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Jpax
04-21-2008, 02:32 PM
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<td>DIY:S2000 Start button</p>
<p>Submitted by Accordexcpe95</p>
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<td> Material: <br>
S2000 Start button <br>
Wires <br>
floppy drive plug (optional) <br></td>
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<td valign="top"> <p>Tools: <br>
Wire cutter <br>
hot glue <br>
super glue <br>
any cutting tools <br>
-First you need to take out the center console. (<a href="http://www.ephatch.com/resource/shtboot/shft.htm" target="_self">if you don't know how</a>.) <br>
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-take out the screws that are holdin the shift boot (3 screws on the back) and the hazard button (2 screws) <br>
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-check to see if you have the genuine honda s2000 button, because the aftermarket doen'st have a built in relay and the wiring will abit different. <br>
<strong>1:</strong> start trimming the ridges on the button and any parts that will be on the way </p>
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<strong>2:</strong> test fit the s2000 button in the console,the hole is goin to be bigger than the button, but it's fine, we will hot glue it later </p>
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<strong>3:</strong> now you have the trim, saw or drill to make the empty slot bigger to make the button fits. this part is time consuming, jus take you time and test fit it, and try not to scratch console itself. <br>
<strong><em>Notes:</em></strong> DON'T cut the whole black inner ring, because it will be too big for the hazard button. as you can see in the pic, i have left some of the black part there. </p>
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<strong>4:</strong> once you are done, flip over to the back and begin to cut off the taps that used to hold the hazard button. remember to cut it neatly because we are goin to reuse this on the other side. <br>
<strong>5:</strong> screw the taps back to the hazard button and line up with the empty slot. <br>
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<strong>6</strong>:start gluing the taps to the console. in this case, i used Superglue </p>
<p> we can now work on the wiring when we are waitin for it to dry. <br>
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<strong>7:</strong> if you have old computer at home, you are at luck because you can use the floppy drive plug n it plugs right in the s2000 button. if you don't, that's okay too beacuse you can always solder them together. </p>
<p> <strong>8:</strong> there are 4 wires from the floppy plug, but only 3 will be use, here is where the wiring goes.</p>
<p> <strong>9:</strong> once you figure it out which ones to use, you can now extend the wires by soldering or jus twist them together. <br>
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Notes: as you can see my wiring, the white/black one is starter, red is power and the black wire is ground. <br>
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<strong>10:</strong> now lets go back to the console and see if the gule is dry. once it does, you can begin hot glue the s2000 button in place. <br>
now you are ready to wire it to the car. <br>
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<strong>11</strong>: take out all the panels that are blocking the steering wheel cover. thethere are 3 screws on the bottoms that needs to be taken out, don't worry the 2 bolts that are deep inside. <br>
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pop the top and bottom covers open and put it somehwere you won't scratch it. (... i put mine on the floor) <br>
<strong>12:</strong> located the black/white wire that is on the BROWN plug. it's really noticeable. you won't miss it. </p>
<p> -now you will need to splice it and wire them up. (white/balck wire in my case) <br>
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-for the power(red wire in my case), people say look for the green/white (not sure?) wire for the cig. instead of doin that, all i did was look for the fuse that is for the the cig (it should be second role from the bottom, third from the right). pull it out and wraped the wire around it n plug the fuse back in. <br>
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-for the ground wire (black in my case), there are alot of place you can use. the one that i used was located where the hood latch button is because it is bolt to the body. so once again, i wraped the wire around that bolt and screw it back in. <br>
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-check and make sure all wires are hooked up righ, then now it's time to fire up the car with the s2000 button! if it works, you can put the plastic covers back. if not, then you have to recheck your wiring. <br>
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now go back to you center console. if you notice, you hazard harness is goin to short and it barely reaches to the other side. a helpful tips is that the harness is just holding by some electrical tape, all you have to do cut if off and you can route the hazard harness to the other side w/o a problem. <br>
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-last part before you put the center console back in. you will need to test fit it, because i have to trim some of the platics off the top console and the tap that is on teh hazard button. <br>
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That's it! now you can enjoy your s2000 button and stand out from other Ep3s.</p></td>
<td><p><a href="http://www.ephatch.com/images/s2000/BUTTTM.bmp"><img src="http://www.ephatch.com/images/s2000/BUTTTM.bmp" alt="larger view" width="141" height="108" border="0"></a> 1:<a href="http://www.ephatch.com/images/s2000/untitled.bmp"><img src="http://www.ephatch.com/images/s2000/untitled.bmp" width="141" height="108" border="0"></a></p>
<p> 2:<a href="http://www.ephatch.com/images/s2000/untitled1.bmp"><img src="http://www.ephatch.com/images/s2000/untitled1.bmp" width="141" height="108" border="0"></a> 3: <a href="http://www.ephatch.com/images/s2000/untitled2.bmp"><img src="http://www.ephatch.com/images/s2000/untitled2.bmp" width="141" height="108" border="0"></a></p>
<p>4:<a href="http://www.ephatch.com/images/s2000/untitled3.bmp"><img src="http://www.ephatch.com/images/s2000/untitled3.bmp" width="141" height="108" border="0"></a> 5: <a href="http://www.ephatch.com/images/s2000/untitled4.bmp"><img src="http://www.ephatch.com/images/s2000/untitled4.bmp" width="141" height="108" border="0"></a></p>
<p>6:<a href="http://www.ephatch.com/images/s2000/untitled5.bmp"><img src="http://www.ephatch.com/images/s2000/untitled5.bmp" width="141" height="108" border="0"></a> 7: <a href="http://www.ephatch.com/images/s2000/untitled6.bmp"><img src="http://www.ephatch.com/images/s2000/untitled6.bmp" width="141" height="108" border="0"></a></p>
<p>8:<a href="http://www.ephatch.com/images/s2000/untitled7.bmp"><img src="http://www.ephatch.com/images/s2000/untitled7.bmp" width="141" height="108" border="0"></a> 9:<a href="http://www.ephatch.com/images/s2000/untitled8.bmp"><img src="http://www.ephatch.com/images/s2000/untitled8.bmp" width="141" height="108" border="0"></a></p>
<p>10:<a href="http://www.ephatch.com/images/s2000/untitled9.bmp"><img src="http://www.ephatch.com/images/s2000/untitled9.bmp" width="141" height="108" border="0"></a> 11:<a href="http://www.ephatch.com/images/s2000/untitled10.bmp"><img src="http://www.ephatch.com/images/s2000/untitled10.bmp" width="141" height="108" border="0"></a></p>
<p>12:<a href="http://www.ephatch.com/images/s2000/untitled11.bmp"><img src="http://www.ephatch.com/images/s2000/untitled11.bmp" width="141" height="108" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.ephatch.com/images/s2000/untitled12.bmp"><img src="http://www.ephatch.com/images/s2000/untitled12.bmp" width="141" height="108" border="0"></a></p>
<p> <a href="http://www.ephatch.com/images/s2000/untitled13.bmp"><img src="http://www.ephatch.com/images/s2000/untitled13.bmp" width="308" height="237" border="0"></a></p></td>
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SPAM&RICE
04-21-2008, 02:42 PM
My car came with one of these but its not hooked up. I see wires in the back. If I hooke it up can they steal my car w/it. or make it easyer to steal.

Jpax
04-21-2008, 02:45 PM
you need the key to start the car you can't start the car with out the key because of the immoblizer.

SD_smrk1
04-21-2008, 06:22 PM
woot woot... you saved it... im glad I was in the middle of this DIY and then the next thing I know i couldnt log in... i was like oh man ... oh man.. what happend...

EPandaman29
04-21-2008, 08:43 PM
thanks for reposting...wish i could afford an s2k button now :mcry:

jimmyjames
04-21-2008, 08:51 PM
woot woot... you saved it... im glad I was in the middle of this DIY and then the next thing I know i couldnt log in... i was like oh man ... oh man.. what happend...Make sure you install a relay with the button. instead of the starter lead connecting to the button, you should have that run to a relay and then the relay signal in and out from the ignition circuit. I can elaborate later this week when I am back in the US from a business trip.

Blue03Si
04-21-2008, 10:54 PM
Make sure you install a relay with the button. instead of the starter lead connecting to the button, you should have that run to a relay and then the relay signal in and out from the ignition circuit. I can elaborate later this week when I am back in the US from a business trip.

Here is an elaboration :-) Enjoy!

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n134/limitedsc2k1/Start%20Button%20Pic/s2000-install-1.jpg

sekoh69
04-23-2008, 07:54 AM
I've had my damn start button just sittin' in my cup holder for months now.......haven't gotten around to install it. lol

I guess i gotta set some time aside to do so...........

good write up!!!

tjman
04-23-2008, 08:52 AM
hey i have a ignited engine start button it has 4 screws where you would put wires into. <My problem is that i dont know what wires go to what screw hole.

Kodeen
04-23-2008, 01:50 PM
you need the key to start the car you can't start the car with out the key because of the immoblizer.

Which is why I still don't understand why anybody does this.

Blue03Si
04-23-2008, 01:54 PM
Which is why I still don't understand why anybody does this.

Because it looks cool and its fun. You insert the key and just turn it to run, then use the start button to start the car. It basically is in lieu of turning the key all the way to start. Hell if you wanted to you could disconnect the wire that runs to the stock starter switch... then you would need to use the start button :mbiggrin:

EPandaman29
04-23-2008, 01:55 PM
Which is why I still don't understand why anybody does this.

i think its because it looks so damn cool haha:mbiggrin:

Kodeen
04-23-2008, 02:01 PM
Do you still have to depress the clutch to start the car?

Blue03Si
04-23-2008, 02:03 PM
Do you still have to depress the clutch to start the car?

Yes. Pressing the button functions exactly the same as turning the key all the way to start. You hold they key at start while the engine cranks to life then let if go back to run. Same with the button, you hold it in while your car cranks to life then let go after it starts.

EP3_BR3EZE
04-23-2008, 02:41 PM
Great post/repost/save. We're are slowly but surely coming back up.

Godhand
04-23-2008, 02:54 PM
Yes. Pressing the button functions exactly the same as turning the key all the way to start. You hold they key at start while the engine cranks to life then let if go back to run. Same with the button, you hold it in while your car cranks to life then let go after it starts.


So, you can still bypass the clutch with the wire trick and still use the button I presume?

I guess I'll order a start button this evening after work.

Blue03Si
04-23-2008, 02:57 PM
So, you can still bypass the clutch with the wire trick and still use the button I presume?

I guess I'll order a start button this evening after work.

Don't see why not.

Paulieep3
04-25-2008, 05:52 PM
tried to do this installation myself a long time ago, w/o this right up. Didnt realize only 12v power source was needed, i really messed stuff up. took me 3 buttons to realize i was pumping too much power through it( had it run to the main power for starting the car) i also made my own custom wiring harness(which sucked) i didnt know u could use the floppy drive harness.

probably next week im going to attempt another installation. Hopefully this DIY will make everything work smoothly for me

wish me luck:mwink:

xhx
04-28-2008, 08:28 AM
tried to do this installation myself a long time ago, w/o this right up. Didnt realize only 12v power source was needed, i really messed stuff up. took me 3 buttons to realize i was pumping too much power through it( had it run to the main power for starting the car) i also made my own custom wiring harness(which sucked) i didnt know u could use the floppy drive harness.

probably next week im going to attempt another installation. Hopefully this DIY will make everything work smoothly for me

wish me luck:mwink:

Good luck :). Don't pitch those buttons right away - they may be salvageable. I bought one off of a guy really cheap because he had spliced it in without a relay, put too much current through it, and it quit working. I opened it up and saw this:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b383/klcoll/EP/s2kswitchcktmarked.jpg
I soldered in a few wires to replace the blown traces:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b383/klcoll/EP/s2kswitchcktmarked2.jpg
and wired it up... it worked, and has been in the car for 2 years or so now. Bottom line, definitely wire it up with a relay as described above by Blue03Si. The switch can't handle the current necessary to turn the starter motor.

jimmyjames
04-28-2008, 12:58 PM
Good luck :). Don't pitch those buttons right away - they may be salvageable. I soldered in a few wires to replace the blown traces and wired it up... it worked, and has been in the car for 2 years or so now. Awesome info, thanks for the pics too. Please keep those up.

parkjehhyun
05-30-2008, 08:50 AM
can you elaborate after step 12 please?


i'm not understanding where you're connecting the power part. where exactly is the cig power?

NitroBoarder
05-30-2008, 09:42 AM
ok, is this a good buy? they include a bunch of extras and a relay. $86
S2000 engine start button (http://cgi.ebay.com/GENUINE-S2000-START-BUTTON-KIT-OVER-3000-KITS-SOLD_W0QQitemZ290234034394QQihZ019QQcategoryZ14932 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

Blue03Si
05-30-2008, 10:32 AM
ok, is this a good buy? they include a bunch of extras and a relay. $86
S2000 engine start button (http://cgi.ebay.com/GENUINE-S2000-START-BUTTON-KIT-OVER-3000-KITS-SOLD_W0QQitemZ290234034394QQihZ019QQcategoryZ14932 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

You could piece it together for half the price, but if you want most of the easy work done then you can just buy it from ebay. I bought one probably from the same guy years ago when I installed the button in my stealth, after seeing the kit I realized I paid about 40 bucks too much, but it does make it convenient.

jh604
05-30-2008, 10:54 AM
how much is jsut the s2000 button from honda? anyone know?

NitroBoarder
05-30-2008, 11:02 AM
will a 20/30amp relay be fine? or should I get a 30/40a relay?

Blue03Si
05-30-2008, 11:27 AM
Button costs 37.49 from http://www.handa-accessories.com/s2000-03.html

any automotive 12v relay should be fine. 7 bucks from radio shack
Relay (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3020762&cp=&sr=1&origkw=relay&kw=relay&parentPage=search)

Then all you need is the misc things, wire taps, connectors, wires.

You can do it all for about 50-60 bucks

ep3 604
05-30-2008, 11:47 AM
dont these come stock? lol mine had one already in it

jh604
05-30-2008, 02:06 PM
im a total noob at this. but why do you need a relay? cant you just hooke it up like it does in the DIY?

Blue03Si
05-30-2008, 02:09 PM
im a total noob at this. but why do you need a relay? cant you just hooke it up like it does in the DIY?

You can, but the switch isn't made to handle that much current. It will work for a while, but will eventually fry the switch. If you read the entire thread you will find out what happens.

jh604
05-30-2008, 02:44 PM
You can, but the switch isn't made to handle that much current. It will work for a while, but will eventually fry the switch. If you read the entire thread you will find out what happens.

the "genuine" or real honda ones have the relay in them? so if i get a "real" one from honda i wouldnt need a relay?

Blue03Si
05-30-2008, 02:49 PM
the "genuine" or real honda ones have the relay in them? so if i get a "real" one from honda i wouldnt need a relay?

The Genuine honda switch does not have a relay in them. If you read on one of the other pages of this post someone takes one apart, you can clearly see there is no relay.

jh604
05-30-2008, 03:04 PM
okay still kinda confused on the wiring tho. whos diagram is correct? the DIY says the middle of the 3 wires from the button is power (starter)(power)(ground) but in your post it is (power)(IGN)(ground) im assuming IGN or same as starter?

Blue03Si
05-30-2008, 03:14 PM
okay still kinda confused on the wiring tho. whos diagram is correct? the DIY says the middle of the 3 wires from the button is power (starter)(power)(ground) but in your post it is (power)(IGN)(ground) im assuming IGN or same as starter?

IGN is a switched power source. I believe its acc1 off the ignition column. When comparing the pictures make sure you are comparing them the same way, the plug is keyed, so you need to orient yourself by that. The two diagrams are really the same, just one is using a relay the other is not. So instead of going to the starter right off the button it will go to a relay. When the relay gets power (from the button) it will close and allow power to go to the starter. The power button only opens and closes the gate on relay. The relay makes the connection for the starter.

jh604
05-30-2008, 03:19 PM
ahh i see damn. im in canada and handa-accessories doesnt ship out of the us =[. do you know of anywhere else that sell em for cheap?

Blue03Si
05-30-2008, 03:22 PM
ahh i see damn. im in canada and handa-accessories doesnt ship out of the us =[. do you know of anywhere else that sell em for cheap?

Honda Automotive Parts (majestic honda) (http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/auto/jsp/mws/prddisplay.jsp?inputstate=5&catcgry1=S2000&catcgry2=2000&catcgry3=2DR+S2000&catcgry4=KA6MT&catcgry5=SWITCH)

34.80 on here. Item 9.

jh604
05-30-2008, 04:29 PM
Honda Automotive Parts (majestic honda) (http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/auto/jsp/mws/prddisplay.jsp?inputstate=5&catcgry1=S2000&catcgry2=2000&catcgry3=2DR+S2000&catcgry4=KA6MT&catcgry5=SWITCH)

34.80 on here. Item 9.

sweet thanks! now i shall go out and buy my relay

parkjehhyun
05-30-2008, 05:55 PM
so the DIY is basically incorrect...


i mean it'll work but eventually fry right? :mconfused:
i JUST freaking installed it too. where the hell does the relay go then?

jh604
06-03-2008, 04:14 PM
Honda Automotive Parts (majestic honda) (http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/auto/jsp/mws/prddisplay.jsp?inputstate=5&catcgry1=S2000&catcgry2=2000&catcgry3=2DR+S2000&catcgry4=KA6MT&catcgry5=SWITCH)

34.80 on here. Item 9.

soo they finally emailed me back and said "we do not ship to canada"...soo any one know anywhere that is relatively cheap and WILL ship to canada?

Blue03Si
06-03-2008, 04:41 PM
so the DIY is basically incorrect...


i mean it'll work but eventually fry right? :mconfused:
i JUST freaking installed it too. where the hell does the relay go then?

Physically the relay goes where ever you find space to mount it. Electrically you can follow the instructions posted for the relay install.

Blue03Si
06-03-2008, 05:04 PM
soo they finally emailed me back and said "we do not ship to canada"...soo any one know anywhere that is relatively cheap and WILL ship to canada?

No clue then. Your local honda stealership or ebay.

jh604
06-04-2008, 01:22 AM
the stealership is $70

xhx
06-04-2008, 08:17 AM
so the DIY is basically incorrect...


i mean it'll work but eventually fry right? :mconfused:
i JUST freaking installed it too. where the hell does the relay go then?

Follow the instructions Blue03Si posted and you're set. No worries.

NitroBoarder
06-04-2008, 08:31 AM
ok, the time is nearing, and I wanna be 100% ready to knock this out.

so to everyone that has one, what did you use for your 12v ignition, and what did you use for your 12v constant? It says to test, but I figure, we all drive EP's, so I would think the wires would be the same, hopefully. the DIY says he used the Cigarette fuse for the 12v ignition, but since I'm using a relay, what about the 12v constant?

Twenty4/7
06-04-2008, 08:29 PM
i wish i would have done this to my ep3!

xhx
06-04-2008, 09:13 PM
ok, the time is nearing, and I wanna be 100% ready to knock this out.

so to everyone that has one, what did you use for your 12v ignition, and what did you use for your 12v constant? It says to test, but I figure, we all drive EP's, so I would think the wires would be the same, hopefully. the DIY says he used the Cigarette fuse for the 12v ignition, but since I'm using a relay, what about the 12v constant?

Sorry it took me so long to find this. This is the diagram I worked off of to do mine. I had originally found it somewhere else, but this one should work for you:

From the 8th Gen Civic forum (http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/electrical/22121-diy-push-start-button-wiring-diagram.html)

NitroBoarder
06-04-2008, 09:17 PM
Sorry it took me so long to find this. This is the diagram I worked off of to do mine. I had originally found it somewhere else, but this one should work for you:

From the 8th Gen Civic forum (http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/electrical/22121-diy-push-start-button-wiring-diagram.html)

awesome, thanks a lot!

xhx
06-07-2008, 05:11 PM
awesome, thanks a lot!

Any luck?

civictype_r04
06-07-2008, 05:56 PM
I installed mine with the relay like 2 years ago. Then it broke like three days later now I want to take it out it looks so dumb.

xhx
06-09-2008, 09:30 AM
I installed mine with the relay like 2 years ago. Then it broke like three days later now I want to take it out it looks so dumb.

How'd it break? Have you taken it out to see what went wrong?

twep
06-10-2008, 07:10 AM
this looks amazing!!! i hope i can have the skills to do it!

parkjehhyun
06-12-2008, 09:35 AM
can somebody post a DIY with the relay? :mangel:



oh, and where's that damn cigarette lighter fuse?!

xhx
06-12-2008, 09:48 AM
can somebody post a DIY with the relay? :mangel:



oh, and where's that damn cigarette lighter fuse?!

Hit up the link to 8th Gen. Civic I posted earlier (here (http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/electrical/22121-diy-push-start-button-wiring-diagram.html) it is again). It has a diagram showing you how to hook up the relay.

NitroBoarder
06-15-2008, 02:52 PM
just got my install done today.
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s142/NitroBoarder153/Car/Picture004-1.jpg
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s142/NitroBoarder153/Car/Picture003.jpg
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s142/NitroBoarder153/Car/Picture002.jpg

I'll get working on the proper, step by step, relay wiring process, and just add it to this thread.

Blue03Si
06-15-2008, 10:25 PM
just got my install done today.

I'll get working on the proper, step by step, relay wiring process, and just add it to this thread.

Looks good man!

jh604
06-20-2008, 09:57 AM
so i have my "harness" you can call it ready to go. the 8th gen civic diagram has different color wires than our ep. is it the same? also which one is the positive and negative on the cig lighter?

mr-alternative
06-20-2008, 03:32 PM
I guess It was easier to replace the ciagrette lighter with start button...

xhx
06-20-2008, 05:01 PM
so i have my "harness" you can call it ready to go. the 8th gen civic diagram has different color wires than our ep. is it the same? also which one is the positive and negative on the cig lighter?

Sorry... If I have time I'll get under my dash tonight or tomorrow to look at the wire colors and take pictures.

jh604
06-20-2008, 08:28 PM
Sorry... If I have time I'll get under my dash tonight or tomorrow to look at the wire colors and take pictures.

sweet thanks. i have everything good to go i just dont know where to tap in the wires to.

jh604
06-20-2008, 10:57 PM
bump!

anyone know answers?!?!?

mr-alternative
06-21-2008, 02:57 AM
Look at the ciagarette lighter it self, there are 2 contacts, one should be silvern coloured and one coloured like Copper, the coppern coloured is for the positive..!

jh604
06-21-2008, 06:28 AM
Look at the ciagarette lighter it self, there are 2 contacts, one should be silvern coloured and one coloured like Copper, the coppern coloured is for the positive..!

cool thanks ill take a look at it after work.

any one know if the 8th gen civic diagram is correct? or does anyone know which one is the 12v and which one it the ignition?

THANKS!!!

jh604
06-21-2008, 03:22 PM
bump! anyone? Please!!!

jh604
06-21-2008, 10:20 PM
any one?!?!?!?

3dkahuna
06-22-2008, 06:26 AM
nice diy, this would look nice in the dash

jh604
06-22-2008, 02:58 PM
bump! pleaseee anyone?!?!?

NitroBoarder
06-22-2008, 04:20 PM
ok, looking at the back of the button, starting from the right, you have your 12v output that you wire to pin 85 on your relay. next is your 12v ignition, which you wire to pin 87 on your relay, then wire pin 87 to the black/yellow wire on the brown plug on your steering column. the third wire is your ground, wire that to pin 86 on your relay, and then wire pin 86 to a ground source (I used the bolt by the footrest). Finally wire pin 30 to the black/white wire on the brown plug (this is your starter wire).

I just tapped the wires, so I can still use my key to start the car.

lemme know if it's not clear.

EP3Drew
06-25-2008, 02:34 AM
uhmmm that link on how to take out your dash doesn't work ...

ep3 604
06-25-2008, 03:23 PM
jh604 you get the start button working?

jh604
06-25-2008, 04:10 PM
yup and looking sexy like always.

RollinCivic
06-25-2008, 05:37 PM
Pics? Also what nitroboarder posted did it work? Im thinking about getting one and doing it soon... did you mount it where the hazard light was?

xJayDeeEmxEP3x
06-26-2008, 07:22 AM
great write up man. I was actually talking to a buddy the other day about doing this exact same thing.

sekoh69
06-26-2008, 02:42 PM
i finally did mine last weekend.....i tried doin it the EP hatch way n it kept blowin' my fuses for some reason.....so i went on CRSX n i just used a Relay. Im not sayin' don't do it this way.....but just to be on the safe side get urself a Relay.....cus if n e thin' happens u'll blow that relay 1st n not any other car part.
:mbiggrin:

i got my relay from Pep Bois......n it was only 4bucks!!!
(Car Stereo aile)

ep3 604
06-26-2008, 11:03 PM
yup and looking sexy like always.

nice nice. are we the only ones from van on ephatch that have one?

fobman
06-27-2008, 12:47 AM
nice nice. are we the only ones from van on ephatch that have one?

adriel has one as well!

Shead
06-29-2008, 03:35 PM
sweet thx, i been wanting to do this for awhile but im clueless.

k20z1
06-29-2008, 07:36 PM
nice right up.. does it lit up in the dark?

3dkahuna
06-30-2008, 08:51 AM
I will probably order this from parts express to help with this install.

12 VDC 5-Pin Relay Socket w/Diode
Pre-wired relay socket with diode across the coil. Designed for use with starter kill circuits. Three 12" leads. For use with 5-pin Bosch type relay.

This will certainly help out with back EMF.

-3dkahuna

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/7950/330076iez9.jpg
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/3592/330076mpl9.jpg

JDMBuddyClubEP3
07-02-2008, 07:00 PM
nice nice. are we the only ones from van on ephatch that have one?

im from Van but living in Edmonton, i got my button in but not wired (got the car like that) ... what sort of Relay do I look for?? and where did u go? No Lordco here :(

JDMBuddyClubEP3
07-02-2008, 08:27 PM
Scratch that, just got one from The Source by Circut City...it only has 4 prongs rather than 5, but it says on the back of the package what goes to where, so i'll just do as it says and see how it works out! (probly do it this weekendish)

jh604
07-03-2008, 01:13 AM
5 prong will do just dont use the middle one 4/5 pring is the same

JDMBuddyClubEP3
07-09-2008, 07:53 PM
quick question...the 3 wires on the button, one is ground, one goes to the relay, where does the third go? i dont wanna have to wrap around a fuse and plug it in, thats backyard style lol (no offence to anyone that has done it). i've seen on crsx it goes to a different wire under the dash as well (the run wire) but is it the same as the rsx or what color am i looking for?

xhx
07-10-2008, 05:40 AM
quick question...the 3 wires on the button, one is ground, one goes to the relay, where does the third go? i dont wanna have to wrap around a fuse and plug it in, thats backyard style lol (no offence to anyone that has done it). i've seen on crsx it goes to a different wire under the dash as well (the run wire) but is it the same as the rsx or what color am i looking for?

The third wire is the source for the voltage that goes to the relay through the switch and drives the light inside the switch. I have mine spliced in to the + line of the cigarette lighter so it comes on when I turn the key to the acc. position.

JDMBuddyClubEP3
07-10-2008, 04:33 PM
hmm, i'll give it a shot tonite

JDMBuddyClubEP3
07-10-2008, 07:09 PM
nice right up.. does it lit up in the dark?


Success! Mine is in and working...yep it lights up

NitroBoarder
07-10-2008, 07:26 PM
Success! Mine is in and working...yep it lights up

only when you turn the key to ignition it should light up, like XHX said.

the black/yellow wire on the brown plug on your steering column is a 12v ignition course, and the solid white wire on the brown plug in a 12v constant source. you can wire the button just to the relay, and then wire the relay to your car.

Blue03Si
07-22-2008, 11:19 PM
does it matter what year the starter button s2000 is for

Any year S2000 button should work. Can anyone else verify?

jh604
07-23-2008, 12:32 AM
Any year S2000 button should work. Can anyone else verify?

yup the button is just a button

LiLSS
08-02-2008, 01:01 PM
SO what all would i need to do this? just the s2k start button and what else??? and someone let me know the best place to pick up everything for my 03 ep please..

NitroBoarder
08-06-2008, 06:40 PM
SO what all would i need to do this? just the s2k start button and what else??? and someone let me know the best place to pick up everything for my 03 ep please..

christ...no one can take 5 minutes out of their day anymore to find shit themselves can they? it's all in this thread, I'm not going to repeat it. spend a few minutes searching this thread...damn.

and the best place? the internet.

magmagik 1
08-06-2008, 06:46 PM
Always wanted to do that, never got around to it.

Mikebuen
09-02-2008, 08:42 PM
Has anyone that used T- taps had this issue "I would recommend soldering. or at the very least cutting and butt connecting at a very minimum. T-taps will fail much sooner, and usually cause more damage than anything. Especially for heavy gauge wires such as 12v power and ignition."? I have everything ready to get started but just want to make sure T-taps wont mess anything up in the long run. So let me know if it's safe.

vUpac
09-02-2008, 08:44 PM
very helpful thanks! bump bump

Blue03Si
09-02-2008, 09:13 PM
Has anyone that used T- taps had this issue "I would recommend soldering. or at the very least cutting and butt connecting at a very minimum. T-taps will fail much sooner, and usually cause more damage than anything. Especially for heavy gauge wires such as 12v power and ignition."? I have everything ready to get started but just want to make sure T-taps wont mess anything up in the long run. So let me know if it's safe.

I've used T-taps. But you need to make sure you get the right size for the wire. You don't want to use a t-tap for for a 16 gauge wire on a 12 gauge wire. Had it set up that way on my old stealth for about 2 years w/o issue.

bigo711
09-09-2008, 09:59 PM
so the black/white wire from brown harness goes to 30 on relay and wire pin and goes to the button starter wire ??? so confused

fobman
09-10-2008, 03:14 AM
my hazard button don't light up anymore -_-

BlueEP3
09-10-2008, 02:16 PM
aright i have the red s2k button but im still having trouble figuring out the wiring and like how would i make it so i don't need the key to be put in i just want a keyless start with a sensor knowing my key is in the car. like the luxury cars you know what i mean. or do i always have to put the car on acc and i just have to push the button. btw do i still need to step on the clutch to do that?

NitroBoarder
09-10-2008, 03:33 PM
aright i have the red s2k button but im still having trouble figuring out the wiring and like how would i make it so i don't need the key to be put in i just want a keyless start with a sensor knowing my key is in the car. like the luxury cars you know what i mean. or do i always have to put the car on acc and i just have to push the button. btw do i still need to step on the clutch to do that?

can't be done. the s2k button is DESIGNED to be used WITH a key...you can bypass your clutch if you want, but I don't know how. and yes, you turn the key to acc. to give power to the button (because it's wired to an ignition source) and then pushing in the button does the same thing as cranking the key.

illusionsoflife
09-10-2008, 04:42 PM
i heard girls love this. is that true?

Blue03Si
09-10-2008, 04:52 PM
i heard girls love this. is that true?

Oh yeah... girls love it.... they are all experts at pushing buttons :tehehe:

EP3_U_SEE
09-10-2008, 05:06 PM
did this last week and i love it1

EP3_U_SEE
09-10-2008, 05:06 PM
i heard girls love this. is that true?
11
women love to start my engine:tehehyper:

illbert
09-13-2008, 01:27 PM
I have had mine done for a while. Works fine and lights up everytime. SOMETIMES though, maybe 1 out of 10 times it wont start the car. I press the button and it makes a click noise but doesn't start the vehicle. Yes I have the clutch pressed in and the key turned, haha.

SUSHI_NE1
09-09-2010, 01:02 PM
Just wanted to say... JUST ORDERED MINES TODAY!!!!... :-)

SHG_EasyE
09-26-2010, 07:55 AM
Lots of good info in here. I feel like all the relay how to info needs to be added to the first post. The official DIY shouldnt be for a method that is incorrect.

SUSHI_NE1
09-26-2010, 02:32 PM
Lots of good info in here. I feel like all the relay how to info needs to be added to the first post. The official DIY shouldnt be for a method that is incorrect.

That's exactly how I felt when I did mines, cuz if your one of those people who just read the DIY and not the rest of the comments then you will wonder why you burnt the button out. The wiring diagram with the relay should be added.

ttttrigg3r
09-26-2010, 10:40 PM
How much did this mod cost after eveyrthing+taxes?

sean069
09-28-2010, 09:16 AM
i bought mine today and i got stuck where to wire things up. i have 4 wires: black(-) red(15) green(15,ign) green(50)

the instructions tell you to wire:
the black with the body (i know how to do that part:P)
the green wire(15,ign) should be connected to terminal 15 on the back of the ignition switch
the other green wire(50) should be connected to terminal 50 on the back of the ignition switch
the red should be connected to terminal 15, which is the power path that passes through the ignition switch

can you help me to locate where to wire the 2 green and red wires exactly?

thanks.

Blue03Si
12-09-2010, 09:25 PM
I've been slacking on this and I'm sorry everyone who've PM'd me or asked me to find the diagram again. Finally located it on my old pc.

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n134/limitedsc2k1/Start%20Button%20Pic/s2000-install-1.jpg

Blue03Si
12-09-2010, 09:28 PM
Here is a link to the relay you will need for this.
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3020762&CAWELAID=145898269#

http://rsk.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pRS1C-4505486w345.jpg

ep-unit
05-27-2011, 04:16 AM
ordered mine today, i still need to get a pigtail for the push start and a relay, what size should i get, 30 or 40A i've read that we would need a 30A but also saw 40A

jimmyjames
05-30-2011, 05:31 AM
30a should be fine, I believe that's what I used.

sippyyy
09-20-2011, 01:27 PM
just did this yesterday, worked great with the relay. however I also noticed my hazard button doesn't light up. am I crazy or did it never light up in the first place?

Blue03Si
09-20-2011, 01:31 PM
just did this yesterday, worked great with the relay. however I also noticed my hazard button doesn't light up. am I crazy or did it never light up in the first place?

I'm pretty sure it lights up where the white is. Check your connection and the bulb inside the button.

cvicep3
12-14-2011, 09:58 PM
Just ordered the button. Hope it will be successful.

ep32424
12-15-2011, 09:53 PM
Great DIY.

cvicep3
12-16-2011, 11:19 AM
Is it correct that I only need to run the 12v output from the switch to the relay?

jimmyjames
12-16-2011, 04:28 PM
Is it correct that I only need to run the 12v output from the switch to the relay?

Yes, basically, the switch itself is only allowing for the 12v signal (from ign) to "activate" the relay which then lets battery 12v power to run to ignition line.

cvicep3
12-20-2011, 11:53 AM
Would this relay work?
<img src="http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/2893/lites005bq0.jpg">

jimmyjames
12-22-2011, 05:10 AM
Perhaps if you hacked it right or got a socket for it. Typically though, no, wrong type of relay.
It looks like this
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR0e1MKCF3rJ_fNDL8fOFOnueTW8rxdy SQ0tqgRDsO8n3PDVmk7Cg

cvicep3
12-22-2011, 07:38 AM
Thank you, I do have a socket for it.

bearcat91
12-23-2011, 01:57 PM
saw this on ebay dor those who dont want a key to start the car, has a key fob that communicates with the car to arm it and bla bla
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Push-Start-Button-PKE-Passive-Keyless-Entry-Free-Tech-Support-/250920633153?pt=Car_Audio_Video&vxp=mtr&hash=item3a6c090341#ht_3529wt_1139

cvicep3
12-25-2011, 12:27 PM
Got it done yesterday. Super glue did not work for me, hot glue does a nice job holding buttons in place. I did not tap to the starter wire, I cut it and wired to the remote button. Thanks guys, I really like this mod.
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t267/gotpicz/photo-4.jpg

04SiSpeed
01-24-2012, 10:59 AM
I need a plug for the back of my s2k button still, anyone got any suggestions on how to resolve this??

cvicep3
01-25-2012, 06:52 PM
I need a plug for the back of my s2k button still, anyone got any suggestions on how to resolve this??

Use floppy disk plug dude.

04SiSpeed
01-26-2012, 11:05 AM
Use floppy disk plug dude.

Yeah i know ppl been saying that, so i went on amazon and got one lol. I hope its the right one and it works!

mack
11-09-2013, 10:37 PM
Did anyone save the pictures from this thread? Looks like EPHATCH isn't hosting them anymore. Trying to follow the guide but all the pictures are missing. If you could upload them, that'll be great. Thanks!

brian1414
07-23-2014, 08:01 PM
Did anyone save the pictures from this thread? Looks like EPHATCH isn't hosting them anymore. Trying to follow the guide but all the pictures are missing. If you could upload them, that'll be great. Thanks!
+1

David Vizcarra
09-05-2014, 10:01 PM
Which is why I still don't understand why anybody does this.

because it looks badass!! I have it where you can't start it without the S2k start button...just how the S2k is