215/45/R17 or 225/45/R17 anyone?

[slave0ne]

I am about to get a set of 17 inch wheels and tires. I need to know if anyone here has had any rubbing issues with 225/45/R17 tires on their ep3s.

I have a 2004 ep3 with the five lug wheels. Should I worry about the 225/45/R17 rubbing with my car and just get the 215/45/R17 to be on the safe side?

Thanks for any help with this,

-j

[03silverEP]

nope I've got 215'45'17' , and they don't rub, I should have got the 225's it will handle better. the HFP Si comes w/ 225's so it shouldn't be an issue

[Low Rider]

Originally posted by 03silverEP
nope I've got 215'45'17' , and they don't rub, I should have got the 225's it will handle better. the HFP Si comes w/ 225's so it shouldn't be an issue

HFP Si comes with 215's!

[JapanExpress]

HFP Si comes with 215's!

so does the CTR IIRC

[Civicvtec1ps]

No rubbing with Tein s tech springs
215/45/17
offset 43
17x7

[BSEVEER]

Originally posted by JapanExpress
so does the CTR IIRC

04 HFP comes with 225/45/17

[blanblu]

Originally posted by BSEVEER
04 HFP comes with 225/45/17

honda website shows 215/45R17

check it here (http://www.hondacars.com/models/hfp.asp?ModelName=Civic+Si)

[Low Rider]

Originally posted by BSEVEER
04 HFP comes with 225/45/17

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P215/45 R17 performance tires

www.hondacars.com/models/hfp.asp?ModelName=Civic+Si

:rolleyes:

[BSEVEER]

I can't argue with the Honda website, 215's it is. I believe they changed their mind at some point, I didn't just make it up.;) I can't find any info to back up my claim but I know I read more than once that it would have 225/45/17's. There are other threads where several other people were under the same impression. I think it may have been way back when we saw the first spy pics of the 04 with HFP. Anyway, thanks for setting me straight guys.

[slave0ne]

so does anyone here use 225/45/17 with their ep3? I think I amgoing to just get the 215/45/17 just to be safe....but the 225/45/17 look like they would make a sweet handling tire.

I think the king motorsports ep3 project car uses 225/45/17 tires.

I just don't know.

[SONIC SI]

Well it depends on the offset of the wheels. With a 225 you might have rubbing issues on the suspension. I am running a 215/45-17 with the Mugen Sport suspension on my 04 and I have no rubbing issues at all.

[Low Rider]

Originally posted by BSEVEER
I can't argue with the Honda website, 215's it is. I believe they changed their mind at some point, I didn't just make it up.;)

Ahhh come on, admit it, you made it up!!! :D

[Civicvtec1ps]

Originally posted by slave0ne

I think the king motorsports ep3 project car uses 225/45/17 tires.

Yea, They used 225/45/18 but they are also using 17X8.

[skooba]

doesn't myeverlovinsi have 235/45/17? Maybe its not him, but I know someone on here has that setup and no rubbing issues at all. 225/45 should be fine.

[slave0ne]

Well I just got my mugen sport suspension kit in the mail today! hopefully I can get it installed this weekend.
I think I am just going to go with the 215/45/17.

Although the 225/45/17 are closer to the 2004 ep3s stock set up in terms of meesing up the speedometer. No biggie though.

I think the 215/45/17 will be sexier because of the lower profile, but I might be wrong about that...can anyone confirm this?

thanks,
-j

[Civicvtec1ps]

Originally posted by slave0ne

I think the 215/45/17 will be sexier because of the lower profile, but I might be wrong about that...can anyone confirm this?

thanks,
-j
Height will be identical with 225/45/17 and 215/45/17.
The "215" is the width of a tire, also known as the "section width.
The "45"is known as the Aspect Ratio. It is calculated by dividing the section height by the section width and multiplying by 100.
The "17" stands for the diameter of the wheel in inches.

[bobdobbs]

Originally posted by Civicvtec1ps
Height will be identical with 225/45/17 and 215/45/17.
Huh? 225/45-17s are nearly half an inch taller than 215/45-17. The aspect ratio (45 in this case) is the height of the sidewall as a percetage of the width. If you keep the aspect ratio constant, but vary the tread width, you change the height of the tire.

[skooba]

Originally posted by Civicvtec1ps
Height will be identical with 225/45/17 and 215/45/17.
The "215" is the width of a tire, also known as the "section width.
The "45"is known as the Aspect Ratio. It is calculated by dividing the section height by the section width and multiplying by 100.
The "17" stands for the diameter of the wheel in inches.

Yeah man, 225/45 will have a larger profile tire. You said your self when talking about the Aspect Ratio. 215 might look better from the side, but from behind the 225 would look better IMO

[Civicvtec1ps]

Correction
215/45/17
Sidewall : 3.82
Radius : 12.32

225/45/17
Sidewall : 3.98in
Radius : 12.48in.

225/45/17 is
0.16 inch higher.

With 215/45/17
Speedometer reading with new tires is .64% too slow.

With 225/45/17
Speedometer reading with new tires is 1.93% too slow.

[slave0ne]

So does that mean that the 215/45/17 will be closer to the original speedo readings more than the 225/45/17 ??

Sorry for sounding like suck a dummy n00b.

BTW, today I ordered the Rota Attacks in bronze 17xx7.5 +45mm with 215/45/17 Bridgestone Potenza Pole Position s-03 tires.
W00h00!

[BSEVEER]

Originally posted by slave0ne
So does that mean that the 215/45/17 will be closer to the original speedo readings more than the 225/45/17 ??

Sorry for sounding like suck a dummy n00b.

BTW, today I ordered the Rota Attacks in bronze 17xx7.5 +45mm with 215/45/17 Bridgestone Potenza Pole Position s-03 tires.
W00h00!

Yes.

[bobdobbs]

Originally posted by Civicvtec1ps
225/45/17 is
0.16 inch higher.
We're talking tire height, not sidewall height. 215/45-17 is 24.61" and 225/45-17 is 24.97", a difference of 0.36". A 225/45-17 tire is 3.145% too slow and a 215 is 1.656% too slow, compared to a 195/60-15. They're both taller than stock, which is 24.21".

[Zero Three Si]

So do you get a "SMOOTHER" ride with the 225/45/17's???

If it rides like a caddy...get it then. Nothing like having a slammed Si, and the comfort.

Is it going to affect cornering though since it has more TOTAL rubber?