I/H/E = 14.84 timeslip [Archive]

rocket_civic

10-14-2002, 05:13 AM

YOu heard it right, i went to the track yesterday and out of 14 runs my fastest was a 14.849 @ 91.93 mph, against a corvette z-06.

As soon as i get off school tonight i'll post my timeslip. Does everyone also want my other 13 slips too? I can also try and take a pic of my car with the soap #'s on the front and back with the time if no one believes me.

:) :D :cool:

silver ep

10-14-2002, 06:05 AM

Nice man! What I/H/E combination do you have?

rocket_civic

10-14-2002, 07:33 AM

aem cold air, hp racing header, and thermal exaust.

rocket_civic

10-14-2002, 07:46 AM

http://www.ephatch.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3610

its info on the slip

Glix

10-14-2002, 08:31 AM

So you're telling me that an Si with I/H/E is faster than an Si with a type S swap and I/H/E?

2fastcivic

10-14-2002, 08:39 AM

damn very nice times man. did you stripped the car of anything? what were your times for the other 13 runs?

IceD out N CALI

10-14-2002, 08:52 AM

impressive

blacksvt

10-14-2002, 09:20 AM

Originally posted by Glix
So you're telling me that an Si with I/H/E is faster than an Si with a type S swap and I/H/E?

I think those mods add about a 10-15 horsepower difference if your lucky, so that would put you at 170- 175hp, just like my SVT Focus, I run 15.8's all day, so how you figure you run 14.8's a whole second faster than me? I watch modded stock EP hatches run low 16's in San Diego all day at Carlsbad raceway.

MoodySi

10-14-2002, 09:39 AM

Let's see that timeslip!!!!!!

rocket_civic

10-14-2002, 10:36 AM

blacksvt, not to be an ass but a lot has to do with driver abilty. YOu put someone in a modded si that has no clue how to drive and make an exact car go against it with a better driver i guarantee the other driver will kick his ass.

here are the times in the order i ran them, granted some are shitty runs because of stupid mistakes on my part like missing shifts cause of crappy sincros and having trouble at the line

1--15.479 @89.78
2-- 15.847 @89.43
3-- 15.552 @88.95
4-- 15.239 @89.54
5-- 16.457 @80.91
6-- 15.218 @90.57
7-- 15.288 @90.01
8-- 16.196 @89.83
9-- 15.119 @90.65
10--15.107 @91.14
11-- 14.849 @91.93
12-- 15.808 @91.06
13-- 15.771 @90.93
14-- 15.042 @91.25

As i said i'll post slips as soon as i get out of school today which is at 4.

blacksvt

10-14-2002, 10:44 AM

Thats fine and all, but a header, intake and exhaust isn't really anything super, like I said 10 - 15 horsepower if your lucky, your not gonna have to do anything special driver-wise because of those mods, I've watched about 3 different guys who know how to drive get mid-high 15's low 16's with those mods, so its hard for me to believe just because you may be a good driver you can get 14.8 quarter mile, if you did, kudos for you, your the only one to get those times for those mods. If you have NOS or if you have a supercharger or turbo, or internal engine work done, then yes, you'll have to learn how to drive your car correctly, but basic exhaust/intake/headers just help your car breathe better and thats it. ;)

Golfzilla

10-14-2002, 10:57 AM

It's possible. Rememeber, it's a RACE header = more power.
Plus, the track could be prepped very good. I see SE-R's do mid-high 15's here all the time with 2.29 60' and 16's for an Si are AWESOME :p

It's all in the track, weather, and driver.

blacksvt

10-14-2002, 11:07 AM

Race header? LOL, a header is a header, theres no "MORE POWER" from a race header, the header allows exhaust to escape out of the engine faster and thats all it does, theres no boost control on it or anything like that, a header is a header. I still don't believe he ran a 14.8. No way. :)

Golfzilla

10-14-2002, 11:32 AM

Well, there is the short header, and the racing
(no cat) long one. It's hard to believe (I don't know what to think), but you never know until you show your slips (hint, hint Si boy)

blacksvt

10-14-2002, 11:35 AM

Yeah, if he can provide some solid proof, then I will stand corrected, but I've been racing Honda's and Mutangs for 10 years now, and I know what mods can do for a car. ;)

02blksi

10-14-2002, 11:40 AM

"170- 175hp, just like my SVT Focus, I run 15.8's all day, so how you figure you run 14.8's a whole second faster than me?"

easy, get this:

HE DRIVES BETTER THAN YOU :)

02SilverSiHB

10-14-2002, 11:48 AM

Originally posted by rocket_civic
blacksvt, not to be an ass but a lot has to do with driver abilty. YOu put someone in a modded si that has no clue how to drive and make an exact car go against it with a better driver i guarantee the other driver will kick his ass.

here are the times in the order i ran them, granted some are shitty runs because of stupid mistakes on my part like missing shifts cause of crappy sincros and having trouble at the line

1--15.479 @89.78
2-- 15.847 @89.43
3-- 15.552 @88.95
4-- 15.239 @89.54
5-- 16.457 @80.91
6-- 15.218 @90.57
7-- 15.288 @90.01
8-- 16.196 @89.83
9-- 15.119 @90.65
10--15.107 @91.14
11-- 14.849 @91.93
12-- 15.808 @91.06
13-- 15.771 @90.93
14-- 15.042 @91.25

As i said i'll post slips as soon as i get out of school today which is at 4.
hhhmmmm. maybe you got lucky. I guess your a better driver than I :(

blacksvt

10-14-2002, 11:54 AM

Originally posted by 02blksi
"170- 175hp, just like my SVT Focus, I run 15.8's all day, so how you figure you run 14.8's a whole second faster than me?"

easy, get this:

HE DRIVES BETTER THAN YOU :)

http://www.trdpickup.com/stuff/funny/richard.jpg

kc2480

10-14-2002, 12:00 PM

14.8 is a pretty ridiculous number, however he might be a good driver to get that time. Keep in mind that there are so many other factors involved in the times that one extraordinary time isn't all impossible.

My other car is a 01 E46 M3, and given my inexperience, i would expect my times to be in the 14s. With the Si...gosh in the 17s maybe? hahaha.

We should see the slip before any bashing goes on.

02blksi

10-14-2002, 12:01 PM

http://www.trdpickup.com/stuff/funny/richard.jpg

blacksvt so you are openly admitting that you are GAY? and have secret sexual fantasies that has been brought out by me posting that he is a better driver than you?

im flattered! --joe who likes his almond joys WITHOUT nuts!

blacksvt

10-14-2002, 12:08 PM

blacksvt so you are openly admitting that you are GAY? and have secret sexual fantasies that has been brought out by me posting that he is a better driver than you?

im flattered! --joe who likes his almond joys WITHOUT nuts! [/B][/QUOTE]

http://www.trdpickup.com/stuff/funny/Nohomo.jpg

02blksi

10-14-2002, 12:09 PM

thanks.

Now do humanity a favor and kill yourself.

Fuggin fuckus drivers -- :confused:

blacksvt

10-14-2002, 12:12 PM

Relax my friend. Just having some forum fun! :D

rocket_civic

10-14-2002, 12:16 PM

I promise you that if my gf has her scanner up and running(which the she is supposed to) i'll post my slips and show is no bs. Right now i'm at apprenticeship school and all i can do right now is pull the slips out of my pocket and admire them as i sit here and wait till 4 when i get out.

02SilverSiHB

10-14-2002, 12:19 PM

Originally posted by rocket_civic
I promise you that if my gf has her scanner up and running(which the she is supposed to) i'll post my slips and show is no bs. Right now i'm at apprenticeship school and all i can do right now is pull the slips out of my pocket and admire them as i sit here and wait till 4 when i get out.
fuck work, go home! ;)

02blksi

10-14-2002, 12:21 PM

"Relax my friend. Just having some forum fun! "

SAME HERE :) --joe

rocket_civic

10-14-2002, 12:23 PM

Well i'll post as soon as i get home, time to get back to class.

TEKBRAIN

10-14-2002, 12:51 PM

Why not?

QuickSiR: 14.984 @ 92.509 (Honda Civic SiR 99 "stock")

Glix

10-14-2002, 12:58 PM

Because Miamijdm running I/H/E with a 50 shot of NOS could barely break into the 14's.

Because HASPORT running I/H/E with a 200 HP Type S Swap into an EP can barely break into the 14's. (14.98)

It's bullshit, I give a rats ass if your al uncer jr your not pulling 14's in an SI with simple bolt ons.

SmoothOperator

10-14-2002, 12:58 PM

I believe it...I want to see the slips though too! Just for "shits 'n' giggles"

blacksvt

10-14-2002, 01:09 PM

Originally posted by Glix
Because Miamijdm running I/H/E with a 50 shot of NOS could barely break into the 14's.

Because HASPORT running I/H/E with a 200 HP Type S Swap into an EP can barely break into the 14's. (14.98)

It's bullshit, I give a rats ass if your al uncer jr your not pulling 14's in an SI with simple bolt ons.

BINGO!!!! Come on now, there is NO way you can pull 14's on a stock 160hp vehicle with an exhaust, header and intake. LOL. This guy just wants some attention, its okay, we all fib once in awhile. :D

CleanBlackSi02

10-14-2002, 01:17 PM

::anxiously awaiting slips::

TEKBRAIN

10-14-2002, 01:26 PM

Originally posted by blacksvt

BINGO!!!! Come on now, there is NO way you can pull 14's on a stock 160hp vehicle with an exhaust, header and intake. LOL. This guy just wants some attention, its okay, we all fib once in awhile. :D

Why not?

QuickSiR: 14.984 @ 92.509 (Honda Civic SiR 99 "stock")

blacksvt

10-14-2002, 01:30 PM

Originally posted by TEKBRAIN

Why not?

QuickSiR: 14.984 @ 92.509 (Honda Civic SiR 99 "stock")

Sure buddy!!!!!!

http://www.trdpickup.com/stuff/funny/knightstroke.jpg

fASTBACK

10-14-2002, 01:44 PM

Thats a damn good time! Kind of gets me wondering though?? There are lots of factors that could get you this time, but hassport and miamijdm are barely making it with BIG upgrades. I would like to see the slips please.

SmoothOperator

10-14-2002, 01:45 PM

Gary Coleman's one badass mofo.

TEKBRAIN

10-14-2002, 01:53 PM

@blacksvt: Sorry if the truth hurts you.

By the way, launching is an art: Rev to 5000-6000, slipping of clutch, use of handbrake. Deflated front tires, some weight reduction, etc.
Try this and tell me again that these times are not possible...

ep3guy

10-14-2002, 01:54 PM

wow.... now where are those damn slips!?!??! :D

blacksvt

10-14-2002, 02:13 PM

Originally posted by TEKBRAIN
@blacksvt: Sorry if the truth hurts you.

By the way, launching is an art: Rev to 5000-6000, slipping of clutch, use of handbrake. Deflated front tires, some weight reduction, etc.
Try this and tell me again that these times are not possible...

Like Glix said "Because Miamijdm running I/H/E with a 50 shot of NOS could barely break into the 14's.

Because HASPORT running I/H/E with a 200 HP Type S Swap into an EP can barely break into the 14's. (14.98)

It's bullshit, I give a rats ass if your al uncer jr your not pulling 14's in an SI with simple bolt ons.

Exactly! that petty crap does not make a 16 second car run in the 14's no matter how good a driver you are and that bs about deflating tires, like I said...I've been drag racing Honda's to Mustangs for 10 years now, and I'm telling you the truth. Its BS! If you believe that guy, than your the ignorant one who doesn't know jack about drag racing, and thats just how it is.

P.S. What the hell does use of a handbrake have to do with 1/4 mile times? LOL.

2fastcivic

10-14-2002, 02:34 PM

there was a vid on superhonda showing a 99-00 civic si w/ only an aem cold air intake running a 14.9. so it is possible if the guy did run the 14.84.

blacksvt

10-14-2002, 02:42 PM

DAMN! I'm gonna go out and get the AEM CAI for my buddy's SI so he can be in the 14's too! He's a good driver so I know that 5 extra horsepower will put him the 14's for sure! One word for you ignorant fools that believe this guy.

http://www.trdpickup.com/stuff/funny/lame.gif

iR-VTEC2

10-14-2002, 02:44 PM

WHERE ARE THE SLIPS OF TIME?!?!!?

02blksi

10-14-2002, 02:58 PM

blacksvt, please stop posting those beat to death forum pics, there lame, just like your posts.

GLIX - you sure are hell bent on trying to prove everything positive about the EP wrong! Jesus WHO really gives two shits what he ran, great! i dont give a shit if he's lying or not, he says he ran those times i believe him. Its the fucking internet buddy, you gotta relax man, christ, it seems like you lose sleep over this shit. Calmn down, BREATHE, put the gun away. --joe who wonders why EVERYONE is so hell bent against this guy..

ps- and quite frankly i can see it now, even IF rocketcivic posts the time slips you are going to call bullshit. I can see it now. Some people can drive better than others. Shit look at honda tuning, they ran a vortech supercharged GSR with all the boltons aftercooler and all and could only muster a 14.95 1/4 !!!!!! the car put down 272 whp on the dyno !!!! ITS ALL IN THE DRIVER MY FRIEND, not saying rocketcivic is telling the truth (although i have no reason to not believe him) Just saying give him the benefit of the doubt . Just cause you dont believe it doesnt mean its not true! ---

IceD out N CALI

10-14-2002, 03:06 PM

post the slip, so the hecklers can calm down a bit

rocket_civic

10-14-2002, 03:07 PM

working on the slips as we speak.

does anyone know how to take a emailed pic and post it one here?
i just got back from my gf house and she scanned the slip, but now i dont know how to put it on here.

02blksi

10-14-2002, 03:13 PM

send the pic to me ill host it and therefore provide a link to it in my response.
my email:
rawdigga@hotmail.com

edit: let me know when/if you have sent it

SmoothOperator

10-14-2002, 03:13 PM

download the pics to your hard drive, then upload them to a host (imgstudio), then link them.

iR-VTEC2

10-14-2002, 03:14 PM

PM me. Ill host those pics for ya. Just email them to me. :D

TEKBRAIN

10-14-2002, 03:17 PM

Originally posted by blacksvt

P.S. What the hell does use of a handbrake have to do with 1/4 mile times? LOL.

I don't know, but people using it can do a 16.2 with a Civic LX stock (115hp) on the

blacksvt

10-14-2002, 03:24 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by TEKBRAIN
[B]

I don't know, but people using it can do a 16.2 with a Civic LX stock (115hp) on the

Mr.02BlackSIguY

10-14-2002, 03:36 PM

dang... good shit rocket civic. 14s .. i guess u prove all that doubted you.

02blksi

10-14-2002, 03:44 PM

"P.S. What the hell does use of a handbrake have to do with 1/4 mile times? LOL. "

Let me take a stab at this one since i have done this.

the theory around this is that you can use the handbrake and almost "brake torque" a manual like an automatic , where your foots on the brake and the gas, builinding pressure against your torque converter--automatic--, therefore as soon as you let go of the gas in theory there wont be any lag from the point you take off. net result a better 60 ft time!

so basically as follows:
Stage first and second yellow light lit on the tree
clutch in 1st gear selected
right hand on ebrake locking rear wheels up
slowly releasing more clutch and adding more gas at the same time (--manually brake torquing, loading the engine) all the while holding the ebrake engaged.
last yellow lites up
release handbrake and clutch simotaneously while pressing the acclerator more... thats it! --joe

confusing until you try it.

TEKBRAIN

10-14-2002, 04:03 PM

Thanks 02blksi for the good explanation.
The have good times with this method, but they need to change their clutches often...:rolleyes:

JSIR

10-14-2002, 04:13 PM

I'm willing to give the guy the benefit of the doubt, I think it is possible, besides its in Wisconsin. In Wisconsin as well as my part of the world it is just a few degrees above freezing some nights, makes for good 1/4 mile runs, particularly on our cars which are so temperature sensitive. I wouldnt say his car is running 14's consistently, far from the truth, low 15's are probably the more consistent of all the runs, but still good numbers IMO.

There have been a couple guys running in the 14's, the lowest I've seen was 14.7, that was with basic bolt ons and drag radials.

Anyhow, getting back to the post, was there any difference in the way you launched that last run to get you the best run of the night ?, do you remember doing anything different. I have yet to take mine to the track , I wouldn't mind hearing what worked best for you in terms of launches.

thanks.

rocket_civic

10-14-2002, 04:19 PM

i launched at 3500 rpm, front tire pressure 27, rear pressure at 45, it was about 45-50 degrees out, umm...i didnt use any special e-brake method or anything, i was racing a Z06 corvette so i really wanted to do good, and yes my car was running consistent low 15's, mostly 15.2's at 2200rpm launches, then i ran 15.1's at 2700 rpm launches.
The reason for the different launches is because of the fact of the cam changing going on at 2700 rpm i didnt want a lot of tire hop like i did last time at the track.

02SilverSiHB

10-14-2002, 04:22 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by TEKBRAIN
[B]

I don't know, but people using it can do a 16.2 with a Civic LX stock (115hp) on the

JSIR

10-14-2002, 04:24 PM

thanks for the quick reply, and the tip on launching, sounds like a good spot to launch at in terms of the rpm band. I remember on my 99 SiR, we all had to launch at 5000+ rpms just to get a decent 60 ft, this car should be much easier to launch. Disregard my other reply in your other post. congrats on the great run.

TEKBRAIN

10-14-2002, 04:57 PM

Originally posted by 02SilverSiHB

man, those times for the zo6 sucks. I saw them hit 12's all day at the track on friday

The timeslip that I posted is from a Civic SiR 99, not the Rocket's timeslip. :P I don't know what's the other car on the slip...

miamijdm

10-14-2002, 06:31 PM

I think it's safe to say that Im one of the members that has had plenty of track time in an ep.. Most of my runs have been on nitrous, but it's very hard to swallow the fact that an ep with minor mods is running that hard. I consider myself to be a very good driver. I've driven 10 sec cars before, and I can't see an ep pulling those trap speeds. I don't care what techniques there are for launching, but more than 87 or 88 mph is hard to believe.. just my .02 cents.

02SilverSiHB

10-14-2002, 06:34 PM

Originally posted by miamijdm
I think it's safe to say that Im one of the members that has had plenty of track time in an ep.. Most of my runs have been on nitrous, but it's very hard to swallow the fact that an ep with minor mods is running that hard. I consider myself to be a very good driver. I've driven 10 sec cars before, and I can't see an ep pulling those trap speeds. I don't care what techniques there are for launching, but more than 87 or 88 mph is hard to believe.. just my .02 cents.
yeah he's full of it

Golfzilla

10-15-2002, 05:38 AM

Ok, let me just give a little insight on what happened once at my track...

I was racing my Focus ZX3. I had my rear seats out, and CAI only. Well, I staged good, with a .509 R/T, and the 60' was decent. When at the end of the little "hut" (where they hand out the slips), I take my slip, and take a look at it. And guess what...Under the number 302, I see 15.2@92mph!! WTF? My car number was 302 (funny eh? Ford 302 engine... :) ) and there was NO WAY IN HELL an Focus ZX3 (allmost stock) was running 15.2, because I was doing mid-high 16's allmost everytime I went to the track. I looked at the slip 20 times, and the Mustang GT, that was running next to me, had the right time on it (14.6@96mph). I'm not bullshitting you guys. I used to use this slip to show my 99-00 Si friends what time I got at the track! It was hilarious. I wish it was true tho. Prolly some minor bug in the system.

atl-si

10-15-2002, 06:19 AM

Hey, where is the time slip?

atl-si

10-15-2002, 06:21 AM

Nevermind.....

ArcticBlueRsx

10-15-2002, 02:40 PM

i dunno..i just dont buy it..i think somewhere he says hes been running low low 15's consistently...but w/ just i/h/e...i just can't see that happening...unless he has a K20a2 head swap on it or something else we dont know about....

blacksvt

10-15-2002, 02:52 PM

I for sure don't believe it, in fact I KNOW its not true, its probobly a computer error, but anyways I'm not gonna call anyone a liar so...

rocket_civic

10-15-2002, 05:11 PM

If i have video will that shut everyone up?

:D

iR-VTEC2

10-15-2002, 05:50 PM

I saw a fuckin Type S STOCK to 14.5 and another one do 17's.

SVT......i saw a car like YOURS do 15 fuckin 2 STOCK. You could not possibly KNOW.

ive been involved in racing for TWENTY years. and im STILL learning. We ALL are. NO ONE "knows all". I've learned that car's come from the factory in 3 forms.

1) Spec
2) Above Spec
3) Below Spec.

Sometimes you get a faster one than everyone else. Sometimes you get a doodoo one.

You dont KNOW. YOU...only assume.

I agree that its far fetched but IHE does enable for about 20 Wheel hp in the new Si. If his car is above spec like say....149hp then he'd have about 170 hp and thats awesome.

He busted a timeslip...good enough for me. If he's a liar...then may be burn in eternal acid while he's got the munchies like a muthafucka and twinkies are JUST beyond his reach while naked chicks dance in front of him PRETENDING to take off their clothes and show them large boobies. :D

ArcticBlueRsx

10-15-2002, 05:58 PM

IHE does enable for about 20 Wheel hp in the new Si.
Really? thats a grip! Hmm...makes us wonder what Hondata can do for your cars too....the only thing i complain of is how fuzzy the timeslip is...rocket_civic..is there any way you can post up a clearer one? most of my doubts come from not being able to read the timeslip that cleary....oh..and a video would be nice too..hehe =)