Not an eptree but....

[VegaS10]

What I did today.

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread/2368830

Alot of this could be applied to the eptree.

[Blackexcoupe]

Thats some very detailed work. I'll probably look into doing the same when I get an alarm installed.

[Windchaser]

Damn, I remember it took me 10 hours to do a 791V alarm install. I had to run a back up battery siren just like you, but I had trouble with the proximity sensors.

[v1c10us]

lemme just say this makes my alarm install look like a mess, half the shit isn't even hooked up, it chirps if i kick the tires or bang the windows and it unlocks shit..
I donno how to hook it up to the lights, the remote start, anything, its a poopy alarm. I've got like 10 miles of unused wire thats not hooked up to anything.

[VegaS10]

There's like 12 hours between the first and last post, but there is about 6 total hours in the whole thing.

I had to stop and eat, take pics, post details, go into town and do some stuff, etc.

It's not difficult if it's planned out properly.

[FoReVaPmP]

Good GOD!!!..... too many wires!!:mconfused:


Great job though, wish I could have the patients for it. :mangel:

[bchaney]

Very nice and detailed.

I was planning on getting an alarm installed but maybe I'll attempt to DIY.

[mattism78]

When I got my car it had a cheapo alarm on it, it would arm and disarm itself randomly. My brother (who specializes in electronics) reached in and ripped it out for me. They never even took the time to hook up the starter kill. Basically a useless noise maker.

Your setup looks really nice. I get nervous around that much wire though.

[Canuck Civic]

Wow this inspires me to get mine working and all cleaned up. How did you wire all those sensors up like glass break,motion,tilt thats all I have left and wire my piezo's up too and the alarm install will be all done.

Update so I might have found my problem I will try what vegas said but on 12 volt they had a wiring diagram and it said something about a 2nd ignition wire which I didn't touch so maybe I'm not getting enough cranking power do you think it says its a black/red wire which I would have the acc wire connected too so I should connect my ign 2which Vegas you say is my 2nd acc which would be the pink/white wire on my alarm (damn I'm stupid but caught it in less then a day) to white/red this should fix it I hope other wise I'm really lost lol.

[VegaS10]

on 12 volt they had a wiring diagram and it said something about a 2nd ignition wire which I didn't touch so maybe I'm not getting enough cranking power

2nd ignition MUST be hooked up. The alarm gets power from the +12 line. The remote start ACTIVATES the ignition lines during start up. If the 2nd ignition is not activated, it will not start.


do you think it says its a black/red wire which I would have the acc wire connected too so I should connect my ign 2which Vegas you say is my 2nd acc which would be the pink/white wire on my alarm to white/red this should fix it I hope other wise I'm really lost lol.

I forgot to ask, but which alarm do you have?

[Canuck Civic]

It's a clifford matrix rsx 3.3 which I'm guessing is very similar to a viper 5701

[Canuck Civic]

would this be how I wire all my sensors up
http://members.cox.net/shaundrake/alarm/HT/addingSensors.jpg

Still need help because the guy doesn`t explain each wire assuming ones 12 volt and ones ground but what are the other 2 ones gotta be the trigger that would wire to the instant trigger input of the alarm which I have the battery backup and hatch trigger wired too.

Also in your post you use a relay for sirens and I have the same number of sirens as you. So pin 87 is 12 volt, pin 86 is it the siren output, is pin 85 ground I just got lost again trying to learn.

is a ecu and fuel pump kill wired much the same like a normally closed starter kill.

ex. starter kill
Pin 87a-to key side of starter(wire going to front of car)
pin 86-12 volt
pin 85-ground when armed
pin 30-car side of starter(wire going to the fuel pump)

Can pin 86 and 85 be swapped cause some wire it up like that and others swap those 2 wires.

Things in brackets would be for fuel pump kill, which doesn`t our immobilizer kill the fuel pump already anyways.

[!@#$%]

That's a lot of work. If my car ever gets stolen, it will probably just be towed anyway.

[adrian1281]

That's a lot of work. If my car ever gets stolen, it will probably just be towed anyway.


That's a shitty attitude to have. You should just leave the keys in the ignition so you don't make life hard for thieves to take it then...

For everyone else who actually cares about keeping their cars, the DEI 507m tilt sensor VegaS10 uses will at least set the alarm off.

Hopefully at least one person who sees a tow truck with the car's alarm going off in the back will call the police...

[thechromecoyote]

what happens when you get towed legitimately? I mean, of course the alarm goes off and whatnot, but isnt that going to cause a huge problem for the tow company? Enough that they might do something drastic like damage the car to get the alarm to stop?

I dont have anything nearly this good, just the new lojack alarm system with cell phone paging. Its... okay, but it doesnt have all the sensors, just txt's or calls you when the car is moving without the ignition being on. I got towed this christmas bc of shitty parking sign wording and I got the call, but couldnt do anything about it. The guy had already left.

[drjd888]

Great info! I was planning on getting an alarm and this will definitely help me out.

[VegaS10]

would this be how I wire all my sensors up
http://members.cox.net/shaundrake/alarm/HT/addingSensors.jpg

Still need help because the guy doesn`t explain each wire assuming ones 12 volt and ones ground but what are the other 2 ones gotta be the trigger that would wire to the instant trigger input of the alarm which I have the battery backup and hatch trigger wired too.

I did'nt use a single diode in my install.

I wired the doors to the green, and the trunk to blue. I used the piggyback harness that came with the glass break, plugged it to the brain and the other end to the shock sensor.

I tapped the blue tilt sensor and blue from the backup battery to the blue wire on the main harness.

If the tilt goes off, it shows as the hath being opened, but either way, the keypad and alarm goes off. The way I have it has yet to give me a false trigger or show an open trigger on disarm or arm.


Also in your post you use a relay for sirens and I have the same number of sirens as you.

Without using a relay, the alarm can run 2 sirens safely. You may be able to skate by with 3, but in the long run, a $3 relay will preserve the life of the alarm.

To do add a relay to drive multiple sirens, wire it like this:

Pin 87 = +12 volts
Pin 86 = brown siren from alarm
Pin 85 = ground
Pin 30 = multisiren output



Is a ecu and fuel pump kill wired much the same like a normally closed starter kill?

Yes. But you had it wrong.

Pin 85 = Ground when armed
Pin 86 = Ignition
Pin 87a = Starter side of starter wire
Pin 30 = Key side of starter wire




Things in brackets would be for fuel pump kill, which doesn`t our immobilizer kill the fuel pump already anyways?

Yes it does, but it's best to just kill the whole ecu completely.


That's a lot of work. If my car ever gets stolen, it will probably just be towed anyway.

I value my cars too much to just "give up"...


what happens when you get towed legitimately? I mean, of course the alarm goes off and whatnot, but isnt that going to cause a huge problem for the tow company? Enough that they might do something drastic like damage the car to get the alarm to stop?

I've never had a car towed, I pay very strict attention to where I park. Not only that, but I am fortunate enough to work where I can see my car all day.

This alarm would not cause any problems for a tow company. But, It'd be a VERY VERY loud distraction for them...

[!@#$%]

You people act like I'm putting Gratis on my windshield.

I'm just being realistic.

[Canuck Civic]

sweet i never looked what i got with my glass break sensor I know I have the same one as you I'm gonna try and get my remote start working tomorrow and then clean the install all up.

So would it be best to leave the relay by the alarm and just run my wires from the under hood fuse box that go to the ecu and extend them all the way to the alarm where the relay is

[Canuck Civic]

Okay I was looking at your ep alarm install how do you wire up your sunroof relay and can you do one for the front windows or do you have to buy those window modules for the alarm.

[VegaS10]

Would it be best to leave the relay by the alarm and just run my wires from the under hood fuse box that go to the ecu and extend them all the way to the alarm where the relay is

Yes. It is much cleaner when you do it like that. I did'nt do that for my ep3, but I did it for my grey hatch.


How do you wire up your sunroof relay and can you do one for the front windows or do you have to buy those window modules for the alarm.

The sunroof is wired so I can vent it and close it. It does not slide, just pop up and down. To do windows, you need modules.

You're going to laugh at this, but I can't use MS Paint for shit, so, I may make a drawing of it, take a pic and post that. I feel like an idiot sometimes....lol.

[Canuck Civic]

Okay I have everything hooked up but nto a ecu kill how do I go about it like a starter kill. I know I use the wire at the underhood fuse and cut it in half, after that I extend the wires to the relay, but which end goes to which pin. Which is considered car side and key side of the ecu?

[Canuck Civic]

Also today I'm going to wire in a fuel pump rocker switch so even if in some way they defeat my alarm they will have to find my fuel pump switch.

[VegaS10]

Read the HT link again. Someone on there has asked the same exact questions and I ended up explaining the relays...pin by pin...