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denmah
04-17-2004, 02:40 PM
JRSC video (http://www.herrforce.com/misc/civic/SUPACIVIC.wmv) 7meg if you must know.

its hitting 6 almost 7psi if you watch the boost gauge

02SilverSiHB
04-17-2004, 02:43 PM
well, glad you're having fun....my fucking shit aint workin yo! :p

Can you get your friend to tell me what the injectors wires are wired....I wired them and I'm having problems...not sure if it's those or not, but according to the directions, it's the blue wire. I have a flashing green light and my idle fluctuates from 1k to 2k...also the yellow light flashes when I push the gas for boost

amctmg
04-17-2004, 02:52 PM
Cool vid:cool:

maybe if you get your ecu back in time you can take it to the strip next weekend I can't wait to see some low 14's or high 13's out of it

denmah
04-17-2004, 02:52 PM
this is all i can show you, he is at work for now but when he gets home ill have him mark wich wires on the ecu and ill send you the diagram hes a robotics electronics major.

so this was too easy for him. i got him the pinouts for the ecu from the shop manual PDF file and on the JR instructions they tell you what pin #s to use so its easy that way.

here is what he did im afraid to take it apart tho.

http://www.herrforce.com/misc/civic/ECU.jpg
http://www.herrforce.com/misc/civic/ecu2.jpg

k20hatch
04-17-2004, 04:12 PM
Wow...just wow. Im very impressed!

RMC22
04-17-2004, 04:19 PM
Got any formats other than wmv for those with macs? :angel:

ShowstoppersUSA
04-17-2004, 04:19 PM
Cool vid! I'm guessing your waiting on an ECU from Hondata???

Rocky
Showstoppers USA

denmah
04-17-2004, 04:22 PM
yeah imma send my reflashed one back on monday, and then wait for there programmable.

but next i must get a header and a exhaust.

skooba
04-17-2004, 04:38 PM
:eek: Wow you went pretty fast on that road! I don't have the balls to do anything like that anymore. Nice vid!

bao_pay
04-17-2004, 04:39 PM
much cooler than a swap anyday... prolly faster too!!!:angel:

02SilverSiHB
04-17-2004, 04:43 PM
Originally posted by denmah
this is all i can show you, he is at work for now but when he gets home ill have him mark wich wires on the ecu and ill send you the diagram hes a robotics electronics major.

so this was too easy for him. i got him the pinouts for the ecu from the shop manual PDF file and on the JR instructions they tell you what pin #s to use so its easy that way.

here is what he did im afraid to take it apart tho.

http://www.herrforce.com/misc/civic/ECU.jpg
http://www.herrforce.com/misc/civic/ecu2.jpg
I have a helms manual, so I know what pins to splice into...but I can't tell from your pics, if he put all the grey wires and blue wires onto one ecu wire...I would assume not. The directions say to take the three grey jr wires and blue jr wire and splice anyone of them into each of the four ecu wires...the red,blue,yello, and brown wires...:(

bobdobbs
04-17-2004, 04:47 PM
Nice. According to my stopwatch, you've got about a 6.8 second 0-60.

SIxtasy
04-17-2004, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by RMC22
Got any formats other than wmv for those with macs? :angel:

Get the Newest WMV. Its works fine on my mac

denmah
04-17-2004, 05:40 PM
Originally posted by bobdobbs
Nice. According to my stopwatch, you've got about a 6.8 second 0-60.

now if i really launched it with a stop and i could hit 7500rpm safely i would have a hella faster time lol

denmah
04-17-2004, 05:41 PM
Originally posted by 02SilverSiHB
I have a helms manual, so I know what pins to splice into...but I can't tell from your pics, if he put all the grey wires and blue wires onto one ecu wire...I would assume not. The directions say to take the three grey jr wires and blue jr wire and splice anyone of them into each of the four ecu wires...the red,blue,yello, and brown wires...:(

yeah i remember what he said about that, they all get there own wire. one gets the blue and the rest of the injector wires get the grey.

civic si hb
04-17-2004, 06:02 PM
absolutly great video,the best JR video i've seen yet. has anyone seen 1/4 mile times yet with the JR? i've been searching but haven't found much. thanks

trk
04-17-2004, 06:26 PM
Originally posted by RMC22
Got any formats other than wmv for those with macs? :angel:

www.windowsmedia.com

Download the mac version.

BlasTech
04-17-2004, 07:11 PM
That's a nice vid, how did you mount the camera?

bobdobbs
04-17-2004, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by denmah
now if i really launched it with a stop and i could hit 7500rpm safely i would have a hella faster time lol
Yeah, that second shift before you hit 60 kills you.

denmah
04-17-2004, 07:46 PM
yeah the hondata took me from a 15.7 to a 15.0.... so imagine what a SC would get out of that

Civicvtec1ps
04-17-2004, 07:55 PM
Awesome Video.

civic si hb
04-17-2004, 07:58 PM
trust me i can imagine it....... i would love to see what a supercharged Si(ep3) could do down the 1/4 mile. i've been researching the JR charger since the release date. how do you feel the reliabilty is with the A3 engine with the charger?

denmah
04-17-2004, 08:03 PM
it feels really stable, and controllable. and it is a very solid piece, its all cast iron.


i feel the two together should be very reliable. i cant wait to get a higher boost pulley and toss in some injectors and up the limiter, i really need to take advantage of the revs i forgot what a downer the 6800 rpm redline was, man thats no fun. im thinking of tossing in a pair of larger injectors for fun and see what happens. lol.

if your in the PA area ill take you for a ride.

siver-SI
04-17-2004, 08:03 PM
Nice VID. Just wondering do you have any idea what kind of HP you are putting down?

denmah
04-17-2004, 08:09 PM
no idea. im getting a dyno next weekend. ill let you know then.

civic si hb
04-17-2004, 08:20 PM
if your in the PA area ill take you for a ride.


i just might have to take you up on that offer some time this summer :) , thanks.

denmah
04-17-2004, 08:24 PM
ok now i need a header, and a catback.

i had the magnaflow and i disliked it quite a bit. it was too loud, is there anything thats quiet and doesnt fart?

i hear the hks is pretty good and the invidia and thermal is quiet?

or are they just a deep sound, i dislike the deep sound too, i think ill just have a shop install a b pipe. and ill keep the stock exhaust.

i was looking into a DC sports header. any reccomendations?

civic si hb
04-17-2004, 08:33 PM
you might try looking into the EVO II as far as sound and performance goes. i was also looking into the JR race header, it seems to match up real well with the charger. it's suppose to add like a 25+ whp gain with the charger, just a thought.:)

denmah
04-17-2004, 08:37 PM
its not carb legal tho.

civic si hb
04-17-2004, 08:43 PM
so true, we don't have any emmission testing here.once it does come here that'll suck.

amctmg
04-17-2004, 08:57 PM
where at in pa?

denmah
04-17-2004, 09:01 PM
allentown.

emosubaru
04-18-2004, 07:13 AM
FUEL!!!! FIX IT!!!!! NOW!!!!! how rich do you run man?

ADAMnQuickCIVIC
04-18-2004, 08:18 AM
sounds pretty cool...
seems to go about as good as my A2...

Bificus
04-18-2004, 09:53 AM
6.8 Sec 0-60 with an easy launch. Not shabby at all. I am seriously intrigued on purchasing a SC unit but I am still under warranty for another 16K miles. The other thing is trying to persuade the Mrs that this is a good idea! :* :D

bobdobbs
04-18-2004, 09:54 AM
Originally posted by denmah
its not carb legal tho.
Why do you care in PA? Does PA follow carb, too?

ep pilot
04-18-2004, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by skooba
:eek: Wow you went pretty fast on that road! I don't have the balls to do anything like that anymore. Nice vid!

Yeah, I

bgsteve523
04-18-2004, 01:51 PM
how are you boosting 7lbs when everyone else is like 5 to 5.5??
Is that save for jr. You are basicly boosting as much as i am right now with the greddy kit with no I/C.

Makross
04-18-2004, 02:26 PM
Excellent Vid.

bgsteve523
04-18-2004, 05:03 PM
Great vid
from the vid it seems your car is just as fast as mine right now with no I/C my 0-60 is a little better than that because when I shift into 2nd my tires brake loose but its crazy power but our top ends seem about the same right now. I also had hondata before i got the greddy kit and man do i miss it the stock red line plan SUCKS!!! It really kills our FI cars. I am very impressed with your cars power its about time to see a really good jrsc vid and to see one running with good power like yours. Are you going to upgrade to a higher boost, do they offer that yet for the SC?
Thanks,
Steve O

stockblack'03
04-18-2004, 05:48 PM
Man, that is fucking awesome. I gather from some of your posts that you are running a stock exhaust? I LOVE the sound - the JRSC adds a nice whistle to it, and the boost gauge looks really nice too. Acceleration looks fantastic. To me, that is all my car needs ( along with some suspension upgrades ). It seems that the best way to get real gains out of your car is to just go SC or Turbo and be done with it. Congrats, man, Enjoy it! Guess I'll be saving my cash for that mod.

What was the total $ damage after the install?

OK, gotta go watch that vid again.

Thanks!

SB03

stockblack'03
04-18-2004, 07:04 PM
Next time take it down the cart path....

denmah
04-18-2004, 09:43 PM
yeah its stock exhaust, im getting ahold of a greddy evo2 and a dc header. that should free up some more hp.

i raced a mk4 vr6gti with a intake exhaust and chip pulling 175 hp and tq to the wheels. from a roll on the highway, and i pulled dead even with him from a 50 roll. when we hit 100 i started to walk him but not buy much, i hope when i have the exhaust to race him again and walk all over him. btw i was shifting at 6 again and still walked right along side him.

now when i stop running hondata tune for NA car and go back to stock i might acutally get better performance. and the exhaust and header should really open things up.

02SilverSiHB
04-19-2004, 03:12 AM
Originally posted by denmah
yeah its stock exhaust, im getting ahold of a greddy evo2 and a dc header. that should free up some more hp.

i raced a mk4 vr6gti with a intake exhaust and chip pulling 175 hp and tq to the wheels. from a roll on the highway, and i pulled dead even with him from a 50 roll. when we hit 100 i started to walk him but not buy much, i hope when i have the exhaust to race him again and walk all over him. btw i was shifting at 6 again and still walked right along side him.

now when i stop running hondata tune for NA car and go back to stock i might acutally get better performance. and the exhaust and header should really open things up.
I hate to say this, and don't take my word as gold :D but I bet your reflashed ecu is doing better than the rest of us...at least imo. It really feels like I'm running rich, and when I watched your vid, it appears your a/f is reading quite rich...even with hondata, but then again, the autometer a/f meters are only to be used as a guide after you've found out your true a/f read out. If you can, try and find out what your a/f is before you send your ecu off...if you haven't already

Dunrick
04-19-2004, 05:54 AM
that gti could prolly pop a 14.5 TOPS at the track, i'm guessing 14.7-8 to be safe. fyi - just gives you estimate.

bgsteve523
04-19-2004, 06:58 AM
i agree with 02silversihb when you go back to stock tuning your performance will go down a little. I can't wait to get my greddy hondata tune because this car runs so damn rich its not even funny. I think all of these piggy back computers play it to safe by how rich they make the cars run.

02SilverSiHB
04-19-2004, 08:46 AM
Originally posted by bgsteve523
i agree with 02silversihb when you go back to stock tuning your performance will go down a little. I can't wait to get my greddy hondata tune because this car runs so damn rich its not even funny. I think all of these piggy back computers play it to safe by how rich they make the cars run.
yeah, I can't imagine how fast your shit will be when you get hondata :D that will be awsome!

denmah
04-19-2004, 12:49 PM
imma get mine dyno'd tonight. and since its runnig rich as hell all the way to 7g imma get a wide band o2 on it and my tuner and i are gunna run it all the way out to rev limiter and watch the mixture and everything, since its still rich at 7k i think it may even be safe to 7500 if not 7700.

well see what happens on a jrsc honda with no header or exhaust, lol

im going with a greddy evo2 and a ceramic dc header. then ill dyno it after i install that stuff too, ill be keepin you guys updated.

Stealth Wedgy
04-19-2004, 01:34 PM
Wow, your in allentown, im in Pottstown. Id like to come up and check out your EP some time.

02SilverSiHB
04-19-2004, 02:51 PM
Originally posted by denmah
imma get mine dyno'd tonight. and since its runnig rich as hell all the way to 7g imma get a wide band o2 on it and my tuner and i are gunna run it all the way out to rev limiter and watch the mixture and everything, since its still rich at 7k i think it may even be safe to 7500 if not 7700.

well see what happens on a jrsc honda with no header or exhaust, lol

im going with a greddy evo2 and a ceramic dc header. then ill dyno it after i install that stuff too, ill be keepin you guys updated.
dude that's awsome...if it ends up running good and gives good numbers, I may just buy hondata reflash since they are taking so damn long for a jrsc one

DavidT
04-19-2004, 03:05 PM
Denmah you won't have to buy a wideband o2 because your car already comes from the factory with a wideband o2. Honda calls it a "Lean-air fuel sensor." If your tuner is familiar with K-series motors he will tell you the same thing :)

Looking forward to see your dyno results. Your car sounds wicked in the video. Love the supercharger whine :D

02SilverSiHB
04-19-2004, 03:12 PM
Originally posted by DavidT
Denmah you won't have to buy a wideband o2 because your car already comes from the factory with a wideband o2. Honda calls it a "Lean-air fuel sensor." If your tuner is familiar with K-series motors he will tell you the same thing :)

Looking forward to see your dyno results. Your car sounds wicked in the video. Love the supercharger whine :D
awsome...I was wondering how the hell my a/f was getting such good readings..I guess honda's o2 sensor is pretty good, seems to stay in stoich instead of moving back and forth like a nut case in my last civic

B4U
05-25-2004, 11:43 AM
sick sick sick

K20NutBucket
05-25-2004, 08:07 PM
im confused....some of you guys with the jrsc are running hondata. i could of swore hondata said NOT to use there ecu tuning with the street version cause the chance of detonation at higher revs?? Unless that has changed can someone help clear this up.

trk
05-25-2004, 08:44 PM
Originally posted by K20NutBucket
im confused....some of you guys with the jrsc are running hondata. i could of swore hondata said NOT to use there ecu tuning with the street version cause the chance of detonation at higher revs?? Unless that has changed can someone help clear this up.

for the love of god, re-read the thread... please?

02SilverSiHB
05-26-2004, 02:40 AM
Originally posted by trk
for the love of god, re-read the thread... please? yeah no kidding

fsugatorbait
05-26-2004, 07:15 AM
Any dyno results?

ViViDPeArL
05-26-2004, 07:36 AM
Originally posted by 02SilverSiHB
awsome...I was wondering how the hell my a/f was getting such good readings..I guess honda's o2 sensor is pretty good, seems to stay in stoich instead of moving back and forth like a nut case in my last civic

AEM high end air fuel ratio is suppose to be really good...but it comes with a BOSCH o2 sensor....bosch o2 sensors are stock on our car i believe...so it should give pretty good numbers...

02SilverSiHB
05-26-2004, 09:31 AM
Originally posted by fsugatorbait
Any dyno results? he sold it to black 02 si

fsugatorbait
05-26-2004, 09:36 AM
Originally posted by 02SilverSiHB
he sold it to black 02 si

yeah, i was hoping he would have been able to see what he was putting down before he got rid of it. How bout stepping up for us Mikey. ;) :cool:

02SilverSiHB
05-26-2004, 09:39 AM
Originally posted by fsugatorbait
yeah, i was hoping he would have been able to see what he was putting down before he got rid of it. How bout stepping up for us Mikey. ;) :cool: oh wait, he did actually, I think he got 175 and 145wtq.

As for me :( who knows when. Since I moved to this small ass town, I'm 3 hours away from the nearest dyno..and they are open only on weekdays

fsugatorbait
05-26-2004, 09:43 AM
Originally posted by 02SilverSiHB
oh wait, he did actually, I think he got 175 and 145wtq.

As for me :( who knows when. Since I moved to this small ass town, I'm 3 hours away from the nearest dyno..and they are open only on weekdays

Ouch, low #'s.

I hear ya on the drive though, im sure one of the other guys closer to a dyno will help us out. Any thoughts on guardian vs. hondata?

02SilverSiHB
05-26-2004, 09:48 AM
Originally posted by fsugatorbait
Ouch, low #'s.

I hear ya on the drive though, im sure one of the other guys closer to a dyno will help us out. Any thoughts on guardian vs. hondata? yeah, he only a sri at the time I believe

Black 02 SI
05-26-2004, 04:25 PM
i am gonna get mine dyno'd in a few weeks. i want to get my bolt on high flo cat porject complete first though. i am hopin around 200whp with mine. she is runnin crazy good today in this cold weather. i even hit 7psi of boost a bunch of times. :) i am hittin 6psi all the time now that i changed plugs and reset the ecu.

smilla0
05-27-2004, 09:00 AM
Originally posted by 02SilverSiHB
he sold it to black 02 si

Why did he sell it? Was he disappointed by the power output?

02SilverSiHB
05-27-2004, 09:15 AM
Originally posted by smilla0
Why did he sell it? Was he disappointed by the power output? he got a bike instead

spider883
05-27-2004, 09:25 AM
im selling my jrsc after i get it dynoed on the 19th

SF-SI-02
05-27-2004, 09:26 AM
Why do you think you can hit 200whp? I.e. what have you done that denmah didn't do?

02SilverSiHB
05-27-2004, 09:36 AM
Originally posted by spider883
im selling my jrsc after i get it dynoed on the 19th

wow! why? going turbo, not satisfied with the jrsc?

spider883
05-27-2004, 09:40 AM
A with no numbers behind it if you know what i mean :D

02SilverSiHB
05-27-2004, 09:44 AM
Originally posted by spider883
A with no numbers behind it if you know what i mean :D

?? I don't understand what you are saying, what numbers?

spider883
05-27-2004, 09:47 AM
K20A is going in the civic.. with my current i/h/e and kpro.. then toda package

SF-SI-02
05-27-2004, 11:12 AM
Wow two used JRSC on ephatch in one month, that's great news for me, bad news for oscar and co!

smilla0
05-27-2004, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by SF-SI-02
Wow two used JRSC on ephatch in one month, that's great news for me, bad news for oscar and co!

Hehe, yeah right? But it makes me wonder, if people get it and sell it a month later, how great can it be?

Pradamuimui
05-27-2004, 01:26 PM
So....all and all were you satisfied with the JRSC????

Nossy
05-27-2004, 03:02 PM
Originally posted by spider883
K20A is going in the civic.. with my current i/h/e and kpro.. then toda package

Any clue how much you're gonna be asking for the charger? Don't really have any money to spend right now...but my girlfriend's getting an ep within the next month and I wanna go with the JRSC on the EP3 since I went turbo on my DC5....

spider883
05-27-2004, 03:37 PM
probably 2k with charger, both pulleys, a/f and boost gauge and full pillar pod, and if the person who buys it lives close free install by me haha

02SilverSiHB
05-27-2004, 03:42 PM
Originally posted by spider883
K20A is going in the civic.. with my current i/h/e and kpro.. then toda package

awsome, you'll love that, NA power. I hear that gets around 250whp NA and 150tq

Nossy
05-27-2004, 03:58 PM
Originally posted by spider883
probably 2k with charger, both pulleys, a/f and boost gauge and full pillar pod, and if the person who buys it lives close free install by me haha

Well I'm not close by....but if you would....go ahead and shoot me a PM when it's off before you post it up, I might be interested...

Thanks...

trk
05-27-2004, 04:04 PM
Im interested as well.

spider883
05-27-2004, 04:39 PM
it will be taken off sunday the 20th after i dyno it on the 19th

SF-SI-02
05-27-2004, 04:43 PM
Trk I would be careful about getting a sc if you are going FI. Jrking (currently selling his sc in classified) complained that he never got the JRSC upto boost at Utah elevation, I don't imagine CO being much different. He said he even tried using smaller pullies to no avail, I would fire him a pm and ask about it... its bizarre because vtecnrg got sick gains from the greddy and he is pretty high up, I fly so I know about thin air, but after riding with vtecnrg I was convinced this did not effect boosted cars... now I thnk I may have been wrong!