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Danman281
04-29-2008, 07:13 PM
Anyone still have the DIY for that? real one is expensive and someone on this forum did a good job installing some on his hatch. Glows green when doors open and slowly fades away.

VegaS10
04-30-2008, 04:25 AM
First allow me to say this is being copied onto several forums. Some honda specific, some not. This will require me to explain things a tad unusually, so bear with me.

Honda OEM offered an interior lighting kit that consists of 2 green bulbs. 2 small wiring harnesses, and a small instruction manual that only people on the otherside of the world can read.

A few sites sell this kit for anywhere from $90 to $130. I saw it and crapped my pants. I knew there could be a better and cheaper way.

I scrolled through ebay and ordered a few LED's. Less than $20 for about 100 of these shipped from Hong Kong. I used a clear piece of plexi I had lying around and constructed this:

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j204/vegas10/ep3interiorlighting001.jpg

I used my big battery charger as a 12 volt source:

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j204/vegas10/ep3interiorlighting004.jpg

ZOMG!!! My eg!!!

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j204/vegas10/ep3interiorlighting005.jpg

ZOMG!! A Honda Odyessy!!1!one!!!

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j204/vegas10/ep3interiorlighting006.jpg

I threw the cables in the car so I could see where the LED's had to go:

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j204/vegas10/ep3interiorlighting008.jpg

Lit them up and played with positioning:

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j204/vegas10/ep3interiorlighting010.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j204/vegas10/ep3interiorlighting015.jpg

I dropped the passenger panel. The LED bar went EXACTLY where the middle clip/tab was. I had to cut the metal tab in the dash that held this clip. I marked it:

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j204/vegas10/ep3interiorlighting016.jpg

Cut it:

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j204/vegas10/ep3interiorlighting017.jpg

and hotglued it in place:

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j204/vegas10/ep3interiorlighting018.jpg

This is the quick disconnect I used. This allows me to drop the panel, unhook the light and service anything I need to get to. It will be loomed and try to look OEM:

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j204/vegas10/ep3interiorlighting019.jpg

Soldered, loomed, and extended:

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j204/vegas10/ep3interiorlighting020.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j204/vegas10/ep3interiorlighting022.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j204/vegas10/ep3interiorlighting023.jpg

I ran that wire to the driverside of the ar and started messing with the positioning of the driverside:

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j204/vegas10/ep3interiorlighting024.jpg

Cut and glued:

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j204/vegas10/ep3interiorlighting027.jpg

On the driverside, above the kick is this harness. The green/red wire controls the dome lights. It rests at +12v and when the door opens, it goes to ground.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j204/vegas10/ep3interiorlighting030.jpg

Use that wire as the ground for this system.

The singular plug in the fuse panel has constant +12v. You will need to drop the fusepanel for easier access. This will be used for power to this system. I forgot to take a pic of my fuseholer and spade, but I used a 10 amp fuse to run this.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j204/vegas10/ep3interiorlighting032.jpg

And FINAL results:

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j204/vegas10/ep3interiorlighting034.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j204/vegas10/ep3interiorlighting035.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j204/vegas10/ep3interiorlighting036.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j204/vegas10/ep3interiorlighting037.jpg

Very simple, and less than $25 in materials. NONE of the cuts are visable from the drivers seat and can be easily, and cheaply replaced if desired. And yes, it does fade EXACTLY like the oem lighting!!!!

Enjoy!

MidnightRacer59
04-30-2008, 07:01 AM
Sticky!

Fallout
04-30-2008, 07:22 AM
Great write up! I don't understand why they used green lights for this. Not really a color I would think would be high on their list in choices, but what do I know?

eurocivic
04-30-2008, 07:55 AM
Good look.

az-epdrvr
04-30-2008, 07:57 AM
great write up:thumb:

Chad
04-30-2008, 08:04 AM
Great write up! I don't understand why they used green lights for this. Not really a color I would think would be high on their list in choices, but what do I know?

It's easy on the eyes unlike ricertastic blue ;)

VegaS10
04-30-2008, 08:54 AM
When I made this write up I was doubtful of the green as well.

I tried the blue but just was'nt feeling it.

Red was.....umm, no. I tried amber but it was'nt a "deep" enough orange. I've actually made a white set I may put in when I feel like it, but no rush.

I think the green would look great on red carpet/floormats.

thechromecoyote
04-30-2008, 09:05 AM
When I made this write up I was doubtful of the green as well.

I tried the blue but just was'nt feeling it.

Red was.....umm, no. I tried amber but it was'nt a "deep" enough orange. I've actually made a white set I may put in when I feel like it, but no rush.

I think the green would look great on red carpet/floormats.

I was wondering about red... :cool:

Green is the compliment to red, and since JDM EP3s have the red interior, it would look really great against it.

Kodeen
04-30-2008, 09:07 AM
I was wondering about red... :cool:

Green is the compliment to red, and since JDM EP3s have the red interior, it would look really great against it.

It's a Honda Christmas!

simcivic08
04-30-2008, 09:37 AM
nice, i was searching for a cheaper way to do it :mwink:

Tnhatch03
04-30-2008, 10:48 AM
awesome write up!

pick yo colors!

Chad
04-30-2008, 11:08 AM
One thing I would add is fusing to the green/red wire, VERY light fusing, like .25 or 1/2 amp the LED's will never pull that hard. Granted that the circuit is designed to pull incandescent lamps DOWN TO 0V but if that wire were to short to ground you start tearing things up in the multiplexer which is not a cheap venture and often takes other things "down with the ship" Cheap insurance.

Chad

K-Shark
04-30-2008, 11:20 AM
One thing I would add is fusing to the green/red wire, VERY light fusing, like .25 or 1/2 amp the LED's will never pull that hard. Granted that the circuit is designed to pull incandescent lamps DOWN TO 0V but if that wire were to short to ground you start tearing things up in the multiplexer which is not a cheap venture and often takes other things "down with the ship" Cheap insurance.

Chad

the electrical/sound guru speaks! :humble:

great write up and needs to be stickied fo sho.

and damn i'm jockin your garage and car selection! all you need is a black ek9...

simcivic08
04-30-2008, 11:33 AM
do you know somewhere to learn how to wire led and stuff for a safe install? I'm not very familiar with volt and ohm...

jimmyjames
04-30-2008, 11:34 AM
no sticky, but it has been revised to a DIY thread and located as such.
All DIYs are sticky-worthy; thus why there is a sub-forum devoted to it.

VegaS10
04-30-2008, 11:43 AM
www.the12volt.com has a TON of info and great how to's.

They cover relays, diodes, alarm wiring, ohms, etc. All of them have diagrams and pics as well.

An excellent site for beginners.

oogy-boogy
04-30-2008, 12:09 PM
Nice write up.

Chad
04-30-2008, 12:11 PM
the electrical/sound guru speaks! :humble:

great write up and needs to be stickied fo sho.

and damn i'm jockin your garage and car selection! all you need is a black ek9...

Dunno man, Vega's a pretty bad MoFo when it comes to this stuff too! I was just on the outside looking in and the pessimist in me thinks "what's the worst that could happen" :mbiggrin:

Fallout
04-30-2008, 03:47 PM
It's easy on the eyes unlike ricertastic blue ;)

Point taken.:mcool:

Chad
04-30-2008, 04:56 PM
Point taken.:mcool:

I wasn't trying to be rude :mredface:

Blue is really rough on night vision, our eyes don't deal with that end of the spectrum too well, that's why some find them to look so cool, also note what going even farther into that end of the spectrum does (blacklight) It distorts our vision to the point of misconception of hue. Because of this, pure blue at night is bad for retaining vision, people who have fished at night with a blacklight know well that you have to shut that light off for a bit before casting because you gotta let your eyes get their shit together.

Note that red lighting is used for night vision preservation (other end of the spectrum) Green presents no issues for vision but still appears bright and legible hence why it was and still is a popular backlighting color. Red CAN blur at night.

VegaS10
04-30-2008, 06:34 PM
Question for you Chad.

Since they are LED's, which are diodes themselves, would'nt it be "impossible" for the current to flow "back" towards the multiplex unit?

I'm not trying to be rude, just thinking out loud.

What's your input on this?

(a fuse definitly wouldn't hurt!)

(and thanks for the compliment!)

Danman281
04-30-2008, 06:55 PM
some people think it looks rice but I think it looks pretty damn cool and makes the car look unique.

I has a spare ebay fog light switch, is there a way to route the light to that wire to where it does the door thing and illuminate on command?

edit:
also, like, how did you construct that LED thingamobober? Like just little green LED bulbs and this stuff you call "plexi"? lol

Chad
04-30-2008, 07:00 PM
Question for you Chad.

Since they are LED's, which are diodes themselves, would'nt it be "impossible" for the current to flow "back" towards the multiplex unit?

I'm not trying to be rude, just thinking out loud.

What's your input on this?

(a fuse definitly wouldn't hurt!)

(and thanks for the compliment!)

Oh absolutely and IF you changed your interior lighting to LED like many do it would be a fraction of the pull-down load, remember it's designed to pull down incandesent lighting, and pull it down fast on turn on including inrush load but if that lil booger shorts to ground in a weird failure it's better safe than sorry. (I'm thinking pinched wire, someone uses loose balck tape, you know... Better to CYA sometimes.

lilflx
04-30-2008, 07:13 PM
i like this idea of jdm footlight .. but as i read your diy, im not too sure of where you get the power source from??

Siborg
04-30-2008, 07:18 PM
I wasn't trying to be rude :mredface:

Blue is really rough on night vision, our eyes don't deal with that end of the spectrum too well, that's why some find them to look so cool, also note what going even farther into that end of the spectrum does (blacklight) It distorts our vision to the point of misconception of hue. Because of this, pure blue at night is bad for retaining vision, people who have fished at night with a blacklight know well that you have to shut that light off for a bit before casting because you gotta let your eyes get their shit together.

Note that red lighting is used for night vision preservation (other end of the spectrum) Green presents no issues for vision but still appears bright and legible hence why it was and still is a popular backlighting color. Red CAN blur at night.
hmmm cops use those colors :confused:

william
04-30-2008, 07:24 PM
great post! people like you contributing good info to ephatch will bring it back to its 2008 glory! Also i'm gonna try this.

FoReVaPmP
04-30-2008, 07:29 PM
I think it looks great.... :first:

Chad
04-30-2008, 07:33 PM
hmmm cops use those colors :confused:

Red AND blue, opposite ends of the spectrum, they get your attention quick, like the siren that's centered right in the most sensitive range of human hearing :mwink: You will never really see them use a blue light in a squad car though and never a moto radio with a blue display, red and green all the way.

Ever play with 3D glasses for a while?

Chad
04-30-2008, 07:43 PM
I has a spare ebay fog light switch, is there a way to route the light to that wire to where it does the door thing and illuminate on command?




That's the pisser, at the dome lamp, when the doors are closed the lamp has +12V and +12V at the termnals equalling a net voltage of 0V When the door is open the multiplexer pulls the switched one DOWN TO 0V equalling a net voltage of 12V, when it is closed again it slowly puls it back up to 12V turning the lamp off slowly. In order to do a on demand switch you first need to break the multiplexor input and ground the lamp side, IT HAS TO BE A BREAK BEFORE MAKE SWITCH to avoid damage to the multiplexer. Copying the design of 1/2 of the dome light switch will get you there but I'd sure try it on the bench first.

Siborg
04-30-2008, 07:55 PM
Red AND blue, opposite ends of the spectrum, they get your attention quick, like the siren that's centered right in the most sensitive range of human hearing :mwink: You will never really see them use a blue light in a squad car though and never a moto radio with a blue display, red and green all the way.

Ever play with 3D glasses for a while?
haha ya I know and your eyes/brain can't determine the dominant color :dizzy: , thats why I love vbp w/red interior, good stuff :mbiggrin: makes me ponder the idea foot wells, might be alright lookin, brightness control would be cool.

Danman281
04-30-2008, 08:32 PM
That's the pisser, at the dome lamp, when the doors are closed the lamp has +12V and +12V at the termnals equalling a net voltage of 0V When the door is open the multiplexer pulls the switched one DOWN TO 0V equalling a net voltage of 12V, when it is closed again it slowly puls it back up to 12V turning the lamp off slowly. In order to do a on demand switch you first need to break the multiplexor input and ground the lamp side, IT HAS TO BE A BREAK BEFORE MAKE SWITCH to avoid damage to the multiplexer. Copying the design of 1/2 of the dome light switch will get you there but I'd sure try it on the bench first.

wow... ok I'm a mechanical engineer not electrical haha I'm going to save that switch for something else
thanks

Fallout
04-30-2008, 08:56 PM
I wasn't trying to be rude :mredface:

Blue is really rough on night vision, our eyes don't deal with that end of the spectrum too well, that's why some find them to look so cool, also note what going even farther into that end of the spectrum does (blacklight) It distorts our vision to the point of misconception of hue. Because of this, pure blue at night is bad for retaining vision, people who have fished at night with a blacklight know well that you have to shut that light off for a bit before casting because you gotta let your eyes get their shit together.

Note that red lighting is used for night vision preservation (other end of the spectrum) Green presents no issues for vision but still appears bright and legible hence why it was and still is a popular backlighting color. Red CAN blur at night.

Excellent explaination! Don't worry I wasn't offended at all I thought your ricetaskic comment was funny and I tend to agree with your position on that, lol.

jimmyjames
05-01-2008, 06:00 AM
Oh absolutely and IF you changed your interior lighting to LED like many do it would be a fraction of the pull-down load, remember it's designed to pull down incandesent lighting, and pull it down fast on turn on including inrush load but if that lil booger shorts to ground in a weird failure it's better safe than sorry. (I'm thinking pinched wire, someone uses loose balck tape, you know... Better to CYA sometimes.Your homework for the next week is to create a DIY for an interior incandescent -> LED conversion.
:pizza:

VegaS10
05-01-2008, 06:25 AM
There is already a site that sells those. I'll see if I can find it.

Chad
05-01-2008, 06:46 AM
Velocity LED's on Ebay is pretty darn good and has a great selection.
http://stores.ebay.com/V-LEDS
Then superbright LED's too but their selection is weaksauce compared to velocity.
http://www.superbrightleds.com/

Chad

lilflx
05-01-2008, 10:24 AM
-.-' why nobody answered to my question... u mention that the green and red wire is the ground ? so where is the power source ?? the + - ??

jimmyjames
05-01-2008, 10:42 AM
-.-' why nobody answered to my question... u mention that the green and red wire is the ground ? so where is the power source ?? the + - ??
On the driverside, above the kick is this harness. The green/red wire controls the dome lights. It rests at +12v and when the door opens, it goes to ground.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j204/vegas10/ep3interiorlighting030.jpg

Use that wire as the ground for this system.

The singular plug in the fuse panel has constant +12v. You will need to drop the fusepanel for easier access. This will be used for power to this system. I forgot to take a pic of my fuseholer and spade, but I used a 10 amp fuse to run this.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j204/vegas10/ep3interiorlighting032.jpg

Green wire with red stripe is ground, Single plug (use female spade terminal for connection) on fuse box is +12V for power

Chad
05-01-2008, 02:40 PM
FWIW I have ordered Prewired 12V LED's from these guys before and they are allright, pretty quick from Hong-Kong!

http://stores.ebay.com/led-hk

If you don't want to jack with a current limiting resistor you willw ant to get the pre-wired ones ;)

benkieboy
05-01-2008, 04:01 PM
does it turn on only when the dome light is on (eg: when opening doors)? i amm thinking of doing it so when i open the door, it lights up and when i close the door, it turns off. sorry if my question is stupid. i dont know anything about the jdm floor light

VegaS10
05-01-2008, 04:43 PM
FWIW I have ordered Prewired 12V LED's from these guys before and they are allright, pretty quick from Hong-Kong!

http://stores.ebay.com/led-hk

If you don't want to jack with a current limiting resistor you willw ant to get the pre-wired ones ;)

I've ordered over 2000 (yes, 2000) led's from these guys for myself and coworkers. Good people. I've never ordered the prewired stuff though. We just series/parallel them to match the operating voltage.


does it turn on only when the dome light is on (eg: when opening doors)? i amm thinking of doing it so when i open the door, it lights up and when i close the door, it turns off. sorry if my question is stupid. i dont know anything about the jdm floor light

It works exactly like the dome light. Open the door and the LED's come on. Close the door and the LED's dim slowly.

Danman281
05-01-2008, 04:44 PM
some body start making a bunch of these and start selling it to ephatch for profit!!!

VegaS10
05-01-2008, 05:15 PM
It really is clearly written out. Is there something specific you don't get?

Maybe I should have taken pics of the construction/wiring of the LEDs.

They are merely (sp?) series/paralleled together with no resistors.

Danman281
05-01-2008, 06:47 PM
It really is clearly written out. Is there something specific you don't get?

Maybe I should have taken pics of the construction/wiring of the LEDs.

They are merely (sp?) series/paralleled together with no resistors.

Sorry I'm a noob when it comes to electrical. What do you mean by "Single plug (use female spade terminal for connection) on fuse box is +12V for power". Which one is it?

I nevered played with the fuse box before.
So basically ALL THE ITEMS required is

like 16 LED's
X feet of Y gauge wires
plexi stuff
X amount of fuses

?

like... I don't even know how to construct the small led's together...

Chad
05-01-2008, 07:51 PM
They are merely (sp?) series/paralleled together with no resistors.

How do 4 do in series as opposed to 3? 3 may just be pushing them just a tad at running voltage.

RAMSES EP3
05-01-2008, 10:14 PM
im going to have to try this out

oldschoolimport
05-01-2008, 10:36 PM
but if that wire were to short to ground you start tearing things up in the multiplexer which is not a cheap venture and often takes other things "down with the ship"

Chad
I had an actuator kill my multiplexor, or vice-versa. it sucks!

PuMpKiN_Ep3
05-01-2008, 10:58 PM
looks good... i'll probably go with red lights for mine..

VegaS10
05-02-2008, 03:54 AM
I'm going to take my camera to work today and take some pics of how to wire these up. Some folks have been asking for more detail, so, I'm gonna try and remember to do this.

I should have the pics up later tonight.

VegaS10
05-02-2008, 04:01 AM
Sorry I'm a noob when it comes to electrical. What do you mean by "Single plug (use female spade terminal for connection) on fuse box is +12V for power". Which one is it?

I nevered played with the fuse box before.
So basically ALL THE ITEMS required is

like 16 LED's
X feet of Y gauge wires
plexi stuff
X amount of fuses

?

like... I don't even know how to construct the small led's together...

The green/red in the big harness in the kickpanel is ground. The single terminal in the picture of the fusebox at the end of my finger is used for positive. Just look at the pic. It's under and to the right of the yellow srs plug.

I used 12 LEDs to do this, roughly 8-10 feet of 16 gauge speaker wire, and the same amount of loom. A piece of plexi that was maybe...4 inches by 2 inches that I cut in half (and had to grind down alot to fit...lol). 2 fuse holders (one for the positive terminal 5 amp will do, and one for the ground pre Chad's request, put a .5 amp in there if you can.)


How do 4 do in series as opposed to 3? 3 may just be pushing them just a tad at running voltage.

I dunno about 4. We just used 6 per side. I can't remember if we did 2 rows 3 or just did all 6 together....lol...it's been a couple of months since I did this.

Chad
05-02-2008, 06:36 AM
Ok, That's cool, I recently did 4 whites in series at 12V but and they ran a bit warm AND need more voltage, it all depends on the current consumption and voltage needs of the LED as to how the voltage will drop across each, you MAY have done 6 in series because IIRC when I was pimping out my kid's quad I had like 5-6 in series at 13.8 volts and they seemed rather confortable.

I've had mixed results in series without resistors and attribute that to QC of the LED's

Chad

Chad
05-02-2008, 06:37 AM
I had an actuator kill my multiplexor, or vice-versa. it sucks!

Ouch, and to drive the point home... how much did that cost you?

Danman281
05-02-2008, 07:16 AM
The green/red in the big harness in the kickpanel is ground. The single terminal in the picture of the fusebox at the end of my finger is used for positive. Just look at the pic. It's under and to the right of the yellow srs plug.

I used 12 LEDs to do this, roughly 8-10 feet of 16 gauge speaker wire, and the same amount of loom. A piece of plexi that was maybe...4 inches by 2 inches that I cut in half (and had to grind down alot to fit...lol). 2 fuse holders (one for the positive terminal 5 amp will do, and one for the ground pre Chad's request, put a .5 amp in there if you can.)



I dunno about 4. We just used 6 per side. I can't remember if we did 2 rows 3 or just did all 6 together....lol...it's been a couple of months since I did this.

Ohh ok... I think I get it now. lol thanks

edit: so that LED part is just made out of plexi (which is like a clear plastic) with hot glue over the other side?

VegaS10
05-02-2008, 10:21 AM
Correct.

I just cut some small plexi, drilled the holes in it, mounted the LEDs, soldered them up and coated the back with the glue. The glue held everything in place and keeps it from grounding out.

oldschoolimport
05-02-2008, 12:19 PM
Ouch, and to drive the point home... how much did that cost you?

the multiplexor has no individual part number, so you have to purchase the underdash fuse box. honda wanted $260, but I got one used for $100. I then got the actuator for $34 after my discount.

Danman281
05-02-2008, 01:26 PM
I get it now... its not too hard. ms paint
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/danman281/DiagramforJDMlighting.jpg
Right?

How did you connect it to the fuse box? Is that spot always a 12 volt (hot)? What size LED is that?

btw, anyone know where to find a picture of the JDM oem ones? Post a pic for comparison. I love this thread already

thechromecoyote
05-02-2008, 01:31 PM
You could probably find some SMT (surface mount technology) LED's on Ebay or something if you look hard enough. They are small button sized LED's already mounted on a backing.

SiN05
05-02-2008, 03:07 PM
is ther any other way to wire this to your fuse box without tapping into the dome light wires? Is there an unused slot that would have been for the JDM lights but isn't used but gives the same effect or are they totally different?

Chad
05-02-2008, 03:55 PM
When I do it in a couple weeks I plan to go to the dome light to do that so the dome light switch activates/deactivates the footlights as well. Just like in my old '78 monte carlo :D

Why the hell did the ever stop putting them in?

VegaS10
05-02-2008, 03:58 PM
You could probably find some SMT (surface mount technology) LED's on Ebay or something if you look hard enough. They are small button sized LED's already mounted on a backing.

SMTs are PAINFULLY small to work with. It's frustrating enough to piss off the Pope.


is ther any other way to wire this to your fuse box without tapping into the dome light wires? Is there an unused slot that would have been for the JDM lights but isn't used but gives the same effect or are they totally different?

That wire is the only one I found that works and gives the "fade" effect.


How did you connect it to the fuse box? Is that spot always a 12 volt (hot)? What size LED is that?

On your diagram, the wiring at the actual LED pad is incorrect, but you have the rest of it correct. I simply used a .250 female spade connector to plug into that spot on the fuse panel. That spot is constantly "hot". I forgot the size of the LEDs. I've ordered so many over the year I don't remember. I'll try and find it later tonight.

EPandaman29
05-02-2008, 04:18 PM
very cool....looks great. mite have to add one in the future...prolly not green tho =/

Danman281
05-02-2008, 05:35 PM
where do you buy all these connectors at? Radio shack loves to rape their customers

VegaS10
05-02-2008, 07:22 PM
I'm an installer for a living. We have tons of odd connectors and stuff lying around...

Danman281
05-02-2008, 10:58 PM
It really is clearly written out. Is there something specific you don't get?

Maybe I should have taken pics of the construction/wiring of the LEDs.

They are merely (sp?) series/paralleled together with no resistors.

I read that resistors should be used for this however its not required. your set up is nice and simple. But should EP hatcher's use resistors?

Also, is this a series wiring or parallel?

VegaS10
05-03-2008, 04:38 AM
Think of each LED as 2 volts. It will take 6 of them to equal 12 volts. So, I wired 6 of them in series. I'm sure this isn't the "proper" formula, but it's what I've used, and it's worked fine.

On an LED there is a "long" leg and a "short" leg. The long leg is positive and the short leg is negative.

I REALLY wish I knew how to use MS paint or something. It would make this so much simpler...lol.

I've had mine in for about 6-8 weeks now with no issues. Keep in mind, they are only on for less than 3 minutes a day (at the most in my car, maybe less).

LAvtec818
05-03-2008, 10:46 AM
bump for jdm lighting Nice DIY

Danman281
05-03-2008, 02:19 PM
Think of each LED as 2 volts. It will take 6 of them to equal 12 volts. So, I wired 6 of them in series. I'm sure this isn't the "proper" formula, but it's what I've used, and it's worked fine.

On an LED there is a "long" leg and a "short" leg. The long leg is positive and the short leg is negative.

I REALLY wish I knew how to use MS paint or something. It would make this so much simpler...lol.

I've had mine in for about 6-8 weeks now with no issues. Keep in mind, they are only on for less than 3 minutes a day (at the most in my car, maybe less).

Does it matter if there are 12 LED's in total though?

Lets say each LED voltage consumption is 2.2 (standard green) Volts for a 12 Volt Battery. 6 LED would be already 13.2. With 12 LED it would be 26.4 Volts. That is, if they are both running from same line on a series circuit.

Theoretically it should be this right?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/danman281/JDMlightV2Parallel.jpg

EDIT!!!
don't follow this medthod... just keep reading on. In short though, just buy the LED modules that are prebuilt. more viewing angle... less mess, etc

VegaS10
05-03-2008, 05:10 PM
I know this sounds REALLY bad of me, but I've never used resistors with these LEDs.

We've always used them in large quantities. My friends have done sportbikes, ATVs, boats and other projects with roughly 30-40 LEDs, and never used a resistor. So, I picked up on this and I have'nt either.

I'm sure Chad will chime in and give you some good advice. I reccomend using a small 12 volt battery OUTSIDE the car for testing to make sure you have the voltage correct.

The diagram you've made is really great. I'm just unsure of the value or resistance of the resistors.

Danman281
05-03-2008, 06:51 PM
I know this sounds REALLY bad of me, but I've never used resistors with these LEDs.

We've always used them in large quantities. My friends have done sportbikes, ATVs, boats and other projects with roughly 30-40 LEDs, and never used a resistor. So, I picked up on this and I have'nt either.

I'm sure Chad will chime in and give you some good advice. I reccomend using a small 12 volt battery OUTSIDE the car for testing to make sure you have the voltage correct.

The diagram you've made is really great. I'm just unsure of the value or resistance of the resistors.

coming from a guy who's been doing this for a long time, thanks

lostep3
05-05-2008, 11:25 AM
I just finished this mod, wiring the ground wire was a bitch. It looks pretty good. I had this done already but I wired my lights to a switch that would turn the lights on, but this way is much better. I used some old 168/194 sockets and attached them underneath those plastic trays. I figured this way I can change the color bulbs easily. Thanks for the write up. BTW your Eg is insanely SICK :mtongue:, next time I'm in Vegas you better hide that thing:mbiggrin:Just Kidding

ep3dan
05-05-2008, 11:38 AM
looks tight. i dont have the guts to do that.

VegaS10
05-06-2008, 04:00 AM
I just finished this mod, wiring the ground wire was a bitch. It looks pretty good. I had this done already but I wired my lights to a switch that would turn the lights on, but this way is much better. I used some old 168/194 sockets and attached them underneath those plastic trays. I figured this way I can change the color bulbs easily. Thanks for the write up. BTW your Eg is insanely SICK :mtongue:, next time I'm in Vegas you better hide that thing:mbiggrin:Just Kidding


Pics man....pics!!!

Thanks for the eg comment, although I'm not in vegas, I'm in NC.

lostep3
05-06-2008, 08:43 AM
Pics man....pics!!!

Thanks for the eg comment, although I'm not in vegas, I'm in NC.

I will try and get some pics tonight. I'm aren't as bright as yours, because of the bulbs I'm using. I just ordered some brighter 168 bulbs where all the leds are pointing down so this make the floor more lit up. Once again I love your Eg, very tasteful mods, one of the cleanest Ive seen.:msmooch:

VegaS10
05-06-2008, 01:15 PM
I got alot of snide comments from some of the other forums I posted this on, mainly due tot he green color. At first, I thought it was ricey and I considered yanking it out.

But.................

I just put in my red recaro's the other day. When you see what the green looks like with the red seats, you'll understand why Honda went "green" with the lights.

I'll post some night shots tonight. I don't think ANYONE will be disappointed.

epshtielsl
05-06-2008, 01:24 PM
Nice, I may be trying this. I wanna see the green on red shots. I was thinking about going with red LEDs, but I'll be doing a DIY interior in the coming weeks (red carpet, door inserts, and replacing the grey mesh with red on the seats) and if green on red looks good enough, I may just do green now.

edit: where can I get the "quick disconnect" connectors from? are there any local places I can go, or would I have to search online?

ALL MotoR Ep3
05-06-2008, 02:11 PM
I would do JDM red....but the interior light is still official.....good write up

Danman281
05-06-2008, 02:30 PM
Nice, I may be trying this. I wanna see the green on red shots. I was thinking about going with red LEDs, but I'll be doing a DIY interior in the coming weeks (red carpet, door inserts, and replacing the grey mesh with red on the seats) and if green on red looks good enough, I may just do green now.

edit: where can I get the "quick disconnect" connectors from? are there any local places I can go, or would I have to search online?

I'm pretty sure radio shack will have them. But you gotta pay their rip off price for it

VegaS10
05-06-2008, 04:42 PM
Any electronics store should have them. Just let them know it's for very low amperage draw. I used some scrap junk we had in the shop to build this whole contraption. If I knew where the connectors came from I would surely share.

VegaS10
05-06-2008, 07:03 PM
Here are some pics with my JDM Recaro's (from Hmotorsonline). I think they look better with the green than the stock black seats:

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j204/vegas10/ep3seats001.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j204/vegas10/ep3seats002.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j204/vegas10/ep3seats003.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j204/vegas10/ep3seats004.jpg

My eg was feeling left out sooo:

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j204/vegas10/ep3seats005.jpg

lostep3
05-06-2008, 08:13 PM
Here are a couple of snap shots of my interior lights. Mine are not as bright because like I said I only have a single 168/194 led bulb, but I ordered some brighter ones that should light up the floor more. I also replaced all the other interior light with White led bulbs. Enjoy
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x117/scegsi/IMG_5084.jpg
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x117/scegsi/IMG_5079.jpg

Danman281
05-06-2008, 09:20 PM
now I have to figure out if I want white or green...
they both look awesome.

anyone have red?

epshtielsl
05-06-2008, 10:45 PM
I'll be doing red. I'll try and finish it up tomorrow and get pics up.

VegaS10
05-07-2008, 03:45 AM
Here are a couple of snap shots of my interior lights. Mine are not as bright because like I said I only have a single 168/194 led bulb, but I ordered some brighter ones that should light up the floor more. I also replaced all the other interior light with White led bulbs. Enjoy

Had I kept the stock seats, I would have liked to try white. The white REALLY look good, especially with those pedals. Nice job man!!!

epshtielsl
05-07-2008, 04:05 PM
I'll be doing red. I'll try and finish it up tomorrow and get pics up.

Yeeeaaah....I'm gonna have to scratch that. I won't get around to finishing up this little project for a while.

jtyler05si
05-08-2008, 02:38 PM
wow... ok I'm a mechanical engineer not electrical haha I'm going to save that switch for something else
thanks

ha ha same boat here....i can grasp most of it but ask me in five minutes what i read.

Hoff
05-08-2008, 06:10 PM
I would do this...but my stupid dome light doesnt even work.

Danman281
05-09-2008, 03:05 PM
For anyone who's doing this, this should be a pretty good plan out for your schematic

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/danman281/JDMlightV2ParallelV2.jpg

EDIT!!!

There is a much easier way of doing this by simply buying the LED modules. Don't follow this method
Also, these standard LED's you buy have a small viewing angle unlike the module ones which has 120 degree (compared to 15-30 degrees)

Chad
05-09-2008, 03:38 PM
Q. What happens if you have the wire going to the multiplexor (green) touch chassis?

A. You burn up the multiplexer and purchase a new fuse panel and labor to install it

When the doors are closed both of those wires are hot ;)

Feel free to call me a smartass :D

Chad

VegaS10
05-09-2008, 03:56 PM
Basically what Chad is saying is to add a fuse to the "ground" side of your circuit.

The green/red (I think, maybe just green) wire rests at +12v. If that wire gets shorted, pinched, chewed, etc while the door is closed, it will damage the multiplex unit.

Fuses are cheap, damaged electronics are not.

Danman281
05-09-2008, 05:03 PM
Q. What happens if you have the wire going to the multiplexor (green) touch chassis?

A. You burn up the multiplexer and purchase a new fuse panel and labor to install it

When the doors are closed both of those wires are hot ;)

Feel free to call me a smartass :D

Chad

I asked someone who's a graduated electrical engineer and he said I didn't need need one.

To really avoid the confusion though, just spend the extra 2 bucks and add another fuse to the end. :mrolleyes:

mine came out something like this
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/danman281/DSC03135.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/danman281/DSC03134.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/danman281/DSC03132.jpg

I would have done green if I had Vegas's red seats. :mcry: haha

VegaS10
05-09-2008, 06:59 PM
Spread the LEDs out a little. Basically try to aim them so the LED pattern is not focused down so much. If you aim them down too hard, you'll get a "spotlight" effect.

You want a wide beam, so you're gonna need to spread them out.

Just take something like a popsicle stick in between them and gently push them apart.

Looks good man, don't forget to insulate the back to prevent any shorting out.

Danman281
05-09-2008, 09:34 PM
Spread the LEDs out a little. Basically try to aim them so the LED pattern is not focused down so much. If you aim them down too hard, you'll get a "spotlight" effect.

You want a wide beam, so you're gonna need to spread them out.

Just take something like a popsicle stick in between them and gently push them apart.

Looks good man, don't forget to insulate the back to prevent any shorting out.

Thanks. I tested them out in the hatch and it does have the spot light affect

Danman281
05-10-2008, 01:43 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/danman281/dfgbdsged.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/danman281/fewfwefew.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/danman281/wefwefwe-1.jpg

This little project is turning into a pita. I think one of the LED's are out on the spaced out LED I built.

I can't even see the LED's during day time. Are these only for night?
Doesn't look good when you can see every single LED's spot light

civictype_r04
05-12-2008, 01:23 PM
I may have to try this out.

epshtielsl
05-12-2008, 01:44 PM
Yo VegaS10, how did you mount the LEDs? Did you angle them out or leave them straight? In your pictures you don't have multiple spotlights like in Danman's picture.

VegaS10
05-12-2008, 06:02 PM
Mine have a wide viewing angle. I asked the guys at work about it. They gave me the leds I asked for and did'nt think anything of it. I asked them what the gave me and I showed thme the pics. The leds you used have a narrow viewing angle, maybe 30 degrees. The ones I used are roughly 140 degrees with a 50,000 mcfd output level. I'll try and post more info later.

shusi
05-12-2008, 06:57 PM
very nice write up!

Danman281
05-12-2008, 07:16 PM
I just bought this LED light fixture with prebuilt three LED's. It works really really well and brights the entire thing up. plus its a lot easier and comes with an adhesive back. I'll post a pic when I can

civiCholo
05-12-2008, 08:58 PM
WOW... that looks really good... i might have to try this with another color... looks hot bro...

Danman281
05-12-2008, 09:02 PM
I just bought this LED light fixture with prebuilt three LED's. It works really really well and brights the entire thing up. plus its a lot easier and comes with an adhesive back. I'll post a pic when I can

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/danman281/fwefewgfewfwe.jpg

check this out

VegaS10
05-13-2008, 03:38 AM
I guarantee you those have a VERY wide angle. At least 140 degrees. I bet it lights up EVERYTHING underneath it. Where'd ya get it and what color are the LEDs?

Nice chinchilla btw.

epshtielsl
05-13-2008, 06:53 AM
Mine have a wide viewing angle. I asked the guys at work about it. They gave me the leds I asked for and did'nt think anything of it. I asked them what the gave me and I showed thme the pics. The leds you used have a narrow viewing angle, maybe 30 degrees. The ones I used are roughly 140 degrees with a 50,000 mcfd output level. I'll try and post more info later.

140 degrees and 50,000 mcd? That's pretty crazy. I think the LEDs I ordered are 30 degrees and 10,000mcd. I may have to just put those aside and order what Danman got. Where did you order it btw? And get some pics up of the output.

epshtielsl
05-13-2008, 06:57 AM
NVM. Google'd some of the numbers on the fixture and came up with this:

http://208.64.229.118/images/module/JE-001R.jpg
http://208.64.229.118/product_info.php?products_id=47&osCsid=853b86785419f709f6a2f093c544f2cb

Is this what you ordered? Kinda?

VegaS10
05-13-2008, 09:15 AM
Mine were just raw LEDs. I order them for guys at work all the time and they build crap with them. I told them what I wanted and what i was doing and they gave them to me. I did'nt even think of asking for the specs of them when I didi the write up.

But yeah, 50,000 mcd and a 140 degree pattern is what the bag said. I got them off ebay, just type in Green LEDs and sift through the auctions. I usually get them from a guy with a username like Jhled or something like that.

The leds on that second pics look similar to mine, but like I said, mine were just raw.

epshtielsl
05-13-2008, 09:27 AM
Yeah I ordered just the raw LEDs from superbrightleds or something like that. Just ordered 20 of them because I don't really see myself using them that much after this mod. 30 degree viewing angle and 10,000 mcd. I'm not digging the spotlight effect that the narrow viewing angle makes.

I'll just wait for Danman to chime in and post pics of the output of that LED module and where he got it from. I'll probably go that route. Looks cleaner and has adhesive backing to make things easier.

If I get the modules I'm wondering what I can use my raw LEDs for. I'm thinking about extending the harness and using them to light up the rear passenger area somehow. What extra wiring would be required? Could I just branch it off the 12v power supply like the original ones do, or would some other work need to be done (ie. resistors and fuses)?

Danman281
05-13-2008, 10:05 AM
NVM. Google'd some of the numbers on the fixture and came up with this:

http://208.64.229.118/images/module/JE-001R.jpg
http://208.64.229.118/product_info.php?products_id=47&osCsid=853b86785419f709f6a2f093c544f2cb

Is this what you ordered? Kinda?

These are great LED's. They have a much wider angle than all the other ones I've delt with and I have gone through a lot trying to get this thing perfect. I'll post up pictures of my harness later.

My suggest to anyone building this is to get the ones I bought with the three LED's. They are very bright, can run in parallel, don't have to deal with resistors, cleaner set up. Overall its easier to deal with and better looking than the single LED bulbs I have delt with. They were even super bright 5mm.

epshtielsl
05-13-2008, 10:11 AM
Sounds good. When you post up your pics, post up where you bought them from. The J's LED site doesn't actually have a method to purchase them :mrolleyes:.

Danman281
05-13-2008, 11:04 AM
Sounds good. When you post up your pics, post up where you bought them from. The J's LED site doesn't actually have a method to purchase them :mrolleyes:.

I bought my LED's from a local place in Houston Texas called EPO. Great place

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/danman281/DSC03162.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/danman281/DSC03160.jpg

Hey Vegas, can you see your light during the day time? If so, how dim is it?

Danman281
05-13-2008, 11:59 AM
btw, notice how a postive and negative comes out on the other ends.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/danman281/fwefewgfewfwe.jpg

Even when only one side is connected and the other isnt, it still works. Parallel connections. This makes the job a bit easier. These are pretty bright too, and it should light up EASILY at night. But I don't know about the day time. Waiting to see what Vegas says

epshtielsl
05-13-2008, 12:12 PM
I've been looking for an online distributor but can't find one. Any idea where I would be able to get one?

supreme
05-13-2008, 12:32 PM
can you show a picture of the fuse box after you installed the lights? like did you use a plug for it? i dont get it. lol

VegaS10
05-13-2008, 01:01 PM
30 degree viewing angle and 10,000 mcd. I'm not digging the spotlight effect that the narrow viewing angle

30 degree will give you the spotlight effect. You need something broader like 140 or so.


Waiting to see what Vegas says

Your little device there looks very cool. I'm really liking the parallel wiring there. Mine are very visable during the daytime, even with direct sunlight.


can you show a picture of the fuse box after you installed the lights? like did you use a plug for it? i dont get it. lol

I'll try and taske one tonight. There is only one solo spade terminal in the fuse block. That is the one you use for power, it has constant power at all times.

epshtielsl
05-13-2008, 01:22 PM
So hard to find a good bright wide angle LED.

These are both wide angle but have a low mcd rating (under 400-700mcd):
http://cgi.ebay.com/20-RED-EXTRA-WIDE-ANGLE-5mm-led-leds-FREE-RES_W0QQitemZ310048461249QQihZ021QQcategoryZ1498QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/50pcs-X-5mm-cylindrical-red-led-big-wide-angle_W0QQitemZ350058010481QQihZ022QQcategoryZ6695 4QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

These claim to be wide angle but only have a 45 degree viewing angle. But they are rated at 45,000mcd:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/50p-8mm-SUPER-BRIGHT-RED-LED-LAMP-45-000-mcd-WIDE-ANGLE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33713QQihZ022QQit emZ350059188367QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

As soon as all my stuff gets in, I'm just going to rig up the LEDs I already have and see how they look. If they don't look that great I'll order some other stuff I guess...

Danman281
05-13-2008, 02:53 PM
Your little device there looks very cool. I'm really liking the parallel wiring there. Mine are very visable during the daytime, even with direct sunlight.


Thanks but it's not as bright as yours. You have any pics of yours during the day time? Mine are only somewhat visable during day time. Thinking about adding an extra set on these

VegaS10
05-13-2008, 05:41 PM
I'll take some tommorow.

It's already dark here in NC.

Danman281
05-13-2008, 07:36 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/danman281/theentireassembly.jpg

Thats my beauty!
These work very well in the dark. Good luck Guys. I'm officially done with building.

lostep3
05-14-2008, 08:44 AM
My new 168/194 bulbs are a lot brighter. I'm glad I used my left over 168 sockets, this seems a lot easier than making an LED board of lights. I will try and post some more pix tonight.

Danman281
05-14-2008, 09:22 AM
splicing into the negative is not fun...

Danman281
05-14-2008, 12:06 PM
Here are the Pictures of the Outcome. It was a PAIN IN THE ASS to connect the negatives in. It looks easy untill you got to lean sideways with a flash light in your mouth because its too dark, crimper in one hand, and two other things in the other. All in the hot humid houston weather!

well guys, here it is
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/danman281/Dannys%20Civic%20EP3/passengersidered.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/danman281/Dannys%20Civic%20EP3/driversidered.jpg
overall its a nice mod and I love it. and yea the passenger side's LED is too far to the left I know

VegaS10
05-15-2008, 03:54 AM
Looks great man!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=022&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=350057844007&rd=1

That is a link for white. Notice the viewing angle and the output.

ep3moschini
05-15-2008, 04:17 AM
Ive wanted to do led's in my cluster for so long. . . :mredface: the floor lights look good sir

Chad
05-15-2008, 06:18 AM
One thing I have done to diffuse the LED is to simply knock the tip off on a bench grinder (sand paper works too) It does not take much but IT WILL bring your intensity down (all the light is not concentrated in one spot) so I recommend it wtih high brightness LED's

Chad

lostep3
05-15-2008, 08:31 AM
Here are the new lights, it looks a lot brighter & better:mcool:
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x117/scegsi/inside.jpg

Danman281
05-15-2008, 08:55 AM
Here are the new lights, it looks a lot brighter & better:mcool:
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x117/scegsi/inside.jpg

nice! It looks evenly spaced out and very visible during the day. great job

epshtielsl
05-15-2008, 09:53 AM
looks good lostep3 :thumb:.

I wired up the LEDs I currently have (8,000 mcd; 30 degree) and they do not illuminate as much space as I want them to. I just ordered some 15,000 mcd; 120 degree LEDs off ebay and I'll replace them as soon as they get in. I'll take some pics when I get off work.

As to not waste materials, I'm trying to think what I can use the ones have I have for once they are replaced. Maybe use them to light up the rear passenger area?

Danman281
05-15-2008, 11:16 AM
looks good lostep3 :thumb:.

I wired up the LEDs I currently have (8,000 mcd; 30 degree) and they do not illuminate as much space as I want them to. I just ordered some 15,000 mcd; 120 degree LEDs off ebay and I'll replace them as soon as they get in. I'll take some pics when I get off work.

As to not waste materials, I'm trying to think what I can use the ones have I have for once they are replaced. Maybe use them to light up the rear passenger area?

What I think is a good idea is to light up the cup holders in the center. Thats my idea. The RSX already comes with RED lit cup holders though they aren't as bright. They should turn on whenever the headlamps turn on

thechromecoyote
05-15-2008, 11:23 AM
What I think is a good idea is to light up the cup holders in the center. Thats my idea. The RSX already comes with RED lit cup holders though they aren't as bright. They should turn on whenever the headlamps turn on

Now thats a good plan. I have one of those Cig-lighter lights from autozone do light up the cupholder area. Its soo dark down there at night! :mconfused:

Im not an electrical whiz, does anyone know what wires we'd have to splice to get something down there to light up with the rest of the consoles at night?

VegaS10
05-15-2008, 11:46 AM
You could simply ground it from the cig lighter and use the red/black from the parking lights for power.

Red/black is located in the fuse panel under the dash.

thechromecoyote
05-15-2008, 11:57 AM
You could simply ground it from the cig lighter and use the red/black from the parking lights for power.

Red/black is located in the fuse panel under the dash.

Oh Snap! New project. :mcool: Im going to have to hop in this LED bandwagon now.

Ive already replaced all my bulbs with LED's, time to add some interior accent lights.

Danman281
05-15-2008, 02:00 PM
Oh Snap! New project. :mcool: Im going to have to hop in this LED bandwagon now.

Ive already replaced all my bulbs with LED's, time to add some interior accent lights.

hope it looks good man. post pics when done :)

whats the max load on each existing plug before you melt something? like 12 amps?

VegaS10
05-15-2008, 04:40 PM
LEDs draw very tiny amounts of current. Usually less than 500 milliamps. That's why they are replacing so many everyday uses. They last forever, draw less current, run cooler, climate proof, vibration proof, etc. In our town, the city has replaced all traffic lights with ones using LEDs.

I may do the "cig lighter" light as well. Maybe one in the pocket next to the driver door as well. I'm not sure I'd want them on all the time at night though. Might have to come up with a switch or something. Hmm.....

Also, lostep3, those lights look really good. I like the white and it's well spread out. Great job!

Danman281
05-15-2008, 04:50 PM
LEDs draw very tiny amounts of current. Usually less than 500 milliamps. That's why they are replacing so many everyday uses. They last forever, draw less current, run cooler, climate proof, vibration proof, etc. In our town, the city has replaced all traffic lights with ones using LEDs.

I may do the "cig lighter" light as well. Maybe one in the pocket next to the driver door as well. I'm not sure I'd want them on all the time at night though. Might have to come up with a switch or something. Hmm.....

Also, lostep3, those lights look really good. I like the white and it's well spread out. Great job!

yea thats why I used the 0.5 AMP fuse. But I'm wondering whats the total load you can put on that hot postive in the fuse box. just curious

The cup holder lights, I'm thinking of mounting the LED's where there is that angle that goes down so its kind of hidden. I just need to figure out a good way to mount it.

VegaS10
05-15-2008, 04:55 PM
The wallet pocket and cig lighter plug will be very simple to mount.

Simply drill a hole the same size as the led and slide it in from the top/back.

This time make sure to use a VERY wide angle LED. You should only need 1 for the cig lighter and MAYBE 2 for the wallet pocket.

Danman281
05-15-2008, 06:54 PM
I just now tested out the cup holder LED's with my first red LED module. To be honest it doesn't look that good with RED since it doesn't match the gauges. I think Amber would look better, but I haven't tried that personally yet.

epshtielsl
05-17-2008, 07:25 AM
We have a cig lighter?

epshtielsl
05-18-2008, 08:41 AM
Yeah, so I finally got around to putting this thing in last night and ran into some problems. The 0.5amp fuse before the green/red wire kept blowing. Replaced it with a 1 amp, it blew. Replaced it with a 5 amp, it blew. Replaced it with a 10 amp, it blew. Replaced it with a 20 amp, all the LEDs blew lmao....Any idea what is going on? I followed the wiring diagram and checked to see if everything was wired correctly. I had no clue what was going on so i just yanked it all out and called it a night. I'm gonna start again when the new wide angle LEDs come in.

VegaS10
05-18-2008, 09:40 AM
Before you hook anything up like this, you need to test it on an independt 12 volt source.

Does it work at the battery, just using the positive and negtive terminals?

It sounds like you have something really messed up.

And never keep increasing fuse ratings. I've had a .5 amp fuse on the "ground" and a 5 amp on the "positive" side for quite sometime with no problems.

epshtielsl
05-18-2008, 10:13 AM
I tested it out using some AAs and it worked fine. Then my friend and I installed it. Maybe one of us screwed something up. Who knows. Everything electrical works fine in the car so I doubt something is messed up. Probably some installation error...

Danman281
05-18-2008, 12:44 PM
Yeah, so I finally got around to putting this thing in last night and ran into some problems. The 0.5amp fuse before the green/red wire kept blowing. Replaced it with a 1 amp, it blew. Replaced it with a 5 amp, it blew. Replaced it with a 10 amp, it blew. Replaced it with a 20 amp, all the LEDs blew lmao....Any idea what is going on? I followed the wiring diagram and checked to see if everything was wired correctly. I had no clue what was going on so i just yanked it all out and called it a night. I'm gonna start again when the new wide angle LEDs come in.

You may have wired something wrong, or you have a short in your circuit. Also, its not a great idea to keep increasing the fuse size since they are there to protect your system from frying. All you really need is a 0.5 amp fuse because LED's only take up milliamps of power

How did you wire it up?
It should be similar to this
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/danman281/thisishowyoudoit.jpg

Use the pre-built LED's. You'll love them and they are a lot easier to work with
Just hit me up if you have any questions

epshtielsl
05-18-2008, 01:13 PM
Looks the same way I wired them up. As soon as I opened the door the LEDs flashed then went out. I disconnected them and hooked them up the the battery setup I had and they didn't come on. There may have been something wired incorrectly. I'll try again when I get the LEDs in and get some more 0.5amp fuses.

chrispychicken
05-19-2008, 08:50 AM
For anyone who's doing this, this should be a pretty good plan out for your schematic

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/danman281/JDMlightV2ParallelV2.jpg

EDIT!!!

There is a much easier way of doing this by simply buying the LED modules. Don't follow this method
Also, these standard LED's you buy have a small viewing angle unlike the module ones which has 120 degree (compared to 15-30 degrees)

do you have a link for these modules?

Danman281
05-19-2008, 10:29 AM
do you have a link for these modules?

It should look something like this
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/danman281/fwefewgfewfwe.jpg

I bought mine at a local electronics store called EPO in Houston. Online, idk

RedSiBaron
05-19-2008, 10:42 AM
It should look something like this
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/danman281/fwefewgfewfwe.jpg

I bought mine at a local electronics store called EPO in Houston. Online, idk

LOOK OUT!! BORG KITTY!!!

Danman281
05-19-2008, 02:04 PM
LOOK OUT!! BORG KITTY!!!

LOL

aka cat with LASER BEAMS

RAMSES EP3
06-04-2008, 09:29 PM
check this out i found this it what we are trying to acomplish i had posted this a long time ago but thought that i would repost it in here. look in the ep3 section then choose the ep3 and then scroll down and you will see the jdm green light.

http://www.jdmland.com/

Danman281
06-04-2008, 10:59 PM
check this out i found this it what we are trying to acomplish i had posted this a long time ago but thought that i would repost it in here. look in the ep3 section then choose the ep3 and then scroll down and you will see the jdm green light.

http://www.jdmland.com/

wow! only 89.97 plus shipping!
http://icbmotorsport.com/New3/JDM_DC5_EP3_Foot_Light.jpg

RAMSES EP3
06-05-2008, 12:29 AM
Not to bad huh but idk how or to what it would connect to.

VegaS10
06-05-2008, 04:02 AM
There is less than $10 in my project.....

RAMSES EP3
06-05-2008, 04:04 AM
There is less than $10 in my project.....

Im going to need your help later this week or next when I start to build mine.

04cvcsi
07-23-2008, 12:43 AM
Very simple, and less than $25 in materials. NONE of the cuts are visable from the drivers seat and can be easily, and cheaply replaced if desired. And yes, it does fade EXACTLY like the oem lighting!!!!

Enjoy!

does the LED flicker when it fades off? i wanna try this out tomorrow :)

VegaS10
07-23-2008, 05:36 AM
No.

It cuts off just as smooth as the dome light.

jtyler05si
08-06-2008, 08:16 AM
I found these... they seem like they would work for both cup holder and foo-lights (in multiples of course).
http://www.superbrightleds.com/specs/LBM-x2.htm

however i cant seem to find anywhere where they are selling them.
any one know a website?

VegaS10
08-06-2008, 09:33 AM
Have you called them with those part numbers?

jtyler05si
08-06-2008, 09:43 AM
nevermind, if you click "see prices" at top it goes to the right page. i went another way earlier and you had to scroll through all their products, and this was not included.

i also searched for that part number and no one else has anything....

do these look like they would work for these situations?

shivic
08-06-2008, 01:21 PM
why are the green lights considered jdm?

epshtielsl
08-06-2008, 01:37 PM
Because they are in the CTR?

skep18
08-12-2008, 06:56 AM
Awesome writeup. It definately beats those Autozone bulbs, lol. Good job.

darkunitzero
08-14-2008, 02:47 PM
so ive been checking ebay the last couple days and i havent found any of the wide 140 degree leds with decent light output. are there any other sites that carry them?

bizarroxxx
08-14-2008, 05:39 PM
Looks great:msmooch:

VegaS10
08-14-2008, 07:43 PM
so ive been checking ebay the last couple days and i havent found any of the wide 140 degree leds with decent light output. are there any other sites that carry them?


If you cant find 140 degree it's ok, just use something with as high degree as you can. The higher the degree,the smoother they will look, with less "spotlight" effect....

darkunitzero
08-14-2008, 09:20 PM
yea, ill probably wait and look around. i want that ambience light feel.

rspjean
08-16-2008, 03:52 PM
looks pretty good

thechromecoyote
09-12-2008, 02:08 PM
sorry to revisit, but how do the JDM lights connect to the Dome light ground without cutting wires?? Does anyone have the kit who'd be willing to share this info?

Im thinking that, like fog lights, there is already an empty plug specifically for this task, which would provide the 12v power and dome light linked ground.

robhep3
03-20-2010, 05:21 PM
My 12v single pin spade is already in use by my Ocelaris Fog harness. Any way one could splice off the dome power wire and use a chassis ground to the same effect? Does the system use a fading ground or a fading power side? I guess that would tell me exactly how to run this if I couldn't use that power source...

jimmmay
06-14-2010, 01:25 PM
I don't get it. In my "REAL" JDM Footlight kit, there's two wires to be spliced, one that is green/red and one that is blue/white. It doesn't look like it's supposed to travel anywhere farther than the where the green/red ground wire harness under the driver side is located. So is there an blue/white wire to splice it to? I don't have my car atm so I cannot check.

kingpuba
07-27-2010, 08:24 AM
So anyone want to confirm that the under dash fuse panel for Canada (SiR) is different then the Si? I'm still trying to find a canadian service manual.

I tried splicing 4 wires to find out none of them were 12Vs. I eventually found the correct harness for the dome light but it wasn't anything like what the service manual says. Connector O - Pin 7 (GRN/RED).

kp

kingpuba
07-29-2010, 10:22 AM
So i took the easy way out.

1) Took out the dome light. (Held in by 2 screws)
2) Soldered the power and ground wires onto the switch
3) Ran the power/ground wires under the headliner, down the driver side pillar and under the dash to behind the center console
4) attached the 2 led strips i got from ebay : http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350359712455&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
5) added 2 prong connectors as quick connects and 3A fuses just in case
6) mounted them under the dash with those sticky bathroom hooks

I'll have pics soon..still fascinated by the fact i couldn't find the right wire in the multiplex unit...but this solution actually takes under 5mins to install as well.

Cost: 2x24cm LED strips 6$, 3 sets of 2 prong connectors (3 for 1$), Wire free, 4 bathroom hooks (4 for 1$), 2 3A fuses (0.25$ each)

Total cost: ~8.50$

I saw that SSR was selling a kit as well so i'll take a look at that set when i get a chance.

kp

sifrk32
08-16-2010, 08:40 AM
just a small fyi...pep boys sells small led lights (3 led's per package) but i think the only colors available are red & blue. each led already has an attached resistor, so they last pretty well. has directions too for hole drill size so that they pop right in.

username011
08-16-2010, 07:24 PM
Green footwell lighting? JDM or not I dont think anyone should put that in their car unless it came with it... I can just imagine people screaming rice when they see it.. id make it white.

ttttrigg3r
08-30-2010, 10:18 PM
Amber looks really good. It closely matches the dash and instrument panels.

jeremy
09-30-2010, 07:37 PM
might have been asked already, but if you flip your dome light switch to the ON position do they come on? or only when the door is opened or closed? I'm getting ready to do this with white LED's. just wondering before hand, if they can be controlled by the dome switches on/door/off. any response is appreciated. thanks.

ttttrigg3r
10-01-2010, 10:54 AM
might have been asked already, but if you flip your dome light switch to the ON position do they come on? or only when the door is opened or closed? I'm getting ready to do this with white LED's. just wondering before hand, if they can be controlled by the dome switches on/door/off. any response is appreciated. thanks.

No they can't. The switch only works for that specific light. Note there is one switch for the front and one for the back.

jeremy
10-04-2010, 09:18 PM
Tread was super helpful, just put in my white LEDs for the floor. My floor lights come on exactly when the center dome light comes on. you unlock the car they are on and don't fade until you lock the car or start the engine. and when you flip the center switch to the ON position they come on. i went through the dome light down the drivers pillar to the center console. in the dome light, i hooked the negative wire to the incoming center light prong. and hooked the positive wire to the incoming side-tap bulb prong. this puts it in parallel rather than series. it can get confusing because you can have your wires in the right spot but just have your neg. and positive switched, because LEDs are a basic diode and only work one direction. but anyways this thread helped me out a lot, thanks guys!

ohh and because its in the same circuit as the original dome light the standard fuse for that should suffice, no need of and extra fuse... so far, will let know if it draws too much. thanks

ttttrigg3r
10-05-2010, 02:48 PM
Tread was super helpful, just put in my white LEDs for the floor. My floor lights come on exactly when the center dome light comes on. you unlock the car they are on and don't fade until you lock the car or start the engine. and when you flip the center switch to the ON position they come on. i went through the dome light down the drivers pillar to the center console. in the dome light, i hooked the negative wire to the incoming center light prong. and hooked the positive wire to the incoming side-tap bulb prong. this puts it in parallel rather than series. it can get confusing because you can have your wires in the right spot but just have your neg. and positive switched, because LEDs are a basic diode and only work one direction. but anyways this thread helped me out a lot, thanks guys!

ohh and because its in the same circuit as the original dome light the standard fuse for that should suffice, no need of and extra fuse... so far, will let know if it draws too much. thanks

So u didnt' follow the instructions posted? How did you wire it to work with the switch. pictures?

jeremy
10-05-2010, 08:56 PM
Work is pretty busy this month but, I'll work on going back and posting pictures. but in short you can make it work. its pretty sick. thread helped a lot when it came to brainstorming. i didn't use the original procedure at all. i saw questions about the whole ON switch thing, then saw a post about starting at the dome light itself. and figuring out how to make em work exactly like that little center bulb. took a while but completely worth it.

jeremy
10-05-2010, 09:04 PM
I'm sorry i should have taken pictures but it was late and i was ready to get it over with.

Mr.Civic
12-22-2010, 02:51 PM
which red and green wire theres like 3 of them?

conceptjdm
12-23-2010, 01:21 PM
to riceler to me
now in days they just to put jdm on the products so that people can buy them DON'T BE FOOLED! PEOPLE WATCH OUT!

nitrious
06-14-2011, 09:14 PM
bump for more pics!!
And does anyone have a part # or anything online? where's everyone buying the green lights??

ShadowEP3
06-14-2011, 10:05 PM
http://www.icbmotorsport.com/jdmciep3inli.html

or fab something up like the rest of us did

nitrious
06-21-2011, 09:11 PM
i can do that.. but i wanted some bright bulbs lik VegasS10

fdnyjon
06-04-2012, 08:14 PM
nice eg!

queso
07-04-2012, 10:57 AM
nice thread!!!
do i really need to solder thecables thou??

Jdmdomo
07-06-2012, 11:14 PM
Awesome write up .

Did you try . White .. led. 's .

Jdmdomo
07-06-2012, 11:18 PM
If , I spy some advan sar3 wheels . On that eg , hatch .?

Cuz . I have the same wheels . On my integra like a year . Ago .

And I finishing selling it .

Crazeelegs
03-12-2014, 08:45 AM
So anyone want to confirm that the under dash fuse panel for Canada (SiR) is different then the Si? I'm still trying to find a canadian service manual.

I tried splicing 4 wires to find out none of them were 12Vs. I eventually found the correct harness for the dome light but it wasn't anything like what the service manual says. Connector O - Pin 7 (GRN/RED).


kp

do u have any diy pics for your canadian sir? i am trying to do the same thing