resale value of civic si [Archive]

CaTiRo

07-01-2004, 10:27 PM

wait a sec ... did you just say the coupe resale value is the same as the "new" hatchback si. :)

more people like coupes and i guess more people still love the b16. everytime i mention getting rid of my coupe for a new ep most people try and talk me out of it. i went to the dealer when i went to test drive the ep and the salesman told me that my si (00) is better and i should keep it. he kept going on and on about what he disliked about the ep. strange huh ... especially coming from a salesman.

civicSIracer

07-01-2004, 11:37 PM

ya i had a 00Si and w/ 52k and 3 years old i got almost 14 grand for it.. my poor ep is only like 13000 and its god damn a year old.

kenscivic

07-02-2004, 05:08 AM

resale value is all about the popularity of the vehicle and if im not mistaken only 15000 02 si's were sold compared to the older si's thats nothing. so yah know? if only 15k were bought new the first year how many wanna buy a used one right?

todaCspec

07-02-2004, 05:28 AM

Best time to sell will be when they discontinue the Ep. To pay $13g for 00 si is foolish, must be ricers or Mama's baby. I'd rather buy a $2g shell and do a swap. K-series is the way to go!

Si3

07-02-2004, 06:28 AM

Agreed. while the b16 is a great application, K series is the wy of the future. Out with old, in with the new!!

kenscivic

07-02-2004, 06:33 AM

go k series , rumor has it the 2005 models gonna be supercharged .

Lestat537

07-02-2004, 07:09 AM

go k series , rumor has it the 2005 models gonna be supercharged .

Honda has never released a forced induction production car. What makes you think they're going to start?

Fast02

07-02-2004, 07:30 AM

Honda has never released a forced induction production car. What makes you think they're going to start?

That's why it's called a rumor :p ;)

Anyways, I was going to trade my car in, and they offered me $13,000 for my car. I'm sure if I were to sell it myself I could get more than what they offered ;)

Si3

07-02-2004, 07:30 AM

Honda has never released a forced induction production car. What makes you think they're going to start?

actually they've released 9....

All went directly to the Indy circut! :D ;)

kenscivic

07-02-2004, 07:55 AM

Honda has never released a forced induction production car. What makes you think they're going to start?

achually the released a turbocharged civic in australlia one year

and yes its just a rumor , but you have to think it'd be the smart thing to do so it can keep up with the srt 4 and the other lil cars like htat

Deluxe

07-02-2004, 08:48 AM

I feel the EP will be a classic collectors item..For a couple reasons...

1) Unique...One of the only Hondas that I know of that is exclusively made in England..

2) Only SI that had a body style unlike anything else in the model line..All the older Si's shared their body styles with other civics..I.e 88-91, 92-95, 99-00 etc

3) Did not make that many to begin with

4) Last year of production..

I am very happy with my white 04...I have owned every Si that was ever produced..The EP represents my 8th hatch, and in many ways I feel it is the best hatch Honda has ever produced..Although you have to love the 92-95's also ;)

Si3

07-02-2004, 08:58 AM

I have owned every Si that was ever produced..The EP represents my 8th hatch, and in many ways I feel it is the best hatch Honda has ever produced..Although you have to love the 92-95's also ;)

Got pics of the full collection? Would love a little Si Timeline!! :D

03silverEP

07-02-2004, 09:08 AM

the only recent F.I. honda is the mid 80's Honda City Turbo-II, Smaller than a Fit/Jazz 2-dr hatch.

but yeah, it's sucks that an old Si w/50,xxx is worth as much as our 1 year old cars

bloodzombie

07-02-2004, 12:52 PM

People who bought the 99/00 si's might've gotten the best bargain ever... how much were they new? Seems like they can drive it for 5 years and then get most of their money back.

STP03BlueSI

07-02-2004, 01:08 PM

1million dollars...well atleast to me...because I could careless about the resale value, all i care is that I have one and plan on keepin it for a long time.

I love my EP:angelm:

Fast02

07-02-2004, 01:10 PM

1million dollars...well atleast to me...because I could careless about the resale value, all i care is that I have one and plan on keepin it for a long time.

I love my EP:angelm:

Well said!! :)

SiOnTheFly

07-02-2004, 01:20 PM

99'-00' si's are cool.....and played out! the ep is the most unplayed out car honda has ever created! YOU GOTTA LOVE THE EP3!

ecsahs3

07-02-2004, 01:29 PM

99'-00' si's are cool.....and played out! the ep is the most unplayed out car honda has ever created! YOU GOTTA LOVE THE EP3!

true. and most people don't recognize it as a civic. they think it's an electric vehicle. :tongue:

Satin 2k2 Si

07-02-2004, 03:48 PM

99/00 Si are too popular, I dont know why, but I tried to get one in 2002. 30,000mi and the dealer still wanted $17,000. I think alot people just don't like the shape of our car. I got to admit when I first bought mine I was skeptical, but compared to the regular civic I couldn't do worse. With the correct mods the EP could be very appealing and does not have to be a shit load of money either. Those 99/00 Si are ready to be put to sleep. Everyone that has one probably dogged the engine and car thieves love that car. Honda bringing back the coupe in 2005 and discontinue the hatch. Need to stop driving my car for while to keep the value up. Bought a 02 in 2003, a layover. Owe $3000 above trade-in value. Not getting another Si but trying to step it up to a rear-wheel or all-wheel drive car.

plpong893

07-03-2004, 04:54 AM

the only recent F.I. honda is the mid 80's Honda City Turbo-II, Smaller than a Fit/Jazz 2-dr hatch.

but yeah, it's sucks that an old Si w/50,xxx is worth as much as our 1 year old cars

isnt there a honda jetski with a turbo

redronin22

07-03-2004, 06:43 AM

i think the jdm market tested a turbo legend back in 85-86.

Si3

07-03-2004, 08:02 AM

isnt there a honda jetski with a turbo

Yep, and its crazy!!! My friends parents have one, the thing is insane!!

DarkSiRacer

07-03-2004, 10:52 AM

Give it time... As popularity increases and the number of EP's decreases, it will be a good market,

element2050

07-03-2004, 11:09 AM

The si is coming up in vaule and demand/ From what I understand this year is the last year for it and with all the new parts coming out for it i think it will go up/Plus theres lots of companies that are building up are cars!

FiL

07-03-2004, 11:52 AM

EP3's are getting more popular now. When I bought my car last year, I saw one ep3 on the road maybe twice a month. Now sometimes I see 3 a day. I guess it's bitter sweet to see more ep's since it wont be as unique but will have a better resale market later on.

SilverBulletEp3

07-03-2004, 01:32 PM

The 99-00 Si was a dog as far as new car sales... AT FIRST... they were giving them away sort of the same way they did with ours when they were new. The cult hit of that car hit around 2001. If you think about it, we're on a similar timeline... if you have an 02, you bought it in 03. (mid-year euro calendar model) it's 04 now. We're only 2 years into the game. I'm banking on something similar happening with our EP3. They are a GREAT car. period. They have graced the cover of SOOO many tuner mags. The people who have been putting em down have been secretly waiting til they are cheap enough to snag one for themselves. Let's see what happens when they stop importing them... All those parts are out there, and chances are there will STILL be an overseas counterpart sold (meaning PARTS!!). I know lots of people that really do want one. But the sticker shock and limited availability is why they haven't sold that many. It was an experiment by honda to see how this UK arangement would work out, they never intended it to be a mass-market hit - they knew how few they'd produce, and in some ways I think they even toned down the actual design to keep it from getting too crazy. Nothing unintentional is happening here.

All said, we have a unique, great car - that thieves aren't nearly as interested in stealing at the moment, as your mainstream civic coupes (you have an si coupe? oh I'm sorry it's just been stolen - again). And in the game of standing out by being different, we have a major winner.

2.25CrushBent

07-03-2004, 04:40 PM

Sorry to jack this thread but bloodzombie your signature is appalling.....

God damn republicans.... :mad:

CaTiRo

07-03-2004, 07:44 PM

well, i'm glad resale for the em1 are still high. honda should have offered the ep standard with the hfp package. or even made our si look like the type r. even if they keep the same k20a3 engine i think if the si came with either the hfp package or the type r kit as standard equipment more and more people would of bought them. but then again, if they had release the 02+ si as a coupe instead of hatchback you guys would probably have high resale like the em1. americans don't love hatchbacks like the rest of the world. thats why we don't have the ep2 over here.

quick question .... there is an ep2 with the d-series motor in it and there is the ep3 with the k20 motor in it. is there a ep1?

siver-SI

07-03-2004, 08:17 PM

If you think are car is bad go my GM. My grand-am I bought in 2000 that had a sticker of $20,225 had a trade in value of $8,900 two years latter. The SI is now 2 years old and was stickered at $19,250 and the trade in is $12,300. So I am not complaining one bit.

Videodrone

07-03-2004, 09:04 PM

Yeah GM = BAD. No resale value on those babies. It's obvious too. I test drove a Saturn Ion Redline for the hell of it (I just asked him to open the door to see the inside and he said "lets go drive it") and i tell you, it's a piece of crap. The interior is kind of funky and all the materials say cheap. Even the Recaro seats, while comfty, are made of the cheapest stuff around. Not only that, but the supercharger sucks. The car has a redline of... 6500 i believe, but the charger cuts out at about 5. Even when it is boosting, it's not that awesome of a rush. I remember test driving the Si and as soon as I got on the road I loved the thing. Plenty of pull from the engine and nice looks. The Si will come around....

yellerep3

07-04-2004, 12:02 AM

REsale value, this is one of the stupidest things i have ever heard of!!!!! Last i checked hondas last for eva man. I have a friend with a 90 accord with 200,000 plus on the dash, religous oil changes of course, and it still purrs like a kitten, i think i will keep mine, and it will become a beater for my s2000! Honda power forever.......literally lol!

penguin

07-04-2004, 12:10 AM

I was just quoted 14k trade-in on an Evo for my 03 Si with 10k miles. Too bad my payoff is a few thousand more. We Ep3 owners are the next phase in Si owners, IMHO. The K series represents the new direction for Honda as well as a large rift in the B vs. K talk (which we PLEASE won't get into here...lol). I bought mine off the showroom floor in April this year with 13 miles on it for 15k. As I see it, you either hate our car or love it. I think we Ep3 owners are going to be a unique group unlike the prior Si owners. Just such a large leap in technology and styling. However, as the market seems to show now, there will be no lack of aftermarket support for tuning and asthetics. The great thing is, we have the "limited run" Si. So in a few years, look back at all of this and say that you were the ones to start the new trends.

BTW, if you want to talk about bad resale. Bought a 97 626 ES V6 (loaded) in 2001 for 13k. In 2002....8k resale (in PERFECT condition, which mine wasn't). I had to trade it in this year. I got an awesome trade in for it on my Si, but the normal value (under 90k miles) was about 4k...

Videodrone

07-04-2004, 12:18 AM

BTW, if you want to talk about bad resale. Bought a 97 626 ES V6 (loaded) in 2001 for 13k. In 2002....8k resale (in PERFECT condition, which mine wasn't). I had to trade it in this year. I got an awesome trade in for it on my Si, but the normal value (under 90k miles) was about 4k...

No one wants a Mazda either :smilem: :D

freidaddy

07-04-2004, 01:58 AM

Ill_eagle94

07-04-2004, 11:10 AM

Honda has never released a forced induction production car. What makes you think they're going to start?

wrong!

http://www.honda.co.jp/factbook/auto/CITY/19831026/

spork1313

07-05-2004, 06:28 AM

If y'all got offered 13 or 14 grand for your hatch, you'd better take it. NADA and Kelly blue book trade in is 10,500 for an 02 with average miles. My local dealer has 6 brand new hatches and a couple of 03's. I traded mine for an S 2000. I got 11,000 for my ep3.

whitecivicsi02

07-05-2004, 07:25 AM

go k series , rumor has it the 2005 models gonna be supercharged .

i thought they discountiue the ep's in 04

Oshkosh

07-05-2004, 08:07 AM

well i tried getting a 99-00 Si back in 2002 because i thought it was the coolest car. when i went to the dealer he was like "u can get a new 02 Si for pretty much the same amount u would pay for a used 99-00 Si coupe. so they had one on the dealership floor. i looked at it and it was like "ok" so i still wasnt convinced, when i drove it i was like "hell yea this is the car for me" i did the paperwork on it same day, picked it up 2 days later. do i regret it "HELL NO" i love my EP. i dont care about the resale value ima have that car for a very long time.

SONIC SI

07-05-2004, 08:13 AM

Damn you think since it's a Honda it would have a higher resale value then most other cars. I am planning on trading in my EP soon for a Tacoma. I just hope they are willing to give me at least 14k to 15k for it. What sucks is they don't even list the 04's on NADA or Kelly Blue book yet.

02NJHondaep3

07-05-2004, 08:28 AM

STP03BlueSI

07-05-2004, 10:04 AM

I love my EP :kissm: :m: :winkm: :angelm:

Videodrone

07-05-2004, 03:59 PM

I heard a rumor SiR's are coming to the states.

but the new civic si supposedly is 200hp, 6 speed 3 inches wider and longer.

Honda is working on a K24 turbo model as well.

dont quote me and this is really in the wrong section. I try not to think about

resale value. As long as i have fun driving the life out of my car.

Next Si is 200 hp? Unless they're gonna replace the RSX Type S too or boost it's HP rating I doubt it. Honda doesn't want to make competition against the Type S, especially if the Si is supposed to be the cheaper of the two. My guess its around 180hp for the next Si.

CaTiRo

07-06-2004, 07:39 AM

if honda want the si to become the "leader" again in the sports compact segment then they will need 200 hp. and it would be great if they used a k24. if they put that in a coupe si sales would sky-rocket. and for people that don't want a "civic" they can still get the rsx type s. i definately don't see honda putting f/i in their production civic. and why would they? they can work magic on their little displacement engines. they can get 240hp out of the k24 pretty easy without the NEED of a turbo or supercharger.

Buckeye34

07-06-2004, 08:53 PM

i have a 1992 honda accord EX sedan 5 speed that just rolled over 200,000 miles a couple of weeks ago, back in may i put it up for sale just for the hell of it, to see how much i could get. I listed it for 4,500 and i had 4 people call me asking if i still had it because they would pay cash for it. Anyways what im trying to say is that a honda is a honda and they will always be in demand

SONIC SI

07-07-2004, 05:40 AM

They finally list the 04's on Kelly Blue book now. At least mine is still worth about $15,000 as a trade in.

stephen

07-08-2004, 10:57 AM

99-00 Civic Si's are expensive because they all get stolen.

LiLxKeNnY

07-08-2004, 11:10 AM

omg ... a timeline of 8 gens of si's will be badass ... i like my ep a lot ... n i dont plan on selling it

Tomek

07-08-2004, 03:19 PM

I think once the aftermarket for the k-series cars really blows up, I'm talking like how b seires are now, the ep's will become a hot commodity(sp?). They are the chepaest of the cars compared to the rsx-s & tsx, parts from the rsx-s are pretty interchangable, not to mention the plethora of ctr parts that can be found, its a hatchback, and not as easily found as the rsx's or even tsx's are.

Yes the resale value is super high on the em1's but they came out right around the time when the b-series motors really became very popular stateside(we all know it was the first and only usdm civic with a b series) . The ep's value is dropping faster but I think the value will level off some eventually and stay quite stable.

HondaMan

07-08-2004, 04:22 PM

Sold my 2002 EP w/ 21,600 miles 2 weeks ago for $12,500...that is about top dollar ($13k) right for it. Car Max only offered me $9,600 that was a major low-ball on their part...all because it had some mods (suspension & intake)...they supposedly only want to buy all stock cars...blah...blah. :rolleyes: Also, $9.6k is the wholesale price.

wh03lse

04-24-2008, 12:53 PM

^ i was lookin to trading in my car too *looking at 4 door si sedan*
did ur trade in have any defects on the paint or dents... blemishes?

Riv Civ

04-24-2008, 01:00 PM

That last post was about 4 years ago mang... :mconfused:

Rep

04-24-2008, 01:05 PM

^ i was lookin to trading in my car too *looking at 4 door si sedan*
Come get mine! $17,500.

ep3dan

04-24-2008, 07:43 PM

i have an '04 with only 41xxx miles on her. i hope the resale value stays high and well with gas prices going up it probably will.

dmon

04-24-2008, 08:18 PM

yea the 04 threads should be locked. get irritating when you see a thread, and sounds real interesting. then next thing you know it its 4 yrs old...

ep3dan

04-24-2008, 08:21 PM

yea the 04 threads should be locked. get irritating when you see a thread, and sounds real interesting. then next thing you know it its 4 yrs old...

very true but since its there why not post?

element2050

04-25-2008, 05:17 PM

^ i was lookin to trading in my car too *looking at 4 door si sedan*
did ur trade in have any defects on the paint or dents... blemishes?

Damn blast from the past. I haven't logged in since "You last visited: 07-19-2004" lol Sold my Civic in 2006 for I think 15500. Thank god EP3 worst resale civic ever.

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/235461

My Civic (http://www.cardomain.com/ride/235461)