200 + WHP club! N/A only!

[showoff3civic]

i know there are a couple of us on here so i thought dyno sheets would be cool :mbiggrin:

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a7/showoff3civic/dyno.jpg

I go back monday to get it finished it was running super lean in the higher rpms so i had to get 440cc injectors. It should be around the 230-235 whp range after the bigger injectors

200 + NA WHP
1) showoff3civic
2) Mickey
3) shawdowmd
4) chunky
5) sleepy_ep
6)G..
7)Clizoman

[1GR8EP3]

nice!!! mod list???

[clujalolo]

looks like an k20a2, thats what the dyno sheet says,

[showoff3civic]

k20a2
6 speed
injen SRI
DCRH
Mugen twinloop Exhaust
Kpro
Blueprint stage2
Blueprint valve springs
Blueprint retainers
Toda Timing chain tensioner
RBC Intake manifold
Hondata IMG
Karcepts adaptor plate
Throttlebody, adaptor plate, and intake manifold all maxbored out to 65mm.

soon will be
pwjdm plug and play injector clips
440cc injectors
aem fuel rail

[Chazwick05]

josh, i wouldn't go with the AEM fuel rail, as i remember doug saying something to the effect that the aem doesn't flow as well as the stock rail, and is more of a bling only item.

i would opt for a BDL or golden eagle (i think it's golden eagle) rail instead

[PAPITUYO326]

I would skip the Injector, fuel rail, and clip upgrade as well. You can modify your 270cc injectors to flow 490cc by simply cutting the screen off. Flow patterns from these modified injectors have been tested and have shown up as "excellent" according. That is a rating straight from RC themselves. If you are using 310cc injectors, then cutting the screen will net max flow of 520cc and a "good" flow pattern.

With the money you save (from injectors, clips, and fuel rail), I would upgrade the header. A BCRH would be a nice upgrade, but I recommend an SSR piece.

Im def over 200 whp, but I haven't dynoed the car in a few years. Mostly just street tune until I feel satisfied. I'll post up some numbers if I ever take it to the rollers.

[1GR8EP3]

k20a2
6 speed
injen SRI
DCRH
Mugen twinloop Exhaust
Kpro
Blueprint stage2
Blueprint valve springs
Blueprint retainers
Toda Timing chain tensioner
RBC Intake manifold
Hondata IMG
Karcepts adaptor plate
Throttlebody, adaptor plate, and intake manifold all maxbored out to 65mm.

soon will be
pwjdm plug and play injector clips
440cc injectors
aem fuel rail

wow, now thats a list hahaha... have to convince you to go k24 one day :mwink:

[showoff3civic]

josh, i wouldn't go with the AEM fuel rail, as i remember doug saying something to the effect that the aem doesn't flow as well as the stock rail, and is more of a bling only item.

i would opt for a BDL or golden eagle (i think it's golden eagle) rail instead

aem is about the same as stock, im sure stock would hold the hp that im going to put to it but i want some prettyness in the engine bay! :rapture: i was going to go with BDL but there manufacturing is having a problem and peoples injectors are not seating correctly and its spilling gas everywhere or so says pwjdm


I would skip the Injector, fuel rail, and clip upgrade as well. You can modify your 270cc injectors to flow 490cc by simply cutting the screen off. Flow patterns from these modified injectors have been tested and have shown up as "excellent" according. That is a rating straight from RC themselves. If you are using 310cc injectors, then cutting the screen will net max flow of 520cc and a "good" flow pattern.

With the money you save (from injectors, clips, and fuel rail), I would upgrade the header. A BCRH would be a nice upgrade, but I recommend an SSR piece.

Im def over 200 whp, but I haven't dynoed the car in a few years. Mostly just street tune until I feel satisfied. I'll post up some numbers if I ever take it to the rollers.

to late everything is ordered, but i plan on getting a hytech header after a while

[Chazwick05]

aem is about the same as stock, im sure stock would hold the hp that im going to put to it but i want some prettyness in the engine bay! :rapture: i was going to go with BDL but there manufacturing is having a problem and peoples injectors are not seating correctly and its spilling gas everywhere or so says pwjdm


ah, well it looks like you're on top of your game then :mbiggrin: i can't wait to see all the goodies installed.

[showoff3civic]

I bought the fuel rail from doug actually lol

[Mickey]

Barely 200+ whp.
Mods: Stock K20A (dc5-r) motor
AEM V2
K-Pro
ITR Heaser/downpipe and cat/Midpipe and EP3 muffler
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/Msarenas/michael-sarenas.jpg

Here is the most current one:
Same mods except for Intake (AEM/SRI) AND bdl Fuel Rail
Less WHP and more Torque
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/Msarenas/Picture887.jpg

[shadowmd]

here is my old dyno....before bcrh, buddy club pro-spec and injen MR cai....


http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c353/shadowep3/1866_000-2.jpg

and for some reason the tq. doesnt show up but it was 158wtq.

My CURRENT engine mods: (again the bcrh, bc exhaust and injen MR cai were not on the car upon dyno tuning)

K20a2
6spd
BCRH
BC pro-spec
Injen MR cai
RBC
Hondata IMG
RC 440cc injectors
K20z3 cams
Skunk2 pro-series dual valve springs
Skunk2 Titanium retainers
Kpro (street tuned)

[v1c10us]

here is my old dyno....before bcrh, buddy club pro-spec and injen MR cai....


http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c353/shadowep3/1866_000-2.jpg

and for some reason the tq. doesnt show up but it was 158wtq.

My CURRENT engine mods: (again the bcrh, bc exhaust and injen MR cai were not on the car upon dyno tuning)

K20a2
6spd
BCRH
BC pro-spec
Injen MR cai
RBC
Hondata IMG
RC 440cc injectors
K20z3 cams
Skunk2 pro-series dual valve springs
Skunk2 Titanium retainers
Kpro (street tuned)

nice to see an N/A powerband that doesnt look like the himalayas.
The other 2 drop off like a billion horsepower at 4k

[K20A EP3]

Im over 200whp but i lost my dyno sheet:mfrown: Had 201whp and 140wtq with stock exhaust and without RBC IM. Should have new numbers soon

K20A Type R motor & tranny
Enjo mounts
Hondata Kpro
Hondata IMG
Honda RBC IM
Karcepts Adaptor
RSX S DC Race Header
RSX S Fujitia CAI
Skunk2 70mm
Fidanza flywheel
Exedy Stage 2 3puk

[shadowmd]

:mcool:

[cow]

Can I play?

[chunky]

i know there are a couple of us on here so i thought dyno sheets would be cool :mbiggrin:

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a7/showoff3civic/dyno.jpg

I go back monday to get it finished it was running super lean in the higher rpms so i had to get 440cc injectors. It should be around the 230-235 whp range after the bigger injectors

200 + NA WHP
1) showoff3civic
2) Mickey
3) shawdowmd

what's the difference between the two lines? If the dotted line is your new dyno, it doesn't look like you're gonna be 10whp over whatever the setup used to get the solid line was. The solid line has a reasonable a/f ratio. If anything, would probably make more power slightly leaner. Your dyno is pretty odd looking. Torque curve is not very linear at all, which is not something I'm used to seeing on K-series cars. Who is your tuner?

I'm at 227/159 according to this sheet (which is untuned). The red plot is after hand porting the head and degreeing the exhaust cam. The blue line is with the exhaust cam at zero advance/retard with no head porting.

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/7644/currentportedom2.jpg

mod list is here, doesn't include the latest purchases. Neither does the dyno for that matter. :mwink:

http://www.razid.com/car.html

[Hondatuner87]

Only if i got my car tuned professionally and had dyno sheets :(

[showoff3civic]

what's the difference between the two lines? If the dotted line is your new dyno, it doesn't look like you're gonna be 10whp over whatever the setup used to get the solid line was. The solid line has a reasonable a/f ratio. If anything, would probably make more power slightly leaner. Your dyno is pretty odd looking. Torque curve is not very linear at all, which is not something I'm used to seeing on K-series cars. Who is your tuner?

I'm at 227/159 according to this sheet (which is untuned). The red plot is after hand porting the head and degreeing the exhaust cam. The blue line is with the exhaust cam at zero advance/retard with no head porting.

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/7644/currentportedom2.jpg

mod list is here, doesn't include the latest purchases. Neither does the dyno for that matter. :mwink:

http://www.razid.com/car.html

trick engineering is my tuner,

with the motor leaning out as bad as it was he only tuned for 0 degrees of timing he did not get the full 50 degrees in. I am sure once i get the larger injectors that it will be much better. We will see monday

[chunky]

trick engineering is my tuner,

with the motor leaning out as bad as it was he only tuned for 0 degrees of timing he did not get the full 50 degrees in. I am sure once i get the larger injectors that it will be much better. We will see monday

Well, I guess you'll have to wait and see how things will look after the re-tune. For what it's worth, the stock k20a2 injectors should have been able to supply adequate fuel up to about 8000rpm. No reason why it should have been going lean before then. Also, peak power usually happens around 30-20deg VTC. Usually not a huge increase in power over 0deg VTC at high rpm. Keep us posted on how things turn out!

[Ba82Ep3]

Dunno if im over 200whp or not. I should be fairly close at least. Chris and i both need to get dynoed and post up the results...

[showoff3civic]

Well, I guess you'll have to wait and see how things will look after the re-tune. For what it's worth, the stock k20a2 injectors should have been able to supply adequate fuel up to about 8000rpm. No reason why it should have been going lean before then. Also, peak power usually happens around 30-20deg VTC. Usually not a huge increase in power over 0deg VTC at high rpm. Keep us posted on how things turn out!

I will keep you posted.

[AliG-EP3]

Wow, I never knew about the AEM fuel rail issue, and my buddy will be excited to know that you can up the stock injector flow fairly easily

[chunky]

Wow, I never knew about the AEM fuel rail issue, and my buddy will be excited to know that you can up the stock injector flow fairly easily

Oh, regarding that, all aftermarket rails that i've seen have less volume than the stock rail. The stock rail also has a fuel pulse dampener, which is quite an important thing to have.

[showoff3civic]

Oh, regarding that, all aftermarket rails that i've seen have less volume than the stock rail. The stock rail also has a fuel pulse dampener, which is quite an important thing to have.

i have a fpd on the aem one, also i forgot to mention that i am also changing the fuel pump and filter thinking that, that maybe and issue i run my car low on gas alot and i know that has an effect on the fuel pumps.

[FoReVaPmP]

Oh, regarding that, all aftermarket rails that i've seen have less volume than the stock rail. The stock rail also has a fuel pulse dampener, which is quite an important thing to have.

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr............. Raz, TUNE MY CAR DAMNIT!!!!....:mangel:


that tis allz!!!:msmooch:

[K20A EP3]

Dunno if im over 200whp or not. I should be fairly close at least. Chris and i both need to get dynoed and post up the results...

^^^ yea that^^^ Dave hit me up when you wanna try my intake!

[Ba82Ep3]

^^^ yea that^^^ Dave hit me up when you wanna try my intake!

PM y0!

[itchy5]

Only if i got my car tuned professionally and had dyno sheets :(

what are you running in there? k20a2? :hungry:

[sleepy_ep]

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk225/sleepy_ep/dyno1.jpg

We hit 220 whp and 160 tq, but we tuned it down to 212 hp/154tq to be extra safe

K20a2
Type R pistons
Kpro
Toda exhaust
Comptech Shorty
440 RC injectors
Hondata IMG
AEM Short Ram

[Deadphishy]

I would skip the Injector, fuel rail, and clip upgrade as well. You can modify your 270cc injectors to flow 490cc by simply cutting the screen off. Flow patterns from these modified injectors have been tested and have shown up as "excellent" according. That is a rating straight from RC themselves. If you are using 310cc injectors, then cutting the screen will net max flow of 520cc and a "good" flow pattern.

.

like this :mbiggrin:

http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/620/injectorxe2.th.jpg (http://img74.imageshack.us/my.php?image=injectorxe2.jpg)

did mine today

[milob86]

to build an engine, would it be wise to use high injectors? such as 600+?

[showoff3civic]

to build an engine, would it be wise to use high injectors? such as 600+?

wth are you building?

[shadowmd]

wth are you building?

"yeahthat" lol

[sleepy_ep]

thanks for putting me on the 200+ list :mcry:

[b.r.i.a.n.]

i know i'm over 200 whp naturally aspirated but i don't know exactly how much i'm making. here are my mods:

-K20A2 complete swap
-Skunk2 Stage 2 Camshafts (Version 3)
-Supertech Dual Valve Springs (92 psi)
-Supertech Titanium Retainers
-AEM cold air intake
-DC race header
-Spoon midpipe
-Spoon axle back w/ silencer

*tuned with hondata k-pro*


i have a prc intake manifold sitting in my room. i'm just waiting for a hondata intake manifold gasket. i was going to go with the rbc but i ran out of cash and i picked up the prc intake mani for cheap on clubrsx. i'm going to install that and get the car re-tuned.

[showoff3civic]

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk225/sleepy_ep/dyno1.jpg

We hit 220 whp and 160 tq, but we tuned it down to 212 hp/154tq to be extra safe

K20a2
Type R pistons
Kpro
Toda exhaust
Comptech Shorty
440 RC injectors
Hondata IMG
AEM Short Ram

taken car of..

chunky you were right it only had about 3 more horse power out of it but the tq curve looks very similar to the one you have posted

[sleepy_ep]

thank you sir

[chunky]

taken car of..

chunky you were right it only had about 3 more horse power out of it but the tq curve looks very similar to the one you have posted

Cool cool. throw up the sheet when you get a chance. There's not a whole lot of data out there on the blueprint stage II cams.

Fully tuning the midrange and taking out all the torque dips really makes the car feel nice when you punch it. :mbiggrin:

[j0000stin]

dang anyone hit 200 wheel with the a3 without being f/i haha

[shadowmd]

i doubt it :mangel:

my new setup (the one im building) should be around 240whp.....maybe a lil more depending on what cams i go with :mangel:

[talonXracer]

I was well over 240whp, but we detuned it so that it had some lifespan. Stock bottom end A2 with a Z3 head and a set of K2's

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g96/talonxracer/retunedynograph.jpg

[kwiksi]

Well no dyno sheet but I'm there.:msmile: Mods in my sig.

[az-epdrvr]

-K24a2 swapped from TSX (32k miles on motor) -6 speed RSX tranny -CTR LSD -CTR final drive gear -Hondata KPRO ECU -50 degree VTC gear -Toda flywheel -Exedy stage 1 street clutch -DC race header -HKS 2.5" full exhaust -06 SI intake manifold -Hondata intake manifold gasket -Injen MR short ram intake -Enjo motor mounts -CTR red valve cover -Sun Automobile voltage stabalizer. I know i make at least 200 or more . I have planned to install fuel rail , bigger injectors and fuel pump soon then i have to retune

[K20A EP3]

Man i wish i wouldn't have lost my dyno sheet. Tomorrow im gonna go on a hunt for it, i know its around here somewhere. If i cant find it im gonna get to the dyno asap since i got my RBC and 70mm exhaust now and dave did a nice little street tune. Feels much better than before

[saintluk2]

i apologize in advance if this is a stupid question: is it possible to have a 180+hp n/a setup that retains the stock noise level (possibly just a bit louder) ?

[shadowmd]

yea just run a stock exhaust lol......the stock 02-04 rsx-s puts down around 170whp.....add a cold air intake and kpro and u would be there.

but just outa curiousity, whats so special about 180whp?

[talonXracer]

The stock axle back is ok to just around the 200 mark.

[jyoo]

im jealous

[ep3moschini]

I made 201 in a D-series dose that count? :mangel:

[G..]

Well I have 240.5 fly horsepower, so with transmission losses should still be a tad over 200 at the fly :D.

Though of course I have a UK CTR. Mods are:

K-Pro
Jackson Header (gonna swap this for Toda or Feels)
ARC airbox
Skunk2 70mm

http://images.fotopic.net/yu1uzu.jpg

Quite happy with the power curve.

[Guardian]

i wonder if i could hit 200 with a dyno tune... on the right dyno

[dobbs02si]

I made 201 in a D-series dose that count? :mangel:

An n/a d?? Geeez..I need specs please lol.

[kon]

i wonder if i could hit 200 with a dyno tune... on the right dyno

maybe with some magical tuning and race headers LOL

[magmagik 1]

Hope to be there with my setup, time to hit the dyno.:msmile:

[shadowmd]

Hope to be there with my setup, time to hit the dyno.:msmile:

what's ur setup?

[Guardian]

maybe with some magical tuning and race headers LOLlol for real, K24/20 ghetto sri stock exhaust k-pro. Maybe i should get a tornado

[2004ep3hatch]

well i will see next weekend if i can post in this thread :mwink:

[magmagik 1]

k24/k20 tsx bottom and a2 head with ITR cams, basic boltons +kpoo, but still on 5speed. 6 speed swap coming at the end of this month I hope.

[clizoman]

add me to it..ill post dyno and specs when i get home

[clizoman]

EP3
V2 short ram
RBC intake (it wont breathe)
DCRH
JP midpipe
Stock muffler
K24a1 CRV block + K20a2 head STOCK INTERNALS & HEAD COMPONENTS! OEM RELIABILITY!
180.8wtq, 218.8whp, on dynapack @ Bisimoto
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v650/wiseintegra/civic%20Si/AaronEP.jpg

[wishbear]

woot woot ill be joining the 200whp+ soon

[showoff3civic]

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a7/showoff3civic/P8146177.jpg

my dyno chart

[sLiCk]

EP3
V2 short ram
RBC intake (it wont breathe)
DCRH
JP midpipe
Stock muffler
K24a1 CRV block + K20a2 head STOCK INTERNALS & HEAD COMPONENTS! OEM RELIABILITY!
180.8wtq, 218.8whp, on dynapack @ Bisimoto
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v650/wiseintegra/civic%20Si/AaronEP.jpg

wow those are incredible numbers for the simple setup you are running.