" The Projector Fog"

[MOOGEN]

Okay, I've been away from this site for awhile now because of things but I'm back and I did promise to do this write-up for all those who are interested in the e46 projector fog. If you guys like HID then these are the fogs for you. I'm against glare problems such as just throwing pnp kits into the halogen housing and calling it a day. I'd rather retrofit so that my HID is at its most effective state. Well enough talking about my mission statement...LOL here's the promised write-up.

Tools Needed:

1. Dremel with bits
2. 1" screws with threads ( qty: 6 )
3. Ruler
4. Screw Driver
5. Creative thinking!

Fog Light:

1. E46 bmw projector fog

2. Oem aftermarket fog light housing. ( the plastic part and bracket only. lense can be donated or sold)


Procedures:

1. Take the bumper off... You will need to know how to do this as I'm not going to go over this detail because there are many write-ups on it already. You must also have the fog light harness installed pre-hand in order for you projectors to work. Again I'm not going to be going over this detail.

2. With the bumper off, the first thing that you will have to do is relocate the front hornse on both sides of the bumper. When I did mines I didn't realize that they were sitting directly behind my fog lights and scratched the crap out of them.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p114/xchang03/Remount.jpg

This is the drivers side, do the same to the passenger side as well.

3. Take the projector out of its housing by unscrewing these screws.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p114/xchang03/Removal.jpg


4. Once the projector is out, figure which housing is drivers side and which is passenger side. Once done the measure the oem housing with the bmw housing for the incision.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p114/xchang03/mounting3.jpg

This is where I had to cut in order to fit properly. You want to make sure that you can still adjust the housing just incase it is aimed incorrectly.

5. Now mark you drilling location as I have done here.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p114/xchang03/mounting1.jpg

Note* see the blue line, that's my horizontal line of refference. This line is determined by lining the set of mounting holes with each other so that they are parallel.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p114/xchang03/mounting2.jpg

6. Once securely screwed in, gape the projector mounting holes as such to allow rotational adjustments.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p114/xchang03/Hole.jpg

7. Splice the wires so that your projectors can have power.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p114/xchang03/harness.jpg

8. Repeat steps 2-6 with the passenger side.

9. Make the necessary adjustments so that your fogs will line up horizontally parallel to the ground. Do this on a flat surface to avoid crappy outputs.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p114/xchang03/PB120137.jpg

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p114/xchang03/Marking.jpg

this one is at the wall.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p114/xchang03/Calibrate2.jpg

This one is near the bumper. I did this to make sure that they are the same height to ensure that my projectors will have a long travel parallel to the ground and not in the air or just a hotspot on the ground.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p114/xchang03/Calibrate.jpg


heres a good example of how the output will look to oncoming traffic if you don't aim your projectors correctly or have PNP(plug and play) kits.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p114/xchang03/belowcutoff.jpg

Thats a big NO NO because you could blind mothers with srollers on the side walks.

here how the output should look.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p114/xchang03/abovecutoff.jpg

This looks like the projectors are off but thats just one of the characteristics of a projector. It should emit 60% of its light on the ground and away from the air.

Finally once you are complete with everything this is how it should look.

Halogen (T-Virus): I did these awhile back with just halogens and T- virus loved them so I sold them to him. Now remember that these are just halogens not HID.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p114/xchang03/yellowfog.jpg

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p114/xchang03/yellowfog2.jpg

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p114/xchang03/PB120138.jpg

The light disperse was awesome even for halogen alone. Now go and have fun with them at night.

[MOOGEN]

Here are some more recent pics of my current setup.

Clear lense E46 with HID. Fog alone only. I'm about 100ft away from the projected wall and the width exceedes the building.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p114/xchang03/3.jpg

with low beam

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p114/xchang03/4.jpg

alone:

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p114/xchang03/2.jpg

with low beam

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p114/xchang03/1.jpg

These projectors accept the hid kits really well so have fun experimenting with them. Enjoy the pics!

[oogy-boogy]

Excellent work and write up. I'm impressed...

[MOOGEN]

Thanks OOGY!

[rspjean]

they look great! i wants!

[Da90Ls]

Hey Moogen can these e46 lights be used or do they have to be OE?

BTW what front bumper is that? I like the lip but not so much the grill.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/01-04-BMW-E46-4DR-SPORT-02-M3-PROJECTOR-FOG-LIGHTS-BLK_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33709QQihZ020QQitem Z300234257012QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

[MugenReplica]

I can't see any pictures........darnit!!!!:mfrown:


*Installing my/your retrofits this month man. I'll shoot you pics after they are done.:mbiggrin:

[Da90Ls]

Also the link I posted above how do I know if it has clear bulbs? I do not like the dirty yellows look.

[MOOGEN]

Hey Moogen can these e46 lights be used or do they have to be OE?

BTW what front bumper is that? I like the lip but not so much the grill.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/01-04-BMW-E46-4DR-SPORT-02-M3-PROJECTOR-FOG-LIGHTS-BLK_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33709QQihZ020QQitem Z300234257012QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

yes, they can be used but the fog's shroud won't be chrome like mines LOL. The dirty look is because my camera at that moment sucked but it's actually really beautiful. It's just that blue hid and yellow lense makes green output so you kinda get the idea why I went that route.
That bumper is the oem one witht he mugen lip and grill molded onto it. I also have a da 90. GS though.

[MOOGEN]

I can't see any pictures........darnit!!!!:mfrown:


*Installing my/your retrofits this month man. I'll shoot you pics after they are done.:mbiggrin:

finally! I they are gonna look great. Let me know if you want the diy pictures.

[MugenReplica]

finally! I they are gonna look great. Let me know if you want the diy pictures.

I've been waiting to install them with some help. 2004EP3HATCH is a big wiring lighting guy like yourself. I'm a wiring noob so I'm taking them to him.:mbiggrin:

The DIY pics would be cool again. When ephatch fell I lost them. Thanks very much again man!:mbiggrin:

[MOOGEN]

I've been waiting to install them with some help. 2004EP3HATCH is a big wiring lighting guy like yourself. I'm a wiring noob so I'm taking them to him.:mbiggrin:

The DIY pics would be cool again. When ephatch fell I lost them. Thanks very much again man!:mbiggrin:

hey John, I deleted the installation photos after I sent the headlights to you :boom: . I meant the photos of the making of those headlights. Sorry! Um its really simple to install them, I remembered labeling them so that it would be simple.

[Da90Ls]

Yea my LS went through 1 auto tranny, 2 5speed trannys and 2 motors felt it was time to get rid of it for something newer and safer for my daughter. I mean it had literally nothing in it. Was a "race car" to be sarcastic that I built before I met my wife and when she got pregnant time to sell for the Ep.

They are alot alike though. What rpm Im at doing 80 in 5th for one.

[MOOGEN]

Yea my LS went through 1 auto tranny, 2 5speed trannys and 2 motors felt it was time to get rid of it for something newer and safer for my daughter. I mean it had literally nothing in it. Was a "race car" to be sarcastic that I built before I met my wife and when she got pregnant time to sell for the Ep.

They are alot alike though. What rpm Im at doing 80 in 5th for one.

Man I totally agree with you on the da. Mine is also a 90 but I swapped the engine and tranny and it now has a similliar gear ratio to the b16. It's reving like 3500 at 75 and that sucks on the gas. This car is auto also.

[Ep3 No.2]

theres been a surge of creative NICE diys. props !

[ep3civic2nr]

sick

[vtecDave]

coolest fog light mod ever! :thumb:

want to do!!!

[powdbyrice]

that's so hot.

nice work!

[T_Virus]

hahaha...nice...lol...I'm still debating on my next route...I'll let you know...

[mackyF.baby]

the yellow setup is hella sexy
:llama:

[MOOGEN]

hahaha...nice...lol...I'm still debating on my next route...I'll let you know...

hey T, yeah man whenever you feel the need for a change let me know cause the summer gives me lots of time.


the yellow setup is hella sexy
:llama:

You should tell T-virus to post up some pics of his install.


Thanks guys for all the comments.

[Da90Ls]

Hey Moo you should do a 5 spd conversion. Its unbelieavable on how much of a power difference there is.

[civictype_r04]

Nice man this should be in the diy section.

[MOOGEN]

Hey Moo you should do a 5 spd conversion. Its unbelieavable on how much of a power difference there is.

Yeah, this is my third da that i've owned. my fastest da ran 14.3 in Sacramento. it was all motor and I was pretty satisfied with it but I gave it away to my nephew and he got impounded for street racing. That's why I bought an auto LOL.

[Windchaser]

Yeah, this is my third da that i've owned. my fastest da ran 14.3 in Sacramento. it was all motor and I was pretty satisfied with it but I gave it away to my nephew and he got impounded for street racing. That's why I bought an auto LOL.

My EM1 ran 13.6 all-motor. Than I sold it and my homie crashed it. Badass write up YO!!!

[Princess]

"E46 bmw projector fog"
how much do they cost from the BMW dealership?

great write-up, the results look great.

[MOOGEN]

"E46 bmw projector fog"
how much do they cost from the BMW dealership?

great write-up, the results look great.

don't buy it from the dealer. I don't believe that they will have it either cause its an aftermarket product for the bmw e46. If you want it then just get them from ebay for like ~60 bucks or so.

[T_Virus]

hey T, yeah man whenever you feel the need for a change let me know cause the summer gives me lots of time.



You should tell T-virus to post up some pics of his install.


Thanks guys for all the comments.

I had some pics but since EPhatch crashed, they're gone...whenever I go to my brother's house and borrow his digicam, I'll take some pics...

I'm thinking about going with the hid's but not sure if hid's with glare shield on the 02-03 headlights or hids' on the fog lights...I'm aiming towards the hids with the projector fogs...Didn't you have another project that you were working on? projectors on 02-03 headlights? We'll I'm going to be in the Atwater area on July 4th...I need a diy ground wires...maybe I'll drop by and hopfully Kyle would be around too for the ground wires...give me your recommendations.:mbiggrin:

[MOOGEN]

I had some pics but since EPhatch crashed, they're gone...whenever I go to my brother's house and borrow his digicam, I'll take some pics...

I'm thinking about going with the hid's but not sure if hid's with glare shield on the 02-03 headlights or hids' on the fog lights...I'm aiming towards the hids with the projector fogs...Didn't you have another project that you were working on? projectors on 02-03 headlights? We'll I'm going to be in the Atwater area on July 4th...I need a diy ground wires...maybe I'll drop by and hopfully Kyle would be around too for the ground wires...give me your recommendations.:mbiggrin:

dude your living in the 21st century, get yourself a nice digital camera. LOL.:msmooch:

[Schizophonic]

Didn't Type-X write this or you him from the Forums change....:msmooch:

[Da90Ls]

You know Moo everything was fine except one detail. How far away from the wall was the bumper when you were getting those measurements? And how high off the ground was it? Those are key factors dont you think? If I had my bumper 20ft from the wall 27" would be at a lower point than say 2ft off the wall wouldnt it?

[Siborg]

Very nice! I wish I still had fogs even more now. I would do this so fast if I could :mcry:

[T_Virus]

Didn't Type-X write this or you him from the Forums change....:msmooch:

lol...Type-X is Moogen...same person but user name change...

[MOOGEN]

Didn't Type-X write this or you him from the Forums change....:msmooch:

LOL... yeah that was me then but this is the new me now. That SN is discretely for Mike only now.



You know Moo everything was fine except one detail. How far away from the wall was the bumper when you were getting those measurements? And how high off the ground was it? Those are key factors dont you think? If I had my bumper 20ft from the wall 27" would be at a lower point than say 2ft off the wall wouldnt it?

You got a good point. My reasoning for that is because my car is slightly lower in the front as comparted to the rear so if I aim the beam pattern parallel to the ground It would eventually come to a stop. In that photo, the reason why it traveled so far is beacause the ground suface wasn't perfectly leveled.... but doesn't it look better that way. Still doesn't cause glare and that's the beauty behind projectors.


Very nice! I wish I still had fogs even more now. I would do this so fast if I could :mcry:

It's alright, having turbo is much better advantage... well I guess not with this gas price. :mwink:

[Windchaser]

blah . . . I tried calling you a couple of days ago, but you "no pick up".

[Da90Ls]

So what is the best way to make sure mine don't blind lady's with strollers?

[Da90Ls]

Hey Moo if I buy all the parts the OE fogs, E46 Fogs, and HID Kit and ship it to you can you put it all together for me?

I could send a couple extra bucks your way too. Or can I send you all the stuff and you sell me your and redo yours?

If so give me a full parts list just

1.) oe fogs
2.) e46 fogs
3.) which HID kit
4.) whatever extra
5.) couple bucks for you

of what you need and it'll be coming your way. That would be cool if you could do it for me. Im not the greatest at things like this.

[MOOGEN]

blah . . . I tried calling you a couple of days ago, but you "no pick up".


whatcha called me for?

[Windchaser]

I just needed the paint mixtures, but I figured it out.

[Siborg]

It's alright, having turbo is much better advantage... well I guess not with this gas price. :mwink:
Oh snap :brick: :caked: true true :Cry:haha.

[MOOGEN]

I just needed the paint mixtures, but I figured it out.

good I wanna see your paint job when finished.

[Mikebuen]

Man those Fog lights are SWEET!!!!!!!!!!

[MOOGEN]

Man those Fog lights are SWEET!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks!

[EP3_U_SEE]

THE BEST DIY EVER!!!!!

Looks like a million buks from stock:mtongue:

[trogdor48430]

very nice

[MOOGEN]

THE BEST DIY EVER!!!!!

Looks like a million buks from stock:mtongue:


very nice


thanks guys! I hope you all try it.

[illusionsoflife]

sell me yours

[T_Virus]

I got my HIDs...I'll let you know once I come down...and hopefully this time I won't forget the endlinks...

[MOOGEN]

I got my HIDs...I'll let you know once I come down...and hopefully this time I won't forget the endlinks...


T, things got complicated so I had to move out of my bros house into an apartment. I won't be able to help you install those things until I can find a house. I can help with the HID but not with the endlinks. KIT and LMK.

[Windchaser]

I got my HIDs...I'll let you know once I come down...and hopefully this time I won't forget the endlinks...

T I would help you, but my compressor went out and my tools are totally useless right now. Gawd, stupid Craftsman compressor.

[ep3moschini]

I did HID foglights. . . they melted :mfrown:

[MOOGEN]

I did HID foglights. . . they melted :mfrown:

:meek: are you serious? I've had these for a year and still no problem. I rechecked the chrome and it still looks like the day I bought them.

[T_Virus]

T, things got complicated so I had to move out of my bros house into an apartment. I won't be able to help you install those things until I can find a house. I can help with the HID but not with the endlinks. KIT and LMK.

Oh man sorry to hear...but I'll give you a call whenever...I'm in no rush...

[T_Virus]

T I would help you, but my compressor went out and my tools are totally useless right now. Gawd, stupid Craftsman compressor.

Thanks Jerry...but I thought Craftsman was good...

[ep3moschini]

:meek: are you serious? I've had these for a year and still no problem. I rechecked the chrome and it still looks like the day I bought them.

they were the ebay ones, then I got glass foglights lol

[blackyEP3]

NICE!!!!!!:mcool:

[EP3_U_SEE]

BEST FOG LIGHTS I"VE EVER SEEN! :mtongue::mtongue::mtongue:

[Chad]

Well today I noticed my FOURTH cracked lens on my foglamps... it's on.

[MOOGEN]

Well today I noticed my FOURTH cracked lens on my foglamps... it's on.

yah, and you still need to donate a pair of those crackheads for me to experiment chad. lmk if you need any assistance. Oh btw I got me a spv44!

[Chad]

Well from the first pair one got completely obliterated and BAD.... these are jsut cracked so the innards are still in tact.

I had thought of experimenting too, are you thinking what I'm thinking?

How does the SPV44 fit? pertty well?

[oneglory]

I'm aching to do this. very soon...

[MOOGEN]

Well from the first pair one got completely obliterated and BAD.... these are jsut cracked so the innards are still in tact.

I had thought of experimenting too, are you thinking what I'm thinking?

How does the SPV44 fit? pertty well?

Oh I don't need any of the lens to be intact as they will completely be changed. If I'm thinking right then yes we are thinking the same thing...lols.

Yeah, I saw your writeup on audio forum or something like that and you had mentioned that you wished you woulda just went up to the 44 and I was like damn I could really make chad jealous by getting it haaha. Fitment wise, it fits nicely but snug. Nothing rubs as it's not long enough but it sure is wide. I was still able to reuse my stock battery tie down surprisingly. The stock neg terminal fits just fine without having to modify.

[MadLorEP3]

nice write up

[Chad]

I was going to cut the back off the Ebay one, leave the mounting shit and ATTEMPT to drop the projector housing in the ebay modded reflector so I could retain elevation adjustment as it were stock ;)

My next battery :D

Here is a 36V cell I built for my shop UPS.... Imagine this sans duct-tape in an aluminum case ;)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y231/cwahls/Computers/DSC_0347.jpg

At 12V wired (parallel) that's 51AH and I got 4 of those bastards for 100 bucks! 3 of them are INSANE on the UPS considering the load I am presenting.

[MOOGEN]

Yah, we were on the same page but I got some different projectors now and they are even hotter than the one's I retrofitted with. I'll reveal it when I get my hands on a set of broken reflectors lols. You really can't ignore the dept with the e46's because they were made the have the long tail. Post pics when finished.

Dude, what are you running that requires 36v?

[Chad]

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y231/cwahls/Computers/DSC_0333.jpg

And well... we will see. depending on how you trim and fill you could redue that rear depth by a bit... you would stil have to move the horn likely... big deal right? But I have this idea fror a nice transition with no gappage.

[MOOGEN]

Nice... Yes, by pushing it forward towards the lens will give slightly more space. Remember to post pics when completed chad.

[oneglory]

can you make me a set of those?

[MOOGEN]

Oneglory, are you talking to me? I'm thinking about selling my set. LMK if you are interested so I can post it in the for sale section.

[oneglory]

Oneglory, are you talking to me? I'm thinking about selling my set. LMK if you are interested so I can post it in the for sale section.

hell ya im talking to you.

pm sent.

[MOOGEN]

Let me know if you want to see pics of them.

[T_Virus]

Let me know if you want to see pics of them.

so what are you going with next?

[thisisagame24]

any idea if these retro fits will work with the JDM bumpers since the origial e46 ones didnt?

[oneglory]

Let me know if you want to see pics of them.

ya, do you have more?

[scorpionsf]

i would be interested in these moogen. that output against the building is amazing!!!

[MOOGEN]

any idea if these retro fits will work with the JDM bumpers since the origial e46 ones didnt?

I'm thinking of going with a new gun... The new ones will definately work for jdm bumpers but It's going to be rare cause I can't seem to locate anymore of these specific projectors.

[MOOGEN]

so what are you going with next?

I dk either T, Maybe just a complete part out and get me a truck or something.

[MOOGEN]

i would be interested in these moogen. that output against the building is amazing!!!

The ones for sale are the yellow ones. The clear ones are already bought by T-Virus. Those are hid, the ones I'm selling are only halogen. The output is still great though. I'll post pics tonight.

[thisisagame24]

I'm thinking of going with a new gun... The new ones will definately work for jdm bumpers but It's going to be rare cause I can't seem to locate anymore of these specific projectors.

what projectors do you need for these?

[MOOGEN]

what projectors do you need for these?

(Whispers)It's a secret... Lol. I'll post finished pics later on down the line.

[thisisagame24]

gont give me any of that jibba jabba

[ShadowEP3]

DIBS :mangel:


my HIDs on my fogs went out on saturday..im thinking this will be better

[oneglory]

DIBS :mangel:


my HIDs on my fogs went out on saturday..im thinking this will be better


you're way late!

[MOOGEN]

ya, do you have more?

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p114/xchang03/YellowFogs3.jpg

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p114/xchang03/YellowFogs2.jpg

These were taken tonight with my 35 1.8... Hmmm nice and milky.

Remember these are pretty powerful by themselves. They can easily drown out your stock headlights and make the ground very yellow. The actual lens are kinda bluish(really cool).

[MOOGEN]

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p114/xchang03/FG5ed.jpg

This is how it would look if you had edm hid projectors.

[ShadowEP3]

dammit i want :mmad:

should i buy these?:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/01-02-03-04-05-06-BMW-E46-M3-PROJECTOR-BUMPER-FOG-LIGHT-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem53dd92fd36QQitemZ36019 9683382QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccesso ries

[T_Virus]

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p114/xchang03/YellowFogs3.jpg

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p114/xchang03/YellowFogs2.jpg

These were taken tonight with my 35 1.8... Hmmm nice and milky.

Remember these are pretty powerful by themselves. They can easily drown out your stock headlights and make the ground very yellow. The actual lens are kinda bluish(really cool).

PUNK, it still looks better and solid than mine....But I think you are right...it might be my battery...but I still like your blueish lens though...They look way better in the day than the clear ones.

[beechstreet]

Clear lense E46 with HID. Fog alone only. I'm about 100ft away from the projected wall and the width exceedes the building.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p114/xchang03/3.jpg


:meek: me want me want :mtongue:

[MOOGEN]

PUNK, it still looks better and solid than mine....But I think you are right...it might be my battery...but I still like your blueish lens though...They look way better in the day than the clear ones.

T, everything looks better when I have them lols. Change your battery man.


:meek: me want me want :mtongue:

Really?

[scorpionsf]

yeah i would really want a set of HID ones. that light output is just soooo ming blowing on the clear lense HID.

[Chad]

You can't wire them "ebay style" with HID or it will burn them up with the flashes on lock/unlock. BUT there are companies that sell a timed switch that allows that so you can put a "beep" on a factory alarm "honk" nomesayin? Honk is time suppressed, beep is triggered.. use the honk output for the lamps.

if not DIY the on with a 555 timer, a drive transistor, and a relay.

[oneglory]

You can't wire them "ebay style" with HID or it will burn them up wiht the flashes on lock/unlock. BUT there ae companies that sell a timed switch that allows that so you can put a "beep" on a factory alarm "honk" nomesayin? Honk is time supressed, beep is triggered.. use the honk output for the lamps.

if not DIY the on with a 555 timer, a drive transistor, and a relay.

Chad. elaborate here please.

I'm thinking about doing the timed fog light thing on door lock like jeeps and what not. however it'll probably drain the batt though.

[Chad]

Chad. elaborate here please.

I'm thinking about doing the timed fog light thing on door lock like jeeps and what not. however it'll probably drain the batt though.

Well... I'll have to prepare myself..... I was just trying to say that if you THINK about trying a flash with HID's it will suck bad for you later. The ebay harness flashes with the parking lamps...and dash which is where that relay is triggered.

I'll try to find you some timing stuffs.

[MOOGEN]

I completely agree with you chad. HID and flash is not a great combo as HID's cannot be quickly turned on and off. It may lead to some serious consequences i.e. harness melting or worse a fire. This will also reduce the life of the ballast. The ebay harness is fine but you must always remember to turn off the switch after each use. It does flash with the parking lamp only when the switch is closed.

[Chad]

Well if not done right you have to worry about the ballasts and lamps. With a delay no worries.. I REFUSE to deal with shutting off a switch, idiot proof is the way to go even if you have to mod the shit out of it... think abut the next owner.

[MOOGEN]

Why do you think I haven't done the honda switch mod yet lols. Everything is automated for me haaha. HID does get in the way in terms of compatibility because it is just too damn sensitive.

[Chad]

I'm getting into RFID... The car knows you.
It's WAY out of warranty and WAY paid off.
Play with it.

[beechstreet]

Really?

yeah, looks great. excellent job

[MOOGEN]

yeah, looks great. excellent job

Thanks Bro!

[krylonking]

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c188/skunk2_teg/Photo0182-1.jpg I actually did this a while back before the crash just never posted pics. I used the black e46 fogs, I will get better pics later. I love these things way better then the factory ones.

[thisisagame24]

i'm getting into rfid... The car knows you.
It's way out of warranty and way paid off.
Play with it.

rfid?

[Chad]

rfid?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio-frequency_identification

[thisisagame24]

holy hell that seems complicated haha

[Chad]

Imagine this. you have a keyFOB in your pocket and as you approach your car your doors unlock and say a carPC begins to boot. sitting in the seat anbd getting closer to another receiver enables a push to start button, you push it and your off with a fully booted computer playing your favorite Tiny Tim album.

[MOOGEN]

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c188/skunk2_teg/Photo0182-1.jpg I actually did this a while back before the crash just never posted pics. I used the black e46 fogs, I will get better pics later. I love these things way better then the factory ones.

Damn... Nice man Well worth it huh? I demand output pics haaha.

[ShadowEP3]

I know this is off topic nd what not but i was wondering..would DC2 projectors be any good for a headlight retrofit?

[MOOGEN]

I know this is off topic nd what not but i was wondering..would DC2 projectors be any good for a headlight retrofit?

No. dc2 projectors have a bracket that connect the high and low together. If you were able to get them trimmed they are still just halogen projectors. Many halogen projectors tend to have hotspots when hid is thrown in them. They are an inferior design to many cheaper hid projectors. Hope that helps.

[krylonking]

Damn... Nice man Well worth it huh? I demand output pics haaha.
Ill try i am actually working on the front end now I got backed into a while back. Now that it is down I am replacing some stuff. I will be adding HIDs and maybe trying to make a custom fiberglass fog bezel made for the e46 fogs.

[Chad]

projectors ordered.. those are H3's right?

[MOOGEN]

projectors ordered.. those are H3's right?

yeppo!

[Chad]

yeppo!

Off to order HID's, got the delay circuit for the keyless entry blink designed and prototyped tonight.

Thank you sir!

[oneglory]

Off to order HID's, got the delay circuit for the keyless entry blink designed and prototyped tonight.

Thank you sir!

:rubs hands together:

[MOOGEN]

Off to order HID's, got the delay circuit for the keyless entry blink designed and prototyped tonight.

Thank you sir!

No prob. hey bro, did you order h3 or h3c? h3 is more reliable but h3c has better focal point.

[Chad]

have not ordered yet... still shopping.

[Chad]

No prob. hey bro, did you order h3 or h3c? h3 is more reliable but h3c has better focal point.


What's the difference? skool my old ass.

[ShadowEP3]

What's the difference? skool my old ass.

size? :shrug:
heres a pix of a h3 and h3c bulb
http://www.lexls.com/images/H3/P1010002.jpg

[MOOGEN]

What's the difference? skool my old ass.

H3C
http://img.diytrade.com/cdimg/562387/7768062/0/1230628520/H3C_Fog_Light_12v_35w.jpg


H3
http://www.chinesemol.com/member/upload/product/86263203/2007861345821346.jpg

[Chad]

Oh wow...... Well...I can see how the H3c is going to hit the focal point of the lens better now!

In terms of reliability..... what are we talking here?

Does it matter if the assembly was designed for the 3 or 3C from the getgo or is the 3C just always gonna rock harder in that housing?

[MOOGEN]

Oh wow...... Well...I can see how the H3c is going to hit the focal point of the lens better now!

In terms of reliability..... what are we talking here?

Does it matter if the assembly was designed for the 3 or 3C from the getgo or is the 3C just always gonna rock harder in that housing?

Me personally... If I can source more h3c's I would go that route because they do perform a whole lot better. I used to have 2 sets but sold them cheap awhile back cause I thought my retro days were over. No, it doesn't matter even though the regular h3 are just rebased d2s type burners. The advantage with h3c are that because they don't have the negative lead it will less likely disrupt the output. In terms of reliability, I'd say about 6 months give or take.

[Chad]

In terms of reliability, I'd say about 6 months give or take.

Ouch! That sucks. Since there is not as much glass there to dissipate heat I see the issue, when they go do they just burn up the electrodes or is there an epic failure event due to the temp gradient of the capsule since the arc is at ONE END.

[Chad]

got the delay circuit for the keyless entry blink designed and prototyped tonight.



:rubs hands together:


DURRR HURRRRRRR........

Easy way to suppress blink...

Relay triggered by the ignition on position, this relay cuts high current power, shit it can even be used to disable the fog switch.... this way if the ignition is not on the HID's don't come on.... AKA no blink!

What's even sadder is I have BOTH of those relays already installed, one brings a switched feed from the battery.... Bringing 12V in from under the hood into the drivers foot-well on 8Ga wire. Perfect... don't use fuse box feed for the fogs, use battery feed off of that relay to power HID ballasts.... one wire swapped, done deal. fog power relay will pulse with the blinks but since the ignition is not on supplying power to the contacts of said relay... no blinky.

I was WAY-HAY overthinking that one.... why didn't one of you suckas slap a foo?

[MOOGEN]

Ouch! That sucks. Since there is not as much glass there to dissipate heat I see the issue, when they go do they just burn up the electrodes or is there an epic failure event due to the temp gradient of the capsule since the arc is at ONE END.

The worse for me was the arc blew a hole in the glass.

[Chad]

The worse for me was the arc blew a hole in the glass.

sometimes those things just essplode you now?

Having a hard time finding inexpensive H3c kits, I can find H3 all day long. I may rock halogen till I get a walking cash surplus.

[MOOGEN]

sometimes those things just essplode you now?

Having a hard time finding inexpensive H3c kits, I can find H3 all day long. I may rock halogen till I get a walking cash surplus.

To be honest, since I like the blinking when I lock and unlock the car the halogen is much better. It's still very bright.

[Chad]

Everything will still blink but the fogs, that's fine with me.

[T_Virus]

Me personally... If I can source more h3c's I would go that route because they do perform a whole lot better. I used to have 2 sets but sold them cheap awhile back cause I thought my retro days were over. No, it doesn't matter even though the regular h3 are just rebased d2s type burners. The advantage with h3c are that because they don't have the negative lead it will less likely disrupt the output. In terms of reliability, I'd say about 6 months give or take.

LoL, tell me about it...remember my fogs...I went with H3C then to H3...

[Chad]

and you thought the H3's were meh?

[Chad]

Cock... Nugget.....

I ordered them Saturday, they did not ship them out till Tueday at 9 PM something my time.. Meaning that they will not arrive till Monday from Commiefornia.

And guess what it's supposed to do here all weekend? RAIN..... that's right I could be sitting on my ass getting this done while it's RAINING. But instead I'll be sitting around getting drunk....

Ball-Lickers I tell you.

[ShadowEP3]

hey hey hey...were not all Commies :mwink:
id rather get drunk too..:mwink:

they do take a long time with shipping..i thought i woulda got mine in 2-3 days since the place they ship it from is about 30 min. away from where i live..got it almost a week later.


anywho...the retrofit is almost done..just waiting on getting outta school to finish it up.
i retrofitted some yellow capsules from a 92 Integra into the projectors that way i dont haveta purchase yellow bulbs

i hope it gets done by tonite..if so ill post pix :msmile:

[Chad]

I was kinda expecting metal benzels (not projectors housings but flanges). They also have some weird angles to contend withn... Could be a unique retrofit. I REALLY want to retain the stiock elevation adjustment.

[ShadowEP3]

its finally done =)

one problem..comparing them with Moogens set these hardly give out the light output i was expecting.
they are weaker than my original set of fogs

any suggestions as to what the problem could be?
im thinking that maybe the yellow capsules are making the light output weaker since the capsules are stationed at the tip of where the bulb sticks out inside the housing

[Chad]

well yeah, the position of the arc needs to be at the focal point of the reflector. were they originally H3 capsules? Look at a HID size comparo chart and note the different depths.

Where's the pics? :msmooch:

[ShadowEP3]

well yeah, the position of the arc needs to be at the focal point of the reflector. were they originally H3 capsules? Look at a HID size comparo chart and note the different depths.

Where's the pics? :msmooch:

yup they are..guess ima have some more work to do

no camera :mangel:..i lent it to my friend as his Nikon got stolen and he needs to borrow it for class
phone pictures maybe? :mangel:

[Chad]

Well shit, I ordered H3's going against the H3c recommendation due to the price, availability and longevity..... I guess I'll know in a couple weeks.

[Chad]

I bought some H3 lamps this afternoon to replace the ricer blue ones the fogs came with. I took a measurement for you...

from the filament side of the flange where it seats into the housing the filament is approx19MM away on the new ones and 17MM away on the ricer blue ones.

Does your capsule fall anywhere close to that measuring from the seating side of the H3 flange?

[Chad]

I have sooo just gutted an ebay foglight assembly and got the BMW fog in it.. it will take little body work to make it look OEM. AND I retained the OEM height adjustment.

[thisisagame24]

pics or it didnt happen

[Chad]

Trial run off of an old housing. After some body filler to fill in where the oval left off and some paint it should look damn OK.


http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y231/cwahls/civic/BMW%20foglight%20assembly/DSC_0621.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y231/cwahls/civic/BMW%20foglight%20assembly/DSC_0623.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y231/cwahls/civic/BMW%20foglight%20assembly/DSC_0624.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y231/cwahls/civic/BMW%20foglight%20assembly/DSC_0625.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y231/cwahls/civic/BMW%20foglight%20assembly/DSC_0626.jpg

FWIW the angle of inward toe for the bumper you need is 72 degrees on the dot.. BMW uses 70 degrees.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y231/cwahls/civic/BMW%20foglight%20assembly/DSC_0627.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y231/cwahls/civic/BMW%20foglight%20assembly/DSC_0628.jpg

[Chad]

pics or it didnt happen

take that sucka:mtongue:

[Chad]

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y231/cwahls/Goofy%20Shit%20II/great-success_19828543.jpg

FINALLY got a chance to mount one up tonight.

The cutoff is flat and level on the first one.. gonna button it up tomorrow night, do the second one and then make them pretty.

[oneglory]

pics or it didn't happen. again.

[Sucka]

looks good!

[usedep3]

damn Chad, you make it look so easy. it looks great

[Chad]

pics or it didn't happen. again.

LOL, I didn't get any last night. I'll try to get some tonight when I dial in the second one. It was still too light out to realy get a good cutoff line pic... especially against a brown garage door.

[Chad]

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y231/cwahls/civic/BMW%20foglight%20assembly/DSC_0683.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y231/cwahls/civic/BMW%20foglight%20assembly/DSC_0671.jpg

Teaser!

Waiting on some shade to do the rough alignment then epoxy the rough adjustment mount, from there-out I wait 4 hours and fine tune it with the stock adjustments.

I'll get some pics of the funky eggs in the sun, the shade makes them look funny.

[thisisagame24]

too bad that wont fit with a JDM bumper:mfrown:

[Chad]

If you can use Honda frames to retrofit BMW fogs in dead straight then a JDM bumper is child's play.

Time to take a tool count, then go buy some beer. :mwink:

[thisisagame24]

how so? i tried and the projector is too long. i'm semi retarded and don't have the tools or knowledge on cutting up projectors to make them small. maybe you can learn me mang

[Chad]

is the bumper too close in total or are you hitting, say, the horns... the horns have to be moved.

I actually canted mine up and re-did the stay.

Also! Keep in mind, this design pulls the ass end farther forward by quite a bit, see side pic. How much of the housing was hitting?

[thisisagame24]

at first i thought it was the horns. so i moved them and it still its. im not 100% sure on what part it was hitting. but yes the bumper is a lot closer than the USDM bumper

[Chad]

Do you still have the projector housings?

[thisisagame24]

negative.... i sold them months ago after seeing they were too long. i might pick up another set if you think it will work?

[Chad]

Depends on how much too long they were.

Too long don't do much for anyone.. I can put 20 Lbs of shit in a 10Lb bag.....

[thisisagame24]

how would you shorten them with out messing up the focal point on the projector? or does it not matter how far the bulb is from the lens?

[Chad]

you still use a frame of the stock ebay housing, this pulls the whole assembly forward..... I need to measure how much though.

[thisisagame24]

ill see what i can do to get some measurments for you

[MOOGEN]

Teaser!

Waiting on some shade to do the rough alignment then epoxy the rough adjustment mount, from there-out I wait 4 hours and fine tune it with the stock adjustments.

I'll get some pics of the funky eggs in the sun, the shade makes them look funny.

Damn chad! Almost as good as mine lols. Naw you perfected it. Seems like you did a lot of trimming. I wasn't as brave as you. GJ!

[oneglory]

ya:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y84/oneglory/10009871.jpg

[Chad]

Once it's in the old housing you can just go nucking futs with the trimming :D It's not that bad at all.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y231/cwahls/civic/BMW%20foglight%20assembly/DSC_0670.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y231/cwahls/civic/BMW%20foglight%20assembly/DSC_0669.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y231/cwahls/civic/BMW%20foglight%20assembly/DSC_0657.jpg

[MOOGEN]

Ummmm.... Chad, I'm really hoping that you didn't use bondo. Cause it will start to crack as soon as you finish.

[Chad]

Put it on in layers, it will crack if you blob it in there. People that use bondo then complain it cracks thinks it really is a deep filler, it's not. It's bondo :D

The HID's will be in soon so they have to come back out. I may refinish them with rage gold. I put a semi gloss finish on them but I think I'm going flat this time.

But yeah, bondo takes patience, because it will go nuts if you don't do it right.

[oneglory]

yea, as long as its mixed well and is put on gradually it'll hold up pretty well. however, there is a lot of vibration down at the bottom of the bumper.

[ShadowEP3]

im so jealous..i wish i was better at lighting equipment

[oneglory]

chad. less talk. more pics.

[thisisagame24]

chad. less talk. more pics.

:yeahthat:

[Chad]

yea, as long as its mixed well and is put on gradually it'll hold up pretty well. however, there is a lot of vibration down at the bottom of the bumper.

But there's no vibration between the two parts given the amount of epoxy that's in that cocksucker :D

[oneglory]

i made a casting of my shaft using jbweld.

[Chad]

That's one way to keep her around :D

[MOOGEN]

i made a casting of my shaft using jbweld.

I hope you used lube... I mean release oil.

[MOOGEN]

im so jealous..i wish i was better at lighting equipment

Bro I thought you did one aswell? Post pics man!

[oneglory]

sorry for my shitty video..my cam isn't so good in the dark...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhB85YFSdXE

[ShadowEP3]

Bro I thought you did one aswell? Post pics man!

i did..but i think ill be embarrased by the quality of mine compared to all others :tehe:

i got my camera back today so shots will come tomorrow (i need to adjust the cutoff)..i also played around with some old HIDs i had from the original fog light kit and fitted em in there (just for the hell of it to see the outcome)..btw ill be shipping you something next week :mwink:

[Chad]

My pass side one has a flare I don't want it to have for some reason... I plan on investigating this soon

[MOOGEN]

i did..but i think ill be embarrased by the quality of mine compared to all others :tehe:

i got my camera back today so shots will come tomorrow (i need to adjust the cutoff)..i also played around with some old HIDs i had from the original fog light kit and fitted em in there (just for the hell of it to see the outcome)..btw ill be shipping you something next week :mwink:

Looking forward to it.... Wonder what it is?

[MOOGEN]

My pass side one has a flare I don't want it to have for some reason... I plan on investigating this soon

check the inside to see if the shield has come loose. If not then it may be the craftsmanship of your bulbs. Are they hid?

[MOOGEN]

sorry for my shitty video..my cam isn't so good in the dark...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhB85YFSdXE


Hey man they look great. They're pretty bright huh?

[oneglory]

for little halogens - yup.

[Chad]

check the inside to see if the shield has come loose.

Will do. I heard someone else bitching about this on the BMW forum. the beam is as flat as a board then there's an upward flare right at the right corner. Kinda like a headlamp would have.


If not then it may be the craftsmanship of your bulbs. Are they hid?

Not yet.

[ShadowEP3]

Will do. I heard someone else bitching about this on the BMW forum. the beam is as flat as a board then there's an upward flare right at the right corner. Kinda like a headlamp would have.

i have this problem as well..at first i thought it was just the bulb..my flares on the driver side

[MOOGEN]

flare is fixable with minor adjustments to the shield. Careful cause small changes can fawk up the light output.

[Chad]

Unfortunately.. i don't think mine are coming apart.... Like I say, it's almost intended looking considering where it flares.

[Chad]

i have this problem as well..at first i thought it was just the bulb..my flares on the driver side

flares up to the right? did you possibly switch sides and that was intended to be the right or was that one always labeled as left?

[ShadowEP3]

flares up to the right? did you possibly switch sides and that was intended to be the right or was that one always labeled as left?

my bad shoulda been more specific :tehe:
my left fog light flares up to the left

[MOOGEN]

They aren't side specific. They are built that way cause if you look at both of the sets that I did they flare a little on the edges. Their cutoff is supposed to be flat but the little shields leak light on the edges.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p114/xchang03/YellowFogs2.jpg

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p114/xchang03/3.jpg

[Chad]

Well, I'm also finding that some of the ebay ones may be different, not doubting you though. For example the cups that affix the lamps on the back of mione are plastic. In other tutorials I have seen they are metal. In the beemer forums I have found a trend of the plastic cupped ones having the flare complaint whereas the ones with the metal blub rear cup flat as a board.

I really just need to get in and check them out, been a hell week and I'm pretty much shot this weekend :(

[oneglory]

chad..you're going HID right?

you doing H3 or H3c?

[Chad]

chad..you're going HID right?

you doing H3 or H3c?

H3 first then if I dislike it H3C, H3C kits are outrageous so it's easier for me to do the cheap kit and if I don't like it buy H3C lamps.

I took a quick eyeball measurement last night and the arc capsule is close to that of the positioning of the filament int he H3 lamp... I'll get a more accurate measurement tonight... the only time I've been home lately is to sleep.

[oneglory]

i think i may go H3 too...the cost of the h3c is outragous! it'll be worth a little fabing/modding to get the h3 in there.

[Chad]

i think i may go H3 too...the cost of the h3c is outragous! it'll be worth a little fabing/modding to get the h3 in there.

are you using the ebay harness that blinks on lock/unlock?

[oneglory]

no, i'm on a custom harness that blinks on lock/unlock..only when the fog light button is on though.

[Chad]

Busted to shit ankle or not I'm digging into this flare issue this weekend girls. I'm starting to see the light (punn intended) when moogen said the shield is off, which could REALLY suck given that they probably are NOT coming apart :(

So it's microsurgery time :D Or bust out another 60 bucks for moar projectors. which IF I have to go that route I'll have another set of plastic housings in case someone fawks one up.

[MOOGEN]

Busted to shit ankle or not I'm digging into this flare issue this weekend girls. I'm starting to see the light (punn intended) when moogen said the shield is off, which could REALLY suck given that they probably are NOT coming apart :(

So it's microsurgery time :D Or bust out another 60 bucks for moar projectors. which IF I have to go that route I'll have another set of plastic housings in case someone fawks one up.

I've been down that route before and son your opening a nasty can of worms. Gl. Nonetheless!

[Chad]

I have the patience of Jude grasshpoppa.

[MOOGEN]

I have the patience of Jude grasshpoppa.

That's good for you cause if the hammer was near me when doing adj good bye little foggy.

[Chad]

That's good for you cause if the hammer was near me when doing adj good bye little foggy.

It's off the car and in my hand.. pray for it.

[Chad]

Yeah that was not fuken fun and the shield has to be moved for HID... PATIENTLY.



So I'm going HID tonight.

[oneglory]

chad,

have you seen these?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PROJECTOR-FOG-LIGHTS-MAZDA-3-5-6-MILLENIA-PROTEGE-B2000-/380226183957?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item58873f2315

[Chad]

those are cool and the right price. Have no idea how the hell I'd get them to work though.

[oneglory]

jbweld and duck tape. duh.

[Chad]

You left out bailing wire and a beer can.

[Chad]

jbweld and duck tape. duh.

I may have it figured out.. these ebay BMW projectors kinda suck. I got them right but it took a while and I got REALLY drunk doing it meaning that... It took a while.

I'm so old skool I was singing, "Upside down, baby you turn me, inside out......"

Because if you have ever worked with a projector you know what I'm saying.

Now I'm thinking ebay flanges with a good projector mounted to the hole the horn magically covers...... Nice bolt hole thee and a place to drill for an anchor tab.

Still cheap though.


Aiming will not be OEM :(

[MOOGEN]

I may have it figured out.. these ebay BMW projectors kinda suck. I got them right but it took a while and I got REALLY drunk doing it meaning that... It took a while.

I'm so old skool I was singing, "Upside down, baby you turn me, inside out......"

Because if you have ever worked with a projector you know what I'm saying.

Now I'm thinking ebay flanges with a good projector mounted to the hole the horn magically covers...... Nice bolt hole thee and a place to drill for an anchor tab.

Still cheap though.


Aiming will not be OEM :(

Hey grasshopper, I'm guessing you hammered it? lol Post pic of destruction pls!

[MOOGEN]

Oh... BTW in reference to the song... I know exactly how you feel haaha.

[skoo74]

just ordered some bmw fogs for the winter time driving.. it gets dark way too early and I'm blind..

anyone got a link to a nice inexpensive set of HIDs for them? Thanks.. I've found a few under $50 but no review = no buy..

[ShadowEP3]

DDM offers the apexcone kit for $46 shipped (at least that was the price when i ordered em a year ago :tehe:)
decent HIDs for the price

*edit:
$35 for slim kit + shipping

[skoo74]

thanks shadow.. i recall ordering a hid kit from them as well for my Honda Element.. the 55w kit works great...

did u get 55w or 35w for the fogs?




edit too lol: just read "Our 55w HID Kit is not recommended for smaller fog light housings because they tend to concentrate a large amount of heat in a small area. "

[ShadowEP3]

I got 35w but they weren't for my fogs :tehe:

I'm in for pix when you get em installed..my bulbs died out last week and I was wondering whether to go HID on the fogs

[skoo74]

I got 35w but they weren't for my fogs :tehe:

I'm in for pix when you get em installed..my bulbs died out last week and I was wondering whether to go HID on the fogs

fo sure. i'll post when done (might take me a few weeks to get to it though)...

that's a bummer.. go ddm.. they have lifetime warranty on thier kits.. or for however long the company is in business.. lol

[Chad]

I have the DDM's in mine no complaints. The 55W will run too hot fo-sho.

[skoo74]

I have the DDM's in mine no complaints. The 55W will run too hot fo-sho.

Nice.. yeah, i ended up getting the 35W kit...

where'd u mount the ballast? the DDM kit doesn't have a hole to mount the ballast on the car so i tucked it in the rebars and ziptied it.. lol.. heavy duty zip tie.. works ghetto wonders...

how'd u mount the HID bulbs on since the stock mounting bulb cover on the projector doesn't extend long enough to cover the HIDs? I had to put a hole (red section below) in the cover... so now the end of the HID sticks out... covered up the hole with blacktape... :mcry:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a99/jerryep3/Si/DSC_0626.jpg

anyways... here's the bad shots i just took... i didnt get the chance to adjust the beam alignment but oooweee... my concern was i wouldnt get it done by tonight... alignment is another day's project... HID fogs work 5x better than stocks...

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a99/jerryep3/Si/IMG_8425.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a99/jerryep3/Si/IMG_8429.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a99/jerryep3/Si/IMG_8433.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a99/jerryep3/Si/IMG_8438.jpg

As for the switch situation, I have the OEM fog switch so the fogs only turns on when the headlights are on... basically eliminating the on/off blinking HIDs issue... eventually, i'll work wiring the fogs so they're standalone but still debating if i'll ever use the fogs without the low beams... hmm......


btw, if u dont have a dremel and is not creative, dont even think about doing this mod... I had to West Coast Customs this thang... lol

[ShadowEP3]

definitely gonna get a set of HIDs for em
just gotta wait till im done Christmas shopping to get em..college tuition FTL

+1 on:
-ballast mounting?
-skoo's dremel comment

also would like to add its not for the impatient


off topic but:
i was thinking of making a rear fog light since i almost got rear ended a couple months ago on my way to school in dense fog..what size/volt wire should i go with?

[Chad]

Nice.. yeah, i ended up getting the 35W kit...

where'd u mount the ballast? the DDM kit doesn't have a hole to mount the ballast on the car so i tucked it in the rebars and ziptied it.. lol.. heavy duty zip tie.. works ghetto wonders...

how'd u mount the HID bulbs on since the stock mounting bulb cover on the projector doesn't extend long enough to cover the HIDs? I had to put a hole (red section below) in the cover... so now the end of the HID sticks out... covered up the hole with blacktape... :mcry:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a99/jerryep3/Si/DSC_0626.jpg



I also mounted the ballasts with zipties and adhesive. As for the lamps, I drilled out the rear housing, then modded the moisture boots to go inside and seal up.

The dremel is quite handy but the brunt of my cutting was done with a 3"cutoff wheel.

[skoo74]

u should shadow... the output is nice... too bad they dont make these things with HIDs already included.. i would have paid extra..

chad - looks like we used similar methods... good stuff..

[dble0]

old thread I know but would somebody be willing to make these for me?

[EUB44]

old thread I know but would somebody be willing to make these for me?

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[T_Virus]

Wow, this thread is still going...I miss these fog lights and I had a set retrofit from the Original thread starter. LoL...

[ShadowEP3]

made it through another crash? damn time flies


old thread I know but would somebody be willing to make these for me?

x2
doubt anyone would..its very tedious

i ended up ditching the e46 projectors and opted for Lexus ES300 projectors, a bit easier to work with; i only used em once--took the harness out to re-do and then ended up selling the EP
http://i.imgur.com/XVDPiyv.jpg

[u1sansei]

Anyone have this on their JDM bumper? I'm planning to do this retrofit.