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88crx
04-30-2008, 11:13 PM
So I discovered tonight that with a full tank of gass and a passenger my rear trailing arms rub the inside rim lip.

Now it seems to only be doing it on corners and large bumps. Its better with no passenger but still slightly rubs.

Now how do I fix this? Has anyone experienced this problem?

I'm thinking my options are either run spacers, I'm gonna try 5mm spacers or raise the rear slightly. Would one of those fix the problem. Is 5mm spacer enough?

Thanks guys!

Windchaser
04-30-2008, 11:53 PM
Yes, the spacer will work, but you have to deal with pulling the fenders a little. The new problem u will be having is uneven tire wear.

88crx
05-01-2008, 07:35 AM
They're only 7.5" wide wheels so I still have fender clearance.... now the rear fender liner, thats going to be the problem.

Does the rear trailing arm stay stationary at all times? Or does it pivot and move with the rest of the suspension/hub?

jimmyjames
05-01-2008, 07:37 AM
Post pictures.

88crx
05-01-2008, 08:52 AM
I don't have pictures as I took the wheels off last night.... needed the car to drive to work today.

I'll snap a picture of the rear trailing arm when I get home and show where it was rubbing.

Zzyzx
05-01-2008, 08:58 AM
You have a couple of options here.

1. Raise the car up a bit to give more clearance.
2. Add spacers
3. Buy narower wheels...


And yes, the trailing arm, being attached to the knuckle on the rear does move with the suspension.

88crx
05-01-2008, 09:11 AM
You have a couple of options here.

1. Raise the car up a bit to give more clearance.
2. Add spacers
3. Buy narower wheels...


And yes, the trailing arm, being attached to the knuckle on the rear does move with the suspension.

But it pivots off the body of the car right? Cause it clears sitting still and only rubs when the suspension is compressed.

I'm gonna try a 5mm spacer first.... if that doesn't work then I guess I'll have to raise it up.

Guess no more back seat passengers lol.

d-unit
05-01-2008, 09:15 AM
Hmmm, i think i might be having a similar problem but unlike 88crx im not as smart with diagnosing the problem, While im driving if i go over a bump or something, i hear a small noise coming from the front left side of the car (driver side wheel) i think its either my wheel touching my Fujita CAI Air Filter or after reading this is it possible it is rubbing my front trailing arm? (is there such a thing?) Sorry dont want to Hijack but i just came across this problem this morning on the drive to work, whereas i did not have any problems tuesday or wednesday. Could it be that the springs are just getting settled? Maybe I am just paranoid i dunno

Zzyzx
05-01-2008, 09:31 AM
But it pivots off the body of the car right? Cause it clears sitting still and only rubs when the suspension is compressed.

I'm gonna try a 5mm spacer first.... if that doesn't work then I guess I'll have to raise it up.

Guess no more back seat passengers lol.

Yes, Its a pivot point of the suspension, just like the upper control arm. Which is why it only hits when the suspension compresses further.

mustclime
05-01-2008, 09:41 AM
Have you gotten the car alined since you dropped it?....your rear toe could be off.

88crx
05-01-2008, 09:55 AM
Have you gotten the car alined since you dropped it?....your rear toe could be off.

The car is aligned since I dropped it more.... toe is good, I'll check when I get home but I'm pretty sure the toe is withing spec.

Camber on the other hand is -3 in the rear lol.

Windchaser
05-01-2008, 10:15 AM
The car is aligned since I dropped it more.... toe is good, I'll check when I get home but I'm pretty sure the toe is withing spec.

Camber on the other hand is -3 in the rear lol.

-3? What are the offset of the wheels again? Even with a 7.5 width, it should clear the trailing arm without a problem. Save yourself the hassle and raise it up a bit.

Guardian
05-01-2008, 10:18 AM
i want to see pics

88crx
05-01-2008, 10:22 AM
They're 17x7.5 +50.

Not sure how much I'm lowered as its on coilovers, 3" or 4" I'd imagine.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/88crx/volks_05.jpg

I'll get better pics of trailing arm clearance when i get home tonight.

Guardian
05-01-2008, 10:28 AM
+50:shocked:

i would get spacers if you rubbed or not...

Windchaser
05-01-2008, 10:35 AM
+50? There's your problem LOL. 5mm spacers will do the trick . . . you should have no problem after the spacers.

88crx
05-01-2008, 10:39 AM
Yea, unfortunetly they only made them in stupid ITR offsets so it was either 17x7.5+50 or 17x8+38 which would have rubber the outer fenders like crazy. And the +38's still haven't shipped out.

Guardian
05-01-2008, 10:42 AM
Yea, unfortunetly they only made them in stupid ITR offsets so it was either 17x7.5+50 or 17x8+38 which would have rubber the outer fenders like crazy. And the +38's still haven't shipped out.

i would have gotten the 17x8 +38's

Windchaser
05-01-2008, 10:52 AM
i would have gotten the 17x8 +38's

Me too . . . I hate running spacers and I refuse to do so.

88crx
05-01-2008, 11:00 AM
You wouldn't stand a chance at running 17x8+38 on a car lowered more than a couple inch's without modified (rolled & pulled fenders).

Slammed > flush wheels

or atleast thats IMO.

Windchaser
05-01-2008, 11:06 AM
You wouldn't stand a chance at running 17x8+38 on a car lowered more than a couple inch's without modified (rolled & pulled fenders).

Slammed > flush wheels

or atleast thats IMO.

I have RE30s that are 17X8.0s with +38. They fit just right =). Rear fenders are rolled softly and camber adjustment is @ -2.0 in the rear and -1.5 up front.

Guardian
05-01-2008, 11:11 AM
You wouldn't stand a chance at running 17x8+38 on a car lowered more than a couple inch's without modified (rolled & pulled fenders).

Slammed > flush wheels

or atleast thats IMO.

i prefer a flush wheel with no wheel gap then my chassis sitting on the ground with my wheels sunk in the wheel well. but whats worse imo is that low rider look with the wheels sticking out the side that i see out in north town (<---ghetto)... looks like shit


edit also with so much neg camber you are only using about 1 inch of the inside of the tire

88crx
05-01-2008, 11:11 AM
What about rear fender liners? I'd assume there long gone? Or did the 02/03's not come with those crappy fabric fender liners anyways?

Windchaser
05-01-2008, 11:28 AM
What about rear fender liners? I'd assume there long gone? Or did the 02/03's not come with those crappy fabric fender liners anyways?

What fender lining? I don't have any :confused: and my car is an MY02.

88crx
05-01-2008, 11:31 AM
There is this thick mesh like material fender liner in the back of my 04'.... pretty much all it does it hold dirt/dust and rub on everything.

I'll snap a pic of it too when I get home.... I can't find any exploded diagrams of the rear fender liners online to show you now.


Edit:
Part 19/21 rear fender liner:
http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/auto/jsp/mws/catimgs/14S5S0_B4210.gif

NyQuil
05-01-2008, 11:52 AM
are your fenders rolled? jw

Windchaser
05-01-2008, 11:54 AM
No, I don't think the MY02 had that thick mesh =)

SilverStar
05-01-2008, 12:34 PM
only 04-05 has the rear inner fender liner thing.
i have 17 x 8, with +48 offset and i used 3mm spacers to clear the inner lip of the wheels.
my rear camber is only -1.7. :mcool:

your problem is your offset being +50.
use 5mm spacers (or) used 10mm Kics Projects spacers that has studs already on it.
10 mm spacers will give you more of a flush look.

88crx
05-01-2008, 01:20 PM
only 04-05 has the rear inner fender liner thing.
i have 17 x 8, with +48 offset and i used 3mm spacers to clear the inner lip of the wheels.
my rear camber is only -1.7. :mcool:.


Did you have trouble with the inner lip rubbing prior to the 3mm spacer?

SilverStar
05-01-2008, 02:33 PM
Did you have trouble with the inner lip rubbing prior to the 3mm spacer?

without 3mm spacers, the inner lip are super close to the trailing arms only about a credit card thick. :meek:
3mm spacers gives some more room in between.

in your case, 5mm spacers should do the trick.
my wheels are 8" a little more width than your 7.5".

v1c10us
05-01-2008, 02:53 PM
that offset is killin you dude.
thats like when a fat cat walks on a fence.

88crx
05-01-2008, 07:54 PM
Sorry for the late pics but my internet has been down.... these are all taken with the Rota's on. The Volks of course are much worse. These are also all taken with the car jacked up.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/88crx/fender-01.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/88crx/fender-02.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/88crx/fender-03.jpg

SilverStar
05-01-2008, 08:06 PM
that was pretty damn close.
what is the offset on your slipstreams ?
like i said, spacers will solve the problem.

88crx
05-01-2008, 08:24 PM
Here's a pic of the point of rubbage lol.... just the slightest rub.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/88crx/fender-04.jpg

88crx
05-01-2008, 08:25 PM
that was pretty damn close.
what is the offset on your slipstreams ?
like i said, spacers will solve the problem.

The Shitstreams are 16x7 +45

Guardian
05-01-2008, 08:26 PM
whoa start a tread and ask what size you get before you buy your next set of wheels

88crx
05-01-2008, 08:29 PM
whoa start a tread and ask what size you get before you buy your next set of wheels

There was a thread on the old ephatch and I did ask.

First off it wouldn't have mattered since they're not made in any other size.... second off the setup does work, just not when your lowered as much as I am.

Its a easy fix anyways.... I think a 3mm spacer would even do the trick.

SilverStar
05-01-2008, 09:02 PM
The Shitstreams are 16x7 +45

no wonder..
i had exact slight rubbage like you when i had my Advan RG, 16 x 7.5", +45 offset.
wider rims needs a little lower offset than stock offset (+45) in order to clear the inner side.
how many inches is your drop ?

88crx
05-01-2008, 09:20 PM
I'm not too sure what the drop is....

Tein coilovers are a couple thread from the bottom in the rears and all the way down in the front... so maybe 3-4" or so?

SilverStar
05-01-2008, 09:25 PM
I'm not too sure what the drop is....

Tein coilovers are a couple thread from the bottom in the rears and all the way down in the front... so maybe 3-4" or so?

damn.. you better raise your car a little bit.
with your current drop, i can see that Air Walker lip will be bigger problem than your rear wheels rubbing. :mwink:

Windchaser
05-01-2008, 10:34 PM
With that size and offset, I would have not bought the wheels in the first place especially for the price they were selling it for. This is why I love Work Wheels =)

88crx
05-10-2008, 10:55 PM
Soooooooooooooo..... slapped on some 3mm spacers and everything is good to go.

No rubbage on the trailing arm anymore.

Windchaser
05-10-2008, 10:59 PM
Soooooooooooooo..... slapped on some 3mm spacers and everything is good to go.

No rubbage on the trailing arm anymore.

Good to know. Spacers FTL

valley _boy
05-11-2008, 09:24 AM
how about you try running a 5mm rear spacers and 30mm front spacers? that should be a dope setup! :mcool: