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Stealth Wedgy
05-21-2004, 12:17 PM
Well my EP is at 20k. I bought it there, and didnt know poop about what it had been through. So i decided to do a top shelf tune up. Honda told me $200+ to do a 20,000mile inspection and tune-up. So i said F that.

Mobile 1....0w-20 = $30
K&N oil filter....= $11
NGK XI Plugs......= $7/x4 = $28
Knowing everything was done right and with the best aviablie parts

Priceless


LOL, just happy after tuning up my baby, anyone else think honda gets alittle retarded with their "check up" pricing?

Si3
05-21-2004, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by Stealth Wedgy
just happy after tuning up my baby, anyone else think honda gets alittle retarded with their "check up" pricing?

Yeah, $100+ for a tranny flush & $29.95 for an oil change at community honda... b.s.!!!

Doing it myself not only lets me know it was done right, but i get a sense of satisfaction!

-Aj-

Rwecked
05-21-2004, 12:31 PM
Wow! $30 USD for an oil change! You guys are getting hosed. I paid $28 CDN for mine at the dealer.

03SiGuy
05-21-2004, 12:34 PM
what kind of condition were your plugs in? im at 16,500 right now and at 20k i was thinking about checking them to see what kind of shape they were in. were they black or did they show any corosion?
how long are we supposed to wait to change them?

Sb00
05-21-2004, 12:34 PM
if you have a service manual it tells you exactily what "service" should be done to your car at 10,000 mile intervals :)

04SI27893
05-21-2004, 12:41 PM
5w20 oil is recomended for our cars, and you are saying that you used 0w20....is that just what you like.....the 0w20 is used in the civic hybrid.... this is just a question....thanks 04si27893:)

Tenacious G
05-21-2004, 12:57 PM
the 5w20 recommendation is more for emissions ... helps keep it down.

Stealth Wedgy
05-21-2004, 01:28 PM
Mobil 1's 0w-20 is spacfically designed for the newer honda motors. Plugs havent gone in yet, waiting for my buddy to bring them over.

Stoop
05-21-2004, 02:08 PM
Honda's recommendation for changing the spark plugs is 110,000 miles. This is because they are platinum plugs in the car - they last longer. You're just thowing your money away if you replace your plugs at 20,000 unless they are messed up for some odd reason.

VIPER03SI
05-21-2004, 02:24 PM
Yea i'm glad you said that stoopsi. I was about to say the same thing

Mr.02BlackSIguY
05-21-2004, 03:29 PM
i did a 20k inspection thingy for my ep at the dealer.. mine only cost 80 bucks or sumthin.. oil change and ish with inspection crap and free carwash. i thought THAT was a grip haha

Jay H
05-21-2004, 04:58 PM
Honda dealers make a ton of easy money on these "XX,XXX mile Service Intervals". O.K. Mr. Honda Dealer, if Honda's are so reliable (as they all tell us when we buy our cars), why do they need $200 20,000 mile services?

Big_T
05-21-2004, 05:44 PM
Does our car need a 15000 mile check. At Planet honda they told me I needed one and it will cost $275.

04rider
05-21-2004, 08:17 PM
So the warranty won't cover these service intervals.Might as well go to Jiffy lube.

04rider
05-21-2004, 08:29 PM
When I get back, I am going to run it till it dies,just like I did with my maxima with 245,000 miles.I still revlined that sucka when cold starting in the morning.Driving to work one morning, I was using my e-brake to brake because one of my calipers fell off a month before.I had to yank it hard this time to slow down after racing a spec-v. Then the car shut off and would not start ever again.Too bad I was on the freeway. I was rearended by a isuzu trooper who was rearended by a dakota who was almost rearended by a 18 wheeler.A week later, I got my Ep.:cool:





LOL, I would never treat my ep like that.I love her. :*

audomatik
05-21-2004, 10:09 PM
damn $30 for an oil change at the dealer... you are getting ripped. cost me $23 and they fill up all my fluids. i guess my dealer love me more than yours loves you... haha. need to get my shit inspected and emissionized soon.

StLouisSilverSI
05-22-2004, 03:48 AM
the service scheduels are why hondas remain reliable...they dont just replace parts on the tune up, they inspect the whole car to make sure nothing is wrong, just an FYI :)

todaCspec
05-22-2004, 06:27 AM
Originally posted by StoopSi
Honda's recommendation for changing the spark plugs is 110,000 miles. This is because they are platinum plugs in the car -


Platinum plugs were for B-series, Iridium plugs are for the K-series.

RMC22
05-22-2004, 11:39 AM
Originally posted by Si3
Yeah, $100+ for a tranny flush & $29.95 for an oil change at community honda... b.s.!!!

Doing it myself not only lets me know it was done right, but i get a sense of satisfaction!

-Aj-

$30 bucks at Community? You're getting hosed. The changes that I've gotten done there were $21.95.

ErikBrescher
05-22-2004, 12:10 PM
The service intervals/increments of our cars according to our manuals are for every 10k.... however, honda dealerships (at least the one i work at) runs the services at 7500 mile intervals.

for instance, you go in for a 10,000 mile service and you really get a 7500 mile service. But if you go in for a 20,000 mile service you will actually get a 7,500 mile because they are figuring that you are there for a 22,500 mile service (7500 * 3, they already figure you were there for a 15,000). Where it gets tricky is if you switch dealerships and you go in for a 20k, (but you should be getting a 15k) and you really get a 7500. Why's that a problem? The 15,000 mile service is a lot more thorough

Sorry to write in such a confusing manner.

I guess what this highlights is that honda manuals and honda service at dealerships don't always see eye-to-eye. 30,000 is the first large service that is offered; it's up to you, would you rather have your car serviced two or three times before your 30k?? As I see it, cars have never broken down from being over-serviced. ;-)

the giant ep3
05-22-2004, 04:49 PM
i work at a honda dealership and this is how it goes:
19.95 for an oil change with wash and 21 point inspection(here)

depending on your conditions as far as weather and driving goes you are either at 5,000 mile oil change inervals or 10,000 mile oil changes
for those with the 10k oil changes
every 20k rotate tires, inspect brake wear, inspect parking brake, inspect tie-rod ends, steering gearbox, and boots, suspension components, driveshaft boots, brake hoses and lines(including ABS), all fluid levels and conditions of fluids, exhaust system, fuel lines and connections.
so every 20k you should have them do all that. most of the time they will inspect some of that during an oil change
for us in the severe conditions we have a few things that are every 10k as well as every 20k, so consider yourself lucky.
plugs go at 110k and same with timing chain and valve adjustment

eurosteez
05-22-2004, 05:07 PM
How do you remove the CEL??????

I'm in your shoes too but I don't know how to get rid of the CEL.

amctmg
05-22-2004, 05:18 PM
Timing belt= chain on ep3
and we have iridium plugs which are the best most exspensive plugs you can get and they will last 100k even with hard driving

ErikBrescher
05-22-2004, 05:57 PM
the giant EP... are you a tech, a service writer, or a parts guy???

parts here :-)

the giant ep3
05-23-2004, 11:48 AM
negative i am a new car sales and leasing professional:confused:
try not to pigeon hole me though, i can already feel the flaming coming on.;)

ErikBrescher
05-23-2004, 01:36 PM
that's ok! I won't judge. Us parts guys get treated pretty bad by everyone... until they want something :-)

I'll go as far as to say that we sometimes deserve what we get. hehe

Anyway, nice to make your aquaintance.

the giant ep3
05-23-2004, 03:37 PM
i try to treat everyone at the dealership the same cause we all play an important role in the operations, but typically the parts, deatail and lot techs are treated with the least amount of respect unfortunately. I treat my parts guys well cause i will definitely need a hook up every now and then.

Jay H
05-24-2004, 06:49 AM
Originally posted by the giant ep3
i work at a honda dealership and this is how it goes:
19.95 for an oil change with wash and 21 point inspection(here)

every 20k rotate tires, inspect brake wear, inspect parking brake, inspect tie-rod ends, steering gearbox, and boots, suspension components, driveshaft boots, brake hoses and lines(including ABS), all fluid levels and conditions of fluids, exhaust system, fuel lines and connections.
so every 20k you should have them do all that. most of the time they will inspect some of that during an oil change
for us in the severe conditions we have a few things that are every 10k as well as every 20k, so consider yourself lucky.

Giant EP: I'm just curious and no disrespect is intended: Do you feel that all of these components get inspected during a service like this? Would the tech's take short cuts and skip looking at a few things if the shop is backed up?

Jay
03 Si

Loudpedal
05-24-2004, 07:03 AM
Honda service intervals are absurd. Really, I can rotate my own tires and lube my own door hinges...totally a rip off.

I'll change the fluids as per requried, but the rest of the shit is basically paying for nothing.

Jay H
05-24-2004, 07:28 AM
Originally posted by Loudpedal
Honda service intervals are absurd. Really, I can rotate my own tires and lube my own door hinges...totally a rip off.

I'll change the fluids as per requried, but the rest of the shit is basically paying for nothing.

I agree 100% that these services are a rip off IF you can do your own work. I do everything myself as well. But, if you are not mechanically inclined, have no room or don't have the time, then you have to pay up. It's better to pay for the service instead of neglecting the car. You can also over service a car as well. Do the routine maintenance when it is due and don't fix stuff that doesn't need fixing.

A good friend of mine pays the local VW dealer $300 to $400 every 10,000 miles to service his Jetta. All of his service trips are for simple stuff such as changing filters, oil, rotating tires and oiling hinges. Total rip off (Honda isn't the only one promoting extra services), but he won't do the work himself (too lazy and has no interest in cars). His cars are in good shape, but along with the depreciation and interest hit, he pays a lot of money to run his cars.