hid suggestions

[ep3drc]

im thinkin bout getting some blue 8000k xenon hid which is a good blend of color and light

[02_epdriver]

6000 to 12000k I think have all the shades of blue in the light. What are you exactly looking for? Color, brightness, lengh the light travels?

[thisisagame24]

i think 6k will give you a great blend of blueis color and useable light. going higher than that and you will start to lose light that is put on the road

[liquid cooled]

6000k is where its at, im running those and its white with a hint of blue, i wouldnt run HID's in the 02-03 headlights though too much glare.

[yugisama]

depend on brand, but most 6000K is pure white and 8000k starting to have some blue in it. 10000k is blue. I am using Klight 6000k pure white since I don't want cops to pull me over for having blue headlight.

[civiCholo]

go with NOTHING more than 6000K... anything after that will give you less "visible" light... in other words... the higher "K" you go, the less output there is... kinda like using a black light for headlights...

[v1c10us]

yah thats a good blend of color and nothing.

[chuck83]

4300k ftw son

[02_epdriver]

4300k ftw son


Thats what I got. White with a hint of purple. Brightest and shoots the farthest.

[PaTTi2103a]

get some projectors if your gonna get hids so you dont have any glare issues.

[ep3drc]

im lookin for a good blue hid idk y this shit is so complicated i see ppl with blue ass lights on da highway and they light up the whole road thats wat im lookin for , i heard 8000k where the way to go i dont really kno the difference between em so i cant make a choice myself , i want great visibility and still blue it dosent have to be a dark ass blue but i do want for ppl to be able to tell that they are blue

[LAvtec818]

6000k from ebay is the way to go, $80 shipped to your door. Been using em for 2 years with no problems.

[v1c10us]

8000k will be blue but dim as fuck
you cant have super blue and great visibility unless you've got projector headlights
go with 6k if you want blue
i'm ordering a 4300k kit which will look like is300 headlights, blue but bright.

[liquid cooled]

im lookin for a good blue hid idk y this shit is so complicated i see ppl with blue ass lights on da highway and they light up the whole road thats wat im lookin for , i heard 8000k where the way to go i dont really kno the difference between em so i cant make a choice myself , i want great visibility and still blue it dosent have to be a dark ass blue but i do want for ppl to be able to tell that they are blue


1. """edited for content"""
2. Blue is ricey, go with 6000k or lower (my 6k has a slight blue tint but is white for the most part).
3. Your going to get really really bad glare with the 02-03 headlamps. I dont have a problem with my 04-05, but they are a completely seperate high and low beam.

[talonXracer]

4300 is the one and only temp IMHO !!!

[cg78]

I have 7000k and love them. It is a super white with a slight hue of blue. I have sat side by side with a friends mercedes with a 4500k, both of us are on factory reflective housings, and mine is brighter.

[civictype_r04]

I have 6,000 K and the color is a little blue and I like the light output.

[nizmoluvep3]

I'm running 8k in my 02-03 and a lot of opposing traffic think i'm high beaming but maybe its just the glare either way there is a huge difference to stock or piaa bulbs

[civictype_r04]

I get that a lot to people on the opposing side are always high beaming me.:tehehyper:

[Si Death]

4300k with a color mod on the projectors will give you white and blue light:mcool:

[ep3drc]

i heard 8000k was less color more light some of you say different they r xenon hid's

[Tnhatch03]

Moved.

[Karma]

im lookin for a good blue hid idk y this shit is so complicated i see ppl with blue ass lights on da highway and they light up the whole road thats wat im lookin for , i heard 8000k where the way to go i dont really kno the difference between em so i cant make a choice myself , i want great visibility and still blue it dosent have to be a dark ass blue but i do want for ppl to be able to tell that they are blue


i heard 8000k was less color more light some of you say different they r xenon hid's

you sound like you're are set on 8000k but are still unsure about the whole thing.

k=kelvin (temperature). the higher the temp, the more color you will have, BUT light output is less. also look at the lumens, which is a measurement of light output.

people will notice color difference between low temp HIDs and halogens.
most premium cars (mb, bmw, lexus, etc.) use around 4500k, and they're already noticeable.

almost everyone who has posted has recommended 6000k or less.

[ep3drc]

thanks

[ep3drc]

either way the 8k will give me much better lighting the the stock bulbs right atleast twice as more?

[cg78]

either way the 8k will give me much better lighting the the stock bulbs right atleast twice as more?

Dude hid's in general are so much better than the stock bulbs you wont be dissatisfied. I have not been flashed by oncoming traffic yet and I have had my hid's for over 2 months. I work at night, so most of my driving is in the dark. Hands down it is so much better than oem bulbs I am thinking of putting them in my datsun.

[na14yu]

I echo what the guys here have said about 6000k. They seem to be perfect in terms of light quality and not blinding other drivers.

[Rayme]

The more blue the more glaring, it's just the way our eyes are, so basicly 4300K and under is the more "incoming traffic friendly", however, slamming some plug and play HID in stock reflectors housing, specially H4 is just plain stupid and total lack of respect for fellow drivers.

Ricers :tehehyper:

[ep3drc]

well honestly i could care less about other drivers :/ , and i checked out xenon 8000k and it dosent have alot of color its white with a lil bit of blue so i dont think its gonna bother uncoming traffic

[K-Shark]

well honestly i could care less about other drivers :/ , and i checked out xenon 8000k and it dosent have alot of color its white with a lil bit of blue so i dont think its gonna bother uncoming traffic

not trying to judge, but you should most definately care about other drivers...
golden rule applies here.

don't get the 8000K. anything less than 6000K will be good.

like the person above said...it seems like you're set on your ways, but almost everyone that has posted in this thread has said < 6000K.

[EPSU3]

not trying to judge, but you should most definately care about other drivers...
golden rule applies here.

don't get the 8000K. anything less than 6000K will be good.

like the person above said...it seems like you're set on your ways, but almost everyone that has posted in this thread has said < 6000K.

yeah, i want HIDs but i don't want to blind people. I have an 03 and I hear they glare, but what if i buy the xenon xenith kit bi-xenon with the glare shield? Will that take care of the glare problems? I want good lights, but not at the cost of the safety of others.

[v1c10us]

do not buy 8000k
even a 4300k kit will look much bluer.
I dont know if you've seen a Prius with HID's or an is300(comparable because they use 4300k HID with reflectors as opposed to projectors), but they are much bluer than halogen bulbs.
8000k will be no where near double the light output of halogen. The highest quality kits only show a 400lumen increase over halogen bulbs at that color temperature.
Many people mistake Lumens for luminous flux and other light characteristics.
Caution: technical content
Blue light has a very short wavelength, this causes it to scatter rapidly in the air and cause incredible glare. This light scattering is often mistaken for increased light output to the naked eye when in actuality you are seeing less.
Because blue light is so close to ultraviolet light it creates alot of strain on the eyes, this causes fatigue and is generally dangerous especially for oncoming traffic.
Factor this in with the changes between lights.
A typical driver sees many halogen headlights and the eyes adjust to this, when you come over the hill and they see harsh blue glare it takes a few seconds for the eyes to adjust, temporarily blinding traffic. If it werent for the fact that the headlights are so dim opposing traffic would not be able to see a damn thing.

The reason most car interiors come with orange or red lights is that they are the longest wavelength and very close to infrared, this causes very little fatigue on the eyes. People with sensitive eyes would be irritated and have a difficult time driving at night in a car with blue dials and lights everywhere.

As you go from the visible spectrum to ultraviolet the amount of light produced decreases greatly because light works on the additive color system.
To create pure white light you need equal parts of all of the colors, Red, Orange, Yellow, Green, Blue, Indigo and Violet.
Blue light only contains blue indigo and violet and very pure blue light will not even contain the violet.

So if you want good output do not exceed 6000k and if you want the best most pure white and bright output get a 4300k kit.
Sunlight is around 4300k and it is very bright.

If you want to see what the colors are going to look like go to home depot and buy 3 flourescent bulbs.
A soft glow bulb represents a halogen light, a daylight bulb represents 4300k and a pure white bulb represents 6000k
If you look at a soft glow bulb in the daylight it looks very yellow
If you look at a daylight bulb in the daylight it looks identical, and a pure white bulb looks blue.
Now look at these at night and even the daylight bulb looks very bright incomparison to the light you see around the house and on streets.
A pure white bulb will almost be uncomfortable blue the first time you plug it in.

[cg78]

The more blue the more glaring, it's just the way our eyes are, so basicly 4300K and under is the more "incoming traffic friendly", however, slamming some plug and play HID in stock reflectors housing, specially H4 is just plain stupid and total lack of respect for fellow drivers.

Ricers :tehehyper:

I use reflective housings and I am not a ricer. I respect other drivers and never get any negative feedback about my lights.


yeah, i want HIDs but i don't want to blind people. I have an 03 and I hear they glare, but what if i buy the xenon xenith kit bi-xenon with the glare shield? Will that take care of the glare problems? I want good lights, but not at the cost of the safety of others.


I have a glare shield on mine and it seems to work. Like I said before not a single time have I ever been flashed or messed with because of my headlights. Besides you can always retro your headlights later if you hate the glare. At least the hid's are already wired.

[EVOKIN]

Where did you get the glare shield? What company make that for 02-03? Thanks.

[wishbear]

i got hids on my 03 and it fine no glare

[ep3drc]

ok u guys convinced me im goin with 6000k better visibility is better than color anyways im hopin it still looks blue though since i want it to match wit my ep

[adrian1281]

To the OP, you have alot of reading to do. Since I'm in such a good mood today, I figure I'll spoon feed it to you...

A very old site but is a good source of information:
http://faqlight.carpassion.info/hl-hid-bulbs.htm

A picture to give you an idea of the color differences between the Kelvins ratings on bulbs/kits:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v511/Ocelaris/Lighting/HID20kelvin.jpg

This came from here, which is also worth the time to read:
http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=31997

Finally, you should look at the videos on this post since they give a good example of what you don't want:
http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=21129


I hate to sound like I'm bashing you, but wanting "blue" headlights is: :gheywa:

[EPSU3]

that's awesome, looks like i'm staying under 6,000

[subie]

go for 8k i had 6k but had to switch to 8k. they are fine no glare :) depends on what BRAND you purchase.