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STP03BlueSI
04-21-2004, 09:43 AM
Need info on treadwear?

420 Treadwear.

Is it the lower the # the better or is it worse?

dtexan
04-21-2004, 09:54 AM
The higher the number the harder the rubber and longer it will last. Most performance tires are rated at 300 or less.

03silverEP
04-21-2004, 04:00 PM
420 is a little high (35,xxx-40,xxx miles) if you're going for grip and daily driving go 250-300, any lower they will wear quick

example. Kumho 712's tread 280, I got 22,xxx miles out of them and I drove pretty hard and didn't have a camber kit

goy091
04-21-2004, 04:04 PM
420 is high for a performance tire, mebe not for like an all season tire.

BlasTech
04-21-2004, 04:32 PM
There is only one long-life all-season tire I've ever heard good reviews of... Dunlop SP sport A2's ... they last forever, and have the best traction rating for thier treadlife.

The deal with tires is, the lower the number, the grippier they will be... but you have to look hard to find the ones that are cheap enough to justify the short life.

And that is precisely why Falken Azenis Sport RT (200treadwear) are the most popular ultra-high performance "summer" tire, and Yoko AV-ES100s are the most populare all-season ultra-high performance tires (280treadwear)

Azenis will last around 10-15K miles at ~$40 each for 15's.

They are CHEAPER than all the others with thier specs!

Note: an alignment will cost less than replacing a set of tires, and it will prolong the life of your tires.

EtherGhost
04-21-2004, 05:47 PM
Blastech, do you know anywhere that has 205/55 15's in stock? Every internet reseller seems to be out of stock :(. Might have to find some steelies and slap 195/60 14's on them.

Si4U2NV
04-21-2004, 06:02 PM
Free Info... enjoy...

Treadwear
The treadwear grade is a comparative rating based on the wear of a tire when tested carefully under controlled conditions. For example, a tire graded 400 should have its useful tread last twice as long as a tire graded 200. Another tire manufacturer, however, may grade a comparable design 300, so a grade of 150 would last half as long under their grading scheme. The lesson learned is to not use one manufacturer's grade versus the other, but instead to compare tire grades within a given brand.Actual treadwear performance can vary tremendously according to the tire's real-world use: variations in driving habits, service practices (most importantly air pressure maintenance) and road conditions and climate affect tire life.

http://discounttiredirect.com/direct/brochure/info/tmpInfoTreadwear.jsp

-Mike :smilem:

EP3inRI
04-21-2004, 07:25 PM
Originally posted by BlasTech
Yoko AV-ES100s are the most populare all-season ultra-high performance tires (280treadwear)

Yoko AVS ES100s are summer tires too. I put my set on for summer and two days later it snowed and you can barely stay on the road. Plus, they have a directional and smooth tread. CLICKY (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Yokohama&tireModel=AVS+ES100&vehicleSearch=false&partnum=96HR5ES100&fromCompare1=yes)
The stock Michelin's have a 300 treadware, but they have a normal nobbier tread.
Here's a good article on the UTQG ratings:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/general/utqg.jsp

nozomi
04-21-2004, 07:47 PM
Originally posted by EtherGhost
Blastech, do you know anywhere that has 205/55 15's in stock? Every internet reseller seems to be out of stock :(. Might have to find some steelies and slap 195/60 14's on them.

Are u looking for 205/55R15 for Azenis? sorry man there's no such size for Azenis. I want a set of Azenis also but it'll be too small with 205/50R15 running on the street:o

BlasTech
04-21-2004, 08:01 PM
yep, 205/50/15 are the only 15" azenis rs size... and they are great for the money, but smallish.


EP3inRI, I'll take your word on the Yokes not being good for snow... I havent seen snow in something like uhhh, 7 years? :cool:

Burgh
04-22-2004, 08:06 AM
Originally posted by nozomi
Are u looking for 205/55R15 for Azenis? sorry man there's no such size for Azenis. I want a set of Azenis also but it'll be too small with 205/50R15 running on the street:o

I run the 205/50/15s on the street as a daily driver and they work just fine. Sure I'll have to get a set every year but they're SO grippy. :D

Blastech, where're you finding the Azenis for $40 man?! :eek: I paid $65 for mine and that's still a pretty good deal these days!

K20A3Si
04-22-2004, 10:46 AM
have falkenze on my wheels right now..when i go to the course i have some shaved toyo's i got from a co-worker.....i will let you all know how the tires worked out..and how much they are shaved.

FCobra94
04-23-2004, 07:55 AM
What about the Kumho ASX's? They have a 420 treadware rating and those that have reviewed them said that they were quite sticky.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Kumho&tireModel=Ecsta+ASX

A few people on Club Si have them and have given great reviews for them as well...