The Official-ish EP3 Brake thread

[ep3moschini]

Post up your set-up in this thread and pro's and con's of parts you have used on your car.

ex. I did an RSX-S front brake conversion on my car about a year ago. I ditched the stock rotors because they were fairly beat up. I got some cheep china replacement rotors (at the time looked like a good deal. . .) to match up with the sweet rotors, I got some EBC "Green Stuff" brake pads (im not such a fan of them) Corsport stainless braided brake lines (still not installed "fail") and I did a brake flush while I was there and added new fluid. here are my results after about a year of use:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/Buryingthesun/IMG_5619.jpg

this is how they looked brand new you can almost see how the rotors are too small:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/Buryingthesun/P0002783.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/Buryingthesun/P0002784.jpg

as you can see from the picture, the rotor is quite worn out, I even noticed that the rotor itself is in fact larger than the stock ep3 rotor, but its not as large as a stock type-s front rotor (that burns me. . . ) so I visually inspected the pad itself to see how much life was left and to my surprise there only half used (50% life was left to them) but a noticeable situation going on is the pad wear itself. there is a good 1/8" -1/4" of the pad not touching the rotor and is as new as the day I got them :mrolleyes:

So in retrospect, I probably should have sprung for the more expensive rotors. But you live and your learn I guess, My new set-up will be the J's Racing slotted rotors (thanks to my girlfriend for my B-day) and Cobalt GT-Sports pads. The rotors will have to be EP3-R spec opposed to the DC5 spec because the DC5 only accept the Brembo's. Since the EP3-R and RSX-S share the same calipers its a natural to get the right ones first (Rotors from www.aj-racing.com) (Pads from www.cobaltfriction.com) Im also planing on running the Motul 5.1 Brake Fluid and its great for our cars because its designed for ABS equipped cars.

[Tnhatch03]

nice.

once i park the civic, i am going to be re-doing a lot of stuff.

i actually have the original pads on my EP. it is an 02 with 75,000 miles.

[lil_Eggy]

nice.

once i park the civic, i am going to be re-doing a lot of stuff.

i actually have the original pads on my EP. it is an 02 with 75,000 miles.

hey man....me too

well i finally did my brakes a couple of months ago, but i was at 78K(original pads and rotors) when i did my brakes

i have no complaints about hawk pads and powerslot rotors

[ep3moschini]

nice.

once i park the civic, i am going to be re-doing a lot of stuff.

i actually have the original pads on my EP. it is an 02 with 75,000 miles.

Im still rocking the stock rotors in the back with stock pads at 70k miles but ive been through 2 sets of front pads and rotors all ready :mangel:

[talonXracer]

I tried a set of Powerslot plus BBK and they sucked big time, no pad worked well with them. Then after the A2 swap I deciided to do a typeS 5lug and brake swap. Those were real good, probably the best DD and occaisional back road driver brakes going. BUT I needed some more protection against fade seeing I LIVE in the mtns, so this is what I went with..

Wilwood 12.2"
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g96/talonxracer/IMG_0545.jpg

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g96/talonxracer/IMG_0478.jpg

The brakes have a MUCH smoother brake pedal with alot better control with no surprise mushy pedal after a spirited run or two taking the long way to town. And they have held up VERY well thru a nasty winter, better than a set of stock rotors and calipers.

[skoolnu]

I have had the wilwood kit for a year now... I got the kit from Summit racing for just under 700 for the kit. Money very well spent. great kit, great stopping power. and they look sick... thats all anyone ever looks at when im on the road. Do it! but a 17 is the smallest wheel you can run. but i like big wheels anyway.


http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f143/skoolnu2/PICT0083.jpg

[Siborg]

I got the Rotora's and I like them a whole hell of alot better than stock w/pads. Only drawback is the price of replacement pads, like $115 or so :meek: just putting Hawks in the back seemed to make quite a bit of difference though :mcool:

sorry...best I could do on brake pics :mredface:

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn116/siborg-ep/IMG_0660-1.jpg
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn116/siborg-ep/IMG_0534.jpg
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn116/siborg-ep/IMG_0659-1.jpg

[ep3moschini]

I was going to do a BBK but I like the 16" wheels

[sLiCk]

My car frequents the track quite a bit. Went from all stock(cooked them within one session), to Hawk HP+ all around with RBF600 fluid(worked pretty well but still had to rebleed every session to keep the pedal nice and hard. Now I run carbotech xp10 up front and hawk hp+ in the rear with ate superblue fluid. Now I can run hard all day long and still be able to pull a hard stop at the end of the day. However the pad burns through way too fast. It'll only last about 2-3 events. The stock 10.3" with a performance pad is great on the street but simply not up to par when they are repeatedly hammered on. Still deciding whether or not a bbk will save me enough time and money from constantly replacing pads to make it worthwhile.

[talonXracer]

but a 17 is the smallest wheel you can run.


I have the same kit and I run 16" steelies with studed snows in the winter with the Wilwood's and there is tons of room.

[sLiCk]

Those of you with the 12.2" wilwood kit. does it fit under the stock 04-05 16" wheels?

[talonXracer]

I am not sure.

[Windchaser]

Doug, what was wrong with Powerslots' BBK?

I had Spoon Sports Monoblocks w/ 4-lug crossed drilled DC5 rotors and Endless pads. I am currently using Spoon Sports Monoblocks w/ Stoptech S2K rotors and Project Mu pads. However, I am working on some Endless 6 Pot Mini Calipers w/ Powerslots or Stoptech rotors. If I can get my hands on a set of 2-piece Wilwood rotors (somebody link me to a place that sells them), then I will get those instead.

[phill]

so there really isnt a clear answer to the "will 16s fit with the willwood kit?"

that sucks, that kit is beautiful for the money

[Windchaser]

so there really isnt a clear answer to the "will 16s fit with the willwood kit?"

that sucks, that kit is beautiful for the money

Yes, it will with the 11.8" kit.

[meetthenewguy]

I went with power slot cryptos all around and hawk pads and some ss lines w/ dot 4 and that was a huge difference. I painted the calipers red while i was at it cleans things up a bit and it was only like 650 for all 4 with lines

[ep3moschini]

I went with power slot cryptos all around and hawk pads and some ss lines w/ dot 4 and that was a huge difference. I painted the calipers red while i was at it cleans things up a bit and it was only like 650 for all 4 with lines

how do you like the cryo treated rotors?

[ash281]

i have brembo sport brake pads lying around which i need to put in. probably going to go with some slotted zinc dipped rotors

[ep_hatcher_510]

just make sure the ebrake works so u can ebrake drift

i tried that before, didn't work, i didn't know how to do it loll, i suck.

[ep3moschini]

i tried that before, didn't work, i didn't know how to do it loll, i suck.

:doh:

[dichotomous]

I put duralast gold ceramic pads on brembo OE replacement rotors, they stop the car pretty nicely for me and didnt cost a lot, thats two wins in my book

[02_epdriver]

Yes, it will with the 11.8" kit.

Is there a kit to fit the ep's that 15 inch stockies. For the 02-03 models for the wilwood

[Princess]

Is there a kit to fit the ep's that 15 inch stockies. For the 02-03 models for the wilwood

I thought the smallest size an ep3 stock wheel ever came in was 16"? Why would you want to keep 15" rims? Too small. Go for 17s.

[bmyers4321]

Doug, what was wrong with Powerslots' BBK?

I had Spoon Sports Monoblocks w/ 4-lug crossed drilled DC5 rotors and Endless pads. I am currently using Spoon Sports Monoblocks w/ Stoptech S2K rotors and Project Mu pads. However, I am working on some Endless 6 Pot Mini Calipers w/ Powerslots or Stoptech rotors. If I can get my hands on a set of 2-piece Wilwood rotors (somebody link me to a place that sells them), then I will get those instead.
:hail:

where are you getting the endless calipers from and why not get some endless rotors to go along? itd love to have them but they are pretty expensive.

[nightbear]

i was trying to look for the wilwood brake kit on summitracing.com but it seems like they only make it for 4 lugs.

does anyone know where you can get it for the 5 lug?

[EP3_Souljah]

those of you running the 12.2" wilwood kit. is it exactly the same or a bit different from the fast brakes 12.2" kit?? i looking ot see if i could get some dimensions off someone running these brakes so that i can order my work rims :)

[MugsyTheGr8]

those of you running the 12.2" wilwood kit. is it exactly the same or a bit different from the fast brakes 12.2" kit?? i looking ot see if i could get some dimensions off someone running these brakes so that i can order my work rims :)

you can email fastbrakes.com. i have in the past, and they have always gotten back to me within a few hours.

[J-Bird]

I did my RSX-S brake conversion used Rotora slotted rotors all around, Hawk HPS pads all around, Goodridge stainless lines all around, Motul 5.1 brake fluid and an RSX-S brake master cylinder.

[na14yu]

Stock 04-05 rotors and Endless SSS brake pads. Goodridge SS brake lines. I use either Motul RBF600 fluid or ATE Super Blue.

Good stopping power with no fade at the track, no squeal, but lots of dust.

http://widget.slide.com/rdr/1/1/3/W/26000000006228b3/1/251/9E96TLTF6T85ff9u85z7fG-5rWoSiYr3.jpg (http://www.slide.com/s/lriOgIKV1D8ZnfKCrs4tGkFmOgDjCRhX?referrer=hlnk)

[chuck83]

would the RSX wilwood kit fit 5 lug ep's?

[bmyers4321]

would the RSX wilwood kit fit 5 lug ep's?
i believe they are the same part #'s as the 04-05 si

[sLiCk]

Stock 04-05 rotors and Endless SSS brake pads. Goodridge SS brake lines. I use either Motul RBF600 fluid or ATE Super Blue.

Good stopping power with no fade at the track, no squeal, but lots of dust.

http://widget.slide.com/rdr/1/1/3/W/26000000006228b3/1/251/9E96TLTF6T85ff9u85z7fG-5rWoSiYr3.jpg (http://www.slide.com/s/lriOgIKV1D8ZnfKCrs4tGkFmOgDjCRhX?referrer=hlnk)

what size and offset are those rpf1's?

[na14yu]

what size and offset are those rpf1's?

17x7.5, +48

[chuck83]

i believe they are the same part #'s as the 04-05 si

i can't even find a listing for 04-05 ep's :mfrown:

[nightbear]

i can't even find a listing for 04-05 ep's :mfrown:

neither can i

[v1c10us]

neither can i

To the OP(cant type your name, moschini or something, sorry)
I don't know if you've purchased the pads already, but I recently put the Endless SS S-sport pads on and they're amazing, worlds better than the hawk HPS, there is a little more brake dust but they bite so much better.
they have quite a few pads although not all of them are available for the ep3(not sure about the rsx-s since those are the calipers you have now)
i want to try the cc-a next.
http://endlessusa.com/category.php?c=brakepad

[Windchaser]

^^^
Hey, do you still have your brake shield on? If you remove the shield, it should decrease the dust tremendously, but make sure to wash your wheels every week =).

[phister]

tru that, my wheels get dirty quick since my brake shields are off. I clean them about every other day if I can or at least once a week. I spray the brakes down with brake cleaner then wash them with water.

[liquid cooled]

Wait do the shields cause more or less dust?

[na14yu]

To the OP(cant type your name, moschini or something, sorry)
I don't know if you've purchased the pads already, but I recently put the Endless SS S-sport pads on and they're amazing, worlds better than the hawk HPS, there is a little more brake dust but they bite so much better.
they have quite a few pads although not all of them are available for the ep3(not sure about the rsx-s since those are the calipers you have now)
i want to try the cc-a next.
http://endlessusa.com/category.php?c=brakepad

I do like the Endless SS-S pads quite a bit.

I have a set of Endless CC-R pads just sitting around that I hope to try out at the track some day.

[na14yu]

I remove the brake shield but haven't had the car out at a track event with them off yet. So far for street driving, I'm not seeing any difference in terms of increased or decreased dusting with the shield off.

[nightbear]

^^^
Hey, do you still have your brake shield on? If you remove the shield, it should decrease the dust tremendously, but make sure to wash your wheels every week =).


tru that, my wheels get dirty quick since my brake shields are off. I clean them about every other day if I can or at least once a week. I spray the brakes down with brake cleaner then wash them with water.

so is it more dust on or off?

[nightbear]

i was trying to look for the wilwood brake kit on summitracing.com but it seems like they only make it for 4 lugs.

does anyone know where you can get it for the 5 lug?

same question

[adrian1281]

The Wilwood 12.2" kit in 4-lug is 140-6163 and in 5-lug is 140-7014. Taken from here: http://www.wilwood.com/BrakeKits/Pages/07/index.asp

[civictype_r04]

I tried a set of Powerslot plus BBK and they sucked big time, no pad worked well with them. Then after the A2 swap I deciided to do a typeS 5lug and brake swap. Those were real good, probably the best DD and occaisional back road driver brakes going. BUT I needed some more protection against fade seeing I LIVE in the mtns, so this is what I went with..

Wilwood 12.2"
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g96/talonxracer/IMG_0545.jpg

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g96/talonxracer/IMG_0478.jpg

The brakes have a MUCH smoother brake pedal with alot better control with no surprise mushy pedal after a spirited run or two taking the long way to town. And they have held up VERY well thru a nasty winter, better than a set of stock rotors and calipers.

I want that kit where did you get it? Also how much was it?

[chuck83]

The Wilwood 12.2" kit in 4-lug is 140-6163 and in 5-lug is 140-7014. Taken from here: http://www.wilwood.com/BrakeKits/Pages/07/index.asp

thanks dude :mcool:

[cerebrous]

Same setup as OP.... Not installed yet... Mochini how did you find your dc5-s upgrade?

[20CiviC02Si]

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k136/20Civic02Si/Chicago%20Auto%20Show/DSC00283.jpg

[liquid cooled]

How much fluid is needed to do the entire brake system, also how do you do a flush, i know how to bleed them and what not from the helms but im switching over to MOTUL synthetic when i do my RSX-S calipers, rotors, SS lines, and RSX-S master cylinder?

[sLiCk]

How much fluid is needed to do the entire brake system, also how do you do a flush, i know how to bleed them and what not from the helms but im switching over to MOTUL synthetic when i do my RSX-S calipers, rotors, SS lines, and RSX-S master cylinder?

You'll need 2-3 bottles if you want to flush it all out.

[player757]

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k136/20Civic02Si/Chicago%20Auto%20Show/DSC00283.jpg

which kit is this, the 11" or 12"? also do you notice any break fade due to not having slotted and cross drilled disks.

[v1c10us]

^^^
Hey, do you still have your brake shield on? If you remove the shield, it should decrease the dust tremendously, but make sure to wash your wheels every week =).

no the dust shields are cut to shit, practically gone, but technically still attached.
But I dont think removing them helped get rid of dust, if anything it just let it go everywhere now.

[Windchaser]

no the dust shields are cut to shit, practically gone, but technically still attached.
But I dont think removing them helped get rid of dust, if anything it just let it go everywhere now.

removing the brake shield decreases the brake corrosion on your braking systems but leads to more brake dust on your wheels. Why did you cut your brake shields, especially if you are on stock calipers?

[Windchaser]

which kit is this, the 11" or 12"? also do you notice any break fade due to not having slotted and cross drilled disks.

brake fades are usually caused from pads and fluid use.

[soncep]

I got a setup from this guy on e-bay.
http://myworld.ebay.ca/silverstonemr*/

Got the xdrilled disks that are plated
Got the Semi metalic pads
and the stainless lines.
At the same time, i changed the fluid for prestone synthetic dot4 fluid.

Well, I am happy with the feel of the brakes. They feel like they realy want to slow you down. I will have to try some abuse to see if they fade or cook, but i have a feeling they will hold up quite nice.

All for under 250$, it's a good deal.

[player757]

brake fades are usually caused from pads and fluid use.

whats the purpose of slotted and vented disks then?

[ricardoachata]

I got the Rotora's and I like them a whole hell of alot better than stock w/pads. Only drawback is the price of replacement pads, like $115 or so :meek: just putting Hawks in the back seemed to make quite a bit of difference though :mcool:

sorry...best I could do on brake pics :mredface:

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn116/siborg-ep/IMG_0660-1.jpg
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn116/siborg-ep/IMG_0534.jpg
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn116/siborg-ep/IMG_0659-1.jpg

wow looks sick dude, those r 18s right? and how dropped its your ride?

[nightbear]

didnt someone say something about not being able to use stock wheels with the wilwood kit? i mean its not realy a problem with me i have 17's but i was just wondering in case i ever wanna throw my stockies on, the 04-05 ones.

[liquid cooled]

whats the purpose of slotted and vented disks then?

Looks, i wouldnt run drilled, they tend to crack

[20CiviC02Si]

which kit is this, the 11" or 12"? also do you notice any break fade due to not having slotted and cross drilled disks.It is the Dynalite kit with 12" rotors. I don't notice any fade with this kit. I would probably consider slotted rotors next, however i think i am just going to rock the blank faced rotors. Don't get cross drilled, sure they are a little light and help a little more by keeping temps down. But you will crack them within a couple track days.

[dustyboner]

front: rotora big brake kit
rear: rotora rear slotted rotors, axxis ultimate pads, ss lines

pros: stops the wheels from rotating really fuckin quick, they look really fuckin good
cons: can't fit smaller than a 17" rim - so no smaller rims with slicks for the track - really sucks ass at the track(w/o slicks, no traction in 1st and most of 2nd gear)

http://www0.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/00940b84bd3aa77a7d034e5a16d8ae596g.jpg

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa147/dustyboner/si/DSC01568.jpg

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa147/dustyboner/si/more%20si/DSC01569.jpg

[b.r.i.a.n.]

i have an 03 ep3. i went with the rsx-s 5 lug setup and larger front brakes and rotors. i've had this setup for over a year with no problem. oem seems like the best way to go for daily drivers.