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jaeguyoon
04-19-2008, 12:34 PM
Since the site lost the old thread of mine. I'll post a new one!

UPDATE VID AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS POST!


Ok, Finally I got dyno tuned.

Norris Prayoonoto tuned my car at Auto Upgrade in chatilly va.

When I walked in for my appointment, Norris was asking me about my setup, told him I have the crv head with bc stage 3 cams for the k20a3/k24a1/a4 type head. He was excited since he hasn't tuned cams for the a3 yet.

I was just walking around while he was tuning my car. Mostly I was looking at Norris's race cars. His clutchmaster integra was on the lift. I also got a glimpse of the IPS Intake Manifold which looked awesome.

Anyways, When he was done, he came up to me and asked me "What do you think you made?" I said "I dunno 182?"

He showed me the printout and i was very happy.

192.89 HP and 143.85 TQ!!!!!!!! He was suprised himself and told me he never seen an a3 pull those numbers before.

Anyways I don't have a scanner at the moment so I just took a pic of the printout.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y34/jaeguyoon/DYNO.jpg

Here is my complete setup

K24a1 head with BC stage 3 cams and valve springs retainers
TSX VTC Gear (limits the vtc to 25 deg.)
RC 440 Injectors
Hondata Kpro
RBC Intake Manifold W/ Karcepts adapter
Injen Cold Air Intake
Megan Racing Header
Stock 05-06 RSX Midpipe
Spoon N1 Axle Back
Toda TCT
Stock K20a3 Bottom end.


I plan to get a bigger exhaust setup, new clutch and light flywheel, Maxbore TB, and a better race header (buddy club?) and hopefully I'll break 200.



Video of my car!

http://media.putfile.com/k20a3-ep-with-k24a1-head-with-Brian-Crower-stage-3-cams

jaeguyoon
04-19-2008, 12:36 PM
since the dyno tune, I've installed

Competition Stage 2 clutch and competition lightweight flywheel.
Buddy Club RH (it's so much better than Megan)
T1R Midpipe


Car is a bit loud, and has this rasp between 2k-3k rpm but other than that it sounds awesome!

My modified VTC gear should be here next wed, which will allow me to go up to 35deg, so after I get that, I'm going back to Auto Upgrade and Norris to get it retuned.

AUTiger
04-19-2008, 12:37 PM
new tune on Tuesday right with the new header and modded vtc? I'm excited to hear the results.

Beat me to it, looking forward to the new tune

Princess
04-19-2008, 12:40 PM
Nice numbers. Interesting setup.

Your video didn't work for me. :mcry:

jaeguyoon
04-19-2008, 12:41 PM
Nice numbers. Interesting setup.

Your video didn't work for me. :mcry:

Yea I have no idea...putfile is so ghey!

ShadowMD has the hardcopy, I'll ask him to upload it to youtube or something better.

thanks for the comments!

ep3k20a2
04-19-2008, 12:52 PM
good numbers for an a3... vid doesnt work for me either, i cant wait to see the vid though, i wanna hear what the motor sounds like

jaeguyoon
04-19-2008, 02:20 PM
hopefully vid will work soon

jaeguyoon
04-19-2008, 03:16 PM
Sorry ppl didn't realize that the link I posted earlier was incomplete. I fixed it. Vid should work now. ENJOY!

Accordexcpe95
04-19-2008, 04:37 PM
nice jae, u gotta give me a ride sometimes.

Danman281
04-19-2008, 04:40 PM
Is the rsx mid pipe any better than ours?

shadowmd
04-19-2008, 04:42 PM
yea she pulls pretty nice :)

shadowmd
04-19-2008, 04:43 PM
jae, we will def. make another vid once our cars get tuned

dobbs02si
04-19-2008, 05:14 PM
Hell yeah dude, love the vid! ANYthing that will bury a tach gets my attention lol. Ep is coming back together! WOO!

DarkSiRacer
04-19-2008, 05:39 PM
Nice numbers... its like EP Porno...

jaeguyoon
04-20-2008, 10:19 AM
thanks people.


I wanna break into 200s!!!!!!

The new Paul03
04-20-2008, 10:28 AM
Nice, great job man!

jaeguyoon
04-20-2008, 10:31 AM
Nice, great job man!

Thanks!


and for those who are curious. I daily drive (drive the shit out of the car rev to 8k) daily. I have a 80 mile commute everyday, and I've been through 2 oil changes already (7k miles). No issues so far. Loving the power!

AUTiger
04-20-2008, 11:58 AM
i'm pretty sure that 200's will be reached very soon for you. I do want to see what this thing can do on the track at some point.

clujalolo
04-20-2008, 12:05 PM
looks awsome, gotta get some fly by vids. Does the motor sound any differnet with the differnet head and the cams?

holywood
04-20-2008, 12:10 PM
sick numbers! i like the power curve too, very consistent! that's also monsterous tq on an n/a a3 block!

civictype_r04
04-20-2008, 01:37 PM
Nice numbers and awesome video.

chunky
04-20-2008, 02:30 PM
can't wait to see the results of hte re-tune.

Ep3T0n3y
04-20-2008, 03:10 PM
Is the rsx mid pipe any better than ours?

yes. the ep has a 1.5inch midpipe,
the 02-04 type s is a 2" and the 05-06 is a 2.5"

jaeguyoon
04-20-2008, 03:19 PM
yes. the ep has a 1.5inch midpipe,
the 02-04 type s is a 2" and the 05-06 is a 2.5"


I think u got the ID's wrong.

02-04 is 1.8" and 05-06 is 2.12"

ep3k20a2
04-20-2008, 03:20 PM
cant wait to see what the new numbers are!!!

jaeguyoon
04-20-2008, 03:21 PM
can't wait to see the results of hte re-tune.

me too!


Nice numbers and awesome video.
Thanks man

sick numbers! i like the power curve too, very consistent! that's also monsterous tq on an n/a a3 block!
Thanks man, this car is a blast to drive.

looks awsome, gotta get some fly by vids. Does the motor sound any differnet with the differnet head and the cams?
I will try to get some vids up soon!

i'm pretty sure that 200's will be reached very soon for you. I do want to see what this thing can do on the track at some point.

I'll probably go to the track sometime in May. I'll keep y'all updated!

dobbs02si
04-20-2008, 03:21 PM
I think u got the ID's wrong.

02-04 is 1.8" and 05-06 is 2.12"

Damn you..I was fixing to start looking for an 05-06 rsx midpipe lol.

dc5 jet
04-20-2008, 03:47 PM
you got some nice numbers man. thats really interesting.

jaeguyoon
04-21-2008, 04:22 PM
Damn you..I was fixing to start looking for an 05-06 rsx midpipe lol.

:mangel:

at least you wouldn't have bought it and realized it wasn't 2.5!

epshtielsl
04-21-2008, 04:24 PM
Nice numbers man

jimmyjames
04-21-2008, 04:28 PM
How long did it take them to tune the car?
According to their website, it takes 2 sessions for first timers. Any info on that?

jaeguyoon
04-21-2008, 04:46 PM
How long did it take them to tune the car?
According to their website, it takes 2 sessions for first timers. Any info on that?

Took me one session. About 2 hrs.

shadowmd
04-21-2008, 07:40 PM
yea jae, i think im going there. we should both go on the same day....then get few runs in on the way back....heck we can get some on the way there too! lol...get a before and after lol

jaeguyoon
04-21-2008, 07:59 PM
yea jae, i think im going there. we should both go on the same day....then get few runs in on the way back....heck we can get some on the way there too! lol...get a before and after lol

Dude, I can call them and get you in right after me. let m eknow man!

ep3man
04-21-2008, 08:02 PM
nice setup...

shadowmd
04-21-2008, 08:02 PM
well when are u going?.....i still don't kno where my exhaust is from showstoppers and im not gonna be home this weekend

jaeguyoon
04-21-2008, 08:20 PM
well when are u going?.....i still don't kno where my exhaust is from showstoppers and im not gonna be home this weekend

next tuesday. let me know homie

jaeguyoon
04-21-2008, 08:21 PM
nice setup...

thanks!

nolij869
04-22-2008, 01:28 PM
man cant wait to c the new numbers...bringin back all the love for the modified a3!!

civsirmt
04-22-2008, 01:48 PM
that vid makes me want to keep my stg 3s and sell the turbo instead.

AUTiger
04-30-2008, 09:14 AM
I believe your re-tune was scheduled for Tuesday. In for an UPDATE!!!!

shadowmd
04-30-2008, 09:23 AM
it got post poned cause the cam gear didnt come in yet. it should be here the end of this week

lostep3
04-30-2008, 09:27 AM
Nice Setup

Euroyellowep3
04-30-2008, 09:34 AM
nice setup dude, i think i already told you in person, but hey need some posts

Kerby
04-30-2008, 09:47 AM
Can you PM me the entire list of parts needed to do this?

I'm gonna pull the trigger on a used k24a1 head and sending it to a machine shop. Please PLEASE tell me all the parts needed from seals to gaskets. I don't want the stage 3... I'll be happy with a stage 2. SC boost is in my very near future.


What parts are we putting more stain on by having a rev limit of 8K now? Will the oil pump have to be upgraded?

Unknownally
05-04-2008, 10:28 AM
Is the rsx mid pipe any better than ours?

Although I'm not sure about the diameter of the RSX mid pipe compared to ours,
I believe he got it because you need it in order to use the race header.

thetunersource
05-04-2008, 12:10 PM
wow nice setup and nice power

koi_killa
05-04-2008, 08:06 PM
can we get an update? did you get the retune??

waiting attentivly (sp)

zee

EPandaman29
05-04-2008, 08:35 PM
dannggg, 192? stock bottom end? thats nuts

jaeguyoon
05-06-2008, 12:58 PM
sorry people can't get you any updates because hybrid garage in va just messed me up. I sent my vtc gear to get modified 5 weeks ago, they said it'll take 4-5 days turn around, its been 5 weeks and i still don't have it. And they always tell me they'll call back with info and they never do. I just wrote the owner of the shop an email, so we'll see what happens....I hate shops that can't be professional.

jdm_ep3
05-06-2008, 01:00 PM
those are awesome numbers!

AUTiger
05-12-2008, 07:50 PM
has the shop finally gotten their act together? I've been waiting to see what this thing is going to do retuned.

If I had k-pro I would pick up the cams in the classifieds, and follow your route

ALL MotoR Ep3
05-12-2008, 07:53 PM
Ep3 sound strong and healthy man.....bump for a fast a3

RedSiBaron
05-12-2008, 08:02 PM
sorry people can't get you any updates because hybrid garage in va just messed me up. I sent my vtc gear to get modified 5 weeks ago, they said it'll take 4-5 days turn around, its been 5 weeks and i still don't have it. And they always tell me they'll call back with info and they never do. I just wrote the owner of the shop an email, so we'll see what happens....I hate shops that can't be professional.

that sucks man, that seems to be every experience ive had with shipping out to shops for custom work for my race car, took 9 months to get my head back from gude in california, and it wasnt even up to what i was promised, and it took 6months to get my lightened 9lb flywheel back from OPM motorsports...on top of this its been like 9 months since i sent my intake mani to the gtlite national champ (kirk olfson) to get opened up...

so i feel you man, that sucks SOOO much, and its annoying when you cant get ahold of people and they cant give you a straight answer and they get pissed when you ask for an update...so i agree, people need ot be more fucking professional in this business, especially when you hand over the amounts of money we all do...

other than that though im excited to see you break 200! thats an awesome build and it sounds so smooth and sweet

kspec03
05-12-2008, 11:45 PM
nice setup dude, i think i already told you in person, but hey need some posts

lol...:mangel:

Princess
05-13-2008, 04:08 AM
If you had the same setup you have now WITHOUT the CRV head, what numbers do you think you would have made?


"k20a3 all motor cams 192.89 HP and 143.85 TQ!!"

I know it is around here somewhere on the website, but if you dyno a stock ep3 with the k20a3 what are the numbers? How much torque did you gain?



Sorry ppl didn't realize that the link I posted earlier was incomplete. I fixed it. Vid should work now. ENJOY!

Ok, I see it now. Cool.

jaeguyoon
05-13-2008, 11:32 AM
that sucks man, that seems to be every experience ive had with shipping out to shops for custom work for my race car, took 9 months to get my head back from gude in california, and it wasnt even up to what i was promised, and it took 6months to get my lightened 9lb flywheel back from OPM motorsports...on top of this its been like 9 months since i sent my intake mani to the gtlite national champ (kirk olfson) to get opened up...

so i feel you man, that sucks SOOO much, and its annoying when you cant get ahold of people and they cant give you a straight answer and they get pissed when you ask for an update...so i agree, people need ot be more fucking professional in this business, especially when you hand over the amounts of money we all do...

other than that though im excited to see you break 200! thats an awesome build and it sounds so smooth and sweet
Thanks bro, yea it does suck, makes you feel like just got jipped. I hate the fact that they'll say whatever to get the order and once the order is in, they don't communicate wiht you like they used to.



If you had the same setup you have now WITHOUT the CRV head, what numbers do you think you would have made?


"k20a3 all motor cams 192.89 HP and 143.85 TQ!!"

I know it is around here somewhere on the website, but if you dyno a stock ep3 with the k20a3 what are the numbers? How much torque did you gain?




Ok, I see it now. Cool.

Well. it's hard to tell because all dyno's read differently and i never did a baserun without the cams and the head. But a stock ep3 usually stands around 140s hp range.

AUTiger
05-29-2008, 05:33 PM
by now the shop has to have sent you your new vtc gear, right? I really want this thing put back together the way you intend it to be. Update us and let us know if we all need to overflow the shops e-mail inbox with hate mail.

jaeguyoon
05-29-2008, 05:37 PM
by now the shop has to have sent you your new vtc gear, right? I really want this thing put back together the way you intend it to be. Update us and let us know if we all need to overflow the shops e-mail inbox with hate mail.

hahaha yea it came in 2 days ago! After almost 2 months! Finallly!

I'm getting the gear installed at honda from my friend and then it's go time to the tuner!

AUTiger
05-29-2008, 05:58 PM
Fantastic!! Make sure you come back to this thread for the update

kon
05-30-2008, 07:29 AM
Damn, sucks I just read the thread. I had a modified VTC gear (45*) this whole time. Hope all works out man.

jaeguyoon
05-30-2008, 07:32 AM
Damn, sucks I just read the thread. I had a modified VTC gear (45*) this whole time. Hope all works out man.

you still have it? cos right now I have 35 cos Im playing it safe. After the 35 I might want to try 45.

jaeguyoon
06-30-2008, 05:37 PM
here's a lil update.


I'm done with the A3 block. I picked up this bad boy at honda from my boy.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y34/jaeguyoon/k243.jpg
k24a4 block!

I will most likely upgrade the pistons and rods in this before it goes in. I want to up the compression.

jeffgeezer
06-30-2008, 06:00 PM
here's a lil update.


I'm done with the A3 block. I picked up this bad boy at honda from my boy.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y34/jaeguyoon/k243.jpg
k24a4 block!

I will most likely upgrade the pistons and rods in this before it goes in. I want to up the compression.
nice bro! i see a lot of folks are upgrading! this'll be a great md bbq

trogdor48430
07-29-2008, 09:08 AM
whats the idle sound like with the cams?

drjd888
07-29-2008, 09:42 AM
Sounds good and nice power curve. Keep us updated with the retune!

jaeguyoon
07-29-2008, 10:50 AM
Guys, I'm sorry to inform you guys that I'm not sticking with this setup. well technically it's going to be a combination.

I'm gonna pick up a JRSC, and I already picked up a k24 blcok which is sitting in the back. I'm going to replace the pistons and rods from the k24a4 with the tsx ones. I will keep the k24a1 head, with the stage 3 cams (I don't even know if it'll be a good idea with teh sc, if anything I'll sell this head and pick up a a2 head).

So by couple of months, my setup will be

k24a1 head with BC stage 3 cams
K24a4 block w/ tsx pistons and rods
JRSC
BCRH
Apexi WS2

kinda excited.

Bificus
07-29-2008, 11:34 AM
Gonna be a very strong motor.

todaamann
07-29-2008, 12:27 PM
HOT DAMN! sweet build.. excited to see vids on that one!

jaeguyoon
07-29-2008, 09:08 PM
just won these on ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trkparms=tab%3DWatching&viewitem=&item=320278040129&_trksid=p3907.m32

LaoKidd2k
07-29-2008, 09:17 PM
yeah sc frank motor:mbiggrin:

creamSODA
07-29-2008, 09:17 PM
good deal jae

jyoo
07-30-2008, 06:34 PM
wow.. nice numbers! hope you get in the 200s soon

Unknownally
07-30-2008, 08:50 PM
I'm so jelous. I desperately need a better paying job.

04cvcsi
07-31-2008, 12:39 AM
just won these on ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trkparms=tab%3DWatching&viewitem=&item=320278040129&_trksid=p3907.m32
sweet deal

jalep3
07-31-2008, 04:23 PM
I'm so jelous. I desperately need a better paying job.

Dont we all!!!!

weltall
07-31-2008, 04:27 PM
i dont feel like reading through 6 pages but im gonna ask

did he street tune it at all or did he at least do part throttle on the dyno?

jaeguyoon
08-01-2008, 05:37 AM
well chunky street tuned it and that's what norris worked with.

and norris did tune part throttle

weltall
08-01-2008, 11:06 AM
well since i just put in 1000's ill need to get retuned and since the car is getting trailered to the bbq ill stop by one of the more reputable NOVA/md shops there and get it tuned

i want perfect part throttle

jaeguyoon
08-01-2008, 12:13 PM
well since i just put in 1000's ill need to get retuned and since the car is getting trailered to the bbq ill stop by one of the more reputable NOVA/md shops there and get it tuned

i want perfect part throttle

nice! Whats a more reputable shop around here? cos when I put the k24 and the JRSC on I want to get the best number and want perfect part throttle as well.

weltall
08-01-2008, 12:40 PM
the only place i have been to was inline pro in springfield

but my part throttle sucked because of my 1600s they got it as close as humanly possible and it was on the dyno for 5 hours as a result

15000rpms
08-01-2008, 01:06 PM
aren't you forgetting to put in high compression pistons. I'm sure if you do that, you'll be way over 200.

NGS
09-18-2010, 11:56 AM
im really interested in this set up...do you have the vid is not working for me.
amazing numbers! props!

AUTiger
09-18-2010, 12:01 PM
This thread is 2 years old. I don't know if he still has a copy of the vid or not. I believe it was parted out and sold long ago and he went and bought a different car.

cody_sir
09-18-2010, 12:17 PM
I would love to do that to my car