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bioevolve
04-14-2004, 06:13 PM
OPPS... Got that $139 Aluminum jack (harborfreight.com)instead of the $90 one which is smaller hehehe, very nice and low. Now I dont' have to drive up on blocks to get a jack under it. Gives it about 1-1 1/2 inch play with the being lowered 2+inches.
http://a3.cpimg.com/image/3F/F9/32267583-6299-02000155-.jpg
http://a5.cpimg.com/image/49/0A/32268105-bc77-02000155-.jpg
http://a6.cpimg.com/image/EA/0F/32268266-a77e-02000155-.jpg
http://a3.cpimg.com/image/69/13/32268393-c683-02000155-.jpg
Slotted upper bolt for cambering
http://a2.cpimg.com/image/E0/17/32268512-2608-02000155-.jpg
http://a2.cpimg.com/image/82/E3/32266882-cc2b-02000155-.jpg
http://a5.cpimg.com/image/21/E0/32266785-0e9e-02000155-.jpg
http://a0.cpimg.com/image/B4/D4/32266420-4ea7-02000155-.jpg
Got some new tie rod ends, cuz I have one that is damaged:angel: the new ones fit snug:D
http://a0.cpimg.com/image/2C/D8/32266540-2483-02000155-.jpg
I still can't find all the 36 way adjustablity lol. Will install next weekend. Then my current setup will be for sale.

KingGreg86
04-14-2004, 07:44 PM
what setup is that??? im looking for some suspension upgrades(stock atm)

halos02Si
04-14-2004, 08:25 PM
thats the D2 Racing 36 Way Adjustable Full Coilover System (http://www.ephatch.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33069)

i just received mine today and they sure do look purty....if you're looking to jump on this, its 775 shipped for the group buy price....you have till friday to jump on this because after that the price is going to go up....hope that helps a bit....hey bio are you going to doing a step by step with pics? cause that would help me out a lot if i decide to install next weekend as well.

-breandly

Peking
04-14-2004, 08:30 PM
Dude that sh*t looks hot :eek: Even if it has purple on it :D

Take plenty of pics :)

dustinhurley
04-14-2004, 09:05 PM
How many notches or whatever are on the dampener adjustment? Also, let us know if those solid upper mounts make the car ride too stiff or not.

Ep3 No.2
04-14-2004, 09:23 PM
i would wanna read some reviews on it befor i jumped on that.

BlasTech
04-14-2004, 10:02 PM
Wow, those look good! and they even gave you bolts. (JIC doesnt)

What spring rates did you get? Are they rebuild-able?

GCheung55
04-15-2004, 04:19 AM
You said you got new tierods or tierod ends? I know if we lower our cars too much it'll mess up... something which is related to the tie rods. What brand/type/model did you get for the tie rods?

bioevolve
04-15-2004, 04:32 AM
Current setup = Stock front struts, rear koni adjustable struts, gc coil overs.

I might do a step by step if I have the time.

The indicator says 6 notches but the thing keeps turning, os there might be more lol. no instructions came with it, so I'm figuring it out :D

They do look rebuildable/repairable, sticker says void if removed at locations of taking apart.The spring rates I got was 6k front and 13k rear.

Tie Rod Ends direct from honda. With most full coilovers the tie rod end mounting area to the strut is at a lower point, to keep less stress on them when lowering a vehicle (also less bump steering).

VNlilMAN
04-16-2004, 09:09 AM
6 notches but it keeps turning.. congrats you just found out what they meant by 36way adjustable...

idrive
04-16-2004, 12:51 PM
hey hey hey if it keeps turning turn it back! sometimes the internals litterally keep going in the same direction - but some loop back around to and go back to the lowest setting...
If you dont know- i wouldnt risk it... turn it back so you dont damage anything

bioevolve
04-19-2004, 03:59 PM
Thanks to Mike (Urbanimport.com) for his speedy response and shipping! THANKS MIKE! :D
I got the correct 13k spring rates for the rear!
http://a1.cpimg.com/image/9D/36/32523421-453c-02000155-.jpg
As you can see, the shorter the spring, the more spring rate.
http://a3.cpimg.com/image/37/54/32524343-7aef-02000155-.jpg

halos02Si
04-19-2004, 06:25 PM
glad to see you got the right springs....it would have sucked if you had installed them and had to take off to install the right ones.....let me know how you like them after the install.

-breandly

S1-EP3
04-20-2004, 10:43 AM
how does this setup ride so far??

halos02Si
04-20-2004, 12:43 PM
well i cant speak for him as i dont think he has installed them yet...but i did mines this past weekend....and i must say they ride nice.....havent really pushed it to the limit just yet because i need my alignment done....hopefully this afternoon or sometime this week....but for now....their great! :D

i just hope bio feels the same way after he installs his this weekend (last i heard) ;)

-breandly

bioevolve
04-25-2004, 06:26 AM
Before
http://a7.cpimg.com/image/51/4C/32754257-353d-02000155-.jpg
http://a4.cpimg.com/image/A8/D3/32750504-29ad-02000155-.jpg
http://a7.cpimg.com/image/7B/3D/32753787-66d7-02000155-.jpg
http://a3.cpimg.com/image/81/14/32752513-0bc5-02000155-.jpg
After
http://a2.cpimg.com/image/66/45/32754022-014d-02000155-.jpg
http://a2.cpimg.com/image/E0/38/32753632-8d69-02000155-.jpg
http://a2.cpimg.com/image/BC/3F/32753852-031e-02000155-.jpg
http://a8.cpimg.com/image/14/32/32753428-38bd-02000155-.jpg

bioevolve
04-25-2004, 06:34 AM
Side by Side, D2 are much shorter.
http://a1.cpimg.com/image/CD/27/32753101-829a-02000155-.jpg
http://a6.cpimg.com/image/34/3B/32753716-307d-02000155-.jpg
Gotta use the rear stock top and replace the stock washers and rubbers in it with new D2 ones.
http://a6.cpimg.com/image/E8/18/32752616-77c5-02000155-.jpg
I was gonna cut the upper mount area to give more adjustability, but decided not to, cuz it would weaken that part. Hit a bump hard and it would just punch through and come through the hood lol.
http://a3.cpimg.com/image/83/2D/32753283-f0f9-02000155-.jpg
Counted the numbers of turn to take off the tie rod ends and put new ones on with same amount to turns, that way it will be close to what I had for toe-in and toe-out
http://a9.cpimg.com/image/35/22/32752949-1267-02000155-.jpg
Using the orginal lines I had marked before on the knuckle to line up new D2's, again to get the camber close to where it was.
http://a2.cpimg.com/image/34/1A/32752692-a234-02000155-.jpg

bioevolve
04-25-2004, 06:43 AM
Had to drill 2 holes (one for lower strut bolt, other for brake line braket) and bent to simulate stock braket. went and got some new bolts,nuts, and lock washers to make it work.
http://a0.cpimg.com/image/D0/30/32753360-92b8-02000155-.jpg
http://a4.cpimg.com/image/7E/35/32753534-cedb-02000155-.jpg
Now the FASTBRAKES.com rear brake upgrade:
Took the hawk pads and brembo rotor off.
http://a3.cpimg.com/image/A3/47/32754083-6c25-02000155-.jpg
Installed the hub centric ring to fill the gap for the bigger rear rotors.
http://a7.cpimg.com/image/1F/4B/32754207-eff6-02000155-.jpg
Installed the caliper adaptor
http://a6.cpimg.com/image/E2/49/32754146-9404-02000155-.jpg
Installed the stock caliper braket on the fastbrakes bracket and spacer washer to center around the rotor
http://a8.cpimg.com/image/60/D9/32750688-e474-02000155-.jpg
Pads are way smaller than stock
http://a2.cpimg.com/image/4A/E1/32750922-0f18-02000155-.jpg

bioevolve
04-25-2004, 06:49 AM
Only half the rotor is touched by the pad, but supposingly it's 50%more gripping power than stock.
http://a4.cpimg.com/image/A6/E4/32751014-dbaa-02000155-.jpg
Green is not my color lol, plus it wouldn't look to good on the car.
BEFORE:
http://a2.cpimg.com/image/3A/E9/32751162-4823-02000155-.jpg
AFTER:
http://a6.cpimg.com/image/A2/EC/32751266-dac0-02000155-.jpg
See 15" rims fit (fastbrakes.com said stock 15's will fit also)
http://a1.cpimg.com/image/3D/F1/32751421-1c8b-02000155-.jpg
http://a3.cpimg.com/image/B7/F5/32751543-27fd-02000155-.jpg
My 17's look alittle better with the rotor filling up the inside gaps. Needs a cleaning I know.
http://a5.cpimg.com/image/3B/F9/32751675-a06b-02000155-.jpg
Put on a new valve cover filter :p
http://a1.cpimg.com/image/F7/EF/32751351-6e60-02000155-.jpg

bioevolve
04-25-2004, 03:38 PM
Replaced filter on my CAI
http://a1.cpimg.com/image/DB/BC/32781531-89da-02000155-.jpg
Installed new spark plugs (non-resistor for the nology wire setup) 8 heat rage V-Power (2 steps colder) .41 GAP.
http://a8.cpimg.com/image/0A/BE/32781578-db02-02000155-.jpg

team ERA 5
04-25-2004, 03:49 PM
wow very impressive!...was that all in one days work?...how do u like the d2's? please do a little write up...:D

bioevolve
04-25-2004, 04:26 PM
Well on saturday, came home from work about 12:30pm ate lunch and started to work for 4.5hrs.
Test drove it a bit, Feels like and whole new car.
Found out you can turn the top adjustment knob about 7 full turns from soft to hard.:D ;)
Still need to get an alignment, even thou it drives straight. Don't want inner or outer corners wearing away to fast hehehe.
Had it on firm all the way around, :eek: talk about bumpy hehehe.
6k front and 13K rear spring rates, Now set to soft front and firm rear. Rides ok, but most everyone else will have 8k front and 10k rear.
I'm just a daily driver with Drag setup :D
Will know more when I drive it some more, on real roads, not just freashly new paved neighborhood roads lol.

downhil
04-25-2004, 07:34 PM
what is the height adjustability range.

can you tuck any tire? i have less than a finger's gap in the front with my neuspeeds and want to stick to that height.

bioevolve
04-25-2004, 08:35 PM
It depends on your spring rate, but 0-3 inch.
If you get higher spring rate coils you can go lower because the spring are shorter.
Currently I have 1.5 finger gap in front and 3 on back lol.
Will adjust again as soon as I get a feel for it. Fine Tuning.;)

bioevolve
04-26-2004, 11:03 AM
Drove to work and back today, rides great! For what is expected due to my rear higher spring rates. A slight bit of understeer, just remesured the front toe and was toed out about half an inch. Adjusted for that this evening. I still have not gotten an alignment due to work :(
It is like night and day compared to my other setup. It's not harsh on bumps and pot holes on soft setting. I can't really give an accurate reveiw because not everyone will get this type of spring rates I have. BUT I give it 100% (TWO THUMBS UP).
Did some hard launches at stop lights :eek: ;) and it does not dip back (sit back)like the other setup, so the weight is kept to the front. Which will be perfect for drag strip.:D

slc71
04-26-2004, 12:43 PM
Did you get the D2 rear camber kit also?
I was wondering if it was needed.

bioevolve
04-26-2004, 08:47 PM
I have SPC camber kit, been had it for awhile now.
Yes, you need a rear camber kit, D2's is a great start.

downhil
04-27-2004, 06:21 PM
cool thanks.

bioevolve
04-28-2004, 08:01 PM
I understand what you're saying, but that is the way D2 spring come, shorter = high spring rate (stiffer), taller = lower spring rate (softer).
I ordered mine with those spring rates specifically for my setup, regularly they come 8k front and 10k rear.
Well 11 turns to take off the tie rod ends on the old setup and height, I put back with same amount of turns. From the look of it (if memory serves me correct) the tie rod end was only threaded about a little more than half the length of the thread on the arm.

VNlilMAN
04-29-2004, 05:55 PM
Originally posted by blackdc5
Unless D2 decides to do that, spring rate and height isn't really relevant. You can get replacement Eibach ERS springs w/ specific ID, spring rate, and length. You can have an 8" long spring and a 6" long spring with the same spring rate.
Its most likely because D2 decided to make them like that. Reason being, say you had 12kg springs the same length as my 6kg spring(i drive a coupe). I'm dropped all the way with them and my tires are slightly tucking. If they were 12kg rated than I probably would still have a 2 finger gap. Thus if you make the spring shorter(as D2 did) it allows you to go lower with the stiffer springs

bioevolve
04-29-2004, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by VNlilMAN
Its most likely because D2 decided to make them like that. Reason being, say you had 12kg springs the same length as my 6kg spring(i drive a coupe). I'm dropped all the way with them and my tires are slightly tucking. If they were 12kg rated than I probably would still have a 2 finger gap. Thus if you make the spring shorter(as D2 did) it allows you to go lower with the stiffer springs

Bingo, You took the words out of my mouth :D

I love the setup, no dips in shifting, no dips in launching.:D Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy.
Will be adjusting height again this weekend along with adjusting toes and soft/firmness again. Until I feel that I have the right tweaks I want.
Still no alignment done yet, probably will be Monday when I do that.

zeroz52
05-08-2004, 07:27 AM
WTF?! I read through this thread hoping to get reviews of the D2, but as usual some prick posts some shit just so he can show everyone how smart he is. If you want to voice your opinion start another thread and post a link or something in this one so that those who already know the shit you seem to HAVE to voice don't have to sift through the bullshit to find the info we came here for. Sorry for this post bio, what did you end up with for your dampening settings? Got any pics of your car completed?

bioevolve
05-08-2004, 01:08 PM
Full Soft on front and full soft on rear for daily driving.
Full Soft front and full firm on rear for drag launching.
Medium front and full firm rear for conering.;) :D

Will take more picks of car when I'm done with tranny probls in another thread hehehe.:D

bioevolve
05-09-2004, 10:32 AM
http://a4.cpimg.com/image/D8/82/33359064-a8d0-02000155-.jpg

zeroz52
05-09-2004, 01:25 PM
:eek: Damn nice car bio. :eek:

zeroz52
05-09-2004, 01:28 PM
What is the drop on it, and what size rims and tires? Just want to get an idea of what the drop on mine will look like next weekend after my buddy and I throw on my new D2s ;)

bioevolve
05-09-2004, 01:35 PM
Wheels are 17x7 with 42 offset, tires are crappy Kuhmo 711 205/40/17 (but cheap tires to wear away ;) )
Front is about 1 finger (fender to tire)
Rear is about 2 fingers (fender to tire)
Car is on a hill so it doesn't look like it lol.

zeroz52
05-09-2004, 09:01 PM
Thnx bio :)

Speck
05-12-2004, 07:14 AM
Bio: So did you ever put together a step by step? I am purchasing these this weekend it looks like and I would like to be able to save some cash and do the install myself.

Do they come disassembled? With no instructions? Eeek.

How is the ride? the 0-3" drop that you mentioned, this is adjustable? Did you notice and difference between the sleeved coilovers that you had on before? Running full soft, how is the ride compared to stock, is it or can it be smoother?

Thanks!!

-=speck=-

bioevolve
05-12-2004, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by Speck
Bio: So did you ever put together a step by step? I am purchasing these this weekend it looks like and I would like to be able to save some cash and do the install myself.

Do they come disassembled? With no instructions? Eeek.

How is the ride? the 0-3" drop that you mentioned, this is adjustable? Did you notice and difference between the sleeved coilovers that you had on before? Running full soft, how is the ride compared to stock, is it or can it be smoother?

Thanks!!

-=speck=-

Just what is in this thread, no step by step, but if you have any questions, just ask.
They are pretty much assembled, just gotta use a few parts from the stock.
No instructions.
Ride is better than sleeved, but I have a different spring rate than you will have. So it's much more bumpy for me. :D ;)
Smoothness is there, these are better than, sleeve coil overs, and sleeve coil overs with aftermarket struts.
I do feel less of the road than I did with the sleeve coil overs.
But if you took a ride in my car, you wouldn't think so lol.

zeroz52
05-17-2004, 01:48 PM
Just got mine installed yesterday, and so far I love em. The ride is way nicer than stock shocks and springs imo. Installation was easy enough as long as you have some inclination of what you are doing. And if you forget to put the dampening adjustment knob on before you put in the rears, dont worry about it. There is a set screw you can undo and the knob pops off the allen key adjuster. Slide it in and put the knob back on. It willbend alittle bit when you go to put it in but it didn't bend it permanently (it goes right back to original shape). Like bio said, if you got questionsabout the install, just ask.

bioevolve
05-17-2004, 02:52 PM
Originally posted by blackdc5
I didn't mean for it to get into an argument. So to keep this thread strictly informational, I deleted my posts.

I just felt it necessary to correct what you said about more springs being shorter as the spring rate increases...thus an 18kg/mm spring being even shorter than your 13kg/mm spring--for the benefit of this board. You don't want people spreading the wrong information. You said you knew what I was talking about, fine. From what you posted, people may not know the background of it.

Just to keep the thread informative, for the D2 coilovers, 11kg and softer springs are in fact 7" whereas the 13kg+ springs are 5". So, the 18kg spring would not be any shorter than your 13kg springs.

No biggy mon, water under the bridge :D ;)

bioevolve
05-28-2004, 10:35 AM
been awhile since last check up, light rust on the bolts and nuts.
http://a1.cpimg.com/image/C9/B3/34241481-fb6b-02000155-.jpg
http://a4.cpimg.com/image/A8/BB/34241704-b237-02000155-.jpg
So far it's riding good for this setup. :D