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Blah1219
06-09-2008, 02:22 PM
If i swap a k20a2 in a ep3, am i going to have to buy anything extra for the swap or do i just need a complete k20a2 swap

i just need to be pointed in the right direction

civicsibaby04
06-09-2008, 03:15 PM
If i swap a k20a2 in a ep3, am i going to have to buy anything extra for the swap or do i just need a complete k20a2 swap

i just need to be pointed in the right direction

the k20a2 drops right in an ep3. all you have to do is mod the shifter so you can get in reverse. you only have to mod the shifter if you use the k20a2 6 speed. you will also need an k20a2 ecu or kpro

Blah1219
06-09-2008, 03:39 PM
the k20a2 drops right in an ep3. all you have to do is mod the shifter so you can get in reverse. you only have to mod the shifter if you use the k20a2 6 speed. you will also need an k20a2 ecu or kpro

thanks alot i was going to end up using k-pro
ill probably be needing it later on since i have decided im going to boost it
does it matter if i need a long block or a short block k20a2 to swap it into a ep3?

civsirmt
06-09-2008, 06:29 PM
long block, u want the head too:mbiggrin:

Gilmour
06-11-2008, 09:51 AM
I'm not to sure how much you know about K20a2 and K20a3 but the is a difference in the PS system. You'll be needing to remove this system off the K20a2 and replacing with parts off your K20a3.
http://www.acuraautomotiveparts.org/acura/jsp/mws/catimgs/14s6m0_e19.gif

I'd also change the motor mounts to aftermarket ones or to ES insert, depending as to what you have as a budget. Its also a smart time to do a clutch and fly upgrade. I know $$$ adds up quick, but spending now will save you in labour later.:nod:

Blah1219
06-11-2008, 11:35 AM
ya i have no idea what the ps system is
but i was going to upgrade to the ACT extreme clutch and prolite flywheel
would i be able to use that clutch and flywheel on street even tho it says not to
on my a3 the clutch wore out so instead of spending 1100 on a new stock clutch im now going with the a2 swap since this is my chance now
i would be able to switch out the type-s flywheel nd clutch on the a3 and sell that engine

Mikebuen
06-11-2008, 02:43 PM
Not to mention you still a have to drive down to Honda and have them recode your key to the ECU. I think it would be better to turbo the K20A3 at 8psi and you would have 105hp per liter instead of 100hp per liter and still be saving money compared to all the money the swap will add up to.

talonXracer
06-11-2008, 02:54 PM
The K20A2 drops rignt in.
You will need to get the immobilizor resynched.
The shifter "may" need to be trimmed to allow the shifter to get into reverse gear.
Use your A3 axles.
The clutch would be for a K20A2, so get some ideas from others what works well, I like the CM FX300.

Blah1219
06-11-2008, 03:15 PM
Not to mention you still a have to drive down to Honda and have them recode your key to the ECU. I think it would be better to turbo the K20A3 at 8psi and you would have 105hp per liter instead of 100hp per liter and still be saving money compared to all the money the swap will add up to.

would they still have to recode my key to the ecu if i go with k-pro?
and i dont want to stay with my a3 since i want to go with a 6 spd tranny
it would be cheaper to get a swap than going through the hassle of getting a tranny swap

lldiesel386ll
06-11-2008, 08:00 PM
would they still have to recode my key to the ecu if i go with k-pro?
and i dont want to stay with my a3 since i want to go with a 6 spd tranny
it would be cheaper to get a swap than going through the hassle of getting a tranny swap

if you go with k-pro, technically you dont have to recode the ecu, but with the immobilizer disabled you'll have that annoying key symbol flashing the entire time.

and technically you can go with a six speed transmission with your a3--you can place a tsx 6th into your five speed. you wont have the reverse lockout solenoid that the 6 speeds have, but i am sure you can order those anyway :thumb:

skoundrelusa
06-20-2008, 09:42 AM
I'm not to sure how much you know about K20a2 and K20a3 but the is a difference in the PS system. You'll be needing to remove this system off the K20a2 and replacing with parts off your K20a3.
http://www.acuraautomotiveparts.org/acura/jsp/mws/catimgs/14s6m0_e19.gif

I'd also change the motor mounts to aftermarket ones or to ES insert, depending as to what you have as a budget. Its also a smart time to do a clutch and fly upgrade. I know $$$ adds up quick, but spending now will save you in labour later.:nod:

So you have to switch from Electronic Power Steering to Hydraulic?

thisisagame24
06-20-2008, 11:28 AM
So you have to switch from Electronic Power Steering to Hydraulic?

no you just need to remove the PS pump and replace it with the EP3 tensioner and idle pully set up

Gilmour
06-20-2008, 11:44 AM
I thought my post was pretty clear, about the ps systems.

Mickey
06-20-2008, 01:27 PM
You can just K-Pro your A3 ECU and no need to go to the dealer to have the immobilizer and key resynch'ed. You dont need the reverse lock out anyway unless you dont know how to drive a manual. The reverse is just way too far to be mistaken as 6th gear.

skoundrelusa
06-20-2008, 01:28 PM
I thought my post was pretty clear, about the ps systems.

Sorry, I don't know shit about K-series, or power steering at that

jdtim
06-22-2008, 10:56 AM
so do you guys think swapping is better, or boosting the a3, dollar-to-dollar?

koftaboy
06-22-2008, 03:47 PM
HI, i have a K20A3 i was thinking about doing something to this motor like change the head to the type s head K20A or the A2 some people tell me do the whole sawp but its like $ 6000 plus another 1000 to install it i really dont have 7000 to spend or maybe more if anything goes wrong you know so is there any other way to tune the A3 from like 160 HP to like maybe 220 or 240 bolt on or K pro send it to hondata headers, catback, inatke whatever if any 1 can help with a good advise please do so thankx

koftaboy
06-22-2008, 03:54 PM
HI, i have a K20A3 i was thinking about doing something to this motor like change the head to the type s head K20A or the A2 some people tell me do the whole sawp but its like $ 6000 plus another 1000 to install it i really dont have 7000 to spend or maybe more if anything goes wrong you know so is there any other way to tune the A3 from like 160 HP to like maybe 220 or 240 bolt on or K pro send it to hondata headers, catback, inatke whatever if any 1 can help with a good advise please do so thankx

civsirmt
06-22-2008, 04:08 PM
use the search button, u can get alot of answers without waiting for a response.

illusionsoflife
07-08-2008, 02:38 AM
HI, i have a K20A3 i was thinking about doing something to this motor like change the head to the type s head K20A or the A2 some people tell me do the whole sawp but its like $ 6000 plus another 1000 to install it i really dont have 7000 to spend or maybe more if anything goes wrong you know so is there any other way to tune the A3 from like 160 HP to like maybe 220 or 240 bolt on or K pro send it to hondata headers, catback, inatke whatever if any 1 can help with a good advise please do so thankx

i know this was posted a few weeks ago but...who the hell told it 6000 for an a2? you can get them for 4k with the tranny. ive seen one with 67k miles with tranny for 2k........look around

skoundrelusa
07-08-2008, 06:34 AM
Yeah Hmotors sells full A2 swaps (engine, trans, ecu, mounts, all that shit) for like $4,000.00 + shipping