it "looking at the big picture".

Regards,
hms

p.s. don't bash me, I'm just an old man with an opinion about
his kid's car

Pradamuimui

10-09-2002, 03:33 PM

Originally posted by My98nsx
Guys, guys, guys! In a way I can see both points, but can see Pradamuimui's....(nice clothes by the way)....point of view a little clearer. The fact remains, that in the event of a failure in your engine bay, you can take your vehicle to a dealer with confidence.
Try taking one that has been surgically "effed" with from, where are we going, oh yeah, mighty muffler. See how long before the service guy starts licking his chops, and writes a fat work order!
The reason I like reputtable names, is that at least I have some recourse in case of bad news. I try to call it "looking at the big picture".

Regards,
hms

p.s. don't bash me, I'm just an old man with an opinion about
his kid's car

WELL SAID!!!

2K2SilverSi

10-09-2002, 03:37 PM

What if for the custom midpipe one uses the stainless steel just as comptech does, use the same size pipeing and mandrel bend the pipe through the same channels under the car that comptech (and where honda runs the stock pipeing as well) and then you run it through the stock honda muffler are you saying this is not as good as the comptech one? I bet it would make alot more power, cost atleast half of comptechs and the stock muffler is probably made better than comptechs is.

Pradamuimui

10-09-2002, 03:42 PM

Originally posted by 2K2SilverSi
What if for the custom midpipe one uses the stainless steel just as comptech does, use the same size pipeing and mandrel bend the pipe through the same channels under the car that comptech (and where honda runs the stock pipeing as well) and then you run it through the stock honda muffler are you saying this is not as good as the comptech one? I bet it would make alot more power, cost atleast half of comptechs and the stock muffler is probably made better than comptechs is.

I cant argue with you there, because I am a believer that factory parts are of the highest quality ESPECIALY HONDA PARTS!!:D But at the same time I believe that Comptech could be as good. Why do I think this??? Well its because both Honda and Acura dealerships have the select dealerships that are Comptech dealers. You dont see them carrying the local muffler shops exhaust, not Greddy's, not any other exhaust...just COMPTECHS. So I think that if Honda thinks its good enough, well then its good enough for me. Call a Acura or Honda deaer that carry's Comptechs line of products and ask them on a scale of 1-10 what the quality, and performace is of the Comptech line of products??

My98nsx

10-09-2002, 03:48 PM

Pradamuimui

10-09-2002, 03:53 PM

Originally posted by My98nsx

That's the thing. It could be original Comptech stuff that "fell" of the Comptech truck. You don't have "paperwork", you don't get repairs. I'm not willing to take that chance. What if THE BOSS of mighty muffler drops dead?

Regards,
hms

No one understands our point...let them buy junk, and yes thats what I said. Thats my opinion!!!!

02SilverSiHB

10-09-2002, 04:18 PM

Originally posted by Pradamuimui

You and SSRV6 should get together and look through the new APC catalog together, or get together and have the local muffler shop make you an exhaust made out of some aluminum cans that are welded together, hey the same horsepower means the same quality right?? WRONG! Just because its cheaper and gets the same HP doest mean that its the same QUALITY!! Missed that point didnt ya?? Also how do you know that with ur custom bent piping that you put the right size on?? Ru going to be by a Dyno machine testing ur creation?? I dont think so!! I dont have lots of money, and Im not rich either. But I do know that you get what you pay for!! If I could have gotten the Comptech catback cheaper..I would have. I not buying it because its more expensive, Im buying it because IT IS A QUALITY PART FOR MY CAR. I know that it has been tested thoroughly by trained engineers, not people hired off the street. So you and SSRV6 can say what you want to. Same horsepower, that could possibly be true...Im not calling you a liar...but same quality??? I THINK NOT!!!
I'm not going to sit here and do this internet fighting crap with you. I never said they are the same quality. Did I!? No, I didn't. If you want the comptech, get it. I could care less. We're just stating facts. How will I know it's the right size? I'll measure it....it's not rocket science. Yes, I will run my car on the dyno if I want. Money wise, I can't see you saying you don't have the cash flow if you paid over 600 for an exhaust. Getting a dyno number is one thing....tuning with a dyno is extra money....I don't plan on them tuning my i/h/e setup...what could they tune...my throttle cable :rolleyes: I may never get a mendrel bent piping done, if I can't find a good shop around here....which there are not to many. But I'm not going to spend that much money on comptech, unless I'm more finacially secure. I never said I don't like comptech....you need to read everything before you jump to conclusions....how old are you? Have you not seen the dyno numbers miamijdm posted a while back? I'm not hiring someone off the street. did you know your comptech is mendrel bent to? that's what ssrv6 and I are talking about getting, not crushed bent. Did you think your comptech was made by a magical force of nature? damn man, get a clue!

02SilverSiHB

10-09-2002, 04:24 PM

Originally posted by Pradamuimui

No one understands our point...let them buy junk, an yes thats what I said. Thats my opinion!!!!
Just to let you know how well I think of comptech....McLaren feels the same: http://www.comptechusa.com/cgi-bin/forum/topic.cgi?forum=50&topic=5

Pradamuimui

10-09-2002, 04:25 PM

Originally posted by 02SilverSiHB

I'm not going to sit here and do this internet fighting crap with you. I never said they are the same quality. Did I!? No, I didn't. If you want the comptech, get it. I could care less. We're just stating facts. How will I know it's the right size? I'll measure it....it's not rocket science. Yes, I will run my car on the dyno if I want. Money wise, I can't see you saying you don't have the cash flow if you paid over 600 for an exhaust. Getting a dyno number is one thing....tuning with a dyno is extra money....I don't plan on them tuning my i/h/e setup...what could they tune...my throttle cable :rolleyes: I may never get a mendrel bent piping done, if I can't find a good shop around here....which there are not to many. But I'm not going to spend that much money on comptech, unless I'm more finacially secure. I never said I don't like comptech....you need to read everything before you jump to conclusions....how old are you? Have you not seen the dyno numbers miamijdm posted a while back? I'm not hiring someone off the street. did you know your comptech is mendrel bent to? that's what ssrv6 and I are talking about getting, not crushed bent. Did you think your comptech was made by a magical force of nature? damn man, get a clue!

DAMN...ur a complete idiot!!! Comptech is better then ur piece of crap exhaust that ur gonna buy!! Sorry you dont understand that if you buy quality you get quality. Buy junk you get junk, you cat argue that!! You say that you cant afford the good stuff for ur car, not financially stable? Well maybe you should have thought of that before you bought an Si!! Wanna put junk on a Civic?? Then trade ur Si in and buy a DX, or LX!!

Pradamuimui

10-09-2002, 04:27 PM

Originally posted by 02SilverSiHB

Just to let you know how well I think of comptech....McLaren feels the same: http://www.comptechusa.com/cgi-bin/forum/topic.cgi?forum=50&topic=5

Then WTF are you arguing with me for???? IM CONFUSED??

02SilverSiHB

10-09-2002, 04:33 PM

Originally posted by Pradamuimui

DAMN...ur a complete idiot!!! Comptech is better then ur piece of crap exhaust that ur gonna buy!! Sorry you dont understand that if you buy quality you get quality. Buy junk you get junk, you cat argue that!! You say that you cant afford the good stuff for ur car, not financially stable? Well maybe you should have thought of that before you bought an Si!! Wanna put junk on a Civic?? Then trade ur Si in and buy a DX, or LX!!
wow, did you even read my post? I said comptech is better, no shit! Damn! Here's why my finaces are so fucking great shit head.
I'm enlisted in the Military. My wife was also, but got out to go through what is called ROTC. It's a course that when she is done, she'll be back in the military making 3 times as much as I do. So now I'm the only one with a pay check, paying for a brand new 2404 sq ft. house, two cars, sending money to her family in Peru (because it's a third world country where people don't have it as good as we do), paying for electric, water, food, gas, going out (yeah, we do other things besides buying shit for our cars), my college education, her college education (paying for hers right now because ROTC has delayed funds....fiscal year right now) which cost a grand an hour when shes taking 12hours of school. So when she's done and making more money, I'll get what ever the hell I want. It seems your really insecure about yourself. You can't stand that not everyone agrees with you. And think about what before I buy the Si? It's a cheap freakin car, this isn't expensive. Did you parents buy you one! :D ha! wow you are an idiot!

02SilverSiHB

10-09-2002, 04:34 PM

Originally posted by Pradamuimui

Then WTF are you arguing with me for???? IM CONFUSED??
if you actually read my post you may not be confused. Are you still in highschool? Pay attention little guy! I like comptech. So does everyone else. Some people just don't feel like paying for a name.

02SilverSiHB

10-09-2002, 04:35 PM

Originally posted by Pradamuimui

Then WTF are you arguing with me for???? IM CONFUSED??
ah, you're still 21. it'll be a while till you grow up. it kicks in at about 24.

Pradamuimui

10-09-2002, 04:40 PM

Originally posted by 02SilverSiHB

wow, did you even read my post? I said comptech is better, no shit! Damn! Here's why my finaces are so fucking great shit head.
I'm enlisted in the Military. My wife was also, but got out to go through what is called ROTC. It's a course that when she is done, she'll be back in the military making 3 times as much as I do. So now I'm the only one with a pay check, paying for a brand new 2404 sq ft. house, two cars, sending money to her family in Peru (because it's a third world country where people don't have it as good as we do), paying for electric, water, food, gas, going out (yeah, we do other things besides buying shit for our cars), my college education, her college education (paying for hers right now because ROTC has delayed funds....fiscal year right now) which cost a grand an hour when shes taking 12hours of school. So when she's done and making more money, I'll get what ever the hell I want. It seems your really insecure about yourself. You can't stand that not everyone agrees with you. And think about what before I buy the Si? It's a cheap freakin car, this isn't expensive. Did you parents buy you one! :D ha! wow you are an idiot!

No my parents didnt buy me this car...I bought it for myself working my ass off at shit head jobs so I could have a nice car. My first car was a 1996 Honda Civic Ex that I bought myself when I was 18 years old...so my parents dont give me shit!! Secondly Im in College as well but I have a Pell Grant that helps with my school funding because my parents wont help me. Third, I live by myself as well with a friend, in wich we pay our OWN rent and utilities. Im in school full-time, and I work over 30hrs a week...so KISS MY ASS. However I applaud you and your wife for ur service to this great country, I have great respect for you in that since. But WTF are you arguing with me for if you 2 think that Comptech is good stuff??

02SilverSiHB

10-09-2002, 04:44 PM

Originally posted by Pradamuimui

No my parents didnt buy me this car...I bought it for myself working my ass off at shit head jobs so I could have a nice car. My first car was a 1996 Honda Civic Ex that I bought myself when I was 18 years old...so my parents dont give me shit!! Secondly Im in College as well but I have a Pell Grant that helps with my school funding because my parents wont help me. Third, I ive by myself as well with a friend, in wich we pay our OWN rent and utilities. Im in school full-time, and I work over 30hrs a week...so KISS MY ASS. However I applaud you and your wife for ur service to this great country, I have great respect for you in that since. But WTF are you arguing with me for if you 2 think that Comptech is goog stuff??
HAHAHAAHAAHHA! that's my point. I am not arguing with you. I just mearly said that the custom exhaust will give the same amount of power. yes, it won't be the same quality, it may even come apart for all I know, but at the same time it may not. I just started posting about how it gives the same power.....then you started going off on people that felt the same way. It seemed like you were bashing anyone for buying anything else.
Lets just forget it...the internet is known for being confusing like this.

Pradamuimui

10-09-2002, 04:46 PM

IC...my bad, lets drop it...no point in arguing like this!!

02SilverSiHB

10-09-2002, 04:47 PM

Originally posted by Pradamuimui
IC...my bad, lets drop it...no point in arguing like this!!
cool, because I need to type this damn paper for a stupid history class, I wish I had started college sooner :(

Pradamuimui

10-09-2002, 04:50 PM

Originally posted by 02SilverSiHB

cool, because I need to type this damn paper for a stupid history class, I wish I had started college sooner :(

Well at least ur going to College!!! Better now then never

ssvr6

10-09-2002, 06:27 PM

College is overrated, just like comptech.

;)

Steve

02SilverSiHB

10-09-2002, 06:28 PM

Originally posted by ssvr6
College is overrated, just like comptech.

;)

Steve
ah, oh! :D

Pradamuimui

10-09-2002, 06:31 PM

YOU FCKING SMARTASS!!! :p

toiletsquirt

10-09-2002, 07:36 PM

Originally posted by Pradamuimui

No my parents didnt buy me this car...I bought it for myself working my ass off at shit head jobs so I could have a nice car. My first car was a 1996 Honda Civic Ex that I bought myself when I was 18 years old...so my parents dont give me shit!! Secondly Im in College as well but I have a Pell Grant that helps with my school funding because my parents wont help me. Third, I live by myself as well with a friend, in wich we pay our OWN rent and utilities. Im in school full-time, and I work over 30hrs a week...so KISS MY ASS. However I applaud you and your wife for ur service to this great country, I have great respect for you in that since. But WTF are you arguing with me for if you 2 think that Comptech is good stuff??

Prada, we know you're lying. We spy on you every night, well Tuesday through Thursday at least. You live on Twilight Court right? Mwuhahahahahaha. Comptech sucks, haven't you heard their rear sections are made by Dynomax? Also, you need to disengage your VTEC when you install it so you don't.....uh.......throw a code.

Pradamuimui

10-09-2002, 08:10 PM

Originally posted by toiletsquirt

Prada, we know you're lying. We spy on you every night, well Tuesday through Thursday at least. You live on Twilight Court right? Mwuhahahahahaha. Comptech sucks, haven't you heard their rear sections are made by Dynomax? Also, you need to disengage your VTEC when you install it so you don't.....uh.......throw a code.

Toiletsquirt you are a COMPLETE IDIOT!! Disengage Vtec??? RU fucking serious??:rolleyes:

toiletsquirt

10-09-2002, 09:29 PM

Well Prada, what a sophisticated dialect you use. I noticed in your signature you quote that Spoon is the only way to go. I think not. The requisite APC sticker I have adhered to the windshield on my Chevette adds way more hp than those Spoon reservoir "sweat bands" you have. So, in conclusion, I still kicked your ass on County Road 5! Me thinks this board is much better than HAN. Even though I don't own an EP hatch, I still defend them against those idiots who listen to C&D reports. So hello everyone.

Pradamuimui

10-09-2002, 09:57 PM

Originally posted by toiletsquirt
Well Prada, what a sophisticated dialect you use. I noticed in your signature you quote that Spoon is the only way to go. I think not. The requisite APC sticker I have adhered to the windshield on my Chevette adds way more hp than those Spoon reservoir "sweat bands" you have. So, in conclusion, I still kicked your ass on County Road 5! Me thinks this board is much better than HAN. Even though I don't own an EP hatch, I still defend them against those idiots who listen to C&D reports. So hello everyone.

Well you can kiss my rosie red ass!! I do however aggree with you that this site is MUCH BETTER then HondaAcura.net!! There is just WAY TO MANY LOSERS on that site. I cant stand to go there anymore for fear that I may have to beat someones ass!! :D

toiletsquirt

10-10-2002, 09:36 AM

Yeah, HAN gets pretty annoying sometimes with the "My basically stock Ex can keep up with you guys" posts. Hmmmmm, I think not. Sometimes I want to weep for the stupidity of some "immature" Honda drivers (i.e. BlackWidowCivic's reply saying his 95% stock Ex can "keep up" with us and then going on to refuse racing me.)

eg9turbo

10-10-2002, 09:58 AM

Comptech exhaust is gay. They use a Magnaflow muffler and resonator. Why would anyone want to put American crap on their Japanese cars?

ssvr6

10-10-2002, 10:14 AM

American crap? Borla is a DAMN good muffler and I'd put it on ANY car I owned. Made in the good 'ol USA.

American crap...grow up 'boy'.

Steve

silver ep

10-10-2002, 10:25 AM

American crap? Borla is a DAMN good muffler and I'd put it on ANY car I owned. Made in the good 'ol USA.

Damn strait, Borla is VERY well made!

fishboy

10-10-2002, 10:35 AM

i want the apexi N1 now. is this exhaust for sure gonna come out in a couple of months?

eg9turbo

10-10-2002, 10:37 AM

Hold up just a minute.....Was I talking about Borla? Don't put words in my mouth. Now that you're bringing that up, Borla is a shietty exhaust too. You obviously are in to the wrong kind of cars. Go buy a Ford Escort and put that American junk on that. Grow up you damn hill billy....go buy a domestic car.

JDM=nothing you know about
USDM=:confused:

ssvr6

10-10-2002, 11:29 AM

Here's some words right out of your mouth:

Why would anyone want to put American crap on their Japanese cars? That would include Borla wouldn't it?

Take your 12 year old intelligence (or lack there of) and shove it up your ass. I can accept pride in your car, but what you know about JDM could fill a thimble.

Take your 2 posts home...

Steve

eg9turbo

10-10-2002, 12:49 PM

Obviously you are the one with the 12 year old intelligence. I was simply trying to state that american parts on japanese cars are not the type of parts that japanese people in japan put on their cars. Borla is Gay. Simple enough. What kind of professional road race or for that matter, who in their right mind that has anything to do with being JDM put that kind of crap on their cars. Borla is used in the USA on Domestic cars! It was made in the USA for cars made in the USA. A Honda is japanese. Therefore Japanese parts belong on japanese cars. HKS, Greddy, Blitz, Spoon, Mugen, Cusco, GAB, Border, Do-luck, etc. are JDM parts that belong on JDM cars. Obviously JDM is foreign to your puny brain the size of a damn baby crocodile. Go ahead and put that crap on your car and go back to the swamp you came from in that sorry ass state called Florida. WEST COAST is where its at. Florida is gay. Sorry to say but you are also gay to.

Take your 532 posts and shut the fukk up. You obviously spend too much time on the internet. Why don't you get off your ass and take your car to the open track, or should I say, to the drag race track since thats your american past time. You don't know a damn thing about JDM probably thinking it stands for Just Doing More.

Besides, your EP will get slaughtered by my EG.

Stick to your Volkswagen because you obviously aren't going anywhere big with your Honda.

Borla = garbage

My98nsx

10-10-2002, 02:08 PM

Too many youngbloods with a whole lot of testosterone around here!

C'mon guys, chill...different strokes you know.

About Borla....yes it's a good product, had it on a Z/28 and a 98 Vette. It was a fine exhaust, with a million mile warranty!
I happen to know a couple of guys with Ferraris who put them on their cars. It happens to be a favorite for Ferrari restorers here in the States, among Tifosi. Good enough for them, good enough for me.

One more thing, what do we do about Hondas built outside Japan? American Hondas deserve American products! ;)

hms

eg9turbo

10-10-2002, 02:18 PM

Si's are made in Europe. American made Hondas have Honda parts which are made in Japan. They are only assembled here. American parts such as APC are for Rice Boys. You guys obviously fit into that category. You might as well put chrome rims and neon undercarriage lighting on your cars. :D

eg9turbo

10-10-2002, 04:57 PM

Originally posted by My98nsx
About Borla....yes it's a good product, had it on a Z/28 and a 98 Vette. It was a fine exhaust, with a million mile warranty!
I happen to know a couple of guys with Ferraris who put them on their cars. It happens to be a favorite for Ferrari restorers here in the States, among Tifosi. Good enough for them, good enough for me.

hms

I rest my case. You have CHEVYS with Borla exhaust. Anybody that puts a Borla exhaust on a Honda is GAY. Face the facts.

fishboy

10-10-2002, 05:27 PM

Originally posted by eg9turbo

I rest my case. You have CHEVYS with Borla exhaust. Anybody that puts a Borla exhaust on a Honda is GAY. Face the facts.

are you the type that just wears nike shoes when you wear nike sweat pants? well if you are just add on a nike shirt, nike jacket, nike sweatbands and a nike head band and what do you have? ..... i fucking dork. anyways that has nothing to do with what you are saying i just thought it was funny in my head. so when is the n1 coming out for our car? do i have to worry about it hanging low? i already scrape with my stock exhaust.:confused:

02SilverSiHB

10-10-2002, 05:32 PM

damn, it's amazing how much we fight here :)
like it or don't like it, no one can change anothers mind. Screw it, it's really not worth it.

ssvr6

10-10-2002, 07:19 PM

This prick is here just to start shit. He doesn't own an EP Si. He's just a troll.

Steve

K20ACTR

10-10-2002, 07:19 PM

Whenever I wear a pair of Nikes I try to wear some Nike sweatpants with them. You can't wear some adidas shoes and some nike sweatpants, its against the fashion law.

02SilverSiHB

10-10-2002, 07:21 PM

Originally posted by K20ACTR
Whenever I wear a pair of Nikes I try to wear some Nike sweatpants with them. You can't wear some adidas shoes and some nike sweatpants, its against the fashion law.
arrest me. I wear addidas shoes with some nike work out pants and a reebok tank top :D

K20ACTR

10-10-2002, 07:26 PM

Well shit, i'm gonna have to take you in for questioning on your sense of fashion. :D I don't really give a damn, I don't think someone is stupid for wearing all Nike or all adidas. I think this post should be shut down because it seems to be a lot of non sense rambling now.

02SilverSiHB

10-10-2002, 07:27 PM

Originally posted by K20ACTR
Well shit, i'm gonna have to take you in for questioning on your sense of fashion. :D I don't really give a damn, I don't think someone is stupid for wearing all Nike or all adidas. I think this post should be shut down because it seems to be a lot of non sense rambling now.
:D I know, we're rambling as we type :D

fishboy

10-10-2002, 09:30 PM

WILL SOMEBODY ANSWER ME ABOUT THE APEXI N1?

K20ACTR

10-10-2002, 09:31 PM

Release should be about 4-6 weeks.

fishboy

10-10-2002, 09:42 PM

cool thanks.:D

My98nsx

10-10-2002, 09:43 PM

**************I rest my case. You have CHEVYS with Borla exhaust. Anybody that puts a Borla exhaust on a Honda is GAY. Face the facts.**************

You seem to have missed the part about Ferrari. I was merely presenting an argument of fact, and you neglected the point.
I'm sorry you missed it. I thought that this was a message forum to share information with others about available enhancements for the Si. As for someone being GAY if they Borla a Honda, well I am not the one to ask nor do I care. As I am probably old enough to be your father, I will discontinue to trade inane barbs with you.
All the others here were polite in sharing information. There were some good points of view. I'm sorry it had to come down to this level.
Have a wonderful day!

hms

Pradamuimui

10-11-2002, 12:32 AM

This thread is still going?? HOLY SHIT!!

eg9turbo

10-11-2002, 08:20 AM

Quit your whining. You people don't have the mental capacity to realize that you get what you pay for. JDM parts are intended for Japanese cars. Go ahead and use your American parts on your Japanese cars because it doesn't matter anyways ( No sense in trying to argue with ricers ). You're old enough to be my father, so why don't you mind your own business and act your age. You're 50 years old and own a Civic Si. When I'm 50 I will own a Lexus or a Mercedes. You are obviously not in the payscale range to afford something like that, but instead you have to buy a $17,000 kiddy car. Face it, you're in a midlife crisis. Know your role and shut your mouth.

SSRV6- I don't have anything left to say to you. Talking to you is like trying to talk to a 6 year old. Your mental is weak and you're really a dork in real life that has a VW Passat and a Civic. You people are just plain stupid and know jack shiet about how a REAL Honda is supposed to be. You probably think Heel-to-Toe is a dance move and oversteer is putting your hand OVER the wheel. Like I said before....Take your 540 posts and SHUT UP!

My98nsx

10-11-2002, 08:59 AM

Originally posted by eg9turbo
Quit your whining. You people don't have the mental capacity to realize that you get what you pay for. JDM parts are intended for Japanese cars. Go ahead and use your American parts on your Japanese cars because it doesn't matter anyways ( No sense in trying to argue with ricers ). You're old enough to be my father, so why don't you mind your own business and act your age. You're 50 years old and own a Civic Si. When I'm 50 I will own a Lexus or a Mercedes. You are obviously not in the payscale range to afford something like that, but instead you have to buy a $17,000 kiddy car. Face it, you're in a midlife crisis. Know your role and shut your mouth.

SSRV6- I don't have anything left to say to you. Talking to you is like trying to talk to a 6 year old. Your mental is weak and you're really a dork in real life that has a VW Passat and a Civic. You people are just plain stupid and know jack shiet about how a REAL Honda is supposed to be. You probably think Heel-to-Toe is a dance move and oversteer is putting your hand OVER the wheel. Like I said before....Take your 540 posts and SHUT UP!

Boy you missed the point meat! First af all I'm 40, second of all the Si was a gift from me to my son , whose 15 1/2(check other posts around this forum) he gets his license in a couple of months.
I own, in no particilar order:

1998 NSX-T red with camel interior (comptech air,header,exhaust)
2001 BMW M3 cabriolet silver/black
2001 M-Benz ML430 Blk/Blk

It wasn't whining. When there are discussions that differ, people present opinions and facts, not bash each other. You can ask anyone here who has seen my limited posts that my son and I are here for the information that a site like this can provide.

I don't think my midlife crisis is here yet. I own my own swimsuit mfg company in L.A., with about 100 employees....I think my payscale is there.

I shouldn't qualify your response, but I felt compelled, because evidently you had me mixed up.

Like I said, I use this forum, as well as M3forum.com, and the NSXCA.org to gather valuable information on my cars. If this touches a nerve sorry.

hms

ssvr6

10-11-2002, 09:14 AM

Originally posted by eg9turbo

SSRV6- I don't have anything left to say to you. Talking to you is like trying to talk to a 6 year old. Your mental is weak and you're really a dork in real life that has a VW Passat and a Civic. You people are just plain stupid and know jack shiet about how a REAL Honda is supposed to be. You probably think Heel-to-Toe is a dance move and oversteer is putting your hand OVER the wheel. Like I said before....Take your 540 posts and SHUT UP!

**Yawnnnn.....**

Are you through? Good.

Nice chatting with you....troll. And I'm very familiar with heel toe, it's how much of my foot I could fit up your ass. (From my heel to my toe.)

Thanks for stopping by.

Steve

eg9turbo

10-11-2002, 09:57 AM

*sob**sob*

Are you guys done crying yet?

SSRV6- you're just a dork and you know it too. get off the computer and go get some pussy. wait, i forgot. you're a fag so thats out of the question. go get some more H20 damn water boy!! you're probably so uptight because everytime you look in the mirror, you realize that you are a true ricer. Stick to your shietty Volkswagens and go screw yourself.

NSX- if information is what you want, then you're in the wrong place. getting information from all of these idiots is only going to give you problems in the long run. you don't see my point so its basically a lost cause to try and talk to you. whatever.

yomamaInMySi

10-11-2002, 10:29 AM

OWNED!:D

ssvr6

10-11-2002, 10:36 AM

You keep using the word gay so much, you really must be infatuated with cock. I've never met someone online who spoke about fags and gays as much as you.

Do you stay at home, dressed in your sisters underwear, wishing your friends would understand? Is it hard on you having to masturbate to pictures of David Hasslehof since you can't come out of the closet without your dad wanting to kill you and kick you out. (Since you obviously live at home.)

I'm married, I have a 3 year old and another on the way. I'm as straight as they come. I'm also accepting and understanding. If you need a shoulder to cry on, I might be able to suggest some good counciling to help you.

In the mean time, go back to www.iluvcox.com and leave this site for enthusiast discussions.

Steve

yomamaInMySi

10-11-2002, 10:38 AM

Originally posted by eg9turbo
Obviously you are the one with the 12 year old intelligence. I was simply trying to state that american parts on japanese cars are not the type of parts that japanese people in japan put on their cars. Borla is Gay. Simple enough. What kind of professional road race or for that matter, who in their right mind that has anything to do with being JDM put that kind of crap on their cars. Borla is used in the USA on Domestic cars! It was made in the USA for cars made in the USA. A Honda is japanese. Therefore Japanese parts belong on japanese cars. HKS, Greddy, Blitz, Spoon, Mugen, Cusco, GAB, Border, Do-luck, etc. are JDM parts that belong on JDM cars. Obviously JDM is foreign to your puny brain the size of a damn baby crocodile. Go ahead and put that crap on your car and go back to the swamp you came from in that sorry ass state called Florida. WEST COAST is where its at. Florida is gay. Sorry to say but you are also gay to.

Take your 532 posts and shut the fukk up. You obviously spend too much time on the internet. Why don't you get off your ass and take your car to the open track, or should I say, to the drag race track since thats your american past time. You don't know a damn thing about JDM probably thinking it stands for Just Doing More.

Besides, your EP will get slaughtered by my EG.

Stick to your Volkswagen because you obviously aren't going anywhere big with your Honda.

Borla = garbage

Actually, most of the so called japanese stuff that you just mentioned HKS etc aren't even made in Japan, they're probably made in china, malasya or some other country in the south pacific. You see, these companies couldn't afford Japanese labor, there for they would have to take their design and license rights to other countries and get the parts made in a sweat shop.

By the way I used to have a 1990 M3 and I had a borla exhaust on it. It worked great, I loved it. Yes a 1990 M3, german car with a american exhaust.

ssvr6

10-11-2002, 10:44 AM

3/4 of the aftermarket exhausts on MK3 GTI VR6's use a Borla exhaust from Techtonics Tuning. (www.tttuning.com)

I had it on my 95 Ranger Splash (Domestic true, great exhaust none the less).

Steve

eg9turbo

10-11-2002, 11:07 AM

I rest my case...

Borla does not belong on a Honda.

Its a waste of my time talking to you fools. I don't care what you think is "cool" and whats not. You need to act your age and stop whining. Plain and simple. Get a life.

yomamaInMySi

10-11-2002, 11:08 AM

OK:o

My98nsx

10-11-2002, 11:15 AM

Originally posted by eg9turbo
*sob**sob*

Are you guys done crying yet?

SSRV6- you're just a dork and you know it too. get off the computer and go get some pussy. wait, i forgot. you're a fag so thats out of the question. go get some more H20 damn water boy!! you're probably so uptight because everytime you look in the mirror, you realize that you are a true ricer. Stick to your shietty Volkswagens and go screw yourself.

NSX- if information is what you want, then you're in the wrong place. getting information from all of these idiots is only going to give you problems in the long run. you don't see my point so its basically a lost cause to try and talk to you. whatever.

Little man, you are the lost cause, you, have not seen my points.

Everytime you said something about me, I responded with a fact that contradicted yours. Yet you retort with childish behavior.

If you want to have a heated discussion about anything, without resorting to lowering the level of intellect, go for it, I'm with you.

And one more thing, I don't consider the guys here idiots. This IS a place for information, good or bad, that's how informed decisions are made.

I happen to be a car buff. It doesn't matter where they come from, you won't ever see me post negativity about a brand. I hope you have been kidding just to stir the pot, if not, well.....

I have never insulted you, so please refrain from doing it to me.

Regards,

hms

motomoron

10-11-2002, 11:53 AM

If you whining sissies care to take a deep breath and adjourn to Comptech's website, there's a nice dyno chart illustrating their header and full exhaust system's gains. 11 hp peak, with pretty substantial torque #s as well. Also one of the rice rags had an article on RSX mods, which should be pretty close to EP3 mods, and they saw 2 hp from the header, about 5 from the full system, and like 17 from a CAI. All DC sports stuff...Having been in the high end bicycle and motorcycle business, I'm well versed in the ability of certain well crafted parts to captivate the minds and wallets of enthusiasts. I have a hand built exhaust system on my Austin Healy Sprite Ex-race car, which I probably have 40 hours of developement time invested in, and which make good power, sounds great, and cost maybe $ 150 for the materials. For my EP3, at this point, I'm leaning toward comptech, since it's beautifully made, is suported by actual research, and is a product with absolutely NO RICE CRED. Koni, ground control... I'm probably getting Centerline RPM wheels because (1) they weigh 13.5 lbs in 17" and (2) I won't see them on some neon kitted-flourescent dual wiper equipped-illuminated 6" exhaust tipped DX coupe with an automatic transmission. I'll buy whatever the fuck I want, and spend whatever I want, and I'll do it for no reason other than the fact that it's my car, and it makes me happy. I had to make every piece of my '80 Civic in '80. They didn't even have wheels then. So consider your self lucky, children. and stop bickering.

nikkotyper

10-11-2002, 11:56 AM

Originally posted by My98nsx

This IS a place for information, good or bad, that's how informed decisions are made.

I agree. Barely any of us are mechanics or automotive experts. Nevertheless, the goal of an online forum is free exchange of opinions and first hand experiences.

Furthermore, I think that some of us do not understand the repercussions of trying to forcibly persuade someone else of their viewpoint.
It is simple. That's how we end up having threads like this.

yomamaInMySi

10-11-2002, 11:58 AM

I agree and disagree with every body. DTH please lock it.

eg9turbo

10-11-2002, 12:51 PM

There was no research made in the EP exhaust from Comptech. Research and development is not just a dyno sheet comparison between that and stock. Comptech copys other people's designs and uses Magnaflow mufflers and resonators. The exhaust tip looks like it belongs in the 90's. The only thing good about that exhaust is the welding and it being stainless. The ice box is a copy of the Mugen intake system. The sway bar tie bar for the EP clunks and makes noises. I know all this because Comptech is right down the street from where I live. Have any of you ever been to Comptech? You don't know what the fukk you're talking about and need to be quiet unless you have some physical proof of the nonsense you are talking about.

dohcivtec02

10-11-2002, 11:07 PM

The price you pay for exhaust is good considering i paid $510 for a complete Yoshimura exhuast for my Yamaha Raptor

LordKoo

10-13-2002, 05:26 AM

SSVR6, you sound like you know a lot. But you are a monkey too. I read your signature you have a Volkswagen! What the heck, you said that BMWs spent time in the workshop, isn't Volkswagen even worst?

To me Volkswagen is a Japanized German car, not worthy of German name.

Why comptech exhaust cost so much? Read, "Stainless Steel"!!!

Of course your average performance shop can make it cheaper but in stainless steel? Who are you kidding???

To me volkswagen is a joke... Even their tuning also... All the good stuffs from Volkswagen came from Audi. What is there to compare anyway?

ssvr6

10-13-2002, 06:53 AM

Dipshit....Volkswagen and Audi are the same company....

VAG (Volkswagen Audi Gruppe). My 98 GTi VR6 had the Audi rings on MOST of the components on the car. From the windows to under the hood.

Second, I've owned 3 dubs and haven't had any problems (READ: Not one). My point was even if you buy a $45k car, it doesn't mean it's the best. I'm sure my $17k Honda will run trouble free after your average 330ci owner has been back to the stealership 6+ times.

High Cost does not always equal quality and performance.

Third, you can have an exhaust custom made from stainless. It's not like Comptech has the market on stainless steel and they're the only ones that have their exhausts made from it. And yes, your average performance shop can make a cheaper exhaust out of stainless. Do some research before you make blanket statements.

Steve

Gibhunter

10-13-2002, 07:20 AM

Originally posted by LordKoo
To me Volkswagen is a Japanized German car, not worthy of German name.

WTF is a Japanized german car? From what I can see, Honda is trying to emulate VW Passat with their new Accord. If you're trying to say that VW is trying to copy Si with their GTi, then I have another thing coming for you. VW Golf GTi was created BEFORE the first Si was. VW is also a much older company than Honda is. If anything, Honda is trying to be more like Volkswagen and not vice versa. The only advantage Honda may have over VW is the fact that Honda is PERCEIVED as a more reliable car manufacturer. But in this day, most new imported cars will last 200,000 miles if maintained properly.

DrPimpSiR

10-13-2002, 07:36 AM

Originally posted by LordKoo

Why comptech exhaust cost so much?

It's because of their name.

02SilverSiHB

10-13-2002, 09:55 AM

okay, I need to take my self off the mailing list for this damn thread

ssvr6

10-13-2002, 02:27 PM

Originally posted by 02SilverSiHB
okay, I need to take my self off the mailing list for this damn thread

LOL!

Steve

ehhh my molding

10-14-2002, 08:25 AM

Originally posted by DrPimpSiR

It's because of their name.

maybe it has something to to with the research and development they put into it. or the materials. saying comptech costs alot because of there name is not accurate. most other production exhaust companies are good brands too. you don't think their pricing is because of their name?
And, yes you could have some muffler shop make you a cheaper exhaust. hey they could make you a cheaper intake also. and you could just make your own bodykit! then you wouldn't be out any funds. or you could just buy an exhaust from some company that researched it, went through all sorts of fitment tests and released a product they could stand behind. why not just front the extra money and have a nice exhaust?

ssvr6

10-14-2002, 09:20 AM

Originally posted by ehhh my molding

maybe it has something to to with the research and development they put into it. or the materials. saying comptech costs alot because of there name is not accurate. most other production exhaust companies are good brands too. you don't think their pricing is because of their name?
And, yes you could have some muffler shop make you a cheaper exhaust. hey they could make you a cheaper intake also. and you could just make your own bodykit! then you wouldn't be out any funds. or you could just buy an exhaust from some company that researched it, went through all sorts of fitment tests and released a product they could stand behind. why not just front the extra money and have a nice exhaust?

This is my point and I'll say it only one more time. There are few things that I'll buy where name and quality are the first and foremost. I/H/E are not one of them. They're a bunch of pipes for Christ's sake!

If and when I'm ready for engine work, I'll spend NOTHING but top dollar on my car. The same for my suspension. I don't want to ride on cheap crap. Money is no object when it comes to that.

IHE however is easy, I'm sorry, it is. So, I get what works, what's cheapest, and easy to get. It's all hidden so it doesn't need to be pretty or flashy. (I hate that crap anyway.)

Steve

ehhh my molding

10-14-2002, 09:24 AM

Originally posted by ssvr6

This is my point and I'll say it only one more time. There are few things that I'll buy where name and quality are the first and foremost. I/H/E are not one of them. They're a bunch of pipes for Christ's sake!

If and when I'm ready for engine work, I'll spend NOTHING but top dollar on my car. The same for my suspension. I don't want to ride on cheap crap. Money is no object when it comes to that.

IHE however is easy, I'm sorry, it is. So, I get what works, what's cheapest, and easy to get. It's all hidden so it doesn't need to be pretty or flashy. (I hate that crap anyway.)

Steve

thats cool that quality isn't important when purchasing and intake exhaust or headers. i don't see why you don't just carry that theme over into the rest of your car. if your so willing to spend top dollar on the rest of your car, why not on those items? are you even gonna build a motor?

ssvr6

10-14-2002, 09:31 AM

Let me be more specific. I'm not dropping $400+ on a cat back so I can pay for their R&D, marketing, etc.. When I can pay $150 for THE SAME FUCKING THING! That's my point. I don't need some bling, bling fart pipe, the stock muffler is fine. I don't need a polished stainless pipe either. As for quality, the shop I'm going to does nothing but the best so I know what I'm getting is quality. I'm not going to Meineke for a freaking crush bent (while I have cotemplated it).

As for the intake, I have an Injen CAI. Good for me and most others. I don't need the $400 Comptech unit. I'm not scared of taking on a puddle and my CAI is fine. The HP header is also fine. Good unit, from what I can see of it, well built as well.

Just because it's $200 shipped it's not quality. I didn't know that $330+ meant I'm getting the best. :rolleyes:

Steve

ehhh my molding

10-14-2002, 09:47 AM

Originally posted by ssvr6
Let me be more specific. I'm not dropping $400+ on a cat back so I can pay for their R&D, marketing, etc.. When I can pay $150 for THE SAME FUCKING THING! That's my point. I don't need some bling, bling fart pipe, the stock muffler is fine. I don't need a polished stainless pipe either. As for quality, the shop I'm going to does nothing but the best so I know what I'm getting is quality. I'm not going to Meineke for a freaking crush bent (while I have cotemplated it).

As for the intake, I have an Injen CAI. Good for me and most others. I don't need the $400 Comptech unit. I'm not scared of taking on a puddle and my CAI is fine. The HP header is also fine. Good unit, from what I can see of it, well built as well.

Just because it's $200 shipped it's not quality. I didn't know that $330+ meant I'm getting the best. :rolleyes:

Steve

bling bling fartpipe....? you are a retard.
i don't give a fuck what you run...but if you are saving money so you can "spend nothing but top dollar" on your engine. then you'd better do that to justify the shitty parts on the rest of your car.

LordKoo

10-14-2002, 10:19 AM

Steve,
do your homework again... Volkswagen brought Audi, period.

No matter what, you are comparing apples and oranges, not the same league. Why don't you try buying that POS Passat W8 and then compare against the same price BMW?

A friend of mine works as technician for Volkswagen and Audi told me that those cars are nothing but problems. Your word versus his.

I am sure you brought a Honda has a safeguard in case your passat breaks or visit garage.

So far, I have not seen a performance muffler shop that will do stainless steel mandrel piping for cheap. My point is, if comptech will come up with that kit, whereas it is more cost efficient to buy it from them, then do it. If you cannot afford it, take your crap else where buy something cheap without a brand.

cheap do not mean good, brand does not mean good either! It is subjective! Have a banana! :confused:

ssvr6

10-14-2002, 10:19 AM

bling bling fartpipe....? you are a retard.
i don't give a fuck what you run...but if you are saving money so you can "spend nothing but top dollar" on your engine. then you'd better do that to justify the shitty parts on the rest of your car.

Right, I forgot that Injen and HP are shit. I also forgot that custom mandrel bent piping (like the stuff profesional racers use) is shit too. I'm sure that my Honda Muffler is a steaming pile of shit while I'm at it.

Wow, great insight Einstein.

Steve

ssvr6

10-14-2002, 10:23 AM

Originally posted by LordKoo
Steve,
do your homework again... Volkswagen brought Audi, period.

No matter what, you are comparing apples and oranges, not the same league. Why don't you try buying that POS Passat W8 and then compare against the same price BMW?

A friend of mine works as technician for Volkswagen and Audi told me that those cars are nothing but problems. Your word versus his.

I am sure you brought a Honda has a safeguard in case your passat breaks or visit garage.

So far, I have not seen a performance muffler shop that will do stainless steel mandrel piping for cheap. My point is, if comptech will come up with that kit, whereas it is more cost efficient to buy it from them, then do it. If you cannot afford it, take your crap else where buy something cheap without a brand.

cheap do not mean good, brand does not mean good either! It is subjective! Have a banana! :confused:

I'm sure you're a know it all when it comes to VW's and Audis. You're right, I should get rid of my Passat now while it works so I can buy a car with a personality...like the Accord. :confused:

I bought a Honda because I liked the shifter, the seats, and it was cheap. Other wise I would have bought a 24v GTi VR6. Don't get me wrong, I love my Si, but I love dubs too.

Oh yeah, and I'm sure the W8 sucks compared to most BMWs. Hell, I'd take a BMW over a Passat. What's your point?

The point is, I'm doing what I want, you do what you want, and we can both not give a shit what anyone's doing? What do ya say?

Steve