Anybody running 225/45-17s?

[bobdobbs]

I've got a nearly-new set of Falken Azenis in my garage collecting dust, giving me a guilty stare for not using them. Only thing is they're 225/45-17. I don't have any 4x100 17-inch rims, but I could buy a set. Does anybody else have this size on their car? I know it's about 3% larger than stock, but my car could use some bigger tires (currently 205/55-15).

If you've got this size on your car, can you post a pic?

Thanks!

[03silverEP]

that's the HFP tire size, they should fit

[Low Rider]

Originally posted by 03silverEP
that's the HFP tire size, they should fit

Oh come on...!!! :rolleyes: There's no way that the HFP tire size for an EP3 is 225/45/17. There is a navy blue BMW M3 sitting outside my office window with 225/45/17's on it. Are you trying to tell me that the OEM tire for the EP3 is the same as the M3? Now I've heard everything!!! :p

[toda_power]

Originally posted by 03silverEP
that's the HFP tire size, they should fit

he's right...

[anjapower]

eg_nezay has that exact size on his EP3...it's the silver EP3 with gunmetal Work wheels. myeverlovinsir has 235/40/17s i believe.

[Si3]

Im runnin' that size in Bridgestone Potenza, works great.

check "member's rides" for pics.

-aj-

[YooShin]

Originally posted by Low Rider
Oh come on...!!! :rolleyes: There's no way that the HFP tire size for an EP3 is 225/45/17. There is a navy blue BMW M3 sitting outside my office window with 225/45/17's on it. Are you trying to tell me that the OEM tire for the EP3 is the same as the M3? Now I've heard everything!!! :p

Yep. FP has 225/45 on 17s but the wheel width is 7" and the offset is 40. The M3 (E36 generation) sports 235 (245/40 on some 97-98)on a 17x7.5" wheel w/ 33mm offset. Huge difference. If your talking about the new M3s (E46), I believe those are 245s on a 18 (19s are an option) with a 8.5 width and a 30mm offset. All from the top of my head so someone please verify. Think about it this way: The RSX uses the same wheel wells and look how much room they have with there A spec kit's 225/45 17. Just make sure you get your odo, and maybe ABS, recalibrated and you'll be fine. Oh, allmost forgot..you'll be adding about an 1/2 inch in overall ride hight as well not to mention the additional rotational mass/inertia.

[yomamaInMySi]

Originally posted by YooShin
Yep. FP has 225/45 on 17s but the wheel width is 7" and the offset is 40. The M3 (E36 generation) sports 235 (245/40 on some 97-98)on a 17x7.5" wheel w/ 33mm offset. Huge difference. If your talking about the new M3s (E46), I believe those are 245s on a 18 (19s are an option) with a 8.5 width and a 30mm offset. All from the top of my head so someone please verify. Think about it this way: The RSX uses the same wheel wells and look how much room they have with there A spec kit's 225/45 17. Just make sure you get your odo, and maybe ABS, recalibrated and you'll be fine. Oh, allmost forgot..you'll be adding about an 1/2 inch in overall ride hight as well not to mention the additional rotational mass/inertia.

Sorry to burst every one's bubble, but according to the Honda site, the HFP tires are 215 not 225.

http://www.hondacars.com/models/hfp.asp?ModelName=Civic+Si

But that being said, you can put 225 on the car.

[esmith13]

surfsi has Azenis on in 225/45/17. If he turns the wheel to lock, it BARELY grazes the inside wall. No big deal - you only turn your wheel to lock when your u-turning or parking. Both of which you typically do at 5MPH or slower...

That leads me to believe, however, a tire in that size with built in "rim protector" sidewalls would rub a bit more... You know those ones that the side wall buldges out to prevent you from scuffing your rim on a curb?

Eric

[yomamaInMySi]

Originally posted by Low Rider
Oh come on...!!! :rolleyes: There's no way that the HFP tire size for an EP3 is 225/45/17. There is a navy blue BMW M3 sitting outside my office window with 225/45/17's on it. Are you trying to tell me that the OEM tire for the EP3 is the same as the M3? Now I've heard everything!!! :p

95 M3 235 all the way around with 17x7.5 or 17x8, can't remember. 96 M3 and on the wheels were staggered 17x8.5 on the rear and 17x8 or 17x7.5 on the front, with 225 on the front and 245 on the rear. New M3 has 18 and they run some fat tire on the rear (can't remember the exact size, but the wheels are staggered on the rear. Some new M3 come with 19.

[xlr8]

the kingmotorsports/mugen ep is running 225/45/17 so3 bridgestones

[yomamaInMySi]

Originally posted by xlr8
the kingmotorsports/mugen ep is running 225/45/17 so3 bridgestones

Yes, the only thing is that I think they put the 5 lugs conversion, which pushes the offset down a little, neaning the wheels stick out a tad.

To be on the safe side I would go with 215, but that's just I. There's a guy here with a wilwood brake kit that's running 235 with 17.

[Low Rider]

OK... sorry!!! The M3 out front has winter tires on it so they are definetely smaller than OEM high performance summer. Nevertheless, there is still no way that Honda Factory Performance is recommending a 225/45/17 tire on a North American EP3.

I could be wrong but I'm kinda doubting that Honda would make that rec.

;)

[bobdobbs]

Originally posted by Si3
Im runnin' that size in Bridgestone Potenza, works great.

check "member's rides" for pics.

-aj-
Your member's ride thread has no pics. ???

[Low Rider]

Sorry boys... 215/45/17's!!! ;)

www.hondacars.com/models/hfp.asp?ModelName=Civic+Si

[bobdobbs]

Since we're talking Bimmers, I have to say I'm jealous of their seemingly perfect wheel fitting. How do they get that perfect tuck without rubbing, like this??

http://www.iforged.com/albums/album02/20retro.sized.jpg

[sirdee]

i'm running on 214/40/17. I compared the oem wheel and tire height to the new rims and the 17s were just a bit shorter than the oem wheels. like maybe 5 mm or so.

[bobdobbs]

Originally posted by yomamaInMySi
The new M3s are overrated IMO. ...
:rolleyes: Come on, stay on-topic. This isn't a debate about whether BMWs are good cars or Asian/European reliability. We're talking about rim/tire size and what fits in our wheel wells. Jeezus...

[yomamaInMySi]

Originally posted by bobdobbs
:rolleyes: Come on, stay on-topic. This isn't a debate about whether BMWs are good cars or Asian/European reliability. We're talking about rim/tire size and what fits in our wheel wells. Jeezus...

Oh I'm sorry, I did not know that we were living in Cuba. You must be able to say something about BMW and post pics and I am not. My apologies your dickness.:rolleyes:

[yomamaInMySi]

Originally posted by bobdobbs
:rolleyes: Come on, stay on-topic. This isn't a debate about whether BMWs are good cars or Asian/European reliability. We're talking about rim/tire size and what fits in our wheel wells. Jeezus...

There, I deleted. That should make your balls feel warmer.

[bobdobbs]

Originally posted by yomamaInMySi
Oh I'm sorry, I did not know that we were living in Cuba. You must be able to say something about BMW and post pics and I am not. My apologies you dickness.:rolleyes:
My post, asshole, was to show TIRE GAP on a BMW. This thread is about TIRE FITMENT. I didn't ask for your all-important OPINION on whether BMWs are as reliable as Asian cars.

Try to pay attention, okay?

[yomamaInMySi]

Originally posted by bobdobbs
My post, asshole, was to show TIRE GAP on a BMW. This thread is about TIRE FITMENT. I didn't ask for your all-important OPINION on whether BMWs are as reliable as Asian cars.

Try to pay attention, okay?

OK Fuck Face.

[bobdobbs]

Originally posted by yomamaInMySi
OK Fuck Face.
Wow, did you come up with that yourself? I've never heard that one before! You're clever!:rolleyes:

[yomamaInMySi]

Originally posted by bobdobbs
Wow, did you come up with that yourself? I've never heard that one before! You're clever!:rolleyes:

Stay on topic Bob, tire fitment.

[bobdobbs]

Originally posted by yomamaInMySi
Stay on topic Bob, tire fit.
Will a 225/45-17 tire fit up your ass? I'm sure you've tried.

[David K.]

I'm running a 225/40/16 currently. The width should not be a problem, as I have plenty of room, though your 17" is an inch larger. myeverlovin is running a 235/40/17 with no problems that I know of. Your 45 aspect ratio is slightly taller, too. I'd say go for it, that's a nice fat tire size to tuck under the ep; should look real mean.

[yomamaInMySi]

Originally posted by bobdobbs
Will a 225/45-17 tire fit up your ass? I'm sure you've tried.

Yes, I did tried a 225 up my EP's ass and it fit fine, but I decided to stay with the 215.:cool:

[johnkimble]

yep, hfp car here at the dealership and its on 215/45/17's. when i get new tires i'm going to be sure to put on 225/50/16 ;)

Originally posted by Low Rider
Sorry boys... 215/45/17's!!! ;)

www.hondacars.com/models/hfp.asp?ModelName=Civic+Si

[bobdobbs]

Originally posted by johnkimble
when i get new tires i'm going to be sure to put on 225/50/16 ;)
When will that happen? Those are nearly the same size as 225/45-17, so I'd be interested in seeing a pic.

[bobdobbs]

Originally posted by yomamaInMySi
Yes, I did tried a 225 up my EP's ass and it fit fine, but I decided to stay with the 215.:cool:
Alright, man, you win. :*

[johnkimble]

mid april :D onto volk gram lights stuffed under mugen suspension

[yomamaInMySi]

Originally posted by bobdobbs
Alright, man, you win. :*

:D

[Low Rider]

Originally posted by bobdobbs
Since we're talking Bimmers, I have to say I'm jealous of their seemingly perfect wheel fitting. How do they get that perfect tuck without rubbing, like this??

http://www.iforged.com/albums/album02/20retro.sized.jpg

These rims make an otherwise beautiful car look idiotic! :rolleyes:

[myeverlovinsir]

Yes I am running the 235/40/17 and not a problem. Offset is +42 and is near flush with the wheel wells. I ran the 225/45/17's with +38 for near a year and they were great also.

[bobdobbs]

Originally posted by Low Rider
These rims make an otherwise beautiful car look idiotic! :rolleyes:
Okay, again: The point is the nearly perfect tire fitment. Almost no gap at all, which seems more typical on BMWs than EP3s. This was the first picture I found that demonstrates that. We're not talking rim style, or Asian versus European reliability, the color of the car, or whether people like BMW.

[97 TYPE-R 312]

but remember, AZENIS run a little larger than other same size tires. So the 225 AZENIS would be close to a 235 in other tire applications. But I do plan on running these as track tires once I find a reasonably cheap set of 17" 5 lug wheels that weigh under 19 lbs.

-Victor

[Low Rider]

Originally posted by bobdobbs
Okay, again: The point is the nearly perfect tire fitment. Almost no gap at all, which seems more typical on BMWs than EP3s. This was the first picture I found that demonstrates that. We're not talking rim style, or Asian versus European reliability, the color of the car, or whether people like BMW.

I realize that... sorry! ;) I was just so offended by those rims ya know...!!?? :eek:

[YooShin]

Originally posted by bobdobbs
Will a 225/45-17 tire fit up your ass? I'm sure you've tried.

Let's all try to act like mature adults. You'll loose credability and integrity when you start acting like that. Remember, we are all EP Brothers and Sisters here with a common interest in the performance automobile. Kiss and make up. In the mean time, give those 225s a try and let us know how they work out.

[slave0ne]

Bump!

I am also interested to know if anyone here uses 225/45/R17 tires with their Ep3s.
I am about to by some 17x7 wheels and I am seriously considering getiing this size tire. If there is anyone who uses these tires can you let me know if there is a rubbing issue or not? Can anyone here post pics of their 225/45/R17 tires on their ep3s?

If this is not a good tire size for me then I guess I will go for the 215/45/R17 tire size.

I am going to be putting these on my 2004 ep3 which has the 5 lug wheel set up.

-jason