numbers on na a3

[pjnoto]

whats the best numbers somebodys gotten on a nat aspirated a3 engine. What kind of work did you do? Because i was considering maybe doing camwork. I know everyones gonna say to swap but i dont have that kind of cash. :mfrown:. so if somebody could pick up my spirit and tell me it was possible to get 165ish to the wheels i would be stoked.

[clutch797]

No. It's going to cost more then a swap to get some high whp from the a3. If your are looking for that kind of power then it would be cheaper to swap in a k24 then it would be to have cams installed and tuned.

[civicswapper]

No. It's going to cost more then a swap to get some high whp from the a3. If your are looking for that kind of power then it would be cheaper to swap in a k24 then it would be to have cams installed and tuned.

i agree. but if you only want about 170 to the wheels just put some bolt ons and k-pro.

[Akeeg4]

you could make 165ish with i/e/rh/kpro

[Mini-Odyssey05]

i agree. but if you only want about 170 to the wheels just put some bolt ons and k-pro.

yea... on average i/rh/e will put you around 165whp

i dyno'd 170whp with CAI, DCRH, and HKS cat-back, no k pro

[Kodeen]

Jaeguyoon (or some similar spelling) got 190 whp with a k24a1 head and cams. That's the highest NA a3 I've seen.

[clutch797]

you could make 165ish with i/e/rh/kpro

At that point your well over what a swap would cost.

[JuicyJoint316]

Jaeguyoon (or some similar spelling) got 190 whp with a k24a1 head and cams. That's the highest NA a3 I've seen.

carbonfiberdesire and mystery had the highest n/a a3...too bad site lost their threads...

[ivtec_do_u]

carbonfiberdesire and mystery had the highest n/a a3...too bad site lost their threads...


Weren't theirs true a3's as well, not the a3/a1 mini frank?

[pjnoto]

thanks alot guys!

[kprocivic]

At that point your well over what a swap would cost.

nah about 2k swap is more than that.

[heyvortek]

n/a a3 suks...wont get much..get sum cheap boltons and your good for a while...beat sum ricers...im beatin gsrs wid jus cai,header and test pipe...157hp..getting ready for my bc cams stg3 soon

[T_Virus]

n/a a3 suks...wont get much..get sum cheap boltons and your good for a while...beat sum ricers...im beatin gsrs wid jus cai,header and test pipe...157hp..getting ready for my bc cams stg3 soon

maybe your beating the newbie stock gsr drivers...:drum:

[heyvortek]

he said he jus had a intake....had a big ol spoiler n altezza on it...n a body kit..so iunno...u can beat up on ls....it always makes me feel better :mbiggrin:

[T_Virus]

It is possible, maybe barely...but it's kind of hard seeing a EP with basic bolt ons without Hondata beating a GSR with an intake...Beating LS for sure but GSR's? Not to dawg you or anything but I'm a former GSR owner myself, so that is why I question...

[kprocivic]

It is possible, maybe barely...but it's kind of hard seeing a EP with basic bolt ons without Hondata beating a GSR with an intake...Beating LS for sure but GSR's? Not to dawg you or anything but I'm a former GSR owner myself, so that is why I question...

gsr's arnt that fast, especially with just intake.

[NrGiNnY14]

alot of numbers are different due to the fact that dynos read differently. alot read higher then they really are. this dyno sheet is on a dyno-dynamics dyno which apparently reads very accurate.

my mods at the time of the dyno:
AEM CAI
DC Shorty
Megan TP
Buddy Club ProSpec

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h168/nrginny14/Untitled-1.jpg

[NrGiNnY14]

gsr's arnt that fast, especially with just intake.

agreed from my experience, a bolt-on ep3 is about the same as a bolt-on gsr. now i eat them up with my jrsc :mbiggrin:

[pjnoto]

what kind of a difference do the bc cams make?

[v1c10us]

gsr's arnt that fast, especially with just intake.

ep3's arent that fast, even with everything

and about your other post, I don't know what a1 swap is running you 2k but you're getting ripped the fuck off.
You can get a very nice condition a1 from dave for 1250 or you can go to a junkyard and get one that might have problems for 600-900
you can swap it yourself for the cost of a cherry picker if you dont have one.
Or you can have someone put it in for 300-500 bucks, or if you have friends they could help you do it for a case of beer.

[pjnoto]

ive seen post of people puttin out 180+ with bc cams valvetrain and bolt ons. is this true of the a3?

[k20z1]

this maysound stupid, but i rather have a a2 or z1 in my car than 180 hp a3..
i was planning to do, cams and bolt on.. but at the end i put a z1 in my car...
i'm loving it every moment of it...its better out of the box period...
i'm running roughly 200-210 to the wheel. with just bolt on..
i'm sure i'll put out more with buddy RH, RBC intake + CAI( just a3 short ram)

[kprocivic]

ep3's arent that fast, even with everything

and about your other post, I don't know what a1 swap is running you 2k but you're getting ripped the fuck off.
You can get a very nice condition a1 from dave for 1250 or you can go to a junkyard and get one that might have problems for 600-900
you can swap it yourself for the cost of a cherry picker if you dont have one.
Or you can have someone put it in for 300-500 bucks, or if you have friends they could help you do it for a case of beer.

okay agreed gsr's and ep's arnt fast. most encounters with my ep vs gsr's i came out on top , maybe driver error or there cars having in some cases a decade of miles more than us. i use to feel about integras how i feel about tc's or em1's.

and yes 2k for the swap assuming he wasnt doing the swap himself. and dont forget that tranny pass mount.

[pjnoto]

my issue is that this car is my dd so i dont to deal with finding a solid motor. finding a way to transport it. Then the headaches of swapping it. It might be doable in a weekend but i swapped my supra and i know that theres always somethin to slow the process and i need to get to work! lol. so id be plenty happy with 25 less horsepower and a cammed a3. But i could change my mind. I gotta sleep on it some more

[Kodeen]

I've always planned that if I was going to do a swap (and that's not really on the table), I would buy a junker for like a $1,000 and use it as a DD while I took my time with the swap. Afterwords, I doubt the value of the junker will have moved much, turn right back around and sell it again.

[pjnoto]

thats a good idea. wish i had an extra grand :mcry:

[sleepyEP3]

fuck spending 2 grand on dumb shit and getting 30 horsepower to the wheels. Just save an extra $1000 up and go turbo. Most drag races are won with torque not "oh ive got 157 hp at the wheels and 120 LB ft and I can beat my moms minivan on the corners. Unless you've got the K20z3 why even waste the money?

[sleepyEP3]

....Or buy a cheap ass k20a3 for like 600-800 bucks on ebay and buy a EG hatch put both together and woop ass. Light weight cars rule

[RTE117]

gsr's arnt that fast, especially with just intake.

Yeah, but they aren't land whales like EP3's. I've seen bolt-on GSR's trap 97-101 personally.

[kprocivic]

Yeah, but they aren't land whales like EP3's. I've seen bolt-on GSR's trap 97-101 personally.

i like dc2's i just dont find them to be to special anymore. and 100lb difference i guess is a whole lot.

[pjnoto]

fuck spending 2 grand on dumb shit and getting 30 horsepower to the wheels. Just save an extra $1000 up and go turbo. Most drag races are won with torque not "oh ive got 157 hp at the wheels and 120 LB ft and I can beat my moms minivan on the corners. Unless you've got the K20z3 why even waste the money?

because i want my car too be reliable and its my dd so i want it to be just a little quick if i want a finicky turbo monster i have a built 88 supra sittin in the garage.oh and for the record its not exactly two grand to make 157bhp.Its probably around 5-800 if you no where to spend the cash.
since when is the K20z3 the only worthy k motor and since when are drag races won with torque?

[NrGiNnY14]

if you don't want to spend a lot of money and get decent hp, i would suggest going my route. i have i/h/tp/e and jrsc. i bought the jrsc used for a little over a grand and i'm now at max torque at 3,000rpm :mbiggrin:

trust me, if you want reliability and decent hp gains, go jrsc.

when i went from full bolt-ons to adding the jrsc-s (5psi) i went from 155whp to 182whp, and 133ft-lbs to 165ft-lbs

[pjnoto]

if you don't want to spend a lot of money and get decent hp, i would suggest going my route. i have i/h/tp/e and jrsc. i bought the jrsc used for a little over a grand and i'm now at max torque at 3,000rpm :mbiggrin:

trust me, if you want reliability and decent hp gains, go jrsc.

when i went from full bolt-ons to adding the jrsc-s (5psi) i went from 155whp to 182whp, and 133ft-lbs to 165ft-lbs

would you say your rig is reliable enough to drive back and forth to nc from ny on a regular basis? if so im savin up!

[NrGiNnY14]

would you say your rig is reliable enough to drive back and forth to nc from ny on a regular basis? if so im savin up!

well right now i'm running a ghetto kit, which i would assume is still reliable since i haven't had any problems, but the engine management is horrible which is causing me to get bad mpg. i say if you get the street kit with the JR card or the race kit with k-pro you should be fine. when you are running the street kit (5psi), there is only a card that when you boost, it adds more fuel, so in essence out of boost it's just as if you are stock when it comes to reliability and mpg

the only problems i heard with a jrsc reliability wise, is that sometimes belts break or the tensioner pulley starts making noise after 20,000-30,000 miles of use. i haven't broken a belt yet. i did have to change the tensioner pulley but thats because i bought the kit used and it had 38,000 miles plus on it.

i would suggest it over turbo any day when it comes to reliability, maintenance, and price. its 100,000 mile service free, so i hear. there is virtually no maintenance to the supercharger besides checking the belt and tension every so often which takes about 1 minute to do. and you can get the street kit new for $2,400 or get 1 used for around $1,000-$1,500

[JuicyJoint316]

n/a a3 suks...wont get much..get sum cheap boltons and your good for a while...beat sum ricers...im beatin gsrs wid jus cai,header and test pipe...157hp..getting ready for my bc cams stg3 soon

get a 6sdp u wont regret it. theres a base rsx on crsx with i/rh/e/kpro tuned/rbc/a2 tb running 14.4@99mph with his 6spd. S territory there:mwink:

[pjnoto]

sounds sick. i need to do other stuff first though. my car is still at stock ride height!!!

[dink32788]

get a 6sdp u wont regret it. theres a base rsx on crsx with i/rh/e/kpro tuned/rbc/a2 tb running 14.4@99mph with his 6spd. S territory there:mwink:

ill vouche on the 6 speed... i have i/h/e, 04 type s 6 speed tranny, stage 2 clutch, OEM type s flywheel, BCSS, (and retardly dumped) and that tranny and lighter flywheel makes a worldddddd of difference.... not to mention the 39 mpg highway i got driving from my new location near va beach to where my family lives to pittsburgh... 6 speed for NA is where its at!

[Mighty_Mouse_Ep]

165hp 132tq n/a a3 with comptech icebox, dcrh, t1r mid, and hondata reflash

[T_Virus]

165hp 132tq n/a a3 with comptech icebox, dcrh, t1r mid, and hondata reflash

Dang Omar, you got a healthy motor. Forsure with KPro, you'll break 170

[Mighty_Mouse_Ep]

Dang Omar, you got a healthy motor. Forsure with KPro, you'll break 170

Yeah the guy said if i put on a CAI and maybe an axle back i could get 170hp i am pretty happy with my car right now but i kinda wanna get a CAI now that i have a raceheader and reflash

[xep3tuner]

i/h/e reflash stage 2 cams 70mm tb = 192whp + rbc + kpro would make around 200

[AUTiger]

what? stage 2 cams with a reflash, that doesn't sound safe nor correct.

I have stage II cams and k-pro and am sitting at 180hp and 140tq. I am going to change out my raceheader for a kiddracing header and switch my megan midpipe for the very slightly smaller 05-06 type-s midpipe until I can get a custom 2.5in exhaust put together. If I am lucky and get rid of my stock axelback I might break 190. Then I have to decide if I want to go k24 or not because I want to supercharge and if I need to swap clutch and flywheel I might as well pick up a cheap a4 and swap over my cams.

[RHCP0801]

i/rh/cai with velocity stack on the end
skunk 2 stage 3 cams
supertech springs and retainers
kpro and skunk2 catback

197hp 140 tq

[1GR8EP3]

i/rh/cai with velocity stack on the end
skunk 2 stage 3 cams
supertech springs and retainers
kpro and skunk2 catback

197hp 140 tq
You always run the velocity stack???

There are so many different setups out there.... since you use it to commute I would suggest boltons and the 03-04 six speed swap. I think that will keep you happy for a while. And when you go to that six speed you will definately see you mpgs jump up on the highway. I plan on doing this to my ladies ep3, 400 to a tank here I come hahaha

[superchargedk20]

At that point your well over what a swap would cost.
Only if ur doing the swap urself

[RHCP0801]

You always run the velocity stack???

yea i always run it, daily driver

[1GR8EP3]

that is nuts bro... I would be to afraid of sucking something into the engine, let alone how all the dirt particles that put wear into the engine. I had a buddy that did it for a month and when we removed his intake manifold to put a IMG it was freaking dirty like crazy. More power to you because your making good numbers out of that a3

[Onasty]

yea i always run it, daily driver

i was thinkin bout doing that but i decided wasnt worth it

[SandBagger]

what? stage 2 cams with a reflash, that doesn't sound safe nor correct.

I have stage II cams and k-pro and am sitting at 180hp and 140tq. I am going to change out my raceheader for a kiddracing header and switch my megan midpipe for the very slightly smaller 05-06 type-s midpipe until I can get a custom 2.5in exhaust put together. If I am lucky and get rid of my stock axelback I might break 190. Then I have to decide if I want to go k24 or not because I want to supercharge and if I need to swap clutch and flywheel I might as well pick up a cheap a4 and swap over my cams.

If you go SC K24 go with a stage 2 or better clutch, LSD, and a Type S flywheel. I had an excedy stg1 clutch...didn't last. Stage2 Excedy worked good/ SCK24