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icarus.na
08-13-2008, 10:04 PM
part iii on page 2!
mini-update iii.v on page 8

thought i would share my retrofit project with everyone here on ephatch. i love this forum and thought it wouldn't be a bad idea to document my arduous journey to put TSX projectors and OEM HID Lights into my UKDM 04-05 CTR Halogen Projector Headlights.

NO GLARE FTMFW!

so it begins...
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/1172/img0518xw8.jpg

i was lucky enough to swoop up on some used CTR headlights for a great price and in really good condition. pretty much a steal...

unfortunately the halogen projector lenses that are in my CTR headlights don't produce the cutoff i want. i didn't want to have any glare because it's dangerous for other drivers on the road (and in my personal opinion HELLA rude). so i did some homework and then hit up ebay...

...and before you know it, the UPS man delivered this...DON'T YOU LOVE THE UPS GUY?!
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/1162/img0528ku9.jpg

beautiful aren't they?

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/7386/img0529me1.jpg

and a back look...MmMMmMM OEM d2s glory...

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/7006/img0530sc8.jpg

i purchased this perfect (and i mean flawless) set of TSX projectors off ebay for a pretty fair price. the cost of shipping was a bitch though...

the reasons why i chose TSX projectors were because they're regarded as having one of the best cutoffs of any projector lenses and the simplicity of just swapping out lenses.

these bad boys are going to be color modded down the road...

icarus.na
08-13-2008, 10:04 PM
up next i had to think about ballasts, ignitors, etc. and everything else that goes with it. again i did some homework...scoured the internet for the best deal...

...and craigslist led me to these.

http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/5404/img0514dq9.jpg

OEM honda/acura ballasts. as you can see they're a lil' beat up...there were even minor spots of oxidation. i cleaned them off real good and some dirt/blemishes were just impossible to get out.

so i had to go put in some work...these things weren't going to clean themselves.

http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/6641/img0523pz1.jpg

i took some sandpaper to them and got out all the lil' rust spots and blemishes that rubbing alcohol and elbow grease couldn't get out. i'll also wanted to create a good surface for some 3M mounting tape and 3M weatherstrip/gasket adhesive to adhere to. didn't want to cut any corners here i cleaned them off again and wasted half a can of this...

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/5954/img0526ym4.jpg

i didn't want any dust to eff with the electrical connections and it was just the extra step i wanted to take to get this thing clean as possible.

i eventually ended up with this...

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/3220/img0515ok4.jpg

and a close up of the ballast...

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/320/img0516fm7.jpg

more to come later...this is a work in progress!

KrypTOniTE
08-13-2008, 10:13 PM
there a Beauty.... :mcool:

thisisagame24
08-13-2008, 10:16 PM
why dont you just color mod them when you intall them in to the headlights instead of reopening them to do it? its real simple to do.....or am i just not reading you right haha?

icarus.na
08-13-2008, 10:30 PM
why dont you just color mod them when you intall them in to the headlights instead of reopening them to do it? its real simple to do.....or am i just not reading you right haha?

lol! you're not reading me right. this is a work in progress...

i will most definately color mod them when the TSX projectors are outside of my headlights.

icarus.na
08-13-2008, 10:32 PM
there a Beauty.... :mcool:

thank you! thank you! have you ever seen j00stin's (sp?) avatar? yours and his look somewhat similar, but maybe i'm smokin'...

icarus.na
08-14-2008, 08:18 AM
so i still need to pair my headlights up to some d2s bulbs.

does anyone have any suggestions?

i'm lookin' at the philips 4300K and 6000K, but am willing to hear other thoughts.

thisisagame24
08-14-2008, 10:57 AM
those are the only two i would use. if you go higher than 6000k you will see a significant drop in light being put on the road. i personally am using 5800k and love them. its a nice mix between the light out put of the 4300k and th color of the 6000k

icarus.na
08-14-2008, 11:10 AM
those are the only two i would use. if you go higher than 6000k you will see a significant drop in light being put on the road. i personally am using 5800k and love them. its a nice mix between the light out put of the 4300k and th color of the 6000k

you got a link on the bulbs you use and maybe a link on where to source them?

thanks.

thisisagame24
08-14-2008, 11:14 AM
i believe i found them on ebay.....ill go check for ya and see if i can find anything

i do have an extra set of 4300k bulbs too

thisisagame24
08-14-2008, 11:27 AM
here ya go
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-5000K-Philips-85122-D2S-Xenon-HID-Bulbs-Germany_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ36476QQihZ025QQ itemZ380053367252QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/5000K-Philips-HID-bulbs-D2S-BMW-Ci-i-Xi-M3-X5-S2000-RX8_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ36476QQihZ017QQitem Z270263689064QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

icarus.na
08-14-2008, 11:48 AM
i believe i found them on ebay.....ill go check for ya and see if i can find anything

i do have an extra set of 4300k bulbs too

are you inferring that you're selling them?
i kinda want to buy new bulbs, so i have the peace of mind and the fact that i won't have to replace them in the near future.
but if the price is right and they're in great condition i'd consider.

thanks for those ebay links too.

thisisagame24
08-14-2008, 12:38 PM
pm coming your way

icarus.na
08-14-2008, 05:39 PM
thanks mike! keepin' my fingers crossed that you can pull some strings...

i obviously need some bulbs to complete this retro.

rspjean
08-14-2008, 06:10 PM
i have the same headlights (well i dont know if they are jdm or ukdm) and my cut off it terrible i want to do something like this as well but have no knowledge about this what so ever. would those tsx projectors match up without modification ? and what do u mean by color mod i always wanted the purple/pink hid's. i have blue at the moment.

thisisagame24
08-14-2008, 06:30 PM
i have the same headlights (well i dont know if they are jdm or ukdm) and my cut off it terrible i want to do something like this as well but have no knowledge about this what so ever. would those tsx projectors match up without modification ? and what do u mean by color mod i always wanted the purple/pink hid's. i have blue at the moment.

they fit with no problems. color modding is refering to the cut off line. usualy its is solid white...color mod will make the cut off line have more blue or pink or purple...depending on how many washers are used

regular cut-off
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c186/megatron82/stocktsx.jpg

color modded cut-off.....this iswith 2 washers
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c186/megatron82/4washermod.jpg

those are oem 4300k bulbs in tsx projectors (thanks to my boy nino)

to get a pink color you will need 10,000 or 12,000k bulbs, wich ill be 100% for show purposed because you will have absolutly no light being put on the ground. so you better bring a flashlight in your car to point in front of you so you know where your going:mbiggrin:

and you probably have a horrible cut off becuase you put HIDs in to the halogen houseings. to get a real good cut off like that you need hid projectors such as the tsx ones

D3xn2o
08-14-2008, 07:06 PM
Can you explain this Color modding that you did where do the washers go 2 for the mod?

cl0ckw0rksi02
08-14-2008, 07:06 PM
so i still need to pair my headlights up to some d2s burners.

does anyone have any suggestions?

i'm lookin' at the philips 4300K and 6000K, but am willing to hear other thoughts.

you mean bulbs. burners are another name for the ignitor. 4300k should be good. i do plan on switching mine up for some 6000k bulbs. i just can't cough up $200+ on philips ultinon bulbs right now.



i have the same headlights (well i dont know if they are jdm or ukdm) and my cut off it terrible i want to do something like this as well but have no knowledge about this what so ever. would those tsx projectors match up without modification ? and what do u mean by color mod i always wanted the purple/pink hid's. i have blue at the moment.

you might as well duct tape black lights to your front bumper.

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/4936/ciechartqu9.jpg

FYI: the higher the k(kelvin) you go which would be more color the less visible light you'd have.

cl0ckw0rksi02
08-14-2008, 07:10 PM
Can you explain this Color modding that you did where do the washers go 2 for the mod?

2 #8 washers on each side of the bottom nipples of the projector.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c186/megatron82/DSC00026.jpg

thisisagame24
08-14-2008, 07:12 PM
boooo you beat me to it

here is another look at where the nipple is

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f303/pelhamqb11/projectors01.jpg

v1c10us
08-14-2008, 07:25 PM
i would go with phillips 4300k bulbs, if you want anything bluer go with the phillips ultinon
phillips bulbs show 200-300 higher lumens over osram bulbs.
on another note, if you want the pinky purpley thing you need to change the lense on your projectors and then mud the actual cut off shield, not just put in washers, that will hardly yield ideal results.

All that adding washers does is move the cut off shield out of focus, blurring the cut off and creating slightly more color.
By increasing the depth of the cut offshield you can get a larger cut off which more color, You can also trim it down and use aluminum flashing for a razer sharp cut off line like the s2k projectors.

By adding depth to both ends of the cut off shield you can create light in both sides of the spectrum, much like nissan maxima projectors, this will give you pink purple blue orange yellow and a little bit of red.
you can get any color its just a matter of knowing what you are doing, washers will work but its not very good.
you can bondo aluminum flashing to the front and back of the cut off shield to get better color, just dont alter the height of the shield in anyway.

icarus.na
08-14-2008, 07:53 PM
so when i last left off i just finished cleaning up the ballasts that i got from craigslist...i also picked up ignitors and bulbs with them...it was a good package deal that you just couldn't pass up...

what i didn't mention was that my friend actually picked these up for me from a kid up in the city (san francisco) and he didn't notice that the bulbs were two different ones...why this kid was riding around with two different bulbs is beyond me, but hey i didn't notice til' i got back home...

so now i have 1 philips d2r bulb (LEFT)...
and 1 philips d2s bulb (RIGHT)...

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/9042/img0552dj2.jpg

BUT i wasn't gentle enough for them during the ride on the BART (bay area rapid transit)...

notice the d2s bulb's metal thingy is snapped...OUCH!
http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/966/img0551ii2.jpg

and a close up of the philips d2r bulb. notice the paint on the bulb. this acts as a glare shield to help aid in HID reflector housings...

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/3308/img0550ba6.jpg

so it sucks. the d2s bulb that would be ideal in my projector housing is broken and the d2r bulb is totally useless to me in my setup...anyone want a d2r? oh well, i was going to buy new bulbs from the beginning anyways.

at least the ignitors look good and i'll be able to use these in my retro.

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/1157/img0553by4.jpg

so this is where i am at as of now.
2 x headlights
2 x tsx projectors
2 x OEM honda/acura ballasts
2 x ignitors

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/5772/img0520dd3.jpg

can someone tell me what the hell is this "black box" below the high beam socket? is it leveling motors?! do any lighting gurus have information on how i can hook these up to work if they are leveling motors?

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/2061/img0538ix4.jpg

next week i want to get my hands on some bulbs if possible and start making a harness...i've spent alot of money so far and i need to cut corners wherever i can.

cl0ckw0rksi02
08-14-2008, 07:59 PM
nice. keep up the good work. this is by far the best mod on my hatch as of date.

rspjean
08-14-2008, 08:00 PM
wow i never knew pink lights were bad for lighting, which is the best for lighting blue? would tsx projectors be the best projectors to buy ? i have always heard talk about s2k projectors being the best but then again i know nothing about this stuff. i went to my garage and took a couple of pics of how bad my cut off is.



my lights

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h218/daredevil3six/DSCN1512.jpg


cheap hids. i just bought cheap ones cuz i dont know which are good so i dont want to invest serious money until im sure they are worth it.

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h218/daredevil3six/DSCN1511.jpg


front view with hids on


http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h218/daredevil3six/DSCN1515.jpg



cut off


http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h218/daredevil3six/DSCN1516.jpg

icarus.na
08-14-2008, 08:02 PM
i have the same headlights (well i dont know if they are jdm or ukdm) and my cut off it terrible i want to do something like this as well but have no knowledge about this what so ever. would those tsx projectors match up without modification ? and what do u mean by color mod i always wanted the purple/pink hid's. i have blue at the moment.

subscribe to this thread homie. i gotchu.

cl0ckw0rksi02
08-14-2008, 08:04 PM
can someone tell me what the hell is this "black box" below the high beam socket? is it leveling motors?! do any lighting gurus have information on how i can hook these up to work if they are leveling motors?

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/2061/img0538ix4.jpg


yes those are the leveling motors. i don't have those on mine but i'm sure this will help...

http://www.speedstar-racing.com/store/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/31_50/products_id/462?osCsid=0845c81fcdec6cfab9d35b270d469583

cl0ckw0rksi02
08-14-2008, 08:05 PM
wow i never knew pink lights were bad for lighting, which is the best for lighting blue? would tsx projectors be the best projectors to buy ? i have always heard talk about s2k projectors being the best but then again i know nothing about this stuff. i went to my garage and took a couple of pics of how bad my cut off is.



my lights

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h218/daredevil3six/DSCN1512.jpg


cheap hids. i just bought cheap ones cuz i dont know which are good so i dont want to invest serious money until im sure they are worth it.

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h218/daredevil3six/DSCN1511.jpg


front view with hids on


http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h218/daredevil3six/DSCN1515.jpg



cut off


http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h218/daredevil3six/DSCN1516.jpg

rhd halogen cut-off

rspjean
08-14-2008, 08:06 PM
subscribe to this thread homie. i gotchu.

straight. i was planing on seeing how yours turned out and going with that.



btw sorry for thread jacking lol

cl0ckw0rksi02
08-14-2008, 08:06 PM
Shield comparison. TSX on the left and halogen RHD shield
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c186/megatron82/DSC00018.jpg

icarus.na
08-14-2008, 08:07 PM
wow i never knew pink lights were bad for lighting, which is the best for lighting blue? would tsx projectors be the best projectors to buy ? i have always heard talk about s2k projectors being the best but then again i know nothing about this stuff. i went to my garage and took a couple of pics of how bad my cut off is...

...cheap hids. i just bought cheap ones cuz i dont know which are good so i dont want to invest serious money until im sure they are worth it.

yes you want to generally stick within 4300K-6000K.
6000K is a good color temp for that blue-ish look.
TSX projectors are a complete swap, no cutting, trimming, NOTHING!
i think the s2k projectors are smaller than the TSX projectors...but someone correct me if i'm wrong please.

IMHO, i think your set-up looks great, but i do see where you could want a better cutoff.

icarus.na
08-14-2008, 08:09 PM
nice. keep up the good work. this is by far the best mod on my hatch as of date.

editted posts! what year ep you got? i need help making a harness...

rspjean
08-14-2008, 08:09 PM
rhd halogen cut-off

:doh:

thisisagame24
08-14-2008, 08:11 PM
the s2k have a sharpe cut off compared to the tsx

most people go with tsx in the CTR headlights because they are a direct fit, and are a lot cheaper compared to s2k ones

thisisagame24
08-14-2008, 08:12 PM
:doh:

believe that is was came in the 04-05 non type r ep3s....i think they called them the type s. they look identical to the type r just missing the k20a haha

rspjean
08-14-2008, 08:13 PM
the s2k have a sharpe cut off compared to the tsx

most people go with tsx in the CTR headlights because they are a direct fit, and are a lot cheaper compared to s2k ones

less work and less money is always good. how much do tsx projectors go for ?

rspjean
08-14-2008, 08:17 PM
yes you want to generally stick within 4300K-6000K.
6000K is a good color temp for that blue-ish look.
TSX projectors are a complete swap, no cutting, trimming, NOTHING!
i think the s2k projectors are smaller than the TSX projectors...but someone correct me if i'm wrong please.

IMHO, i think your set-up looks great, but i do see where you could want a better cutoff.

thanks, the thing is like u said earlier i find it kind of rude also and i always get the guys that try and blind me back with their high beams since they think im riding around with my high beams on and when i flash my high beams they are like wtf most of the time lol

thisisagame24
08-14-2008, 08:17 PM
i think like 200 but i forget

icarus.na
08-14-2008, 08:21 PM
less work and less money is always good. how much do tsx projectors go for ?

i got mine off ebay. it's all 'bout timing and playing to win!

150 shipped is what i payed for both and this included the entire TSX projector housing: lens, shield, and backing.

i'm assuming you're riding around with a PnP H1 HID kit right?
you would only need lens and shield. you want to retain the H1 backing so you can still use your current HID setup.

the seller was "hondadirect02" if i remember correctly.

thisisagame24
08-14-2008, 08:22 PM
ill talk to my buddy at acura and see if he can hook me up with some

rspjean
08-14-2008, 08:25 PM
wish i had a buddy at acura lol im gonna keep an eye on ebay. is their a way of knowing if they are authentic ?

cl0ckw0rksi02
08-14-2008, 08:26 PM
i would go with phillips 4300k bulbs, if you want anything bluer go with the phillips ultinon
phillips bulbs show 200-300 higher lumens over osram bulbs.
on another note, if you want the pinky purpley thing you need to change the lense on your projectors and then mud the actual cut off shield, not just put in washers, that will hardly yield ideal results.

All that adding washers does is move the cut off shield out of focus, blurring the cut off and creating slightly more color.
By increasing the depth of the cut offshield you can get a larger cut off which more color, You can also trim it down and use aluminum flashing for a razer sharp cut off line like the s2k projectors.

By adding depth to both ends of the cut off shield you can create light in both sides of the spectrum, much like nissan maxima projectors, this will give you pink purple blue orange yellow and a little bit of red.
you can get any color its just a matter of knowing what you are doing, washers will work but its not very good.
you can bondo aluminum flashing to the front and back of the cut off shield to get better color, just dont alter the height of the shield in anyway.

great post but i disagree with you on that statement. each projector will react differently to the color mod. the pics that mike posted are not the best and are out of focus. here are some pics of washer modded tsx projectors.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/exrcoupe/TSX/GotBlueCutoff.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~itsjdmyo/tsx1.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b331/Yanki01/2083616_217_full-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/IvoryGT/Colormods/DSC00407.jpg
that's alot of color if you ask me.

thisisagame24
08-14-2008, 08:26 PM
part numbers and such. kinda hare to make knock offs of them

icarus.na
08-14-2008, 08:30 PM
wish i had a buddy at acura lol im gonna keep an eye on ebay. is their a way of knowing if they are authentic ?

buy from someone with REALLY good feedback.

my seller had 100% so i wasn't tripping. plus i called him up to see if he was legit and went with my gut instinct.

you could also go to junkyards and pull them out youself and possibly cop the entire HID setup.

rspjean
08-14-2008, 08:31 PM
great post but i disagree with you on that statement. each projector will react differently to the color mod. the pics that mike posted are not the best and are out of focus. here are some pics of color modded tsx projectors.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/exrcoupe/TSX/GotBlueCutoff.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~itsjdmyo/tsx1.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b331/Yanki01/2083616_217_full-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/IvoryGT/Colormods/DSC00407.jpg
that's alot of color if you ask me.





those are the tsx ones ? they look amazing i was already pretty much sold on them but this just put a cherry on top.

thisisagame24
08-14-2008, 08:32 PM
yes those are tsx projectors

rspjean
08-14-2008, 08:34 PM
part numbers and such. kinda hare to make knock offs of them

word. anyone got the part number on these ?

rspjean
08-14-2008, 08:35 PM
great post but i disagree with you on that statement. each projector will react differently to the color mod. the pics that mike posted are not the best and are out of focus. here are some pics of washer modded tsx projectors.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/IvoryGT/Colormods/DSC00407.jpg
that's alot of color if you ask me.

how many washers did that one have?

icarus.na
08-14-2008, 08:36 PM
yes those are the leveling motors. i don't have those on mine but i'm sure this will help...

http://www.speedstar-racing.com/store/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/31_50/products_id/462?osCsid=0845c81fcdec6cfab9d35b270d469583

DUUUUDE! wayne wants 200 bucks for it!

guess you got to pay to play...

where's ocelaris when you need him...?

thisisagame24
08-14-2008, 08:37 PM
DUUUUDE! wayne wants 200 bucks for it!

guess you got to pay to play...

wayne does like to over price most of his jdm shit.....but he is the only one to get the rare parts hehe

cl0ckw0rksi02
08-14-2008, 08:37 PM
DUUUUDE! wayne wants 200 bucks for it!

guess you got to pay to play...

lulz. qft

icarus.na
08-14-2008, 08:38 PM
how many washers did that one have?

4 #8 washers most likely. 2 washers on each nipple.

cl0ckw0rksi02
08-14-2008, 08:38 PM
has anyone seen him here on the boards?

thisisagame24
08-14-2008, 08:40 PM
has anyone seen him here on the boards?

wayne????

rspjean
08-14-2008, 08:40 PM
4 #8 washers most likely. 2 washers on each nipple.

aight.

cl0ckw0rksi02
08-14-2008, 08:40 PM
wayne????

ocelaris

rspjean
08-14-2008, 08:41 PM
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:IDMBcJGWH0KulM:http://www.missxpose.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/lil_wayne_arrest.jpg

icarus.na
08-14-2008, 08:42 PM
i checked ocelaris' profile and he hasn't signed on for a loooong time.

if he was up in this thread he'd have all the answers and put everyone to shame...

thisisagame24
08-14-2008, 08:42 PM
ocelaris

i dont think he rejoined after the crash

he didnt really post much at all after he moved to crooklyn

icarus.na
08-14-2008, 08:43 PM
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:IDMBcJGWH0KulM:http://www.missxpose.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/lil_wayne_arrest.jpg

yeah, that's the foo that wants 2 bills for wire and a switch. LMAO!

thisisagame24
08-14-2008, 08:48 PM
silly pill poppers

rspjean
08-14-2008, 08:50 PM
oh btw does it matter what year tsx projectors i get ?

thisisagame24
08-14-2008, 08:53 PM
i dont think so but i could be wrong

icarus.na
08-14-2008, 09:14 PM
oh btw does it matter what year tsx projectors i get ?

i'd shoot for 04-08...not too sure about the lens in the new 09 TSXs, i don't think alot of ppl are familiar with em yet.

rspjean
08-14-2008, 09:19 PM
i'd shoot for 04-08...not too sure about the lens in the new 09 TSXs, i don't think alot of ppl are familiar with em yet.

aight

rspjean
08-14-2008, 09:21 PM
well im out of here guys thanks for all the info. i subscribed so keep the updates coming.

be eazy.

thisisagame24
08-14-2008, 09:26 PM
later d00d

D3xn2o
08-14-2008, 10:38 PM
Im back now... Ok i see what the washers do.... I have the DePo lights on my ep... TSX swap is same as the CTR as far as i kno... I'd like to kno if S2k Pros would bolt up to... And if anyone has some shots of these And I agree the washers do kinda blurr the cut off on the TSX pros regardless its not bad enough to complain about I WANT SOOOOOOOO BAD!!!!

I think if i go the swap Ima just do the projector and shield keep my H1 backing I think it will end up being cheaper for me but i might just give in and get the whole kit and drill thru the bottom and bolt up the stock ballists and ignitors

I dont kno what to do


oh yea and Sub'd this thread woohoo

MOOGEN
08-14-2008, 11:15 PM
Im back now... Ok i see what the washers do.... I have the DePo lights on my ep... TSX swap is same as the CTR as far as i kno... I'd like to kno if S2k Pros would bolt up to... And if anyone has some shots of these And I agree the washers do kinda blurr the cut off on the TSX pros regardless its not bad enough to complain about I WANT SOOOOOOOO BAD!!!!

I think if i go the swap Ima just do the projector and shield keep my H1 backing I think it will end up being cheaper for me but i might just give in and get the whole kit and drill thru the bottom and bolt up the stock ballists and ignitors

I dont kno what to do


oh yea and Sub'd this thread woohoo

D3 No S2000 will not bolt right up but you will cry when you hear the price for s2000 projectors($275~300 just for used projectors) and besides those bad boys come with enough color as it is. Color modding really destroys your width and intensity. Don't believe me, try it and find out for yourselves.

v1c10us
08-14-2008, 11:21 PM
It is a fair amount of color but its the wrong way to do it.
see when the cut off is at the exact focal point of the lense it is in perfect focus, so the line is very sharp, the cut off shield is never put in exact focus from the factory in HID projectors because it provides little to no color, what you are doing is putting it even further out, creating a more out of focus cut off, this is what makes it bigger because it blurs.
You can get the same thickness but with more vivid color by increasing the thickness of the shield.
If you had not put washers and had instead found a way to move the shield the other way from the lense your color would be on the other side of the spectrum and you would have gotten orangey or red light.
The light spectrum goes: Red Orange Yellow Blue Indigo Violet
In perfect focus its right between yellow and blue creating basically white light.
You moved it past that and out of focus creating blue, if you added more washers it would have gotten even blurrier and purpler untill eventually you would have a very large but very dim violet cut off line.
If you keep it in focus but build up the thickness you will get a crisp blue line in the middle with a yellow to orange with a tiny bit of red blurry line on the top and the same on the bottom but in indigo and violet.
You can do it any way you want, but if you want maximum color like maxima lenses thats what you need to do.
If you want Razor sharp blue cut off like the s2000 lenses you need to file down the exsisting cut off and put a thin piece of flashing on the lense side of the cut off shield with similiar shape.
You can also make it flat if you do not want the flare on the end of the cut off line.

edit: clockworksi you have 2 different projectors shown in your post.
The top and bottom projector is fine, it doesnt even look modded if you ask me. The middle 2 projectors are shameful, horribly out of focus, refractions all over the place. the reflector basin is throwing light all over the place because its not all aimed correctly anymore because of the distance.

v1c10us
08-14-2008, 11:24 PM
and as moogen said right above me color modding with washers does affect your output and width, you can see a similiar comparison by moving the bulb slightly out of the reflector basin, it changed the focus of the optics similiarly to how adding washers to increase the distance from the lense to the basin does.
Increasing or decreasing the actual size of the cutoffshield or moving it individually like is possible on some projectors does not affect the focal system of the projector so you are only affecting the cut off.

icarus.na
08-14-2008, 11:25 PM
to answer the question on whether or not this would be a PnP affair with the s2k projectors, i say no...

Acura TSX Low Beam (Stanley):
Diameter = 71.05mm
Height = 85.30mm
Width = 120.80mm
Length = 156.45mm
Length(seat of the lens to mounting holes) = 42.00mm
Length(mounting holes to end of bulb) = 96.95mm
Width(between top mounting holes) = 100.45mm
Width(between bottom mounting holes) = 103.45mm
Height(between mounting holes) = 41.50mm

Honda S2000 Low Beam (Koito):
Diameter = 71.70mm
Height = 105.60mm
Width Trimmed = 113.50mm
Length = 135.30mm
Length(seat of the lens to mounting holes) = 41.40mm
Length(mounting holes to end of bulb) = 93.90mm
Mounting hole distances are not measured beacuse most people
would make their own and cut-off stock high beam bracket, width is measured as trimmed.

this information was taken from hidplanet.com
here's the link-
http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4394

MOOGEN
08-14-2008, 11:26 PM
DUUUUDE! wayne wants 200 bucks for it!

guess you got to pay to play...

where's ocelaris when you need him...?

Depo could never replicate auto-leves for the price of thier projector headlights. GJ on the retro and honestly the tsx has enough color as it is stock. Different float for different boats but GJ to you for caring not to just throwing pnp into rhd projectors.

icarus.na
08-14-2008, 11:38 PM
D3 No S2000 will not bolt right up but you will cry when you hear the price for s2000 projectors($275~300 just for used projectors) and besides those bad boys come with enough color as it is. Color modding really destroys your width and intensity. Don't believe me, try it and find out for yourselves.

aiight, well i'm thinkin' i shouldn't fuck with it now...

what's your set-up BTW?

MOOGEN
08-14-2008, 11:55 PM
aiight, well i'm thinkin' i shouldn't fuck with it now...

what's your set-up BTW?

tsx (undmodded) matsushita gen-2 ballast and ignitors with e46 projector fogs modded with 5000k pnp h3. You won't regret not modding because the cutoff is oooh oooh ooh so sharp it could cut your fingers off. when your done have someone drive from down the road, you'll see the colors flicker.

here's a demo of how mine looks!

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p114/xchang03/4.jpg

D3xn2o
08-15-2008, 01:56 AM
D3 No S2000 will not bolt right up but you will cry when you hear the price for s2000 projectors($275~300 just for used projectors) and besides those bad boys come with enough color as it is. Color modding really destroys your width and intensity. Don't believe me, try it and find out for yourselves.

I Wont Cry i have ways of getting stuff but yea if its alot of trouble to swap S2k pros then forget it ill stick to tsx pros


to answer the question on whether or not this would be a PnP affair with the s2k projectors, i say no...

Acura TSX Low Beam (Stanley):
Diameter = 71.05mm
Height = 85.30mm
Width = 120.80mm
Length = 156.45mm
Length(seat of the lens to mounting holes) = 42.00mm
Length(mounting holes to end of bulb) = 96.95mm
Width(between top mounting holes) = 100.45mm
Width(between bottom mounting holes) = 103.45mm
Height(between mounting holes) = 41.50mm

Honda S2000 Low Beam (Koito):
Diameter = 71.70mm
Height = 105.60mm
Width Trimmed = 113.50mm
Length = 135.30mm
Length(seat of the lens to mounting holes) = 41.40mm
Length(mounting holes to end of bulb) = 93.90mm
Mounting hole distances are not measured beacuse most people
would make their own and cut-off stock high beam bracket, width is measured as trimmed.

this information was taken from hidplanet.com
here's the link-
http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4394

Great info.... BTW if anyone is looking for ocelaris He's on HID planet.... try him there


It is a fair amount of color but its the wrong way to do it.
see when the cut off is at the exact focal point of the lense it is in perfect focus, so the line is very sharp, the cut off shield is never put in exact focus from the factory in HID projectors because it provides little to no color, what you are doing is putting it even further out, creating a more out of focus cut off, this is what makes it bigger because it blurs.
You can get the same thickness but with more vivid color by increasing the thickness of the shield.
If you had not put washers and had instead found a way to move the shield the other way from the lense your color would be on the other side of the spectrum and you would have gotten orangey or red light.
The light spectrum goes: Red Orange Yellow Blue Indigo Violet
In perfect focus its right between yellow and blue creating basically white light.
You moved it past that and out of focus creating blue, if you added more washers it would have gotten even blurrier and purpler untill eventually you would have a very large but very dim violet cut off line.
If you keep it in focus but build up the thickness you will get a crisp blue line in the middle with a yellow to orange with a tiny bit of red blurry line on the top and the same on the bottom but in indigo and violet.
You can do it any way you want, but if you want maximum color like maxima lenses thats what you need to do.
If you want Razor sharp blue cut off like the s2000 lenses you need to file down the exsisting cut off and put a thin piece of flashing on the lense side of the cut off shield with similiar shape.
You can also make it flat if you do not want the flare on the end of the cut off line.

edit: clockworksi you have 2 different projectors shown in your post.
The top and bottom projector is fine, it doesnt even look modded if you ask me. The middle 2 projectors are shameful, horribly out of focus, refractions all over the place. the reflector basin is throwing light all over the place because its not all aimed correctly anymore because of the distance.


What do you mean by flashing?

And I deff would love an orangish redish cut off... that would be awesome...

How would i go about doing this in detail

This thread is becoming very informative for Lighting :mbiggrin: I love it...

Thx for all the info... and :ephatch:

OFFICIALLY THREAD JACKED!!!

Sorry dude

D3xn2o
08-15-2008, 02:01 AM
Just to Add here's my car with the depo's Crappy pic it rained i was at a show ohh well only new pic i have :mangel:

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g271/Subx98c/vic/Shaved.jpg

icarus.na
08-15-2008, 10:13 AM
tsx (undmodded) matsushita gen-2 ballast and ignitors with e46 projector fogs modded with 5000k pnp h3. You won't regret not modding because the cutoff is oooh oooh ooh so sharp it could cut your fingers off. when your done have someone drive from down the road, you'll see the colors flicker.

here's a demo of how mine looks!


matsushita is what comes stock on BMWs right? They look really good man, very bimmer like.

i think you've convinced me, i'll opt out on color modding...
maybe i'll toss in one washer for each nipple...idk...

did you make your harness or did you buy it? i still need to tackle this issue...

icarus.na
08-15-2008, 10:16 AM
I Wont Cry i have ways of getting stuff but yea if its alot of trouble to swap S2k pros then forget it ill stick to tsx pros

Great info.... BTW if anyone is looking for ocelaris He's on HID planet.... try him there

What do you mean by flashing?

And I deff would love an orangish redish cut off... that would be awesome...

How would i go about doing this in detail

This thread is becoming very informative for Lighting :mbiggrin: I love it...

Thx for all the info... and :ephatch:

OFFICIALLY THREAD JACKED!!!

Sorry dude

no worries about thread jacking, as long as it pertains somewhat to the topic!

and i'm glad this thread is informative to at least one person, that makes it all worth it to me to keep updating my progress. relaying this information is why i started this thread in the first place.

chrispychicken
08-15-2008, 10:33 AM
no worries about thread jacking, as long as it pertains somewhat to the topic!

and i'm glad this thread is informative to at least one person, that makes it all worth it to me to keep updating my progress. relaying this information is why i started this thread in the first place.

Hey are these my old projectors? I wish I could do the retro fit for these but never had the time. Good luck with the project

MOOGEN
08-15-2008, 12:28 PM
matsushita is what comes stock on BMWs right? They look really good man, very bimmer like.

i think you've convinced me, i'll opt out on color modding...
maybe i'll toss in one washer for each nipple...idk...

did you make your harness or did you buy it? i still need to tackle this issue...

Matsushita can come in variety of cars but majority are from nissans and infinitis(still nissan). I make my own harness because It's really easy and just basic electronics.

icarus.na
08-15-2008, 12:39 PM
Matsushita can come in variety of cars but majority are from nissans and infinitis(still nissan). I make my own harness because It's really easy and just basic electronics.

easy for YOU to say! i have a hard enough time just trying to plug something into a wall, but i am learning...

care to elaborate what type of connections you used to run power to the ballasts?
i don't want to buy the honda harness...they're like 35 bucks each wire.

rspjean
08-15-2008, 01:23 PM
tsx (undmodded) matsushita gen-2 ballast and ignitors with e46 projector fogs modded with 5000k pnp h3. You won't regret not modding because the cutoff is oooh oooh ooh so sharp it could cut your fingers off. when your done have someone drive from down the road, you'll see the colors flicker.

here's a demo of how mine looks!

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p114/xchang03/4.jpg

amazing.

D3xn2o
08-15-2008, 03:12 PM
amazing.



yea i agree

MOOGEN
08-15-2008, 06:42 PM
easy for YOU to say! i have a hard enough time just trying to plug something into a wall, but i am learning...

care to elaborate what type of connections you used to run power to the ballasts?
i don't want to buy the honda harness...they're like 35 bucks each wire.


I'm not sure what year vehicle yours is but I go to autozone or pep boys to get my connector plugs for the civic's stock harness. If you know how to solder, it would make things a lot easier because you could just connect two leads onto the ballast by soldering them on.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p114/xchang03/ballast.jpg

I'm not sure which one is positive but you can always test with a 12v source such as your car battery or a battery charger. Testing them like this won't hurt the ballast at all because they have internal diodes to keep them from powering on. Let me know if I could help you further and sorry to steal your pic.

v1c10us
08-15-2008, 06:42 PM
I Wont Cry i have ways of getting stuff but yea if its alot of trouble to swap S2k pros then forget it ill stick to tsx pros



Great info.... BTW if anyone is looking for ocelaris He's on HID planet.... try him there




What do you mean by flashing?

And I deff would love an orangish redish cut off... that would be awesome...

How would i go about doing this in detail

This thread is becoming very informative for Lighting :mbiggrin: I love it...

Thx for all the info... and :ephatch:

OFFICIALLY THREAD JACKED!!!

Sorry dude


I would have to look into it a tiny bit more to know exactly which side of the shield goes yellow orange red and which side goes blue indigo violet. But just to give you the basic idea: On older projectors the cut off shield were held on by 2 screws that could be loosened and the shield could be slid forward and backward, this is where I learned about creating the colors you want. When I would move it one way the cut off would get sharper and more indigo and violet
when i moved it the other way it would stay roughly the same but be orangey and redish. Keep in mind for this to work you want 4300k HID so that you can have the full spectrum of light, Its hard to split light into a prism when some of its elements are missing.
anyway, to do this there are 2 options.
The first is to find a way to move the cut offshield independently of everything else, you can then slide it (i believe, it may be the other direction.) away from the reflector basin.
The other option is to take the cutoffshield you have and apply JB Weld to the side of the cut off shield quite thick. When it is dry you would sand it so it is flush on top with the old line but it would now be thicker, this thickness gives you the extra color because the light reflected to the lense has a larger boundary, which correlates to a larger more colorful cut off line
edit: you can use flashing also, Flashing, as in Aluminum Flashing can be bought from home depot, its fairly thinish aluminum that could be JB welded to the cut off shield
The reason people use this(and this is what I'll be doing) Is because by creating a very thin perfectly in focus cut off shield you get the most crisp razor sharp cut off ever with very very vivid but not very large color.
I'll try and get you pictures of a comparison of a thick cut off shield versus a thin one so you can see the difference, and see how you want to mod your projectors

MOOGEN
08-15-2008, 06:43 PM
btw do you have ignitors?

3dkahuna
08-15-2008, 07:51 PM
Turned out great man. I wished I had the time and money to do this.

2004ep3hatch
08-16-2008, 05:40 AM
Well i do have the halogen lhd projectors with leveling motors and switch. I was one of the first to try these with bill back in the day. never looked back. Ive had 2 or 3 sets of tsx projectors to install but said to myself i like the way these look. i have a bigger flare for road signs so im not complaining.

The only thing i will complain about is not being able to get oem bulbs. but i have oem ballasts with ignitors built in thankfully. Or at least im under assumption they are oem for somebody. Not honda, i have hella gen 3 ballast adn they have lasted 3 years.

MOOGEN
08-16-2008, 10:15 AM
Well i do have the halogen lhd projectors with leveling motors and switch. I was one of the first to try these with bill back in the day. never looked back. Ive had 2 or 3 sets of tsx projectors to install but said to myself i like the way these look. i have a bigger flare for road signs so im not complaining.

The only thing i will complain about is not being able to get oem bulbs. but i have oem ballasts with ignitors built in thankfully. Or at least im under assumption they are oem for somebody. Not honda, i have hella gen 3 ballast adn they have lasted 3 years.

hella ballast are usually found in bmw's. Yes they are used as oem equipments. Yes, leveling motors are the shizznackle! But I didn't pay $100+ for my switch though.

v1c10us
08-16-2008, 10:49 AM
so you have CTR headlights with oem HID but a rebased bulb?

MOOGEN
08-16-2008, 10:55 AM
so you have CTR headlights with oem HID but a rebased bulb?

No the bulbs don't have to be rebased because all oem projectors take d2s type burners. They are interchangable and most oem ballast share the d2s type bulb holder. You don't always have to get the oem acura ballast becuase they are quite expensive but one advantage is that they bolt right up to the proper spots and makes the engine bay look really clean. I don't have the acura ballast but I just hid the ballasts really well so that no one can see them.

v1c10us
08-16-2008, 11:31 AM
No the bulbs don't have to be rebased because all oem projectors take d2s type burners. They are interchangable and most oem ballast share the d2s type bulb holder. You don't always have to get the oem acura ballast becuase they are quite expensive but one advantage is that they bolt right up to the proper spots and makes the engine bay look really clean. I don't have the acura ballast but I just hid the ballasts really well so that no one can see them.

so CTR projectors can take d2s bulbs as well as H whatever?
i just meant cause 2004ep3hatch said he doesnt have OEM bulbs so i was trying to figure out how he had HID, cause i always thought it could only be with oem burners or rebased ones.

thisisagame24
08-16-2008, 11:44 AM
so CTR projectors can take d2s bulbs as well as H whatever?
i just meant cause 2004ep3hatch said he doesnt have OEM bulbs so i was trying to figure out how he had HID, cause i always thought it could only be with oem burners or rebased ones.

no they cant.....d2s and h4 are differnt bulbs. it looks like they fit but the notches dont match up properly.

technically im not using oem d2s bulbs either....im using phillips 5000k bulbs. and from what im aware of i dont think any one uses those bulbs sock. know acura doesnt. i kinda went the cheap way out because i already had an HID kit on my stock04-05 headlights. all i did was swap out the part that connects the aftermarket ballast to the bulb

MOOGEN
08-16-2008, 03:38 PM
basically, there are different types of bulb bases. The type-r HID comes with d2s burner base(similliar to tsx), If you can't find d2s for a good price and run into d2r instead, you can mod them to work just fine but that's another beast. The type-r halogen whether rhd or lhd will come with h1 halogen base. you can put h1 hid kit in there but will not be that great because the ceramic tube will block some of the light output from the burners. The 02-03 ep3 comes with h4 base which is similliar to all the civics before it and then there's the 04-05 which has the 9005/9006 halogen bulbs. I hope that clarifies what your looking for.

THISISAGAME prolly meant that he had a plug and play kit(non-oem) before and just bought the d2s amp adapters and used 5000k phillips d2s type burners. Correct me if I'm wrong.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p114/xchang03/ampd2s.jpg

**sorry for the run on sentence.**

v1c10us
08-16-2008, 07:08 PM
i was being facetious when I said "so you mean ctr projectors use h whatever blah blah"
Cause moogen said all oem projectors use the same bulbs.

you guys still arent getting what Im saying though, or atleas thats what im getting from what you are saying.
I asked 2004ep3hatch if he had rebased bulbs in his CTR projectors with oem HID components because he said he didnt like that he cant have OEM bulbs.
then moogen said no they dont have to be rebased because they all take the same d2s burners. =\
it was sort of me just clarifying since I already know he has rebased bulbs if he has HID in non HID projectors.

Thisisagame, the phillips crystal vision burners are not used on any cars, its all either 4300k or phillips ultinon, and not many cars use the ultinon, Porsche uses a comparable burner that isn't actually sold by anyone because they have some sort of special deal with osram sylvania

thisisagame24
08-16-2008, 07:15 PM
THISISAGAME prolly meant that he had a plug and play kit(non-oem) before and just bought the d2s amp adapters and used 5000k phillips d2s type burners. Correct me if I'm wrong.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p114/xchang03/ampd2s.jpg

**sorry for the run on sentence.**



you are correct sir...thats the set up im running

D3xn2o
08-17-2008, 12:56 AM
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p114/xchang03/ampd2s.jpg


Those are pretty kool never seen them before....

EVOKIN
08-17-2008, 06:51 AM
Quick question, didn't 02-03 CTR have HID that work with no glare? (I rather have the 02-03 housing than the 04-05 projectors) Anyone can help, thanks in advance.

D3xn2o
08-17-2008, 10:21 AM
Quick question, didn't 02-03 CTR have HID that work with no glare? (I rather have the 02-03 housing than the 04-05 projectors) Anyone can help, thanks in advance.


This be tru its kinda like the maxima's the reflectors are just different i believe the direct light in a different way i dont kno but i kno its possible

icarus.na
08-17-2008, 12:24 PM
I'm not sure what year vehicle yours is but I go to autozone or pep boys to get my connector plugs for the civic's stock harness. If you know how to solder, it would make things a lot easier because you could just connect two leads onto the ballast by soldering them on.
I'm not sure which one is positive but you can always test with a 12v source such as your car battery or a battery charger. Testing them like this won't hurt the ballast at all because they have internal diodes to keep them from powering on. Let me know if I could help you further and sorry to steal your pic.

i don't want to solder anything into those connections. would make things messy if i had to replace parts. i think im just going to use something else other than the oem harness connector plugs...
no worries about the pic, and from the orientation on + and - terminals. using that pic it's the positive terminal on the left and negative on the right.


btw do you have ignitors?

i have ignitors, but i'm lookin' into replacing these.


Turned out great man. I wished I had the time and money to do this.

i'm not done yet... got a looooong way to go still, but i'm making steady progress. =)


hella ballast are usually found in bmw's. Yes they are used as oem equipments. Yes, leveling motors are the shizznackle! But I didn't pay $100+ for my switch though.

where'd you buy the switch? i don't want to pay 200 bucks...

v1c10us
08-17-2008, 01:28 PM
Quick question, didn't 02-03 CTR have HID that work with no glare? (I rather have the 02-03 housing than the 04-05 projectors) Anyone can help, thanks in advance.

yes they did
there was a pair for sale in the classifieds a week ago, might still be there.
It involves a leveling motor.

MOOGEN
08-17-2008, 02:11 PM
I love the 02-03 hid setup also but is very hard to find a set of lhd. I see some members running rhd hid setup and it really bothers me because your pretty much blinding the opposing traffic.

D3xn2o
08-19-2008, 01:18 AM
Cant let this die...

BUMP for updates

EVOKIN
08-19-2008, 11:54 AM
02-03 CTR HID are like in the $500s. I think I'll stick with regular halogen. I just don't like the bulge on the 04-05 headlight housing. I'll use the money on some other mods. Thanks for all the info.

v1c10us
08-19-2008, 12:30 PM
hey what'd you do with the projectors you took out of the headlights?

blackyEP3
08-19-2008, 01:38 PM
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p114/xchang03/ampd2s.jpg


Those are pretty kool never seen them before....

My HIDs came with D2S ballasts & bulbs...never knew this existed....till now.

icarus.na
08-20-2008, 09:00 AM
hey what'd you do with the projectors you took out of the headlights?

i haven't even opened them up yet sir.

i need to collect all the parts so i can do it in one weekend...

icarus.na
08-20-2008, 12:06 PM
Cant let this die...

BUMP for updates

i have no intentions on letting this die!

as soon as i have more progress done that's more update worthy i'll post. right now i still have to figure out my harness, what color temp/bulbs i want, leveling motors, etc.

I HAVE A LOOOONG way to go mang.

icarus.na
08-20-2008, 12:07 PM
Well i do have the halogen lhd projectors with leveling motors and switch. I was one of the first to try these with bill back in the day. never looked back. Ive had 2 or 3 sets of tsx projectors to install but said to myself i like the way these look. i have a bigger flare for road signs so im not complaining.

The only thing i will complain about is not being able to get oem bulbs. but i have oem ballasts with ignitors built in thankfully. Or at least im under assumption they are oem for somebody. Not honda, i have hella gen 3 ballast adn they have lasted 3 years.


hella ballast are usually found in bmw's. Yes they are used as oem equipments. Yes, leveling motors are the shizznackle! But I didn't pay $100+ for my switch though.

where'd you guys source your leveling motors? any help is appreciated.

MOOGEN
08-20-2008, 12:56 PM
the leveling motors came with the headlights but the switch is off of an euro focus. Yeah, it works but you gotta play around with the circuitry. I'll try to get you a pic of the switch.

icarus.na
08-29-2008, 03:17 PM
i found a way to get power to the ballasts with these sockets i got from the guys in the repair shop at my work.

they're molex connectors and they're alot cheaper than the 30+ dollars each honda wants for the harness, when all i need are the pigtail connectors.

bump for an update coming soon.

icarus.na
09-03-2008, 10:10 PM
bump because i just ordered philips d2s 85122+ bulbs.

still got more parts to source:
-harness
-low beam socket covers
-butyl rubber sealant
-NEW ballast gasket that goes between ballast and the bottom of the headlight (anyone have a OEM part number?)

more progress is being made and i haven't forgotten about this thread!

edit: OH AND LEVELING MOTORS!!!

paulmofyourhand
09-04-2008, 06:32 AM
I'm not sure what year vehicle yours is but I go to autozone or pep boys to get my connector plugs for the civic's stock harness. If you know how to solder, it would make things a lot easier because you could just connect two leads onto the ballast by soldering them on.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p114/xchang03/ballast.jpg

I'm not sure which one is positive but you can always test with a 12v source such as your car battery or a battery charger. Testing them like this won't hurt the ballast at all because they have internal diodes to keep them from powering on. Let me know if I could help you further and sorry to steal your pic.

go to acura and order the connector + pigtals.

MOOGEN
09-04-2008, 09:25 AM
go to acura and order the connector + pigtals.

He said that he already found an alternative.

Reading PWN's You! :mconfused: :mwink:

paulmofyourhand
09-04-2008, 10:31 AM
nah not really. he probably stuck in some connectors to slide on. but they won't hold as good as the acura connectors.

pwnt!

MOOGEN
09-04-2008, 11:22 AM
key word "alternative" paul! PWNS U! LOL.

freelunch
09-04-2008, 06:06 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/yeedub/HID%20Project/917c36ae.jpg

The polarities are as labled in the above picture if you have the ballast upside down with the connector facing you.

icarus.na
09-04-2008, 08:36 PM
nah not really. he probably stuck in some connectors to slide on. but they won't hold as good as the acura connectors.

pwnt!

lol! yes, yes...reading the thread would have been beneficial, but like stated i found molex connectors that act like the acura pigtails.

and these WILL hold just as good as the acura connectors...i can literally twirl the ballast around by the wires and it is a solid connection, but the acura pigtails would be somewhat more "weatherproofed".

i will show you guys detailed pics when i update with lots and lots of pics.

still sourcing parts at the moment and my funds are depleting fast...fucking fast...=(

MOOGEN, can you take pics of your leveling motor switch from the focus? i would really like to see it 'cause i'm debating on just giving wayne two bills for the OEM switch...

thanks for reading my thread everyone!

icarus.na
09-08-2008, 09:29 PM
mini-update iii.v

i don't wanna let this thread die, so here's a lil' update on my progress.
if it's not too hot this weekend then imma pull the trigger and get this bitch done this weekend! let's hope for nice "productive" weather!

PLEASE EXCUSE THE IPHONE PICS! they're not the greatest, but i didn't have my work camera handy...

i got a package today!
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/8227/img0157zd0.jpg

it contained 9006/9005 harness from here:
suvlights.com
http://www.suvlights.com/product_info.php?products_id=112
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/5412/img0158vp2.jpg

some zip-ties and relays. where's an ideal place to mount the relays to?
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/781/img0162ka9.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/443/img0165qa4.jpg
close-up...
http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/8398/img0163it2.jpg

now i need to know which is the 9006 low beam and which is 9005 high beam... i checked my car and it should be blue = high beam and white = low beam. SOMEONE PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG! i'm going to cut the white plug off and solder on a molex connector to power my ballasts.
http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/4391/img0161do9.jpg

remember how i wanted to get power to the ballast w/o soldering wire directly onto the wire prongs ghetto style?
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/8749/img0173wq9.jpg

i got these molex pigtails and AWG18 wires from the guys in the repair shop @ the place where i work...saved me ~$60-$70 from buying the OEM harness from honda. will i run into a problem soldering AWG18 to the AWG14 of the suvlights.com harness?
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/747/img0166ng5.jpg
close-ups...
http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/5291/img0168sl4.jpg
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/6694/img0167ki0.jpg

BAM! this pic is for the people who said it couldn't be done! snug as a bug in a rug doin' his favorite drug!
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/2952/img0169eo9.jpg

here's a pic of me holding the ballast up by the wires, suspending it in mid-air to show that these molex connectors are a solid connection. i can literally swing the ballast around in circles by the wires.
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/3240/img0176ns7.jpg

i'm waiting on parts to come from stoop (Ron) now...they should arrive later this week hopefully.

thanks in advance for any advice given and for taking a look!

thisisagame24
09-08-2008, 09:32 PM
thats a lot of red x's my friend

icarus.na
09-08-2008, 09:39 PM
links to pics fixed.

shadowmd
09-09-2008, 04:34 AM
really nice man.....i just hope u never get in a front end collision after all this work...... :meek: :mcry:

D3xn2o
09-09-2008, 08:12 AM
links to pics fixed.



Isn't the Wait to finish the project just killing you?

Can't wait to see the finished product


I need to start on my shield color mod for my depo's :mcry:

icarus.na
09-10-2008, 08:12 AM
so does anyone know if it's a bad idea to solder AWG18 wire to AWG14 wire?

also, does anyone know for sure which is 9006 and which is 9005?
http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/4391/img0161do9.jpg

bumpity!

icarus.na
09-10-2008, 03:06 PM
anyone?

bmyers4321
03-19-2010, 09:57 AM
Since this is a retro thread i guess i should just ask here instead of making a new thread. If i swap in tsx projectors into my depo's will i still be able to use H1 HID kit i got with it?

sorry old thread but it is on page 1

Demonicrsx
03-20-2010, 12:10 AM
Since this is a retro thread i guess i should just ask here instead of making a new thread. If i swap in tsx projectors into my depo's will i still be able to use H1 HID kit i got with it?

sorry old thread but it is on page 1

No you will not be able to use them. Since the TSX projectors uses D2S hid bulbs, you will need to get D2S/D2R ignitors and ballasts. Doesn't have to be made by honda, try searching for ballasts and ignitors and bulbs from a car that have projectors HID.

ep-unit
09-08-2010, 06:01 PM
can i use s2k projectors and will it be an easy swap like with the tsx projectors?

thisisagame24
09-08-2010, 06:20 PM
no the s2k projectors are a lot bigger than the tsx. the tsx projectors are the only one that is a direct swap in to the ep headlights

ep-unit
09-11-2010, 01:53 AM
you are correct sir...thats the set up im running

thisisagame24, explain this setup, i have an H1 hid kit on my ctr projectors and wanted to possibly use my existing hid kit for my tsx projector swap, are these used along with the oem D2S bulbs? Im clueless, i wanted to get around spending 300-350 plus on oem ballast, igniters etc....

ep-unit
09-11-2010, 01:55 AM
basically, there are different types of bulb bases. The type-r HID comes with d2s burner base(similliar to tsx), If you can't find d2s for a good price and run into d2r instead, you can mod them to work just fine but that's another beast. The type-r halogen whether rhd or lhd will come with h1 halogen base. you can put h1 hid kit in there but will not be that great because the ceramic tube will block some of the light output from the burners. The 02-03 ep3 comes with h4 base which is similliar to all the civics before it and then there's the 04-05 which has the 9005/9006 halogen bulbs. I hope that clarifies what your looking for.

THISISAGAME prolly meant that he had a plug and play kit(non-oem) before and just bought the d2s amp adapters and used 5000k phillips d2s type burners. Correct me if I'm wrong.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p114/xchang03/ampd2s.jpg

**sorry for the run on sentence.**

thisisagame24, explain this setup, i have an H1 hid kit on my ctr projectors and wanted to possibly use my existing hid kit for my tsx projector swap, are these used along with the oem D2S bulbs? Im clueless, i wanted to get around spending 300-350 plus on oem ballast, igniters etc....

MOOGEN
09-12-2010, 10:19 AM
thisisagame24, explain this setup, i have an H1 hid kit on my ctr projectors and wanted to possibly use my existing hid kit for my tsx projector swap, are these used along with the oem D2S bulbs? Im clueless, i wanted to get around spending 300-350 plus on oem ballast, igniters etc....

Yep, just those and d2s or d2r modified bulbs.

ep-unit
11-12-2010, 02:21 PM
i wanna see pics of the back of houseing, i wanna know how people sealed the back

ep-unit
11-17-2010, 05:07 PM
i wanna see pics of the back of houseing, i wanna know how people sealed the back

bump...

mage182
11-18-2010, 06:51 AM
i wanna see pics of the back of houseing, i wanna know how people sealed the back

You mean the cap, seal, and screw for the low beam? Those parts can be had here.

http://www.japanparts.com/db/partslist.php?KEYWORD=&submit.x=48&submit.y=9&dealer=3&car=52&middlesmall=2:20&maker=&VOLKEY=

ep-unit
11-26-2010, 07:08 PM
what does the ground wire(silver colored) from ignitors ground too, or has anyone ignored the wire, will the bulbs work if not grounded?

mage182
11-28-2010, 08:32 PM
I got my whole retrofit setup from TheRetrofitSource. The ignitor wires they sent me have no ground wire. They said they weren't needed.


what does the ground wire(silver colored) from ignitors ground too, or has anyone ignored the wire, will the bulbs work if not grounded?

ep-unit
11-29-2010, 12:37 PM
I got my whole retrofit setup from TheRetrofitSource. The ignitor wires they sent me have no ground wire. They said they weren't needed.

probably because the set you got was with the aftermarket ignitors, my setup is going to be completely oem (ballast ignitors etc.)

mage182
11-30-2010, 06:49 AM
I am using only OEM parts.

ep-unit
11-30-2010, 01:13 PM
I am using only OEM parts.

got pics of your ignitors?

mage182
11-30-2010, 01:18 PM
I'll post up pics when I get home from work.

vip...9
12-18-2010, 11:57 PM
Any new progress? Love this thread... actually some useful stuff with knowledgeable people!