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ezep3
04-24-2008, 06:26 PM
im rocking a half gut right now ( no rear seats) im thinking of going full gut taking out all the plastics but im undecided what do you guys think????

clutch797
04-24-2008, 06:39 PM
I would vote for full trim but that was not an option.

HondaFreak
04-24-2008, 07:39 PM
Fully gutted.
There's got to be 100 lbs of plastic and sound deadening. Gut it like a peach.

PuMpKiN_Ep3
04-24-2008, 07:44 PM
half man.. full looks... mmm not that good..

AFG
04-24-2008, 07:50 PM
neither, your car is slow regardless... might as well keep the funcionality...

-Navid

creamSODA
04-24-2008, 07:54 PM
i agree with navid

clutch797
04-24-2008, 07:54 PM
x2 man

v1c10us
04-24-2008, 08:37 PM
id leave everything from the seats forward.
take out the rear seats and all the side trim. but leave the door panels and dashboard and all the carpeting.

Emerica459
04-24-2008, 08:39 PM
Those plastic side panels dont weigh anything. I had both at one time or another and I prefer having an interior. But in your case I would recommend the half gut. It also just looks so much cleaner.

dofu2
04-24-2008, 08:58 PM
Fully gutted, painted black.

Princess
04-25-2008, 12:09 AM
I would go fully gutted or leave interior 100% stock. Going halfway looks ridiculous, do it or don't do it. Once fully gutted and if funds allowed I would paint the interior with factory Honda paint to match your stock ep3 color (VBP, NHBP, TW, etc.).

When you only have IHE being fully gutted feels great, you take off faster and stop faster. But when you have a 500 hp ep3 and traction is a problem like Weltall, it doesn't really matter if you are gutted or not. Weltall had like 5 people in his car and it still didn't slow him down. So I would say fully gutted for an ALL MOTOR ep3 and full interior for an ep3 that makes 250 horsepower or more.

Something else to think about. If your ep3 is your hobby car then gut it all the way. If it is your family commute car then keep the interior. Also if you want your ep3 to be a showcar then full gut is a must. Nothing looks better than a fully gutted ep3,

Also, resale. When you gut your ep3 resale value will go in the toilet. But if you want the coolest ep3 ever and you are in it to win it, then gut it. If you plan on keeping your ep3 until you die then resale isn't something you worry about. Some people are just in the ep3 game for a quick minute until they have more money then they find another type of car.

When you gut the interior super hard like I did down to the metal the interior gets very loud. It also takes a lot of work to remove the sound deadening material. LOTS! The car will sound squeaky and a modded exhaust might make your ears ring.

It's a big decision. Don't do it if you think you are going to regret it. Jeez, I make it sound so serious, lol.

If you fully got the interior really hard you will have an incredibly hard time getting the car back to stock. Honestly, once all the plastics are removed from the sides, etc., don't plan on putting the car back together... it's a nice idea but it ain't gonna happen. There are like 2,000 pieces of crap that can be removed from the interior. Storing it all would take up a lot of room.

kprocivic
04-25-2008, 12:13 AM
im all for gutting new cars.

CivilEngSI
04-25-2008, 04:11 AM
Gutting is gay. Do it the right way, just add more power. :mredface:

CajunSi
04-25-2008, 06:21 AM
I agree with Princess all or nothing.

epshtielsl
04-25-2008, 06:32 AM
I agree with Princess all or nothing.

+1 Go big or go home...

Kidding. What other mods do you have done to the car? I think gutting should be left to the track built cars only. It's a nice interior keep it.

RedSiBaron
04-25-2008, 06:40 AM
PSSH!! full gut is pulling door panels and the dash...you guys arent serious yet :mredface::mwink::mconfused::mbiggrin:

fugenpower
04-25-2008, 07:26 AM
honestly i wouldn't gut it at all but if you absolutely had you might as well go all out. once you lose the back seats nothing else needs to be back there.

lostep3
04-25-2008, 07:44 AM
I voted for half, I really only took my back seats out because no one sits back there anyways. If I raced autoX a lot and had more NA horse power I would do a full.

SlayerDX
04-25-2008, 07:46 AM
Gutting is gay. Do it the right way, just add more power. :mredface:

Says the man who gutted his EP when he had it...........:mredface:

On topic, if its your daily driver car, leave it.

SPAM&RICE
04-25-2008, 08:16 AM
holly crap the polls at 50/50 I voted half because thats what I did so take a :photo: trick. jk

ezep3
04-25-2008, 09:03 AM
+1 Go big or go home...

Kidding. What other mods do you have done to the car? I think gutting should be left to the track built cars only. It's a nice interior keep it.

right now i just Have IHE but im getting all the parts together for a k24 swap... apart from the weight reduction i just love how gutted looks theres to much crap in cars now a days this is the first car i have that actually HAD backseats lol... all my other hondas have been old skool and full gut not even carpets but im still debating for the EP:laser:

Godhand
04-25-2008, 09:04 AM
I voted for half, I really only took my back seats out because no one sits back there anyways. If I raced autoX a lot and had more NA horse power I would do a full.

Yeah, I hate driving people around, plus the car just looks better without the backseat and decklid. It seemed like an easy choice to me.

ALep3
04-25-2008, 09:30 AM
I voted half but right now all my interior is in, I remove the seats, hatch cover but no plastic when I go to the strip.

civictype_r04
04-25-2008, 10:10 AM
I say half gut.

1fast03ep
04-25-2008, 10:27 AM
My interior is complete plus 85+ lbs of audio gear so I have no horse in this race!

02_epdriver
04-25-2008, 11:04 AM
Not really sure right now. I have done both on other cars. I guess if your going to gut then get rid of it all.

I already gutted my a/c system. Thats some weight there

CivilEngSI
04-25-2008, 12:16 PM
Says the man who gutted his EP when he had it...........:mredface:

On topic, if its your daily driver car, leave it.

Whatchu talkin bout, willis? :mangel:

Aug
04-25-2008, 12:19 PM
Either do it all out, or not at all

ezep3
04-25-2008, 06:31 PM
:rofl:
My interior is complete plus 85+ lbs of audio gear so I have no horse in this race!

27rocks
04-25-2008, 06:35 PM
i say none...100lbs is not going to do much but make more noise..not to mention our cars are not all that special af far as speed, and the interior is really nice compared to a lot of cars.

somejaykid
04-25-2008, 07:45 PM
half gut that's what i did to my eg6:mbiggrin:

Chazwick05
04-25-2008, 07:58 PM
personally, no gut, but if u have to, half gut.

at least keep a little bit of civility

dobbs02si
04-25-2008, 08:20 PM
Im with some of the die hards, go big or go home. If ya gonna start to gut it, leave one seat and the dash..like me and my bros ef that weighs 1460 with me in it lol. The Ep is all original inside..

ep3drc
04-25-2008, 08:58 PM
man i got about a hundred pounds worth of audio :( my car is slow anyways so no use in takin weight off of it

VegaS10
04-27-2008, 07:01 AM
Every damn ricer in my town has gutted their stock civics.

Bunch of damn idiots.

If it's a daily driven car, leave the nice interior in.

If it is a track car ONLY, gut it!!!

grindin gears
04-27-2008, 07:08 PM
i agree if track gut if dd leave it in. girls wont want to get n a car that rattles and you wouldnt be able to but more than one women in it with no back seat.

dashehonda
04-27-2008, 07:12 PM
If youre gonna do it, do it all the way, i would never, cause i love interiors more than exteriors, plus our cars are loud enough, the plastic and carpet is the only real sound deadener:mrolleyes:

ALL MotoR Ep3
04-27-2008, 07:57 PM
i only half gut my car........because i dont feel like taking apart my whole interior to street race...

az-epdrvr
04-27-2008, 09:06 PM
i need the back seats for the kids (all 3 plus one on way)

lil_Eggy
04-27-2008, 09:37 PM
full gut..

i will more than likely be doing this soon...long commutes ahead

i feel that possible mpgs might be work the extra noise

Rep
04-27-2008, 09:47 PM
I voted for half, I really only took my back seats out because no one sits back there anyways. If I raced autoX a lot and had more NA horse power I would do a full.
GUtting an EP for autox purposes is a pretty terrible idea because you'll get dropped into a very high autox classification where you won't be competitive at all, most likely.

If you're even doing a half-gut on a daily driver; Welcome to RICE TOWN, population, you!

skoo74
04-27-2008, 09:49 PM
anyone know the weight difference between full gut and half gut?

Soviet
04-27-2008, 09:54 PM
im rocking a half gut right now ( no rear seats) im thinking of going full gut taking out all the plastics but im undecided what do you guys think????

Umm...why???

:msmooch:

Rep
04-28-2008, 07:10 AM
anyone know the weight difference between full gut and half gut?
40-50 lbs...maybe.

Euroyellowep3
04-28-2008, 07:25 AM
I would go fully gutted or leave interior 100% stock. Going halfway looks ridiculous, do it or don't do it. Once fully gutted and if funds allowed I would paint the interior with factory Honda paint to match your stock ep3 color (VBP, NHBP, TW, etc.).

When you only have IHE being fully gutted feels great, you take off faster and stop faster. But when you have a 500 hp ep3 and traction is a problem like Weltall, it doesn't really matter if you are gutted or not. Weltall had like 5 people in his car and it still didn't slow him down. So I would say fully gutted for an ALL MOTOR ep3 and full interior for an ep3 that makes 250 horsepower or more.

Something else to think about. If your ep3 is your hobby car then gut it all the way. If it is your family commute car then keep the interior. Also if you want your ep3 to be a showcar then full gut is a must. Nothing looks better than a fully gutted ep3,

Also, resale. When you gut your ep3 resale value will go in the toilet. But if you want the coolest ep3 ever and you are in it to win it, then gut it. If you plan on keeping your ep3 until you die then resale isn't something you worry about. Some people are just in the ep3 game for a quick minute until they have more money then they find another type of car.

When you gut the interior super hard like I did down to the metal the interior gets very loud. It also takes a lot of work to remove the sound deadening material. LOTS! The car will sound squeaky and a modded exhaust might make your ears ring.

It's a big decision. Don't do it if you think you are going to regret it. Jeez, I make it sound so serious, lol.

If you fully got the interior really hard you will have an incredibly hard time getting the car back to stock. Honestly, once all the plastics are removed from the sides, etc., don't plan on putting the car back together... it's a nice idea but it ain't gonna happen. There are like 2,000 pieces of crap that can be removed from the interior. Storing it all would take up a lot of room.

good input, couldnt have said it better myself. Full interior for me, I want to give people rides when its done lol.

iLLoGiCaL
04-28-2008, 08:22 AM
Mines a DD so just the rear gut is fine for me :)

The King
04-28-2008, 09:16 AM
If you have the money to actually paint the interior after you fully gut it that's what I'd do. Think about, I like knowing people can sit in my back seat but no one ever does...so why not benefit from my lack of friends :o(

ezep3
04-28-2008, 03:43 PM
If you have the money to actually paint the interior after you fully gut it that's what I'd do. Think about, I like knowing people can sit in my back seat but no one ever does...so why not benefit from my lack of friends :o(

lol no one really likes sitting back there anyways cus they say its to small and they dont have leg room so if no one likes it why keep them.. and if its a big crew take the biggest car and waste there gas its expensive as :censored: anyways!!

jjr007
04-29-2008, 05:33 PM
I would vote no gut, but that is not an option. I wouldn't do it unless my ep was strictly a race car, and not a daily driver.

.rob
04-29-2008, 06:37 PM
bars are a MUST for gutted cars.

chubbychu
04-30-2008, 12:42 AM
i would say go full or nothing at all.

but, if you just wanted to save a little weight without ruining your car (and turning the car into a 2 seater so people cant bum rides off of you), you could take out the spare, and rear seats. :)

ezep3
04-30-2008, 04:40 PM
bars are a MUST for gutted cars.

soon to come :mbiggrin:

RON
05-01-2008, 02:33 PM
GUTTING AN EP IS STUPID! If it is only a track car maybe... but I would have started witha better platform.

shelbz
05-01-2008, 02:49 PM
GUTTING AN EP IS STUPID! If it is only a track car maybe... but I would have started witha better platform.

it isn't really "stupid" if you track/drag your car or don't want people bumming rides of you..

superhatch
05-02-2008, 11:26 AM
I've had 3 fully gutted project cars, some of which I've had to use as a DD from time to time. It's great for some people, and others can't take it. You hear -everything- on the road, and if you're single...most girls aren't to down with a loud usually uncomfortable car. :mwink:

If you don't care about any of that gut it. Then cage it. You want the ultimate feel...weld in a cage. It will turn any car into something completely different. I just sold my gutted caged Wagovan...miss it, but I didn't have time for two cars with my new job. The experience in a gutted caged car even with only i/h/e (wagon had a built ZC) is visceral. It makes most common cars feel like race cars and can be quite thrilling.

You -will- notice a difference if you do a full gut, but your car is no longer quiet, or accommodating. If you can deal with that...then gut it. I've had enough of the gutting/caging, and I'd rather have something quiet, comfortable, AND fast.

LAvtec818
05-02-2008, 12:30 PM
if your gutting it, do it full

ts ep3
05-03-2008, 03:41 PM
i say no gut but if you do dont half ass it go all the way

brandon
05-04-2008, 09:34 AM
I did a half gut. Handling and gas mileage improve a bit.
Plus it confuses my grandma. Which in itself is worth it.

dobbs02si
05-04-2008, 08:40 PM
LMAO That is so wrong..

hondave
05-04-2008, 08:57 PM
if your gonna gut it then might as well go all out.but whatever you do gut it for function....not for looks!:amen:

socmex7
05-05-2008, 01:17 AM
i would say go full or nothing at all.

but, if you just wanted to save a little weight without ruining your car (and turning the car into a 2 seater so people cant bum rides off of you), you could take out the spare, and rear seats. :)

that'd be the only reason i'd take out my backseats, nowadays i just fold the rear seats down when we go chill, "sorry, no backseat" is my response, but i need then for normal dd (siblings).. gas is too expensive for people to be bumming rides off of a broke college student...

!@#$%
05-05-2008, 01:31 AM
I've had maybe 5 people ride in my backseat since i've had the car and every one of them complained. I didn't remove my upper portions specifically for weight reduction, but just to tell people no when they all want to cram in my car.

frm_808
05-14-2008, 12:21 AM
anyone actually weigh all the sh!t that pulled out from the back and do math of how much faster it would run in a 1/4 mile?

04cvcsi
05-14-2008, 10:58 AM
i get a full gut when i drink a lot of beer

Krispy187
05-15-2008, 05:37 AM
I thinking of taking my back seats out, but sometimes I give rides to the family or take sibilings to places.

slurp812
05-15-2008, 06:02 AM
neither, your car is slow regardless... might as well keep the funcionality...

-Navid

A turbo in a NON-gutted car would be that much faster, and functional...

Siborg18
05-16-2008, 01:07 AM
I agree with CivilEng. Either make some real power enough to get that Ep goin' with a stock interior, or get your a$$ out of the game. Gutting interiors is only best for track cars. I personally dont want to see wiring and ish hanging all over the place. Grow Up...
:boxing:

dashehonda
05-17-2008, 05:04 PM
Im only half gut right now, i need to get to the gym to get rid of it:mwink:


I hate ripped out interiors but only cause the interior is the part you interact most with a car right? yeah you can look at the outside all day, but its the inside that you see most, or enjoy. The EP is rattly enough, without taking out the only sound deadening there is. Keep the interior, and get a JRSC-R:mbiggrin:

Cody Downing
05-31-2008, 11:58 PM
i agree, you can make plenty of horsepower gains without ripping out the interior, you can make up for the weight, ya know?

ash281
06-02-2008, 07:49 PM
i would only have a gutted interior with a/c delete, lightweight wheels, and other stuff

otherwise theres no point really

fdnyjon
08-06-2012, 06:48 PM
full rear gut.. no plastics, no sound deadening and get it painted a nice glossy color! Keep your carpet and both front seats and that other stuff in the front lol heck if you could get some brides or recaros in the front with red carpet then even better!

SC61Boosted
08-06-2012, 07:22 PM
I gutted the back of my car years ago and have never regretted it. the lighter it is, the better. I did leave the sound deadening material in though. It just depends on your future plans for the car, If you think the look would bother you, and if you think the extra noise would drive you nuts.

fdnyjon
08-06-2012, 09:12 PM
I gutted the back of my car years ago and have never regretted it. the lighter it is, the better. I did leave the sound deadening material in though. It just depends on your future plans for the car, If you think the look would bother you, and if you think the extra noise would drive you nuts.

is it your daily? just curious..

Hasbro
08-07-2012, 12:36 AM
Really?

SC61Boosted
08-07-2012, 06:27 AM
Yep, it's my daily

1st
08-07-2012, 08:22 AM
I voted and have been riding half gut for several years now and don’t plan on ever going back. There is a difference that you will feel. My ep is my dd and I feel that it’s lighter, quicker and has gotten better gas mileage ever since.

ryboto
05-12-2013, 08:15 PM
I know, old thread, but figured I'd add to it instead of making another... You guys who gutted the rears(plastic+rear seats), did you also remove the headliner? I'm considering gutting everything behind the front seats, but am curious about the headliner and how it'd look... If it doesn't weigh anything, then I'd just keep it.

mussh
05-13-2013, 08:06 AM
never used the backseats......... half, for now.
bought some cheap floor mats from home depot to cover the fuel door.
http://i516.photobucket.com/albums/u327/musshmonk/20130513_105948.jpg (http://s516.photobucket.com/user/musshmonk/media/20130513_105948.jpg.html)

ericfrom702
05-13-2013, 02:26 PM
never used the backseats......... half, for now.
bought some cheap floor mats from home depot to cover the fuel door.
http://i516.photobucket.com/albums/u327/musshmonk/20130513_105948.jpg (http://s516.photobucket.com/user/musshmonk/media/20130513_105948.jpg.html)

nice set up! what brand bars?

Hasbro
05-13-2013, 03:50 PM
I know, old thread, but figured I'd add to it instead of making another... You guys who gutted the rears(plastic+rear seats), did you also remove the headliner? I'm considering gutting everything behind the front seats, but am curious about the headliner and how it'd look... If it doesn't weigh anything, then I'd just keep it.

I would only remove the headliner if you were going to remove the sun roof. There are lots of sharp edges up there that will cut you and/or rip out your hair. First hand experience! It is also a huge temp and sound insulator.

mussh
05-13-2013, 04:21 PM
nice set up! what brand bars?

one closest in the pic is a megan. one furthest is marked spoon, although i seriously doubt it is. the two that form the "X" are e-bay specials.
they are all rsx c-pillar spec bar.
rear strut tower bar is an e-bay special also.
i bought the two e-bay bars, the two named bars were given to me by a friend.

ryboto
05-16-2013, 10:18 AM
mussh, why'd you keep all the plastic?

mussh
05-16-2013, 10:43 AM
mussh, why'd you keep all the plastic?

i started to strip the plastic, but didnt like the way it looked. looked ghetto to me.

right now my ep3 is my dd. when i finally break down and get another dd, im going to garage my ep3 and go nuts.
interior will be completely stripped, full rollcage, welded in. when i do this, i will take the time and tuck wires and etc....etc.....
i want the time to do it right.
plus, i'd love to repaint the interior....that cool battleship gray color that i have seen a few people do. put a nice clear coat over it.....and maybe leave it bare painted metal, no flooring..........alot of maybes hahahahaha. but i do plan on making it real nice.

ryboto
05-17-2013, 05:38 AM
I may take out the plastic. I don't care what it looks like because I don't look at the back of the car when I'm in the car... only reason I'd keep it in is if there isn't much weight savings value in removing them. I imagine the panels in front of the rear speakers aren't too light.