differences between Preface and Facelift UKDM EP3s

[nickyboy]

Preface on left, Facelift (Premier) on the right

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b235/nickyboy28/08032008310.jpg

First up, the front. Different headlights (the preface are notoriously bad), different shape bottom half of bumper, smaller H badge and smaller grille on the preface cars

Old http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b235/nickyboy28/DSC01410.jpg

New
The facelift got projector headlights, and the mirrors have more triangular edges instead of squared off
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b235/nickyboy28/08032008317.jpg

The side view. Preface has indicators in the front wings, in the new they are in the mirrors.

Old http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b235/nickyboy28/28022008309.jpg

New
Facelift sits 15mm lower
This car being the `Premier` version means it comes with tinted windows

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b235/nickyboy28/08032008311.jpg

Now the back. The facelift has different light clusters

Preface http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b235/nickyboy28/30012008298.jpg

Facelift http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b235/nickyboy28/08032008313.jpg

Next up, interior. The preface cars come with a grey and black interior, including a grey carpet, and grey inserts on the seats and doorcards

preface http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b235/nickyboy28/oldinterior.jpg

whilst the facelift comes with a red and black interior. Also a brighter shade of silver on the centre of the dashboard, silver electric window switches instead of black, chrome handles on the vents, and generally replaced grey plastics with jet black. My car being the Premier means it comes with Recaro race seats instead of the Honda ones, and also a red carpet, and a MOMO 1 piece leather steering wheel, with MOMO engraved in the bottom portion (same as DC5 and JDM EP3)

Premier http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b235/nickyboy28/08032008324.jpg

Engine wise, the facelift benefits from a lightened flywheel, reducing the 0-60 time from 6.6 to 6.4 seconds.
The suspension and steering has also been revised. The steering in the preface feels very vague, an issue which has been rectified somewhat, but due to electric steering and not hydraulic, it is still not perfect
Extra sound deadening was added so the car doesn`t sound so raw when thrashing it
The Premier version has the `TYPE R ` symbol engraved on the front brake calipers
There is also an outside temperature gauge on the facelift models, and an audible warning to tell you seat belt is disconnected (annoying)

[vbp04]

Great INFO , THANKs

[nickyboy]

no problem

i posted this thread before as there was some confustion between UK and JDM type R`s

[Princess]

Thank you, that's very informative. I see people on the http://www.civictype-r.co.uk/forum talking about facelift and pre-facelift CTRs, so now I know exactly what that means.

[nickyboy]

You`re welcome

Personally I use http://www.type-r-owners.co.uk/forums/index.php

[Jpax]

Great info Mate!
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b235/nickyboy28/28022008309.jpg
Thank you for sharing and I love the dog smile! whats his/her name?

[nickyboy]

That`s Maddy, she is a 10 year old Labrador x Staffordshire bull terrier. She`s soft as shite, the friendliest dog ever

Here she is giving 5

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b235/nickyboy28/12122007285.jpg

[frm_808]

no problem

i posted this thread before as there was some confustion between UK and JDM type R`s

so wats the diff between them?

[nickyboy]

JDM has a Union Jack badge besides `Civic` on the boot lid. Also the JDM Civic comes in white, whilst the UK one does not.

Also the JDM Civic has all red recaros, and a slightly more tuned engine, resulting in 212bhp as opposed to the UK`s 197bhp

JDM Civic has folding mirrors too

[civictype_r04]

Good info.

[civic sir f1]

before i die i want to visit scotland and drink in a pub with the scotish and if am lucky even drive in scotland a civic type r. Long live sait andrews flag

[rolldic]

yeah we dont get choices, we have one: SI, thats it

[somejaykid]

:mcool:

[Accordexcpe95]

old school looks better.

[Trimix]

All I can say is: Lucky lucky lucky....

BTW, love the knob on the passenger side seat. Makes moving the seat for passengers to get in the back so much easier.

[nickyboy]

aye you don`t have the levers to adjust the seat for the rear passengers eh?

strange

[PuMpKiN_Ep3]

04 05 is the way.....
not to talk about the RHD.... :jaw:

[Jay S.]

that 04-05 is amazing, def the best ep3:mtongue:

[nickyboy]

I disagreed when I had an 02 model, but now aye I agree, 04 onwards is best

[wilpezash]

that 04-05 is amazing, def the best ep3:mtongue:

I agree, 04-05 FTW:mbiggrin:

[black_mamba]

can anyone say sticky

[frm_808]

did anyone else notice the side markers on the fenders? looks like 04-05 dont got em?

[nickyboy]

you mean the indicators? they are in the wing mirrors

[V-TEC]

You forgot to mention the JDM model has an LSD (UK/EDM doesn't). ;)

[CivicDuty]

Thanks for setting it in stone for some of us, I honestly would have missed some of those differences if someone asked me.

[Emerica459]

<------jealous of your car:mtongue:

[frm_808]

you mean the indicators? they are in the wing mirrors

if thats what you call them then yes

[b.r.i.a.n.]

You forgot to mention the JDM model has an LSD (UK/EDM doesn't). ;)

the jdm models also didn't have sidemarkers and none of the jdm models have side view mirrors with blinkers. but they did have the power folding option. the facelifted ukdm models got rid of the side markers because it was moved to the side view mirrors.

and i say sticky.

[cHaRL!e]

wow this is great info. especially some of the small thing. thanks for reposting :mbiggrin:

[nickyboy]

no problem :peace:

[!@#$%]

I love the seats with the red inserts. I want some.

[eptrixter05]

wow i can only dream.... :mtongue: thanks for the post really interesting