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SamuraiSi
06-05-2011, 08:56 PM
I understand that it's hard to see things clearly in a photo, but that looks beyond the -0.5° stock camber setting. You could probably use a little less, if you have the clearance.

SHG, is right about the softer springs/struts- especially if you're driving on crappy/bouncy roads all the time.

Feel your tire's tread. Is there feathering going on? If so, your toe/in-out is too much.

Yea there's a little feathering. Didn't know that's what it was called, had to look it up and now I know what it is. :msmile:


EP3's tend to wear this way in the rear when theyre lowered and arent stiffly sprung. Reason is the suspension angles change drastically when the suspension compresses and the rear wheels gain a ton of neg camber and toe. What are your alignment specs now?

I don't remember what the specs were but I know they tried to get them as straight as possible.


I got the 3-year alignment plan with Tire Choice so I'm going to try to take it in to get it aligned again since it's been a while. I'll update you guys on if it gets fixed or not after the alignment and camber adjustment. Thanks for the help fellas.

PatrickJamesYu
06-05-2011, 10:12 PM
17x7.5 +40
215/45/17

Too sunken in for a flush but non cambered set up?

ep3jd
06-06-2011, 06:42 AM
17x7.5 +40
215/45/17

Too sunken in for a flush but non cambered set up?

Lil spacer should get you flush. Maybe 10 mm?

PatrickJamesYu
06-06-2011, 12:47 PM
Lil spacer should get you flush. Maybe 10 mm?

I've always been under the impression that spacers are sketchy
Someone prove me wrong?

ep3jd
06-06-2011, 02:43 PM
I've always been under the impression that spacers are sketchy
Someone prove me wrong?

RHCP0801 has had 15 mm spacers with the lugs built in them for over two years. That is dd use


Lots of race cars run them to achieve the prefect balance of function and form.


You cam always use arp stock length, or extended studs with them if it helps you sleep easy at night.

PatrickJamesYu
06-06-2011, 03:55 PM
RHCP0801 has had 15 mm spacers with the lugs built in them for over two years. That is dd use


Lots of race cars run them to achieve the prefect balance of function and form.


You cam always use arp stock length, or extended studs with them if it helps you sleep easy at night.

haha well with extended studs, the factor about it being "hub centric" still isn't there, right?

ep3jd
06-06-2011, 06:32 PM
haha well with extended studs, the factor about it being "hub centric" still isn't there, right?

I don't think I understand your question.


Do you mean that you won't be able to get hub centric spacers if you use extended studs? Because I have no idea why you couldn't..

PatrickJamesYu
06-06-2011, 07:09 PM
No I mean, if I use regular spacers
Than my wheel's hub, can't fit with the car's hub
THUS it wouldn't be hub centric.
Correct?

I mentioned the extended wheel studs, because that would mean I was using spacers
I just worded it wrong
Anyways, do you get my second rendition of my question? haha

ep3jd
06-06-2011, 07:42 PM
You can buy hub centric spacers lol

PatrickJamesYu
06-06-2011, 07:49 PM
You can buy hub centric spacers lol

oh.. haha
send me a picture of these

so they're spacers that not only space the mounting surface of the wheel, but it has a lip for the hub bore of the wheel, to sit over?

ep3jd
06-07-2011, 05:05 AM
Yup, google that ish. They aren't even that expensive.

amrcncllctble
06-07-2011, 09:03 AM
whats the offset on the stock usdm 16x7 04-05 si wheels?
i was looking at some 17x8 +47 wheels with 205/45/17 tires
ive got a 1.75" drop and dont currently have any rubbing issues with stock 16x7 & 205/55/16 tires

SHG_EasyE
06-07-2011, 09:29 AM
I've always been under the impression that spacers are sketchy
Someone prove me wrong?

Nothing wrong with spacers, as long as you have enough thread engagement on the lugs

1fasthb
06-07-2011, 10:53 AM
think a 17x10+20 can fit are car's in the front and back? on a 225/40 or a 225/45? really wanting to try this :S

ep3jd
06-07-2011, 11:12 AM
225/40 don't exist


Do it

27rocks
06-07-2011, 11:23 AM
think a 17x10+20 can fit are car's in the front and back? on a 225/40 or a 225/45? really wanting to try this :S

Maybe in the front with some camber but it will look like ass in the rear. (9's is already pushing it on our cars and no need to go wider (for the performance aspect anyways). You could give it a try, but i'm 100% sure the rear will look like a wannabe JDM drifter douche set up.

1fasthb
06-07-2011, 12:11 PM
Maybe in the front with some camber but it will look like ass in the rear. (9's is already pushing it on our cars and no need to go wider (for the performance aspect anyways). You could give it a try, but i'm 100% sure the rear will look like a wannabe JDM drifter douche set up.

Just for some reason i think 17x9's just look small tome

27rocks
06-07-2011, 12:20 PM
Just for some reason i think 17x9's just look small tome

Put some proper tires on there and you will soon change your mind on that.

ep3jd
06-07-2011, 12:40 PM
I want 17x9 +35 rpf1s with 235/40 really badly now

PatrickJamesYu
06-07-2011, 07:53 PM
So I found some spacers on line
I decided I'm gonna do hub centric, I refuse not to.

But, should I get spacers with the built in studs
OR
Should I get extended studs, with spacers.

SHG_EasyE
06-08-2011, 05:02 AM
I want 17x9 +35 rpf1s with 235/40 really badly now

Dooo it :)


So I found some spacers on line
I decided I'm gonna do hub centric, I refuse not to.

But, should I get spacers with the built in studs
OR
Should I get extended studs, with spacers.

Either way is fine. Evasive runs spacers with built in studs on their time attack Evolution. If youre going to do bolt on you need to make sure the spacers are either wide enough to conceal the stock studs when they are bolted down, or that the wheel has reliefs in the hub surface to make room for the oem stud sticking out a little.

ep3jd
06-08-2011, 05:08 AM
They're just impossible to find.


Is +38 the absolute HIGHEST offset we can so on a 9"?


I ask because I find 17x9 +45 on s2ki all the time, maybe a 5 mm spacer to get it +40 would clear?

Having extra room wouldn't kill me



Also does the wheel design change at all with offset, or just width?

SHG_EasyE
06-08-2011, 09:17 AM
Hm not quite sure, it all depends on your strut setup. I know +35 was damn close to my stock stuts, but now with my FEEL's struts theres a ton of room. The only part that changes with offset is the depth of the center recess of the wheel where the lugs are.

Im now going to be running 4mm spacers behind my rotors to clear my DC5R control arms with the stoptechs, so i will efectively be running +31

27rocks
06-08-2011, 09:31 AM
Hm not quite sure, it all depends on your strut setup. I know +35 was damn close to my stock stuts, but now with my FEEL's struts theres a ton of room. The only part that changes with offset is the depth of the center recess of the wheel where the lugs are.

Im now going to be running 4mm spacers behind my rotors to clear my DC5R control arms with the stoptechs, so i will efectively be running +31
This is funny cause Christian (Hondafreak) is running 17x8 +35 with the same set up but clears them. I guess its cause the spokes stick out a lot more then on the 9's. I'm like seriously less then 1mm from touching with my Rotoras lol, but mine are close to the part of the wheel where it tapers up towards the spokes on the flat part of the wheel.

27rocks
06-08-2011, 09:38 AM
They're just impossible to find.


Is +38 the absolute HIGHEST offset we can so on a 9"?


I ask because I find 17x9 +45 on s2ki all the time, maybe a 5 mm spacer to get it +40 would clear?

Having extra room wouldn't kill me



Also does the wheel design change at all with offset, or just width?

The part you have to worry about more especially in the rear is the trailing arm. The front has more room to play with but like Evan said having coils definitely helps.

SHG_EasyE
06-08-2011, 12:18 PM
This is funny cause Christian (Hondafreak) is running 17x8 +35 with the same set up but clears them. I guess its cause the spokes stick out a lot more then on the 9's. I'm like seriously less then 1mm from touching with my Rotoras lol, but mine are close to the part of the wheel where it tapers up towards the spokes on the flat part of the wheel.

Ohh no I clear the spokes with a cm or so, but I also am close to the barrel of the wheel with the caliper. The reason for the spacers (behind the rotor) is because I am getting contact between the rotor surface and the tip of the LCA. I think it is due to the RCA's and my low ride height. So I need to move the whole rotor, caliper ad wheel out an away from the control arm via the 4mm spacers and 4mm milled from the mounting surface on te caliper brackets. What a pita!

PatrickJamesYu
06-08-2011, 12:31 PM
Either way is fine. Evasive runs spacers with built in studs on their time attack Evolution. If youre going to do bolt on you need to make sure the spacers are either wide enough to conceal the stock studs when they are bolted down, or that the wheel has reliefs in the hub surface to make room for the oem stud sticking out a little.

Okay, but this I wont really know untill I actually buy a spacer, huh?

ep3jd
06-08-2011, 12:35 PM
Just make sure your spacer is a length they would cover the entire stud. RHCP0801 haa the 15 mm and they are good

27rocks
06-08-2011, 12:45 PM
Ohh no I clear the spokes with a cm or so, but I also am close to the barrel of the wheel with the caliper. The reason for the spacers (behind the rotor) is because I am getting contact between the rotor surface and the tip of the LCA. I think it is due to the RCA's and my low ride height. So I need to move the whole rotor, caliper ad wheel out an away from the control arm via the 4mm spacers and 4mm milled from the mounting surface on te caliper brackets. What a pita!

Oh wow!!! This is something entirely new to me haha. That is so odd though because the LCA would still be in the same location even without the RCA's off and i can't picture camber being an issue or a way to fix the problem. I guess milling the bracket is a good solution for that. Plus they are pretty cheap to replace if need be. Sure beats washers lol.

SHG_EasyE
06-08-2011, 04:33 PM
Oh wow!!! This is something entirely new to me haha. That is so odd though because the LCA would still be in the same location even without the RCA's off and i can't picture camber being an issue or a way to fix the problem. I guess milling the bracket is a good solution for that. Plus they are pretty cheap to replace if need be. Sure beats washers lol.

Well I think that the tip of the control arm would sit inside the rotor and clear the braking surface if it werent for the RCA. Also, i think the end of the DC5R arms are fatter and stick out farther than the oem steel arms.

amrcncllctble
06-08-2011, 07:41 PM
would you have to roll fenders/quarters running 17x8 +35 w/ 205/45/17?

PatrickJamesYu
06-09-2011, 02:04 AM
would you have to roll fenders/quarters running 17x8 +35 w/ 205/45/17?
stock height? No

27rocks
06-09-2011, 09:54 AM
would you have to roll fenders/quarters running 17x8 +35 w/ 205/45/17?

Why do you want 205's??

ep3jd
06-09-2011, 10:03 AM
:mcool:

PatrickJamesYu
06-09-2011, 11:01 AM
Why do you want 205's??


:mcool:

Bahahhaha

amrcncllctble
06-09-2011, 07:26 PM
i'm sittin on about a 1.75" drop, there's enough room for me to fit my fingers above the tires and below the fenders

i want 205s cause i like "that stretched shit", just not real dramatic stretch

bearcat91
06-10-2011, 02:41 PM
Looking to buy my first set of rims...dropped on progress springs maybe 1.25" will 16" xxr 002 fit? 16x7 1.5" lip and +0 offset i think.

gamma6
06-10-2011, 05:47 PM
Looking to buy my first set of rims...dropped on progress springs maybe 1.25" will 16" xxr 002 fit? 16x7 1.5" lip and +0 offset i think.

I had h&r 2" drop and my 16x8 fit... a bit of poke and gap between fender and tire...

PatrickJamesYu
06-10-2011, 07:06 PM
Looking to buy my first set of rims...dropped on progress springs maybe 1.25" will 16" xxr 002 fit? 16x7 1.5" lip and +0 offset i think.

If I'm correct the 16x7 with 1.5" lip is not a +0
I believe it's the +40.

The 3.5" is an 8 inch wide wheel.

ep3jd
06-10-2011, 08:06 PM
How about we address the tire size you plan to run first?

PatrickJamesYu
06-10-2011, 10:08 PM
So I picked up some 17x7.5 et35 w/ 215/45 today.
Hopefully they'll sit good with the car.
I didn't want to go replica, but the price was worth waiting a bit longer as I settle down my life.

ep3jd
06-11-2011, 03:46 AM
You had xxr.. Who gives a shit

PatrickJamesYu
06-11-2011, 06:35 PM
You had xxr.. Who gives a shit
oh yeah..

bearcat91
06-12-2011, 07:30 AM
If I'm correct the 16x7 with 1.5" lip is not a +0
I believe it's the +40.

The 3.5" is an 8 inch wide wheel.

Thats good to know...so that should fit pretty easily right? not sure about tires yet

PatrickJamesYu
06-12-2011, 04:37 PM
Thats good to know...so that should fit pretty easily right? not sure about tires yet
Yeah a +40 is very moderate
Only 5mm more poke than stock which to many, is un noticeable.
I say the only way you'd have fitment problems is with bigbrake kits or being super dumped with giant tires.

ep3jd
06-13-2011, 05:07 AM
oh yeah..

I'm not being dick lol I'm just saying.. If they look god it doesn't matter who makes them and what they cost. Bottom line

PatrickJamesYu
06-13-2011, 10:54 AM
I'm not being dick lol I'm just saying.. If they look god it doesn't matter who makes them and what they cost. Bottom line

Haha don't worry I didn't take it that way

PatrickJamesYu
06-13-2011, 09:16 PM
recommended tire size for 17x7.5 +35?
I may be getting 10-15mm spacers.

I'd like to hear from the stancers and the performance guys.

I'ma daily commute guy right now.
I'm on 215/45 but theyre pretty shot. still have some tread left, but its getting pretty darn close.

ep3jd
06-13-2011, 09:42 PM
215/40

1fasthb
06-20-2011, 11:39 PM
so i have been thinking and u guys said u didnt know if 17x10's could fit in the back, so i started looking around and what about 17x10+20 in front and 17x9 +25 in the back could it be pull off this way possibly?

ep3jd
06-21-2011, 05:39 AM
Yeah you could do it. Gonna have to stretch tires, have wheel gap, or crazy camber

powdbyrice
06-21-2011, 04:14 PM
so i have been thinking and u guys said u didnt know if 17x10's could fit in the back, so i started looking around and what about 17x10+20 in front and 17x9 +25 in the back could it be pull off this way possibly?

i dont think i could run 17x10 +20 on my tl... :rofl:

PatrickJamesYu
06-23-2011, 10:01 PM
What are some of the mesh alternatives out there?

I don't like bbs rs styles
but I like the ssr's, enkei 92, axis og
Anyone know some other cheaper alternatives to these wheels?
I know it's rarer in 17's, but I want 17's
16's and 15's are okay too
something that comes in optional 4 lug.


Maybe some specifics so I can actually find them

ep3jd
06-23-2011, 11:17 PM
Bbs rm? Lm? Volk evo 2? Chin straps on the beaches?

303EP
06-26-2011, 07:06 AM
Which will fit better, 16x8.25 0 offset or 17x8.25 +25 offset? I'm lowered 3-3.5" and plan to get low pros...

PatrickJamesYu
06-26-2011, 09:14 AM
I say the 17x8.25

c_law23
06-27-2011, 01:20 PM
I'm looking at buying some 17x7 4x100 inch and a half positive offset (I guess +36ish?) Off a guy on Craigslist. I'm stock right now but looking to match it with progress springs. Sound like a good size? What should I wrap them in? This is a DD only.

Sorry if this is a dumb question but I've never bought wheels and i try to always search but am on my phone atm.

PatrickJamesYu
06-27-2011, 01:47 PM
They'd poke about 10mm more than stock.
So it's not crazy, but it will be very manageable
especially for your first set of aftermarket wheels.

Through the time being here on the forum, I've learned that the Progress springs are good springs.
Clean drop, goo handling. I may be wrong though.

I'd wrap in 205/45/17, brand your choice.
That size will keep the stock diameters.
many people run 215/45/17 which is like less than half an inch bigger in diameter.

As a DD I like the falken 912's.
Theyre affordable, and they last.
A few tire guys I know, say that the 912's are the only Falkens they see come back, lasting to their 50k-60k mile warranty.
They're are a ton of other tires out there though.

c_law23
06-27-2011, 02:12 PM
Good deal thank you very much. I've read the same thing on here about progress springs. I've been a member for awhile but rarely post as I spend most of my time scouring old threads for info but wanted to be sure this is the way to go size wise. So stock is a +25 or so or am I looking at this incorrectly? (Wheel noob completely other than what I've read)

jdisback
06-27-2011, 04:02 PM
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn171/jd-isback/Screenshot2011-06-27at44421PM.png

PatrickJamesYu
06-27-2011, 07:29 PM
Good deal thank you very much. I've read the same thing on here about progress springs. I've been a member for awhile but rarely post as I spend most of my time scouring old threads for info but wanted to be sure this is the way to go size wise. So stock is a +25 or so or am I looking at this incorrectly? (Wheel noob completely other than what I've read)

Other way, stock is 10mm less poke, more sunk.
So stock is +45 for the 02-03 model
I think the 04-05 is the same.

It's always best to get the exact fitment you want, first, rather than trial and error
But it's the only way to learn

ep3jd
06-27-2011, 07:30 PM
Hello favorite thread :msmile:




http://tapatalk.com/mu/45702d84-3cab-dac7.jpg

Det.JohnKimble
06-27-2011, 09:44 PM
Oh you stancy, huh.

ep3jd
06-27-2011, 09:49 PM
http://tapatalk.com/mu/45702d84-5d5c-9b5d.jpg

c_law23
06-28-2011, 08:09 AM
Other way, stock is 10mm less poke, more sunk.
So stock is +45 for the 02-03 model
I think the 04-05 is the same.

It's always best to get the exact fitment you want, first, rather than trial and error
But it's the only way to learn

Ah, I see. Thanks again.

cole7117
07-03-2011, 09:12 AM
What would be the best tire size for 16" konig lightning rims and at stock height? 205/50/16?

PatrickJamesYu
07-04-2011, 03:56 PM
What would be the best tire size for 16" konig lightning rims and at stock height? 205/50/16?

I believe that is stock so yeah I'd do that
Or 195/50/16
Just cause I think that size is a tiny bit easier to come by.

cole7117
07-05-2011, 01:14 PM
I believe that is stock so yeah I'd do that
Or 195/50/16
Just cause I think that size is a tiny bit easier to come by.

Yeah like what would be the best lower profile tire, that would not screw up my speedometer alot?

PatrickJamesYu
07-05-2011, 01:43 PM
Yeah like what would be the best lower profile tire, that would not screw up my speedometer alot?
ehh I don't know it's your personal preference.

I see 205/50/16's on our cars, and it looks clean, but most of them are dropped.
If I was stock, or even dropped, I'd do 205/50 or 195/50.
the 195/50 will be slightly more low pro.

A lot of stretched fitment people, including myself, run 205/45/16.
pretty damn low pro in my opinion.
205/45 on a 17 inch rim is stock.

cole7117
07-05-2011, 09:05 PM
ehh I don't know it's your personal preference.

I see 205/50/16's on our cars, and it looks clean, but most of them are dropped.
If I was stock, or even dropped, I'd do 205/50 or 195/50.
the 195/50 will be slightly more low pro.

A lot of stretched fitment people, including myself, run 205/45/16.
pretty damn low pro in my opinion.
205/45 on a 17 inch rim is stock.

Alright cause yeah I am looking for a lower profile look but don't think I want any ridiculous stretching either, I don't really understand how tire sizes work ha.

PatrickJamesYu
07-05-2011, 09:09 PM
okay I'll try to explain
theres 3 numbers
xxx/xx/xx
The first one is how wide the tire is.
The 2nd is the profile, but is the percentage of the first one.
Thats means a 195/50 is a lower profile than a 205/50.
And the last number is the rim size.

cole7117
07-05-2011, 09:32 PM
okay I'll try to explain
theres 3 numbers
xxx/xx/xx
The first one is how wide the tire is.
The 2nd is the profile, but is the percentage of the first one.
Thats means a 195/50 is a lower profile than a 205/50.
And the last number is the rim size.

Ok well yeah I guess I understand that part lol didnt really phrase this right I mean how do I know if the tire will be stretching or not?

PatrickJamesYu
07-05-2011, 09:50 PM
Ok well yeah I guess I understand that part lol didnt really phrase this right I mean how do I know if the tire will be stretching or not?
Well how wide is your rim?

I've seen 185/55/16 on a 7" wide rim. far from stretch.
If you google it, i believe there is a gallery containing stretch fitments.

cole7117
07-05-2011, 09:56 PM
Well how wide is your rim?

I've seen 185/55/16 on a 7" wide rim. far from stretch.
If you google it, i believe there is a gallery containing stretch fitments.

The rims I want are 16x7, Konig Lightning.

PatrickJamesYu
07-06-2011, 12:31 PM
The rims I want are 16x7, Konig Lightning.
I'd keep it stockish as much as possible.
195/50/16 is enough low pro in my opinion.
Especially if you're stock height.
The lower profile tire you go, the more fender/wheel gap you'll have which looks blehh in my opinion.

cole7117
07-06-2011, 09:10 PM
I'd keep it stockish as much as possible.
195/50/16 is enough low pro in my opinion.
Especially if you're stock height.
The lower profile tire you go, the more fender/wheel gap you'll have which looks blehh in my opinion.

Yeah like I am still really debating between, 195/50/60, 205/45/16, 205/50/16.

PatrickJamesYu
07-06-2011, 11:58 PM
Yeah like I am still really debating between, 195/50/60, 205/45/16, 205/50/16.
The 205/45 is too undersized in my opinion.
Unless you want to slammm your car, dont get it
Just my opinion though.

I say the 195/50 if low pro is what you're aiming for.

bearcat91
07-07-2011, 09:36 PM
Just got my first set of wheels...now what rubber? They're 17x7 and I'm looking for an all season tire or possibly summer tires if I find some snow tires for my stockies...so what's a good tire and a good size? Ill be dropped about 1.8inches soon as well. Thanks

PatrickJamesYu
07-07-2011, 10:04 PM
Just got my first set of wheels...now what rubber? They're 17x7 and I'm looking for an all season tire or possibly summer tires if I find some snow tires for my stockies...so what's a good tire and a good size? Ill be dropped about 1.8inches soon as well. Thanks

205/45/17 is stock
Many people, including my self, run 215/45/17.

As far as specific brands, I got nothing.
I think the Falken 912's are great for the price.
Affordable, and they last decently long.

bearcat91
07-08-2011, 02:35 PM
Right now there are 205/40 on them but they're junk, and they look to be close in size...is the oem siize diff for 4lug and 5lug?

powdbyrice
07-08-2011, 05:37 PM
yes, 15's w/195s vs 16's w/205s. HFP got 17's.

1fasthb
07-09-2011, 12:28 AM
http://www.d-town.us/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10026&sid=7b576f387ec5790eb7618794c4e8deff

what u guys think of these wheels? they look sexy on that car, wondering wat they would look like on are's and if that tire size could work :D prolly not ep's arent fitment machines :( lol

PatrickJamesYu
07-09-2011, 12:31 AM
http://www.d-town.us/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10026&sid=7b576f387ec5790eb7618794c4e8deff

what u guys think of these wheels? they look sexy on that car, wondering wat they would look like on are's and if that tire size could work :D prolly not ep's arent fitment machines :( lol

I think the wheels themselves are sweet
and the idea of having them sized quarter of an inch wider is dope for the stancer/ tire stretcher..
As if we needed more stretch than we can already pull off.. haha

like every wheel out there, I think if you can execute the stance right, we'd love it. ( some of us, I don't speak for everyone)

ep3jd
07-09-2011, 05:30 AM
I actually hate those wheels. A lot of local 8th gen kids run those and I'm just not into them.

1fasthb
07-09-2011, 09:14 AM
i think they just get some bad rep b/c they look like mb battle wheels, but personaly i havent seen these wheel in this size or in the 18's version on many hondas at all yet

powdbyrice
07-09-2011, 09:06 PM
http://i54.tinypic.com/2djscug.jpg

bearcat91
07-10-2011, 04:06 AM
Started tire shopping for my new wheels for various size tires, 205/45, 215/45, and 205/40...and the tires for 205/40 are WAY cheaper! So how off will my speedo be with these? Also are there any other down falls with this tires size? Wheels are 17x7 thanks

powdbyrice
07-11-2011, 12:23 AM
well, the sidewalls will be shorter, so you'll have less protection when you hit a pothole...

PatrickJamesYu
07-11-2011, 12:32 AM
If tire fitment is new to you, I fully recommend sticking to stock ratio's.
When you start stretching and over sizing and under sizing tires, I think you really need to know what you're doing, and/or be committed to it.
Maybe go used tires?
I mean it'd cut the cost, and it's safer as far as buying the wrong size.
You save money in the chance the tires are too small/big for your liking.
AND you can resell them and the value essentially wont go down

Used tires, are 'used tires' when you use them, value doesn't change.
New tires, however when used, become 'used tires' which means the value of them drop significantly.

bearcat91
07-11-2011, 04:15 AM
What do you mean by stock ratio? Since its a 17x7 rim 205 should fit fine then as far as hieght my stock rims and tires (195/60 15) are 24.2 in tall.

205/40 17 is 21:46 in tall
205/45 17 is 24:26 in tall
Then there is 215/45 17 is 24.6 in tall (diiff width so I'm un sure on fittment but others runs it)

So closest to stock as far as hieght is 205/45. Since my drop will be moterate 1.8ish I'm assuming they will fit correct? And the only down fall with the 205/40 is protection and an off speedo right?

bearcat91
07-11-2011, 04:21 AM
205/45/17 is stock
Many people, including my self, run 215/45/17.

As far as specific brands, I got nothing.
I think the Falken 912's are great for the price.
Affordable, and they last decently long.

Wow sorry, looong days at workk and little sleep! Forgot about this...

PatrickJamesYu
07-11-2011, 09:13 AM
What do you mean by stock ratio? Since its a 17x7 rim 205 should fit fine then as far as hieght my stock rims and tires (195/60 15) are 24.2 in tall.

205/40 17 is 21:46 in tall
205/45 17 is 24:26 in tall
Then there is 215/45 17 is 24.6 in tall (diiff width so I'm un sure on fittment but others runs it)

So closest to stock as far as hieght is 205/45. Since my drop will be moterate 1.8ish I'm assuming they will fit correct? And the only down fall with the 205/40 is protection and an off speedo right?

Yeah 205/45/17 is stock.
And it should fit correctly, but that depends on your personal interpretation of "fit".
Google HellaFlush. If you think those car's wheels fit, that you believe anything fits.

And as far as downfall, that's personal interpretation too.
I believe the lower the profile tire, the worse milage rating it has.
But protection, and you may have a more uncomfortable ride. Less cushion.
And more wheel gap, if you even consider that a downfall.

Check Onlinetires.com
They seem to have the best prices.
Maybe even with shipping, they may beat your local tire shop prices. Don't know though.

powdbyrice
07-11-2011, 12:30 PM
I believe the lower the profile tire, the worse milage rating it has.


wat?

PatrickJamesYu
07-11-2011, 01:28 PM
wat?
I've heard from a few tire guys that low pro's have a shorter life span.
I don't have first hand experience about this though.

godzilapimpinn
07-18-2011, 06:16 PM
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g388/jdm05ep3/122.jpg

17x9 workcr +28 205/40/falken hoping to get lined up tommrow

Pandamanda22
07-18-2011, 08:32 PM
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g388/jdm05ep3/122.jpg

17x9 workcr +28 205/40/falken hoping to get lined up tommrow

Looks good in the pic looks awesome in person. good stuff

powdbyrice
07-18-2011, 10:23 PM
:shakehead::nuts::doh:

godzilapimpinn
07-18-2011, 10:29 PM
pow!! just for looks

edit cute dog got the same one!!

powdbyrice
07-18-2011, 10:35 PM
i think it would look better with more tire. the wheels themselves look hot.

godzilapimpinn
07-18-2011, 10:40 PM
yah i know im just going to run this setup untill the tires done..thanks rims were a bit pricy but its not a dd so i dont mind... i will try to post more pics tommrow when it sits just right!!

Aaron_in_MO
07-23-2011, 03:20 PM
Okay, I've found something I like in a 16x7, 42mm offset. I plan on doing about a 1-1.5" drop ('02 model, all stock). What's the widest tire I can fit without issues? I have my heart set on a 225 width, but nothing set in stone yet.

If I have to roll the fenders I will, but I'd prefer to avoid it.

.colin
07-23-2011, 08:50 PM
You'll be fine with a 225.

SHG_EasyE
07-24-2011, 08:58 AM
Yup, 225 is good to go :)

I think youll have more tire on your 16x7 than that RSX has on 9's lol

SHG_EasyE
07-24-2011, 08:59 AM
THIS is flush. I dont understand why you need rubber bands to run a flush fitment :mrolleyes:

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t131/sohonda_garage/P1090897.jpg

27rocks
07-24-2011, 12:18 PM
^^^^^:amen:

EP3CHRiS
07-24-2011, 03:42 PM
17x7 +30 offset wrapped on 235 45's all around 4 bolt

rolled fenders?? -probably
spacers??
camber???

will not be sitting slammed, but will be somewhat on a drop......

any help??

SHG_EasyE
07-24-2011, 03:57 PM
235's on a 7"? Id reccomend 225's. Better steering feedback and better overall feedback and stability at the limit. Those things are gonna be bulging like baloons.

PatrickJamesYu
07-24-2011, 04:49 PM
17x7 +30 offset wrapped on 235 45's all around 4 bolt

rolled fenders?? -probably
spacers??
camber???

will not be sitting slammed, but will be somewhat on a drop......

any help??
I agree with SHG
I'd do 225.

are you on springs or coils?
It's hard to determine with springs, cause the height isn't adjustable.
I think you CAN run stock camber specs, and drop and be pretty flush

I recommend rolling your fenders no matter what though
at least the rear.

.colin
07-24-2011, 04:55 PM
Looking proper easye

RHDmeatwagon
07-25-2011, 11:01 AM
I am looking into getting a set of Algernon Intelesses. I was gonna have a staggered set-up.

17x8 +35
17x9 +35

These wont be daily driven. I just really love the wheels found a set for the right price and would love to have them for the day I go to something rwd (hopefully sooner than later)



At the moment I have extended studs and run ~6-7 mm spacers.
My quarters are slightly rolled could be done more if need be.
I am on D2 full coilovers w/the front camber adjuster and ingalls rear adjuster.
Would like it to sit around its current ride height. Maybe 1 finger gap in rear and not much up front
I am not opposed to a slight stretch on my tires. no less than 215 and that is still pushing it for me.



I am not looking to see if you hate staggered set-ups on fwd or any of that.
Just want to see what you guys have experience making it work tire size and what not

Thankss

RHDmeatwagon
07-26-2011, 06:49 AM
no one? just need some help on tire size

POOPTOOTH
07-26-2011, 07:09 AM
I am looking into getting a set of Algernon Intelesses. I was gonna have a staggered set-up.

17x8 +35
17x9 +35

These wont be daily driven. I just really love the wheels found a set for the right price and would love to have them for the day I go to something rwd (hopefully sooner than later)



At the moment I have extended studs and run ~6-7 mm spacers.
My quarters are slightly rolled could be done more if need be.
I am on D2 full coilovers w/the front camber adjuster and ingalls rear adjuster.
Would like it to sit around its current ride height. Maybe 1 finger gap in rear and not much up front
I am not opposed to a slight stretch on my tires. no less than 215 and that is still pushing it for me.



I am not looking to see if you hate staggered set-ups on fwd or any of that.
Just want to see what you guys have experience making it work tire size and what not

Thankss

Take the spacers off, run the 9" up front with a 235/40 all around and call it a day. Should look good and beefy.

EP3CHRiS
07-26-2011, 01:53 PM
anyone??

EP3CHRiS
07-26-2011, 01:57 PM
235's on a 7"? Id reccomend 225's. Better steering feedback and better overall feedback and stability at the limit. Those things are gonna be bulging like baloons.


I agree with SHG
I'd do 225.

are you on springs or coils?
It's hard to determine with springs, cause the height isn't adjustable.
I think you CAN run stock camber specs, and drop and be pretty flush

I recommend rolling your fenders no matter what though
at least the rear.

so run a 225 instead of a 235?? gotcha...what about my side wall?? running a 45 would be ok, or maybe something smaller??

EDU
07-26-2011, 04:43 PM
so run a 225 instead of a 235?? gotcha...what about my side wall?? running a 45 would be ok, or maybe something smaller??

im running 225 45 17's i had to roll my fenders on the rears cuz i was rubing like a mofoca...other than that no problems, i like the look much better now, sorry no close up pics but this will give you an idea. im lowered on skunk2 springs
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f226/EDU_077/eduside.jpg

SHG_EasyE
07-26-2011, 04:45 PM
so run a 225 instead of a 235?? gotcha...what about my side wall?? running a 45 would be ok, or maybe something smaller??

I think you would be golden with a 225/45. What type of tires are you looking at? different manufacturers and tire models have different dimensions. Usually the higher performance the tire, the beefier it will be in any given size.

Here is a picture of my 17x7.5 with a 225/45 Dunlop Z1 (in the foreground)

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t131/sohonda_garage/P1090594.jpg

dbazan
07-27-2011, 12:12 AM
alright you guys im having a hard time picking out a new set of wheels!!!
im wanting to go with xxr 501's 16x8 +15 or esm 16x9 0 offset....
i would like some advice on wat would be better!!!
my plan is to powder coat them purple with a polished lip and this color is making it harder for me!!!

PatrickJamesYu
07-27-2011, 12:44 AM
alright you guys im having a hard time picking out a new set of wheels!!!
im wanting to go with xxr 501's 16x8 +15 or esm 16x9 0 offset....
i would like some advice on wat would be better!!!
my plan is to powder coat them purple with a polished lip and this color is making it harder for me!!!

Either will work, it just depends on how you execute it.
height, tires, alignment specs.

I personally recommend the 16x8 +15.
I'd run a 195/50/16 tire.
It's a nice stretch, you can run about -4 camber, and do the HellaFlush thing pretty nice.

16x9 +0 is rather extreme for our cars in my opinion.
But if you execute it right, I'm sure you will get lovers and haters, just like any other fitment.

EP3CHRiS
07-31-2011, 01:43 PM
im running 225 45 17's i had to roll my fenders on the rears cuz i was rubing like a mofoca...other than that no problems, i like the look much better now, sorry no close up pics but this will give you an idea. im lowered on skunk2 springs
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f226/EDU_077/eduside.jpg


I think you would be golden with a 225/45. What type of tires are you looking at? different manufacturers and tire models have different dimensions. Usually the higher performance the tire, the beefier it will be in any given size.

Here is a picture of my 17x7.5 with a 225/45 Dunlop Z1 (in the foreground)

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t131/sohonda_garage/P1090594.jpg



Great, thanks for the pictures fella's, i think i should be perfect with a 225/45....thanks for the help

gamma6
07-31-2011, 02:24 PM
alright you guys im having a hard time picking out a new set of wheels!!!
im wanting to go with xxr 501's 16x8 +15 or esm 16x9 0 offset....
i would like some advice on wat would be better!!!
my plan is to powder coat them purple with a polished lip and this color is making it harder for me!!!
16x9 is insane, i had a hard time fitting my 16x8 and they still rub with -4.5* camber in the rear now add another inch on that and ull be driving on like 50% of the tire on some insane camber

Aaron_in_MO
07-31-2011, 06:28 PM
I forgot I had these two web pages sitting on my server. Use either one to compare tire heights:

http://sumpmrother.com/tires.php
http://sumpmrother.com/tireheights.html

They won't help determine offset or anything else, just overall heights, so you can compare what you want with stock sizes.

SHG_EasyE
08-01-2011, 06:41 PM
Great, thanks for the pictures fella's, i think i should be perfect with a 225/45....thanks for the help

Glad I could help, post some pics when you put them on!

MadLorEP3
08-08-2011, 03:00 PM
Hey Hatchers

We were unable to install the DC5 Front LCAs on my ep
This was needed since I have 17x8.5+45 on 255/40/17 azenis and it would have pushed out the hub 15mm to change the offset from +45 to +30. So next option is 15 mm spacers. Do you guys know if there is a difference in the way your offset is changed by using the DC5 Front LCA's vs the spacers? I'm not talking about the amount but more about the location of the where the "push" is coming from. As the spacer is directly on the hub and pushes the entire wheel out from the center vs the LCA's which I think pushes the wheels out from a lower position. Not sure if I'm making sense here.

Pic for reference. It seems that at this spec the tires are already way past the fenders. I'm thinking if I add 15mm spacers it would pass the fenders even more. But if I don't add spacers then we might be hitting the inside. I have the J's fenders that coming in a couple of months but for Nisei this saturday I wanted to use the oem fenders in the meantime. Any tips on how to make this work.
http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww304/MadLorGLK/IMAG1191.jpg

PatrickJamesYu
08-08-2011, 03:36 PM
@madlorep3
You said it MIGHT hit the inside

I think the only way to know if it will work is to wait and try it :/
If it fits that's great, if not hopefully you could use less than 15mm
especially if you're worried about how far past the fender it will go

88crx
08-08-2011, 03:45 PM
THIS is flush. I dont understand why you need rubber bands to run a flush fitment :mrolleyes:



Ride height plays a huge factor!

I don't think I've posted my new set up in here yet but 17x8.5+30 on 215/40/17 RT-615's (pretty beefy) at -2.1 camber just barely clears inside the wheel well at full lock and just clears the stock fenders and fender liners at my ride height. I've checked clearance with a go pro camera and it's withing mm's of rubbing. Hell, the front tucks rim coming down driveways and curbs. Unless you roll (or pull the fronts) and remove or modify the fender liners you can't go any wider. I'm sure someone will argue this but take it for what it's worth.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/88crx/IMG_5248-copy2.jpg?t=1312842937

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/88crx/ep3_volks_02.jpg?t=1312842937

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/88crx/67652723.jpg?t=1312843442

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/88crx/16683eb6.jpg?t=1312843440

For reference this was at 0.0 camber:
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/88crx/se37k_03.jpg?t=1312842940

MadLorEP3
08-08-2011, 03:58 PM
@madlorep3
You said it MIGHT hit the inside

I think the only way to know if it will work is to wait and try it :/
If it fits that's great, if not hopefully you could use less than 15mm
especially if you're worried about how far past the fender it will go

Ok so it is definitely rubbing. Which we already suspected would happen.
Here is my setup compared to SHGEAZY

Mine: 255 azenis 615k section wdith 10.3" vs. EAZY: 245 dunlop z1 section width of 9.8"
So my azenis is 0.5" (13 mm wider).

EAZY: has 17 x 9 + 35 but with dc5 front LCAs (15mm) and 4 mm spacers SO offset becomes +16
Mine: 17x8.5 +45 planning on getting 15 mm spacers for now since unable to install dc5r front LCA so I will be at +30

Wheel offset calculator says I have 4 mm less inner clearance and 16mm retraction from the outer fender.
My tires are about 13 mm wider but I have 16mm more room from the outer fender then my tires should sit at just about the same place from the fender as his setup? I should be about 3 mm more sunken in even with my 255 tires.

I'm lost on this and do not think I am getting it LOL...

EDIT: I think the numbers above might be wrong...they confuse the shit out of me

MadLorEP3
08-08-2011, 04:04 PM
Hey Ryan

so you have 17x8.5+30 on 215
I know that if I get 15 mm spacers I wil be at 17x8.5+30 as well on 255
I'm not sure why this is too complicated for me but if you had 255's on your current setup what would you have to do to not have too muchpoke. Once J's gets here obviously I'll say bye bye to poke. But for now....
My front fenders are rolled or flattened. I don't have the fender liners anymore as well.

MadLorEP3
08-08-2011, 04:16 PM
Can anyone clarify which bore size we have
i have an 04
I know its been mentioned here that we have 64.1 and someone else said 67.1
the 64.1 sounds about right but just need conformation

MadLorEP3
08-08-2011, 04:22 PM
I'm thinking about getting these

15 mm project kics spacers
http://www.evasivemotorsports.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=EM&Product_Code=KICS-5115W1

64mm hub centric rings
http://www.evasivemotorsports.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=EM&Product_Code=W1564


This might be better and cheaper too since its already hub centric
http://www.kingmotorsports.com/p-1730-hr-wheel-spacers.aspx


The wheels below for reference...So the studs on the spacers will be going through are the larger holes on my wheel below. And the oem studs coming off the hub (Am I using the right term?) will be going into the holes on the spacers. What I'm not getting is where on my wheel below will the oem studs go through after they go pass the holes on the spacers. Is is the smaller hole on my wheels below? Anyone know if they will be sticking out so it will look like I have 10 lugs?

Sorry if I'm not explaining myself well.
http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww304/MadLorGLK/photo.jpg






EDIT: If only we were able to install the damn dc5 front LCA then I wouldnt have this headache LOL...

88crx
08-08-2011, 04:57 PM
With rolled fender you might stand a chance. Just max out the camber plates.

As for the spacers and your stock wheel studs they won't stick out those holes in the wheels. There should be a cavity on the backside of the wheel for the stock studs to sit in.

MadLorEP3
08-08-2011, 05:02 PM
With rolled fender you might stand a chance. Just max out the camber plates.

As for the spacers and your stock wheel studs they won't stick out those holes in the wheels. There should be a cavity on the backside of the wheel for the stock studs to sit in.

ok I just placed an order with king motorsports
the sad part is that I will sell these spacers after the weekend and loose money for sure LOL
Then when I have time figure out how to make the dc5r flcas fit....

MadLorEP3
08-08-2011, 05:22 PM
Just purchased my H&R 15mm hub centric (64 mm) spacers with studs from Chuck at showstoppersusa and he promised that it will get to me in 2 days...he only charged $5 for shipping. Not bad...$120 total...

PatrickJamesYu
08-09-2011, 12:35 AM
I got so confused with those numbers haha.
So you got it sorta figured out?

Wait so the hub on the 04-05 is 64?
My 03 is 56.1.

I'm confused with that spacer question though...
The spacer bolts onto the hub on the car, than you bolt the wheel to the spacer
You should have any of the spacer protruding through to the front of the wheel at all.

MadLorEP3
08-09-2011, 12:44 AM
I got so confused with those numbers haha.
So you got it sorta figured out?

Wait so the hub on the 04-05 is 64?
My 03 is 56.1.

I'm confused with that spacer question though...
The spacer bolts onto the hub on the car, than you bolt the wheel to the spacer
You should have any of the spacer protruding through to the front of the wheel at all.

yeah from what I was reading its 64.1 on the 04-05
and the spacers i bought which are the H&R 15mm hub centric comes with studs so that I wouldn't have to buy extended studs. So the oem studs from the ep's hub will go into the spacers then the studs on the spacers itself is what the wheels will bolt onto. I think thats how it works. But I could be wrong.

PatrickJamesYu
08-09-2011, 12:51 AM
yeah from what I was reading its 64.1 on the 04-05
and the spacers i bought which are the H&R 15mm hub centric comes with studs so that I wouldn't have to buy extended studs. So the oem studs from the ep's hub will go into the spacers then the studs on the spacers itself is what the wheels will bolt onto. I think thats how it works. But I could be wrong.

Thats sounds right what yo said about the spacers
I don't know why/how it would seem like there is 10 lug nuts or whatever, like stated in your previous post
But it should be undetectable.


255 tires holy cow..
haha
I thought 245 was pushing it too..

MadLorEP3
08-09-2011, 01:03 AM
Thats sounds right what yo said about the spacers
I don't know why/how it would seem like there is 10 lug nuts or whatever, like stated in your previous post
But it should be undetectable.


255 tires holy cow..
haha
I thought 245 was pushing it too..

I know...I can never be satisfied with the status quo and always wanna push the envelope...dat can be a bad thing in terms of the time it takes to make it right. But we'll see

EDIT: yeah guess I was trippin on that 10 lugs statement LOL

MadLorEP3
08-09-2011, 11:57 AM
I ended up getting ichiba spacers since they already had the studs
instead of the H&R which didnt at 15mm

yyi
08-09-2011, 01:43 PM
Question: 215/50/17 +45 on stock height. It will fit just fine right?

MadLorEP3
08-09-2011, 01:50 PM
Question: 215/50/17 +45 on stock height. It will fit just fine right?

I think you're good to go brotha
wats the width?

PatrickJamesYu
08-09-2011, 01:58 PM
Question: 215/50/17 +45 on stock height. It will fit just fine right?
50 ratio?
pretty tall especially on a 17" rim.

yyi
08-09-2011, 02:04 PM
I think you're good to go brotha
wats the width?

thanks, and what do you mean? 17x7?


50 ratio?
pretty tall especially on a 17" rim.

yeah it is, but the 50 aspect ratio was $18 cheaper than 45 tires each for some reason, multiplied by 4 it adds up. So i thought i'd get those if i would have no problems fitting them in.

MadLorEP3
08-09-2011, 02:04 PM
50 ratio?
pretty tall especially on a 17" rim.

haha thats a good point...

yyi
08-09-2011, 02:15 PM
I did one of those online calculations, and going from 205/55/16 to 215/50/17 i'm going from 24.9" diameter to 25.5 diameter. I should be okay right? no rubbing or any of that nonsense? I just want to confirm before i put my money down.

PatrickJamesYu
08-09-2011, 02:22 PM
are you dropped or anything?

what about stock ratios?
205/45/17?

tire prices always go up
But check out Onlinetires.com
They have the best prices.
Even after shipping their prices are competitive with local shops.
They have signed with more brands than any 'local' tire shop I've seen.

yyi
08-09-2011, 02:27 PM
Stock height, I will look there and shop around a little bit more, Thanks!

88crx
08-09-2011, 03:45 PM
Stock JDM tire size is 215/40/17. Pretty sure the stock USDM tire size converts from 16's into 215/45/17's, could be mistaken though.

215/50/17 are pretty monster-tire-ish. I'd fork over the extra $80 for a 215/45/17.

powdbyrice
08-09-2011, 06:08 PM
I did one of those online calculations, and going from 205/55/16 to 215/50/17 i'm going from 24.9" diameter to 25.5 diameter. I should be okay right? no rubbing or any of that nonsense? I just want to confirm before i put my money down.

rubbing isnt the issue. speedometer reading is.

yyi
08-10-2011, 04:30 PM
rubbing isnt the issue. speedometer reading is.

that isn't an issue with me. but i think i'm going to take the advice and spend a bit more for the appropriate tire.
thanks everyone!

PatrickJamesYu
08-10-2011, 10:19 PM
that isn't an issue with me. but i think i'm going to take the advice and spend a bit more for the appropriate tire.
thanks everyone!

I believe brake failure is involved with over sizing and under sizing tires.

Just sayin'

Goodluck on finding a deal.

I've bought a set of tires used for like $10 each.
I was quite happy with the purchase.

powdbyrice
08-10-2011, 10:26 PM
in reality, a half inch in diameter isn't going to matter that much

what tires are you considering?

Blah1219
08-10-2011, 10:56 PM
I'm running 16x7 +45 with Megan full coilovers. I'm going from 205/45/16 to 225/50/16. Am I going to need to roll my fenders to make them fit? I'm going with falken 452.

PatrickJamesYu
08-11-2011, 02:27 AM
I don't think you'd need to

But it MIGHT be pushing it in the rear, depending on your drop

PatrickJamesYu
08-11-2011, 03:46 PM
stretch on a 7.5" wide rim?

nmysiismyn
08-11-2011, 04:23 PM
I'm running 16x7 +45 with Megan full coilovers. I'm going from 205/45/16 to 225/50/16. Am I going to need to roll my fenders to make them fit? I'm going with falken 452.

225/50/16???
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh172/sexi0102/gotbeef.jpg

PatrickJamesYu
08-11-2011, 04:56 PM
225/50/16???
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh172/sexi0102/gotbeef.jpg

Is that your band back in the day, tommy?

nmysiismyn
08-11-2011, 06:18 PM
Is that your band back in the day, tommy?

Nah, we still throwin' it down!

StevieBush
08-12-2011, 04:37 PM
I had my racelands bottomed out in the front and a little over halfway down in the rear and I bought some 16x8 wheels with a zero offset and of course I had to raise it..any suggestions on what camber setting I should go for to get the flush look?

PatrickJamesYu
08-12-2011, 07:30 PM
I had my racelands bottomed out in the front and a little over halfway down in the rear and I bought some 16x8 wheels with a zero offset and of course I had to raise it..any suggestions on what camber setting I should go for to get the flush look?
what tire size you running?

-4 front, and -6 rear I think looks cool.
I don't like it when the rear is a whole lot more than the front.

maybe -3 and -5 if you don't want to run too much camber.

Blah1219
08-13-2011, 10:37 AM
225/50/16???
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh172/sexi0102/gotbeef.jpg

My rotas came with 205/40/16 then I tried out 205/45/16 I just didn't like the rubber band look. I want to change my stance, and it should ride a lot better. Coilovers already make the ride harsh enough.

nmysiismyn
08-13-2011, 03:21 PM
My rotas came with 205/40/16 then I tried out 205/45/16 I just didn't like the rubber band look. I want to change my stance, and it should ride a lot better. Coilovers already make the ride harsh enough.

Ohhh.. Big difference between 225/50 and 205/50.. Typo?
I'm running 205/50 on my 16x7 +37's.. LOVE 'EM!

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz228/Tommy_Castroreale/EPHatch/th_IMAG1153800h.jpg (http://s830.photobucket.com/albums/zz228/Tommy_Castroreale/EPHatch/?action=view&current=IMAG1153800h.jpg)

Blah1219
08-13-2011, 06:45 PM
Ohhh.. Big difference between 225/50 and 205/50.. Typo?
I'm running 205/50 on my 16x7 +37's.. LOVE 'EM!

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz228/Tommy_Castroreale/EPHatch/th_IMAG1153800h.jpg (http://s830.photobucket.com/albums/zz228/Tommy_Castroreale/EPHatch/?action=view&current=IMAG1153800h.jpg)

Not a typo at all. I'm just in the mood for a change up. I'm in the process of rebuilding my engine. I want a smooth ride and great launches. Spend the money while I got it.

PatrickJamesYu
08-15-2011, 08:52 PM
I fit 18x10 +45's on an s2k today
OMG too much stance haha

powdbyrice
08-15-2011, 11:02 PM
Pix or it didn't happen. you know that

PatrickJamesYu
08-16-2011, 12:13 PM
Pix or it didn't happen. you know that
Ahh you caught me
I lied :(



http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/z369/patrickjamesyu/Tuckers%20AP1%20S2000/7.png
http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/z369/patrickjamesyu/Tuckers%20AP1%20S2000/6.png
http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/z369/patrickjamesyu/Tuckers%20AP1%20S2000/5.png
http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/z369/patrickjamesyu/Tuckers%20AP1%20S2000/4.png
http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/z369/patrickjamesyu/Tuckers%20AP1%20S2000/3.png
http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/z369/patrickjamesyu/Tuckers%20AP1%20S2000/2.png
http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/z369/patrickjamesyu/Tuckers%20AP1%20S2000/1.png
18x10 +25 non-staggered


effer! :D

Blah1219
08-16-2011, 02:39 PM
What's the size of those tires? I want to put those on my ep. Haha

PatrickJamesYu
08-16-2011, 02:57 PM
What's the size of those tires? I want to put those on my ep. Haha
225/35/18 those drift Federals
595's I believe.

Blah1219
08-16-2011, 04:18 PM
They look so much more wider in the picture. I was thinking like 255s.

PatrickJamesYu
08-16-2011, 04:40 PM
They look so much more wider in the picture. I was thinking like 255s.
nah these things are soo stretched
you can see bead haha so dangerous..
A 255 would be beast on an ep.

nmysiismyn
08-16-2011, 04:44 PM
Pix or it didn't happen. you know that


Ahh you caught me...

In that case, I guess the July RMM didn't really happen. http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz228/Tommy_Castroreale/Emotes/Small%20Emotes/a224391d.gif

PatrickJamesYu
08-16-2011, 04:47 PM
In that case, I guess the July RMM didn't really happen. http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz228/Tommy_Castroreale/Emotes/Small%20Emotes/a224391d.gif
I know I need to get on that.
This shoot I did for this s2k was just important as we needed to send them in within a certain time limit.

I'll get your pics up I promise

nmysiismyn
08-16-2011, 04:50 PM
I know I need to get on that.
This shoot I did for this s2k was just important as we needed to send them in within a certain time limit.

I'll get your pics up I promise

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz228/Tommy_Castroreale/EPHatch/nmysiismynlikesthis.png

27rocks
08-16-2011, 07:50 PM
That s2k looks like shit. The wheels don't fit even in hellaflush standards.

nmysiismyn
08-16-2011, 08:39 PM
That s2k looks like shit. The wheels don't fit even in hellaflush standards.

You feel better? :mrolleyes:

powdbyrice
08-16-2011, 08:46 PM
That s2k looks like shit. The wheels don't fit even in hellaflush standards.
LOLOLOL Troof.

nmysiismyn
08-16-2011, 09:18 PM
LOLOLOL Troof.

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz228/Tommy_Castroreale/EPHatch/nmysiismynlikesthis_doesnot.jpg

Haters! :gheywa:

NEO_FOLLOWER2
08-16-2011, 09:40 PM
That s2k looks like shit. The wheels don't fit even in hellaflush standards.

BUUUURRRNN!!!

but true

that looks like crap:mrolleyes:

nmysiismyn
08-16-2011, 09:57 PM
BUUUURRRNN!!!

but true

that looks like crap:mrolleyes:

Maybe the dude's got big plans like pulling fenders and warping his front bumper to line up or adding some flares. :mangel:

:tehe:
I'm all for truth, but there's a broad line between being truthful and being a _____.

Ju'sayin'...

:stophating:

:tehehyper:

nmysiismyn
08-16-2011, 10:13 PM
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w270/coronaftw/lolcat.jpg

PatrickJamesYu
08-16-2011, 11:12 PM
correction, it's 18x10 +25
And I actually agree haha
i don't like it it's too much poke, not enough tuck.
But look at the photo's! decent for an amateur who doesn't shoot cars? :P

haha
It's a bummer cause he's totally in love with it
We just went to a meet and he thought he was going to get all this attention.
Nope.

MadLorEP3
08-16-2011, 11:32 PM
We just went to a meet and he thought he was going to get all this attention.
Nope.

lmao....sad for the dude tho...just tell him to keep trying to make his shit better and do more research so that he can fit those wheels on his s2k a little better...

MadLorEP3
08-16-2011, 11:33 PM
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w270/coronaftw/lolcat.jpg

dood get your fucking cat out of there bro...u want me to call the fire dept...where r u finding all these crazy ass pix?

27rocks
08-17-2011, 06:57 AM
Maybe the dude's got big plans like pulling fenders and warping his front bumper to line up or adding some flares. :mangel:

:tehe:
I'm all for truth, but there's a broad line between being truthful and being a _____.

Ju'sayin'...

:stophating:

:tehehyper:Yeah but sometimes being honest really opens up peoples eyes. The car is a great car, great wheels and great pic taking, but the wheels just simply don't fit. And by stretching the crap out of the tires to "try" to have it not rub just makes the owner look like hes trying to hard. I'm no hater but stating the obvious i can't help lol. Less wheel and a little bit higher offset and it would look good even with slightly stretched tires.
It reminds me of this Toyota T100 truck i saw yesterday that made me say "why"... The guy decided to hack his bed up and fit daully wheels on the back o_O and he had no exhaust.

jed_averill
08-17-2011, 09:56 AM
correction, it's 18x10 +25
And I actually agree haha
i don't like it it's too much poke, not enough tuck.
But look at the photo's! decent for an amateur who doesn't shoot cars? :P

haha
It's a bummer cause he's totally in love with it
We just went to a meet and he thought he was going to get all this attention.
Nope.

Didn't he have RPF1's before? Those looked way better.

powdbyrice
08-17-2011, 03:50 PM
Maybe the dude's got big plans like pulling fenders and warping his front bumper to line up or adding some flares. :mangel:

:tehe:
I'm all for truth, but there's a broad line between being truthful and being a _____.

Ju'sayin'...

:stophating:

:tehehyper:
i think you meant "thin" line...

PatrickJamesYu
08-17-2011, 04:07 PM
Yeah I don't like his set up
But he was so set on this it's crazy.
He's trying to have "that fitment no one has".
Apparently a 10 in the fronts for sk2's are rare.

But he want's to be stancenation front page worthy, but he just doesn't get it sometimes.

But look at that photography hahahaha

SHG_EasyE
08-17-2011, 05:53 PM
We just went to a meet and he thought he was going to get all this attention.
Nope.

Thats the problem with this community. Everyone is doing shit to their cars just for attention from others. Its not what the owner wants on the car, its what they think others want to see on the car.

Lame.

Nice shots though!

nmysiismyn
08-17-2011, 06:49 PM
dood get your fucking cat out of there bro...u want me to call the fire dept...where r u finding all these crazy ass pix?

http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/askville/2726445_7333931_mywrite/roflmfao.jpg

http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2009/5/11/128865263910373422.jpg


Yeah but sometimes being honest really opens up peoples eyes. The car is a great car, great wheels and great pic taking, but the wheels just simply don't fit. And by stretching the crap out of the tires to "try" to have it not rub just makes the owner look like hes trying to hard. I'm no hater but stating the obvious i can't help lol. Less wheel and a little bit higher offset and it would look good even with slightly stretched tires.
It reminds me of this Toyota T100 truck i saw yesterday that made me say "why"... The guy decided to hack his bed up and fit daully wheels on the back o_O and he had no exhaust.

All good!


i think you meant "thin" line...

Nah.. I didn't. lol


Yeah I don't like his set up
But he was so set on this it's crazy.
He's trying to have "that fitment no one has".
Apparently a 10 in the fronts for sk2's are rare.

But he want's to be stancenation front page worthy, but he just doesn't get it sometimes.

But look at that photography hahahaha

So, that's the dude who wanted me to align his S2000, I take it. :mrolleyes:
Not touchin' that with a ten foot pole... Sorry homie!


Thats the problem with this community. Everyone is doing shit to their cars just for attention from others. Its not what the owner wants on the car, its what they think others want to see on the car.

Lame.

Nice shots though!

http://gypsyvegan.com/images/lolcats/lolcat_amen.jpg

gtolio
08-17-2011, 07:43 PM
No offense to anyone, and I'm sure you guys have all heard it before, but I can't wait until this hellaflush fad is over and people start building more cars to be driven.

And yes, I feel better now. :mangel:

:hay:

jed_averill
08-17-2011, 08:26 PM
"It gets all the bitches. I don't care."

nmysiismyn
08-17-2011, 08:40 PM
"It gets all the bitches. I don't care."

Haha.. Who's that statement quoting?

bearcat91
08-17-2011, 11:27 PM
215/50 17 with progress springs and stocks shocks...will it work? Used this nifty thing and says its like 33mm taller http://www.rimsntires.com/specs.jsp

PatrickJamesYu
08-18-2011, 12:06 AM
Haha.. Who's that statement quoting?
him self haha

PatrickJamesYu
08-18-2011, 12:07 AM
205/50 17 with progress springs and stocks shocks...will it work? Used this nifty thing and says its like 33mm taller http://www.rimsntires.com/specs.jsp
It will work, but that's pretty damn oversized

I had that on a 15.. though that was quite undersized..
205/50 on a 16 is dope.

jed_averill
08-18-2011, 06:56 AM
Haha.. Who's that statement quoting?

I can't believe you haven't seen this:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-BGIcRBPHM

gtolio
08-18-2011, 07:17 AM
215/50 17 with progress springs and stocks shocks...will it work? Used this nifty thing and says its like 33mm taller http://www.rimsntires.com/specs.jsp

215/45/17 is the perfect size for the ep. I've had two different setups like that.

I would like to see how a 225 or 235 fits for the track though at some point.

powdbyrice
08-18-2011, 01:26 PM
235/40/17 fits nice.

gtolio
08-18-2011, 01:31 PM
235/40/17 fits nice.

with what kind of camber/wheel widths? I'm not interested in running something stupid just to cram it in there, it has to work. just wondering.

nmysiismyn
08-18-2011, 02:11 PM
http://www.carmod.net/images/cars/altima-coupe-body-kit-fail.jpg

27rocks
08-18-2011, 02:14 PM
http://www.carmod.net/images/cars/altima-coupe-body-kit-fail.jpgThat is beyond "crammed in" hahaha

gtolio
08-18-2011, 02:35 PM
lol.... so bad, no wonder the guy was selling it.

nmysiismyn
08-18-2011, 02:52 PM
lol.... so bad, no wonder the guy was selling it.

I bet that sign's been there for at least a year. :tehe:

j0000stin
08-18-2011, 02:54 PM
I bet that sign's been there for at least a year. :tehe:

nice ass ;) hahaha

SHG_EasyE
08-18-2011, 03:43 PM
Haha yeah the For Sale sign says it all

For daily drivers, 225/40 or 225/45 is where its at.

nmysiismyn
08-18-2011, 03:51 PM
Haha yeah the For Sale sign says it all

For daily drivers, 225/40 or 225/45 is where its at.

I'll let her know you approve. :mwink:

Blah1219
08-18-2011, 05:39 PM
nice ass ;) hahaha

Haha you beat me to it.


215/45/17 is the perfect size for the ep. I've had two different setups like that.

I would like to see how a 225 or 235 fits for the track though at some point.

I'll be doing that after my engine is rebuilt. I put some 225/50/16s on layaway but I still have 225/45 stuck in my head.

gtolio
08-18-2011, 06:22 PM
I'm sure it's been posted here in one place or another, but this is the best tire size calculator on the net:

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

c_law23
08-21-2011, 07:18 AM
Ok, so I'm kind of dim on the whole tire wheel situation lol.

I'm shopping around the discount tire website for rims and tires.

The 3 sizes I'm looking at seem to be 16x7, 17x7 and 17x7.5. I cannot find the offset of the wheels I'm looking at on the website. (MB Weapons and Konig Forwards probably.) I'm about to be dropped on Progress springs and was wondering what size tires are needed without having to roll my fenders. I've been looking through here but I don't really know too much about this stuff and like i said i don't
know the offset.

Thanks.

Also I should mention that I live in Columbus Ohio and dont want rubber bands. I dont know if this means I should just forget about the 17s altogether but I really like the looks of 17in wheels.

PatrickJamesYu
08-21-2011, 09:23 AM
Ok, so I'm kind of dim on the whole tire wheel situation lol.

I'm shopping around the discount tire website for rims and tires.

The 3 sizes I'm looking at seem to be 16x7, 17x7 and 17x7.5. I cannot find the offset of the wheels I'm looking at on the website. (MB Weapons and Konig Forwards probably.) I'm about to be dropped on Progress springs and was wondering what size tires are needed without having to roll my fenders. I've been looking through here but I don't really know too much about this stuff and like i said i don't
know the offset.

Thanks.

Also I should mention that I live in Columbus Ohio and dont want rubber bands. I dont know if this means I should just forget about the 17s altogether but I really like the looks of 17in wheels.

Hmm we'll need to know the offset to know if it will rub or not.
205/50 for the 16
and 215/45/17 is playing it safe with the 17's.
But if you want beef you could consider 225/45/17.

c_law23
08-21-2011, 09:49 AM
Hmm we'll need to know the offset to know if it will rub or not.
205/50 for the 16
and 215/45/17 is playing it safe with the 17's.
But if you want beef you could consider 225/45/17.

Ok, I'll have to do some research on other sites on these wheels or contact discount tire as I cannot for the life of me find the offset info on their website. I appreciate the help.

Blah1219
08-21-2011, 10:53 AM
Ok, I'll have to do some research on other sites on these wheels or contact discount tire as I cannot for the life of me find the offset info on their website. I appreciate the help.

The mb weapon are +38. It's in the description. 16x7 4-100 38br

Or you can go to the manufacturers website.

czmark
08-21-2011, 10:58 AM
right now im running 205/40/17 and i have a lot of wheel well gap.
I know i have to lower the car to get rid of this but i just cant now with school. Im wondering if i can get some bigger
tire profile like 45-50 without having the car look like a 4x4. just need your opinion

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/253792_10150208064513128_511028127_7210194_317934_ n.jpg

bearcat91
08-21-2011, 04:37 PM
Will 225/45-17 fit dropped on progress springs with out and mods (camber, rolling ect...) oh and wheels 17x7 +42 also its just a DD, no track maybe the strip if I'm feeling fast ;)

PatrickJamesYu
08-21-2011, 04:43 PM
right now im running 205/40/17 and i have a lot of wheel well gap.
I know i have to lower the car to get rid of this but i just cant now with school. Im wondering if i can get some bigger
tire profile like 45-50 without having the car look like a 4x4. just need your opinion

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/253792_10150208064513128_511028127_7210194_317934_ n.jpg

A 205/40 is pretty undersized for our cars.
I'd try a 205/45 or a 215/45.
It'll make the car a tad bit taller, but it will fill the gap better.
Our cars come with a huge amount of wheel gap so with out a drop, the gap will be there :/

PatrickJamesYu
08-21-2011, 04:44 PM
Will 225/45-17 fit dropped on progress springs with out and mods (camber, rolling ect...) oh and wheels 17x7 +42
With that offset, I think it'd be fine.
Not sure how much those progress springs drop
But our car's come with a huge amount of wheel gap, so I think you'd be okay.

bearcat91
08-21-2011, 05:43 PM
Not sure either lol still need to put em on, but its supposed tto be 1.5f and 1.8r

c_law23
08-21-2011, 06:39 PM
The mb weapon are +38. It's in the description. 16x7 4-100 38br

Or you can go to the manufacturers website.

Ohhh, see told you i was dim on the subject lol. What does the br stand for?

Blah1219
08-21-2011, 09:16 PM
Ohhh, see told you i was dim on the subject lol. What does the br stand for?

Hell if I know. I just know that 38 is a well known number for offsets. I think the konig is +44, but that's just a educated guess for the numbers that I saw. I never went to the manufacturers site. Too lazy!

PatrickJamesYu
08-22-2011, 01:33 PM
195/55/16 on an 8" wide wheel?
Too tall for stretch?
I did a 205/45/16 in the past and It was a tiny bit too undersized for me.

nmysiismyn
08-22-2011, 07:07 PM
http://ra64freddy.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/p61.jpg

:tsk:

PatrickJamesYu
08-22-2011, 07:28 PM
195/55/16 on an 8" wide wheel?
Too tall for stretch?
I did a 205/45/16 in the past and It was a tiny bit too undersized for me.


http://ra64freddy.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/p61.jpg

Oh looks like it'll fit
Thanks for the input
hahaha

bump.

27rocks
08-22-2011, 09:52 PM
There are more ricers in Japan then here lol

gtolio
08-23-2011, 08:05 AM
195/55/16 on an 8" wide wheel?
Too tall for stretch?
I did a 205/45/16 in the past and It was a tiny bit too undersized for me.

That sounds terrible. Why would you want to do that?

RickyBobby1
08-24-2011, 06:39 AM
Rim size Question - Motegi Racing MR125 rims (tire size 215/45 – 17)

Application – 2002 Honda Civic SI EP3 with Koni Yellow and Eibach Pro-Kit or

I have examined various wheel\tire websites for Motegi Racing MR125 rims. The sites indicated that 17X7.5 size would fit on a 2002 Honda Civic SI EP3 with offset of 42.

I am concerned with (tire size 215/45 – 17):
1. Wheel Rub?
2. Wheel protruding outside the wheel well?
3. The wheel gap between the tire and fenders will be tight with the Pro-kit (expectation)?

Thanks in advance?

17x7.5 Motegi Racing MR125 rims
http://www.wheelsnext.com/wheels-rims/17x7.5-Motegi%2520Racing-MR125-Titanium.html

27rocks
08-24-2011, 06:58 AM
I ran 17x7.5 +40 with a slightly wider then normal 225/45 (they were Falken rt615's). No protrusion what so ever with them, if anything i wanted them to be closer to the fender. I honestly can't remember if i rolled my fenders before or after i got the wheels on there, but i do remember never having any issues. And with a 215 tire you should be more then ok.

gtolio
08-24-2011, 07:46 AM
Rim size Question - Motegi Racing MR125 rims (tire size 215/45 – 17)

Application – 2002 Honda Civic SI EP3 with Koni Yellow and Eibach Pro-Kit or

I have examined various wheel\tire websites for Motegi Racing MR125 rims. The sites indicated that 17X7.5 size would fit on a 2002 Honda Civic SI EP3 with offset of 42.

I am concerned with (tire size 215/45 – 17):
1. Wheel Rub?
2. Wheel protruding outside the wheel well?
3. The wheel gap between the tire and fenders will be tight with the Pro-kit (expectation)?

Thanks in advance?

17x7.5 Motegi Racing MR125 rims
http://www.wheelsnext.com/wheels-rims/17x7.5-Motegi%2520Racing-MR125-Titanium.html

I second that. That's a pretty mild setup. In fact I have just about the same thing on my car right now. You aren't going to have any issues whatsoever.

PatrickJamesYu
08-25-2011, 05:11 PM
So I'm getting the Azenis 615's as my next tire.

What is a decent track size tire on a 17x7.5 +35
Or possibly a 16x8 +25

These are going to be track only.
They are also going to be the Azenis as I am getting a deal on those tires specifically.

I mostly do just time attack at Adams Motorsports in Redlands, CA
Also mountain/ canyon runs on Glendora Mountain Road.

gtolio
08-25-2011, 07:04 PM
So I'm getting the Azenis 615's as my next tire.

What is a decent track size tire on a 17x7.5 +35
Or possibly a 16x8 +25

These are going to be track only.
They are also going to be the Azenis as I am getting a deal on those tires specifically.

I mostly do just time attack at Adams Motorsports in Redlands, CA
Also mountain/ canyon runs on Glendora Mountain Road.

225/45/17. Get Direzza Star Specs. They're cheaper and better tires.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Dunlop&tireModel=Direzza+Sport+Z1+Star+Spec&partnum=245WR7Z1SS&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes

http://www.vulcantire.com if you still want the falkens

02TWSI
08-25-2011, 07:07 PM
Falkens rt615 are a great tire. You're going to love them.

gtolio
08-25-2011, 07:16 PM
Falkens rt615 are a great tire. You're going to love them.

The RT615Ks with the new compound are better from what I've been reading, but in the reviews most people still take the Star Specs over them.

Hasbro
08-25-2011, 08:42 PM
Here you go. I really like my Kumhos but I live in a very hot and dry environment, which the Azenis don't like (they get greasy) They all look pretty good but I might try the Hankooks next.
http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/articles/top-tires

The most recent GrassRootsMotorsports test is in the August 2011 issue and the Hankooks came out the definitive leader. Best price, too.

nmysiismyn
08-25-2011, 09:50 PM
So I'm getting the Azenis 615's as my next tire.

What is a decent track size tire on a 17x7.5 +35
Or possibly a 16x8 +25

These are going to be track only.
They are also going to be the Azenis as I am getting a deal on those tires specifically.

I mostly do just time attack at Adams Motorsports in Redlands, CA
Also mountain/ canyon runs on Glendora Mountain Road.

Adam's Motorsports is in Riverside...
Redlands is about 15+ miles NE of it...


That is all! :msmile:

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQZYCGNKW-yJ1IBV8FunmTXH1_1TTUutkFUAtN2wgJ6BtTdqAek

blueandgoldep3
08-25-2011, 09:58 PM
im fitted with rota P45's 18x8.5's on hancook ventus v12's 225/45/18.... great tire(affordable and perform extremely well on the street) rims look great but not really effective for future plans for my car so im gonna have to sell them :(

PatrickJamesYu
08-26-2011, 12:58 AM
Adam's Motorsports is in Riverside...
Redlands is about 15+ miles NE of it...


That is all! :msmile:

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQZYCGNKW-yJ1IBV8FunmTXH1_1TTUutkFUAtN2wgJ6BtTdqAek

Oops.
I should just say Inland Empire.

SHG_EasyE
08-26-2011, 04:59 AM
Oops.
I should just say Inland Empire.

If theyre track only you should consider some R888's or something a bit stickier than the Azenis.

27rocks
08-26-2011, 06:49 AM
If theyre track only you should consider some R888's or something a bit stickier than the Azenis.I agree but if he's never tracked or is on a budget paying twice the price is not a good option right now.

gtolio
08-26-2011, 08:03 AM
I agree but if he's never tracked or is on a budget paying twice the price is not a good option right now.

^This. Learn to track your car FIRST (which is a process that takes years) and you will have a lot better idea of what you want to buy/spend money on. Azenis or Direzzas will be more than fine for you right now. And, unless you have boost, you may never need anything better than them. Heck, I have boost and I don't.

I keep going back to it I know, but the value on the Dunlops speak for themselves. They actually compete with those tires that are twice the price. Just saying.

PatrickJamesYu
08-26-2011, 08:21 AM
Awesome thanks for the input guys.
I have some hours on my belt of track time, but definitely not enough.
I simply want a different set of tires for daily commute and aggressive driving days.
I'm getting a deal on the Azenis, but I'll look into some of the other recommended tires from you guys, and see if my tire guy can get a good price on them.
But yeah, I definitely don't want to over spend on this as I'm not really near that level.
Thanks guys!

devereda40
09-19-2011, 09:54 PM
with 245/40/17 tires, is there any fender rubbing issues? Im getting a set of 949racing wheels and I wanted to add this tire set.
Any suggestions?
Thanks

nmysiismyn
09-19-2011, 10:56 PM
with 245/40/17 tires, is there any fender rubbing issues? Im getting a set of 949racing wheels and I wanted to add this tire set.
Any suggestions?
Thanks

Wheel specs would help...

rps.13
09-20-2011, 07:08 AM
with 245/40/17 tires, is there any fender rubbing issues? Im getting a set of 949racing wheels and I wanted to add this tire set.
Any suggestions?
Thanks

My setup for reference:
http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt212/KAIZENRPS_13/IMG_7737-1.jpg

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt212/KAIZENRPS_13/IMG_7706-1.jpg

17x8 +38, 245/40 advan a048's

Rubs on the fender/guard liners whilst turning. I'm planning on removing them when I hit the track. All other areas seem fine.

As already mentioned, wheels specs would help.

gtolio
09-20-2011, 07:36 AM
Wheel specs would help...

And the amount of drop, camber, etc.

04SiSpeed
09-26-2011, 02:58 PM
What about with a 9" rim, i seen some guys with rsx's running the 9" rims. I wanted to do 235/40-17 +35 offset

ep3beginner
10-01-2011, 03:46 PM
heres a shot out of a connon will i be able to fit and 18x9+20 on the ep and still be drivable?

jed_averill
10-01-2011, 03:48 PM
I've seen people rock 18s but with lil tires and some camber.

02TWSI
10-01-2011, 03:50 PM
18x9?...


Sweet herrafrush Jesus.

powdbyrice
10-01-2011, 09:48 PM
well... 18x9 in itself *might* fit if the offset was different. you could probably fit that on a dc5, but not an ep3.

you would have to run really short sidewalls, plus you'd have to be stretched. both of those things plus a pothole = bad.

errrr... test fit it and let us know how it goes.

Kentoneseboi
10-02-2011, 12:54 AM
i have an 18x9 +30 215/35/18 tires...fun times in san jose, ca luckily i have real wheels...if i had some fake wheels im pretty sure they would have bent out of whack instantly

nmysiismyn
10-02-2011, 01:00 AM
i have an 18x9 +30 215/35/18 tires...fun times in san jose, ca luckily i have real wheels...if i had some fake wheels im pretty sure they would have bent out of whack instantly

I thought you did, but I wanted to confirm 1st.. I think it looks great!

ep3beginner
10-02-2011, 11:00 PM
i have an 18x9 +30 215/35/18 tires...fun times in san jose, ca luckily i have real wheels...if i had some fake wheels im pretty sure they would have bent out of whack instantly

Do you have pics of your wheel set up?

powdbyrice
10-02-2011, 11:08 PM
theres a big difference between +20 and +30 tho...

nmysiismyn
10-03-2011, 01:20 AM
Do you have pics of your wheel set up?

:doh:

His Member's Ride thread (http://www.ephatch.com/forum/showthread.php?55678-Kentoneseboi-s-intro&highlight=)

ep3beginner
10-03-2011, 10:35 AM
:doh:

His Member's Ride thread (http://www.ephatch.com/forum/showthread.php?55678-Kentoneseboi-s-intro&highlight=)
Nice! I saw a set of verosten wheels for $600 18x9+22 on Craigslist on a rsx,thats why I asked that question thanks for the 411 guys

powdbyrice
10-03-2011, 12:59 PM
although the ep3 and the dc5 share a lot of parts, the ability to fit wide tires isn't something they share. :(

jed_averill
10-03-2011, 02:22 PM
Trying to compare 17x9 +20 to a 16x8 +10. What would be the poke differences?

ep3beginner
10-03-2011, 02:30 PM
Trying to compare 17x9 +20 to a 16x8 +10. What would be the poke differences?
Right now I'm rocking a 16x8 +0 not to bad

jed_averill
10-03-2011, 02:48 PM
Both front and rear? What's your camber? PM me a pic

ep3beginner
10-03-2011, 02:58 PM
Yeah all around xxr 002 f:-2.5 r:-4:5

PatrickJamesYu
10-04-2011, 02:41 AM
Trying to compare 17x9 +20 to a 16x8 +10. What would be the poke differences?

If I'm correct, the 17x9 +20 will poke 2.7mm more than the 16x8 +10

jed_averill
10-04-2011, 08:25 AM
That's not a big difference at all, just ride height and tire size will make the considerable difference. Thanks pat.

PatrickJamesYu
10-04-2011, 10:36 AM
That's not a big difference at all, just ride height and tire size will make the considerable difference. Thanks pat.

It doesn't seem like a whole lot
but it can be the difference between clearance and not.

Just keep in mind one is a 16 and the other is 17.
To stance, you have to stretch tires (don't have to but..)
Usually you can keep 17's in stock ratio, but the 16's, I don't think you can stretch and keep stock ratios.
So to get that "perfect wheel gap" you're looking for, might mean having to be a a half inch lower on the 16's than would the 17's.

Tougeep3
10-11-2011, 09:56 AM
Just a quick check. A 15x8 with a +36mm offset fits no problem, correct? Tires would be a 225/45-15 though I'm thinking 245/50-15 up front..

PatrickJamesYu
10-11-2011, 12:37 PM
Just a quick check. A 15x8 with a +36mm offset fits no problem, correct? Tires would be a 225/45-15 though I'm thinking 245/50-15 up front..
I don't think the wheel itself will be a problem
But depending on your height, I'd be concerned about the tires.

mitchlikesbikes
10-11-2011, 03:38 PM
you may need to roll your rears depending on the drop

G-MaC!
10-16-2011, 11:37 AM
I want to run an 8 inch width rim, and I'm riding on A-Spec suspension, looking for a flush fitment. I know you can run 225/50/16's on an 8 inch rim + 38 no roll, no rub and they are beefy as hellll. I don't want to roll my rears. So I thought, in theory you should be able to run a 17 inch rim with less tire, say 225/40/17 hopefully without a roll. Anybody doing this? Thoughts?

dirtyMETHOD
10-16-2011, 02:51 PM
I'm running 17x8 +40 with 215/45's and the rear is fine without rolling. The only thing is I have like 1-2mm left of spacing between the tire and the Non-Rolled Rear fenders.

I would roll the rears if you are planning on running 17x8 +38 or less offset with a 225 width. The profile at 40 or 45 shouldn't be as much of a deal since bumps/gravity will always win(unless your spring rates are crazy).

I would roll em'.

I've thought about 225/45 17s on the 17x8 +40 wheels but that wouldn't be until spring. I'll chime back in if I decide to run those. But depending on the tire(the higher end ones are usually thicker) rolling the rears wouldn't be a bad idea. Just to make it proper.

PatrickJamesYu
10-16-2011, 07:43 PM
I want to run an 8 inch width rim, and I'm riding on A-Spec suspension, looking for a flush fitment. I know you can run 225/50/16's on an 8 inch rim + 38 no roll, no rub and they are beefy as hellll. I don't want to roll my rears. So I thought, in theory you should be able to run a 17 inch rim with less tire, say 225/40/17 hopefully without a roll. Anybody doing this? Thoughts?

I don't think you'd have a problem on A-spec
I don't think it's low enough to the point, that it'll become a problem with your rear fenders.
Though I may be wrong as I have never seen an A-spec ep3 in person.

G-MaC!
10-19-2011, 05:42 PM
I don't think you'd have a problem on A-spec
I don't think it's low enough to the point, that it'll become a problem with your rear fenders.
Though I may be wrong as I have never seen an A-spec ep3 in person.

I guess it might be possible to run a little negative camber to clear the fender. blah blah blah that's not what camber is for, I know. But as far as clearing the trailing arm and the actual fender lining, do you think there will be a problem? Nobody running a 17x8 on A-Spec?!

dirtyMETHOD
10-19-2011, 09:18 PM
I'm running 17x8 +40 on HFP with HFP alignment specs and it fits perfect with about a finger gap between the rear trailing arm.

I read somewhere the A-Spec is similar to HFP but not sure how close they are. But anyways I think with anything less than a +42 offset will clear the trailing arm fine in a 17x8 rim. The rest is just height which makes no diference with the trailing arm. Hopes this helps.

G-MaC!
10-20-2011, 01:55 PM
I'm running 17x8 +40 on HFP with HFP alignment specs and it fits perfect with about a finger gap between the rear trailing arm.

I read somewhere the A-Spec is similar to HFP but not sure how close they are. But anyways I think with anything less than a +42 offset will clear the trailing arm fine in a 17x8 rim. The rest is just height which makes no diference with the trailing arm. Hopes this helps.


Yeah, thanks. It is pretty similar to HFP so hopefully it will be alright. Do you find with an 8 inch rim and a +40 offset that it is getting close to flush?

dirtyMETHOD
10-20-2011, 02:39 PM
I like the way it sits. The fronts are pretty much flush, the rears go in a little bit more than the fronts but with a 215/45 tire there is absolutely no rub anywhere and no rolling or crazy Camber needed. I want to try 225/45 next summer and I think it might just rub a bit on the rear fender. A little extra Canberra should fix it right up if I decide not to roll. I figure if I roll the rear then I would just go for 235/45 all around.

17x8 +40 Wheels with 215/45 Tires
http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad22/dirtyMETHODep3/IMG_6260.jpg
http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad22/dirtyMETHODep3/IMG_6276.jpg
http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad22/dirtyMETHODep3/IMG_6283.jpg

PatrickJamesYu
10-20-2011, 04:16 PM
Yeah, thanks. It is pretty similar to HFP so hopefully it will be alright. Do you find with an 8 inch rim and a +40 offset that it is getting close to flush?

Post a pic of 'flush' so we can compare.
Everybody's rendition is different.


Depending on your tire size, I think it can be.
But the average 8" wide runner on ephatch is going to be 16x8 +0 or +15 which is a bit exaggerated when it comes to "flush".

I recently retired from a 16x8 +0 set up, to a 17x7.5 +35
I consider it to be pretty flush, rubs against fenders, -1 ish camber
doesn't poke past the fenders.
215/45/17 tires.

G-MaC!
10-21-2011, 02:08 PM
I was looking around for a good picture of what I am thinking, then I checked back to this thread haha. I am looking for something just like the setup on the black EP below. Just what I am looking for, thanks for the pics man!

dirtyMETHOD
10-21-2011, 04:56 PM
I was looking around for a good picture of what I am thinking, then I checked back to this thread haha. I am looking for something just like the setup on the black EP below. Just what I am looking for, thanks for the pics man!

Anytime, let me know if you want more pics. I.can take a pic of the rear trailing arm spacing between it and the rim. And the non rolled rear fender with the wheel tucked in(hydraulic jack)

I put 800lbs of pellets in the hatch back in February and drove with the rears tucked in for 15 miles with no rub!

Very surprised, but IMHO the 17x8 +40 wheel Is perfect with the HFP suspension geometry(from my experience) and probably the best bet if you want to go low and not run crazy camber settings.

My driving is Very spirited and I put down lots of miles (avg 20K/year) so proper tire wear is important to me. Wouldn't mind to be a bit lower but wheel specs I wouldn't change. But to each his own

PatrickJamesYu
10-22-2011, 08:38 PM
16x8 +25
w/ tire spec?

Anybody have pics?

rps.13
10-23-2011, 04:34 AM
16x8 +25
w/ tire spec?

Anybody have pics?

Only good pics I got before changing wheels again... Only had them on for a week!

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt212/KAIZENRPS_13/P1010801.jpg?t=1317995132

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt212/KAIZENRPS_13/P1010820.jpg?t=1317995139

16x8 +17, running 205/50/16 Hankook RS2's all round. Minimal amount of stretch. No scrubbing anywhere. With an extra 8mm you could prob get away with running a 215.

whatsvtec
10-23-2011, 04:56 AM
16x8 +38 with 245/45/r16? Will it fit my fat tire friends?

rps.13
10-23-2011, 05:06 AM
16x8 +38 with 245/45/r16? Will it fit my fat tire friends?

Should be fine, depending on what height & camber you're running.

My most recent setup:

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt212/KAIZENRPS_13/DSC01259.jpg?t=1318247830

17x8 +38, 245/40/17 Advan A048's front, running -2.4 camber. Slight rubbing on the fender liners, which I removed.

Rear I was running a 225/45/17 at -1.5, which just cleared. You'd most likely need to run -2ish to tuck the 245/45/16 in???

whatsvtec
10-23-2011, 05:12 AM
Should be fine, depending on what height & camber you're running.

My most recent setup:

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt212/KAIZENRPS_13/DSC01259.jpg?t=1318247830

17x8 +38, 245/40/17 Advan A048's front, running -2.4 camber. Slight rubbing on the fender liners, which I removed.

Rear I was running a 225/45/17 at -1.5, which just cleared. You'd most likely need to run -2ish to tuck the 245/45/16 in???

More camber is great with me, as the tires would mostly be for auto-x and spirited driving sessions.

Your set-up looks beautiful too btw, exactly what I'm going for. I've thought of doing 17x8, but don't want to run rota's or bother swapping to 5-lug . Wilwood kits will be all the brakes I need. Smaller rotating mass is nice too.

How bad was the rubbing? How big of an area? I might even try cutting part of it, or finding a way to pull stretch it.

PatrickJamesYu
10-23-2011, 08:25 PM
Only good pics I got before changing wheels again... Only had them on for a week!

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt212/KAIZENRPS_13/P1010801.jpg?t=1317995132

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt212/KAIZENRPS_13/P1010820.jpg?t=1317995139

16x8 +17, running 205/50/16 Hankook RS2's all round. Minimal amount of stretch. No scrubbing anywhere. With an extra 8mm you could prob get away with running a 215.

Camber during this setup?
Any idea?
Front looks zero'd out but the rear looks like it might have a tad bit of negative.

rps.13
10-24-2011, 02:28 AM
More camber is great with me, as the tires would mostly be for auto-x and spirited driving sessions.

Your set-up looks beautiful too btw, exactly what I'm going for. I've thought of doing 17x8, but don't want to run rota's or bother swapping to 5-lug . Wilwood kits will be all the brakes I need. Smaller rotating mass is nice too.

How bad was the rubbing? How big of an area? I might even try cutting part of it, or finding a way to pull stretch it.

Thanks! The rubbing with the liner in would have been a far bit, I only drove out of my driveway. Slight turning it would scrub on the very front, where the washer bottle sits. Therefore I took them out. Even with them out, the tyres scrubbed at full lock on the inside of the wheel well and at the very top, corner of the chassis that sit inside the guard. I think you could leave it in and just let it rub until it wears away? Or leave it in and trim the bits that rub? I only drove on those wheels for a few days then I put the liners back in.


Camber during this setup?
Any idea?
Front looks zero'd out but the rear looks like it might have a tad bit of negative.

Front measured -1.08 when I got the alignment. Rears I only measured with an iPhone app approximately -2.7 to -3.0.

I should hopefully be back to that setup in a few weeks. But lower!

PatrickJamesYu
10-24-2011, 02:55 AM
Front measured -1.08 when I got the alignment. Rears I only measured with an iPhone app approximately -2.7 to -3.0.

I should hopefully be back to that setup in a few weeks. But lower!

Sweet thanks
I like your wheel arsenal a whole lot
I'm quite jealous.
Post pics of the new fitment/lower!

dbazan
10-25-2011, 11:45 PM
hey guys

im looking at into getting some wheels and i was considering 17x9.5 +28 or 17x8.5 +32
have not seen any pics at all with those sizes
can you please post some pics up and give me some info bout these specs.

thank you.

powdbyrice
10-26-2011, 03:25 PM
17x8.5 +32 will fit much easier than 9.5.

8.5 sticks out a little bit past the fender. looks good tho.

powdbyrice
10-26-2011, 03:31 PM
perfect imo.

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k64/derek1_05/derek_civic_4727.jpg
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k64/derek1_05/derek_civic_4723.jpg
Work XD9 17x8.5 +32 4x100
Falken 205/40/17

PatrickJamesYu
10-26-2011, 04:45 PM
I fully agree with powdbyrice's 2 posts.

Sq8y02
10-27-2011, 01:22 AM
perfect imo.

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k64/derek1_05/derek_civic_4727.jpg
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k64/derek1_05/derek_civic_4723.jpg
Work XD9 17x8.5 +32 4x100
Falken 205/40/17

love this car uber clean!!! cant wait till i get my work xd9s

rps.13
10-27-2011, 03:59 AM
+1!!!

this one is perfect too:

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt212/KAIZENRPS_13/17x8531-1.jpg?t=1319712382

17x8.5 +31

88crx
10-27-2011, 07:34 AM
17x8.5+30 is the perfect fitment for the fronts IMO

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6206/6033797333_b93938f961_o.jpg

No poke with -2.4 camber.

powdbyrice
10-27-2011, 12:52 PM
+1!!!

this one is perfect too:

[IMG]http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt212/KAIZENRPS_13/17x8531-1.jpg?t=1319712382[IMG]

17x8.5 +31
yup. i never saved the pix of this car. its j.bones from socal/san diego. he sold the wheels. :(

timbroski
11-02-2011, 08:30 PM
Will 215/60/r16 tires fit on my 05 ep3?

PatrickJamesYu
11-02-2011, 11:37 PM
Will 215/60/r16 tires fit on my 05 ep3?

Depends on so much more.
Drop, offset, alignment.

But yes it's possible, but that is awfully oversized
I hear it can be dangerous to undersize, and oversize.

ryan02
11-03-2011, 11:34 AM
okay so I know for a fact that 235/40/17 on a 17x7.5 +45 and +35 will fit on a hfp/aspec drop...I recently came across a good deal on 17x7.5 +20. I already have my rears rolled somewhat from a while ago. will a 235/40/17 on a 17x7.5 +20 fit at the drop I'm at?

PatrickJamesYu
11-03-2011, 01:14 PM
okay so I know for a fact that 235/40/17 on a 17x7.5 +45 and +35 will fit on a hfp/aspec drop...I recently came across a good deal on 17x7.5 +20. I already have my rears rolled somewhat from a while ago. will a 235/40/17 on a 17x7.5 +20 fit at the drop I'm at?

At that drop I think so.
Since you're not tucking tire on either of the 4 corners.
As far as compression I don't know
That wheel size wont be tucking
Depending on your alignment, it'll poke just outside of the fender.
I don't know how much your suspension will compress on angled inclines, and dips on roads and highways.

ryan02
11-04-2011, 08:28 AM
I will not go more than -1 camber in the rear for performance sake. Really tempted to buy the wheels. I guess another option could be 235/40/17F and 225/40/17R. That would help me rotate more too :mbiggrin:

thakid
11-08-2011, 12:20 PM
What's the best fitting tire for a 17 rim. Would like best specs on rim aswell. Thanks.
Also 16s. Thank you.

speedooo
11-08-2011, 12:51 PM
16x7+40
225/50/16 Michelin Pilots
-1* Front Camber
-3.8* Rear Camber
Rears are not rolled and the tire is about 1/4" front the inner lip of the qp. I'm lowered about 3.5".

powdbyrice
11-08-2011, 12:52 PM
What's the best fitting tire for a 17 rim. Would like best specs on rim aswell. Thanks.
Also 16s. Thank you.
too vague.

need more info:
wheel width and offset
your drop
what you're going to use your ep for

yungEP3
11-09-2011, 05:47 PM
I got some rota offroad grids 16x8 +10 with tires 205/50, im trying to drop it enough, not hella flush but fender damn near the wheel prolly .5 maybe even 3/4 of an inch ...

If I roll the fenders will I have rubbing issues ? Anyone else have this same setup?
I dont want to run alot of camber also, how close can I get to stock specs

rps.13
11-10-2011, 01:51 AM
I got some rota offroad grids 16x8 +10 with tires 205/50, im trying to drop it enough, not hella flush but fender damn near the wheel prolly .5 maybe even 3/4 of an inch ...

If I roll the fenders will I have rubbing issues ? Anyone else have this same setup?
I dont want to run alot of camber also, how close can I get to stock specs

My P1 wheels/set up on the next page is pretty close to what you've stated. Your rota's will stick out 1mm more and have 13mm more inner clearance.

Camber I was running was:
Front measured -1.08 when I got the alignment. Rears I only measured with an iPhone app approximately -2.7 to -3.0.

Rolled all round, running 205/50/16's, wheel offset 16x8.5 +17, no scrubbing anywhere, maxed low on BC BR coilovers, skunk2 rear camber arms.

You could probably get away with -1.5 to -2.0 at the rear? maybe...

yungEP3
11-11-2011, 09:38 AM
Thanks for the response bro, I like how that setup looks, Maybe im just second thoughts because the fenders arnt rolled yet. I really wanna pull these wheels off but not kill my tires by running camber. You think thats possible ? I dont wanna be max out my my GC's just right above the wheel maybe .5 above from the wheel. Heres pics of my set up so you can determine if its possible to get a flush kinda look


My P1 wheels/set up on the next page is pretty close to what you've stated. Your rota's will stick out 1mm more and have 13mm more inner clearance.

Camber I was running was:
Front measured -1.08 when I got the alignment. Rears I only measured with an iPhone app approximately -2.7 to -3.0.

Rolled all round, running 205/50/16's, wheel offset 16x8.5 +17, no scrubbing anywhere, maxed low on BC BR coilovers, skunk2 rear camber arms.

You could probably get away with -1.5 to -2.0 at the rear? maybe...

yungEP3
11-11-2011, 09:41 AM
54715472

Calvinep3
11-12-2011, 08:38 AM
Sup guys! Thought maybe you could help me out. I've been reading and researching for weeks now and cant seem to be satisfied. Im looking to change my wheels bc they just look silly. I have 15" bronze slips on a NHBP with not lips or skirts. I'm looking to get some 16 or 17. I want something with a lip and a small stretch in tire. I dont want to deal with rolling my fenders. I am on coilovers so height adjustment is not a problem. I would love to look like this on different wheels
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k64/derek1_05/derek_civic_4723.jpg

So whats a good wheels size, tire size, and possibly recommend a wheel for a fellow ephatcher? Thanks guys

whatsvtec
11-12-2011, 08:41 AM
17x8, 205/45, with around a 35mm offset. You wont be as far out as that. But that should allow you to avoid getting a roll. It's up to you, though I'm sure others will chime in.

PatrickJamesYu
11-12-2011, 09:26 AM
Keep in mind, having rolled fenders allow for that look.
Allows you to fill in that gap with less camber, and small amount of tire stretch.
Without rolled fenders, you're limited by a lip that forces you to have your wheels about 3/8ths of an inch in.

whatsvtec
11-12-2011, 10:04 AM
Keep in mind, having rolled fenders allow for that look.
Allows you to fill in that gap with less camber, and small amount of tire stretch.
Without rolled fenders, you're limited by a lip that forces you to have your wheels about 3/8ths of an inch in.

Exactly this. Which is why I suggested a half inch narrower and 5mm farther in on the wheels. You won't be able to achieve such "flush" fitment without rolled/cut fenders/

ep3jd
11-12-2011, 10:07 AM
The set up you posted is 17x8.5 + 31 with 205/40

When stretching the sidewall is the main factor in the clearance provided from the angle of your sidewall and with anything over that size on an 8" won't really stretch much and will provide to be even more difficult to fit without a roll.

Imo stretching and getting a flush set up requires a roll because without it the camber needed to clear will ruin a potentially great set up.

Why don't you want to roll the fenders?

whatsvtec
11-12-2011, 11:15 AM
Listen to this guy ^^^

He know's EP fitment.

PatrickJamesYu
11-12-2011, 07:48 PM
Exactly this. Which is why I suggested a half inch narrower and 5mm farther in on the wheels. You won't be able to achieve such "flush" fitment without rolled/cut fenders/

Yeah!
But when you go 5mm in, it will just appear to be 5mm sunken in..
You can't see the lip to a fender, if you don't roll it, you won't get that "uber close to fender fitment flushness"

rps.13
11-12-2011, 08:03 PM
Thanks for the response bro, I like how that setup looks, Maybe im just second thoughts because the fenders arnt rolled yet. I really wanna pull these wheels off but not kill my tires by running camber. You think thats possible ? I dont wanna be max out my my GC's just right above the wheel maybe .5 above from the wheel. Heres pics of my set up so you can determine if its possible to get a flush kinda look

On second thoughts to get the rear in and not scrub, you might have to go -2.0 degrees camber or more. I recall I trial fitted the P1's during the week, when the rear alignment was still set to my track set up of -1.5 and they stuck out a little. That height was probably .5 inch gap from the wheel. Unfortunately I didn't take any pics, before I change the alignment and put the regamasters back on. Yeah you'd definitely need to roll your guards to get that 'flush' look. Its more a process of trial and error... Roll your guards, lower it, adjust the camber to where you think it'll be good. Go for a drive, if it scrubs. Then re-adjust. Keep re-adjusting until you have minimal scrubbing.


Imo stretching and getting a flush set up requires a roll because without it the camber needed to clear will ruin a potentially great set up.

I agree...

I've seen a EP here in AUS, running a perfectly good set of aggressive offset ce28n's. But the look was ruined coz the guy was tucking tire, with non rolled rear guards. I'd say he would have been running -4 or even -5 camber to tuck it in. It just looked wrong!

whatsvtec
11-12-2011, 08:13 PM
Yeah!
But when you go 5mm in, it will just appear to be 5mm sunken in..
You can't see the lip to a fender, if you don't roll it, you won't get that "uber close to fender fitment flushness"

Yep! There's no way around it. Gotta roll or cut those bitches to make it look sick

powdbyrice
11-12-2011, 11:42 PM
yup, you can't be flush and low without rolling fenders.

even the 17x8 +35 and being kinda low means you have to roll the fenders.

PatrickJamesYu
11-12-2011, 11:58 PM
yup, you can't be flush and low without rolling fenders.

even the 17x8 +35 and being kinda low means you have to roll the fenders.

Well you can...
It's just that you'd have to have people look under your fenders, and you would have to
explain to them how it is that your car is flush, using your fingers, keys, or phone as a tool of measurement. hahaha

Other than that, it'll look like you're trying to pull off a look and it's failing.


OR...
You can do it the right way the first time

Woo!

Calvinep3
11-13-2011, 12:40 AM
I just dont know how or where to get my fenders rolled. I mean im down for the idea but i just have no idea how to do it.

PatrickJamesYu
11-13-2011, 12:51 AM
I just dont know how or where to get my fenders rolled. I mean im down for the idea but i just have no idea how to do it.

Where in SoCal are you?

powdbyrice
11-13-2011, 01:09 AM
1) She did it like this, she did it like that, she did it with a whiffle bat... or have a buddy do it with a bat and a heat gun
2) pay a tuner shop to do it.
3) rent a fender rolling tool and do it yourself.

Calvinep3
11-13-2011, 09:26 AM
1) She did it like this, she did it like that, she did it with a whiffle bat... or have a buddy do it with a bat and a heat gun
2) pay a tuner shop to do it.
3) rent a fender rolling tool and do it yourself.

Ive heard about this! But idk man lol


Where in SoCal are you?

In Alhambra

whatsvtec
11-13-2011, 09:46 AM
Just make sure to use a heat gun so that you don't crack your paint. Plenty of people have done this without problems.

PatrickJamesYu
11-13-2011, 10:28 AM
In Alhambra

Hit up Phil at Demon Werkz in Garden Grove.
or drive out to Rancho Cucamonga and hit me up, my buddy has a roller.
OR bring me a bat haha

zdiddy22
11-13-2011, 01:04 PM
will 15x4 with 1.75 backspacing fit? need them for the track?

ep3jd
11-13-2011, 06:37 PM
I'm glad you've chosen to roll :) please post up any other fitment inquires here. I'm only on this forum to help at this point.

ep393
11-14-2011, 01:22 PM
how about 17x8 +35 with 215/40 tires?
on tein s-tech springs

ep393
11-14-2011, 01:24 PM
will i have to roll my fenders?

ep3jd
11-14-2011, 01:42 PM
Most likely

ep393
11-14-2011, 01:43 PM
thanks!
you think the tire will stick out much or just a bit?

powdbyrice
11-14-2011, 01:46 PM
not at all.

http://www.ephatch.com/forum/showthread.php?58503-17x8-35&highlight=chrispychicken

ep3jd
11-16-2011, 10:48 AM
http://img.tapatalk.com/d03625cf-f722-de36.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d03625cf-f821-c794.jpg
17x9 +25 205/40 falken 912s

http://img.tapatalk.com/d03625cf-f73f-b18c.jpg

17x7 +45 +8 mm spacer front. 215/45 tires I don't know.


Miss my lows

yungEP3
11-16-2011, 12:33 PM
ep3jd you car is tooo clean bro !

I got some rota grids offset is +10 16x8, if anyone on here I know has ran the same wheels, I know ep3jd ran the same. Can someone post some pictures up of some really lowoffset wheels at least 0 offset ! I have to run 15mm spacers to clear my calipers so my offset is going to be -5, Im going to roll my fenders ALOT in order to flush these wheels. It should look good once its all said and done had alot of help with the guys from 7thgen. Oh tires are 205/50

POST 16x8 with 0 OFFSET !!!!!! or anything close por vavor

yungEP3
11-16-2011, 12:43 PM
Thanks bro for the reply, Ive been talking to 7thgen theres a guy on there whos tucking the same wheels and it looks soooo raw. I saw the build so I know what to do :P

Rolling fenders looks like a fun job I cant wait to do it!
Im going to be on Ground controlls prolly cut the perches been looking at Diys on that with stock struts :/

PatrickJamesYu
11-16-2011, 12:53 PM
Thanks bro for the reply, Ive been talking to 7thgen theres a guy on there whos tucking the same wheels and it looks soooo raw. I saw the build so I know what to do :P

Rolling fenders looks like a fun job I cant wait to do it!
Im going to be on Ground controlls prolly cut the perches been looking at Diys on that with stock struts :/

Cut the perches? On ground controls?
There is only one perch, and they low hella low already
You shouldn't need to cut anything.

Edit:
Oh I know what you're talking about
The seat/perch for the stock spring.
NVM what I said!


The 205/50 tires you plan to run on the 16x8 +10 -5
Is pretty beefy.
I mean, people with moderate offsets run that.
I would consider doing 195/50 if it's not too late.
And I think roll your fenders hard, add a good amount of camber all around, and you'll be able to get them to fit.
Pulling the rear fenders a tad would help, but some people frown upon pulling.

ep3jd
11-16-2011, 12:55 PM
http://img.tapatalk.com/d03625cf-14f8-5d4c.jpg

16x8 +10 205/40 nitto neo gen front and dz101 rear

Fenders rolled 0 negative camber



You should run 195/45 with like -2.5 degrees in the rear with a tight roll. All should be well with that.


And I'm pretty sure you don't need such a massive spacer for the front. Because I obviously didn't shave 15 MM off my caliper bracket, only about 2.5... 5 mm spacer max.


Just shave the bracket dude

yungEP3
11-16-2011, 02:47 PM
Ya I know it's a pretty beefy tire, I didnt know what I was getting myself into. These are my first wheels and tire purchase so I obviously learned the hard way defiantly not gonna happen again. I wish I would have went witha 40series but I gotta make these work somehow !

ep3jd, do you have any picture of your brackets shaved ? It doesnt sound that reliable to shave down the brackets.. not bashing just saying this is my DD and I dotn want my breaks to fail... :/ even though its not tha pads.

Check it out heres my inspirtation
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5310/5608742621_09b4a3a275_z.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5061/5618026465_5fb7062eb2_b.jpg

Dont mean to whore Jons car but dude has 16x8 , -5 offset in front and 0 offset in back ! 205/40 werd.

PatrickJamesYu
11-16-2011, 03:03 PM
Check it out heres my inspirtation
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5310/5608742621_09b4a3a275_z.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5061/5618026465_5fb7062eb2_b.jpg

Dont mean to whore Jons car but dude has 16x8 , -5 offset in front and 0 offset in back ! 205/40 werd.

That's Jon Tran's car
He's a local to me.
I think he put those up for sale recently, not sure if they went yet.

I personally think that tire size is too small for the ep3, but I think thats what ep3jd ran, and his looked good.

I'd run 195/50 personally.

Edit: I just looked at the previous post
Yeah, ep3jd ran that same tire size.

ep3jd
11-16-2011, 03:56 PM
No photos.. I've since swapped to type s 5 lug.. Its just the bracket. I only removed maybe 1/8 th of the material which didn't compromise it in the least. I ran the set up for like 10,000 miles.. But regardless the spacer does not need to be that large. And the tires on mine were way small and the car was incredibly low.. Not everyone'a cup of tea. Thats why I recommend the 195/45..

This is how low I was and I didn't even come close to the flushness of that beautiful em2 you posted...


http://img.tapatalk.com/d03625cf-3f5d-1a2c.jpg

yungEP3
11-16-2011, 04:13 PM
Really he's a local to you ? Ive been reading his build its soo sick took my suspension thoughts to a new level. People in California do it big forsure...

I like the pic jd, well maybe ill try shaving it down, but If I do run spacers could I get aways with 5mm or even less ? maybe 3mm ? Dang thats pretty low, so any clarification if the mid pipe and subframe is lower in ep3's or em2, es1s and es2s ? Also will it be easier to tuck I personally think the fender walls on the ep3 are bigger than the em2's ? Can anyone confirm this ?

PatrickJamesYu
11-16-2011, 05:58 PM
Really he's a local to you ? Ive been reading his build its soo sick took my suspension thoughts to a new level. People in California do it big forsure...

I like the pic jd, well maybe ill try shaving it down, but If I do run spacers could I get aways with 5mm or even less ? maybe 3mm ? Dang thats pretty low, so any clarification if the mid pipe and subframe is lower in ep3's or em2, es1s and es2s ? Also will it be easier to tuck I personally think the fender walls on the ep3 are bigger than the em2's ? Can anyone confirm this ?
Link me to his build thread, if he has one.
But yep, local.
I'm not sure on the exact question, but listen to what ep3jd says. He's been there and done that.
Here's a better pic of Jon's fitment.
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6025/6193528307_8ae239d3f1_b.jpg

I was on 16x8 +0 for only maybe 4-6 months.

The more stretch, and the taller the tire, the easier to tuck.
Mostly why I'm stuck on the 195/50 tire size.
It keeps it closer to stock ratio.
Only 1/2" smaller.
And you can tuck more doing so

But then again, some people say it's too much tire, and they want more rubberband stretch, and slam on that.


ep3jd, I can't get my car as low as yours, my midpipe keeps me from going that height.
Did you mod yours? or did you just drive and bash it in?
I'm considering heating and hammering mine so its a bit flatter haha.

ep3jd
11-16-2011, 06:20 PM
I destroyed my Megan mid pipe within a few days but after throwing on this skunk2 60 mm I've been fine.. Only thing was the flange would scrape a lot, but after a month or so it got pretty shaved down so it rarely scrapes.. But the exhaust itself is fine and I'm pretty happy about that. If I stick with this exhaust I'm going to have a shop delete the flange and make it a one piece mid pipe like stock to give me maximum clearance.



On another note I'm trying to decide on the next set of wheels, and since the fitment will give away the brand I just won't mention the model so at least that's a surprise.. 17x8.25 either +35 or +25.. can't decide but if I go +35 I'll be going with a 215/40 and basically completely losing my stretch factor but I'll still stay flush as always



Any input? I'm not sold 100% yet on the wheels so I'm open to ideas.. Kinda wanted to do 16 again but I can't find anything wide enough



I'm kind of ranting but I'm kicking myself in the dick for going 5 lug because wagen wheels came out with bbs lm replicas in 16x9 and that would look so fucking good with a set of 225/45 and slammed on my balls but they only come in 4x100!!!!! Super sucks but what can you do lol


You should get them!! Haha

PatrickJamesYu
11-16-2011, 06:29 PM
I destroyed my Megan mid pipe within a few days but after throwing on this skunk2 60 mm I've been fine.. Only thing was the flange would scrape a lot, but after a month or so it got pretty shaved down so it rarely scrapes.. But the exhaust itself is fine and I'm pretty happy about that. If I stick with this exhaust I'm going to have a shop delete the flange and make it a one piece mid pipe like stock to give me maximum clearance.



On another note I'm trying to decide on the next set of wheels, and since the fitment will give away the brand I just won't mention the model so at least that's a surprise.. 17x8.25 either +35 or +25.. can't decide but if I go +35 I'll be going with a 215/40 and basically completely losing my stretch factor but I'll still stay flush as always



Any input? I'm not sold 100% yet on the wheels so I'm open to ideas.. Kinda wanted to do 16 again but I can't find anything wide enough



I'm kind of ranting but I'm kicking myself in the dick for going 5 lug because wagen wheels came out with bbs lm replicas in 16x9 and that would look so fucking good with a set of 225/45 and slammed on my balls but they only come in 4x100!!!!! Super sucks but what can you do lol


You should get them!! Haha

For sure, Im thinking of getting some custom pipe work done.
My midpipe is killing me.

Haha I already know what wheels
Why don't you get the 9.25's?
Your offset seems quite moderate.
215 on an 8.25? doesn't seem like you.
I'd imagine you doing a 205 or a 195 on a 8.25
Especially with that offset.
I would think you'd be pushing around 20 through 10.

Let's trade lug base
link me to those wheels in 16x9!
225/45 isnt that like a hella expensive tire size? blehhh

ep3jd
11-16-2011, 07:04 PM
It's either 8.25 or 9.75 hahaha if 9.25 was an option I would be all over it. And I want more width/sidewall to my next set of tires so I basically want a 215/40 on whatever I get.. I saw one ep3 with the 9.75 on his ride with that tire size but it was waaaaaaaay too aggressive for my taste



These are the lm reps I want more then anything.. They do come in 5x100 but with a +25 I can't rock an adapter unfortunately it'll poke way too hard for my taste


https://wagen-wheels.com/products/Wagen_Wheels_WW1_16-215-3.html

mitchlikesbikes
11-16-2011, 07:09 PM
i'd go with the +35 and the 215s, the more stretch you need to be flush the worse it looks in my opinion.

PatrickJamesYu
11-16-2011, 07:10 PM
It's either 8.25 or 9.75 hahaha if 9.25 was an option I would be all over it. And I want more width/sidewall to my next set of tires so I basically want a 215/40 on whatever I get.. I saw one ep3 with the 9.75 on his ride with that tire size but it was waaaaaaaay too aggressive for my taste



These are the lm reps I want more then anything.. They do come in 5x100 but with a +25 I can't rock an adapter unfortunately it'll poke way too hard for my taste


https://wagen-wheels.com/products/Wagen_Wheels_WW1_16-215-3.html

dang for sure.

Dude those are sickk
Does ESM have an LM rep in 16x9?
I know they have MANY fitment options

What fitment problems will I run into with 16x9?
I'm familiar with the outside, but I don't know much about the clearance on the inside.
What offsets do I have to stay within?

ep3jd
11-16-2011, 07:13 PM
You can rock up to +35 on a 9".. You basically won't have any issues whatsoever.. It's my last set up but 16 not 17"... I might contact some local shops and check the cost on re drilling the wheels to 5x114.3 from 5x100... I hate dual drilled wheels so that would also involve filling the old holes while I'm at it.. Who knows... Lol any thoughts??

SHG_EasyE
11-16-2011, 07:15 PM
This thread needs more BEEF! :) 17X9 + 31, 245.40.17 and 17x7.5 +48, 225.45.17

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v694/SpoonEpHatch/shg25.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v694/SpoonEpHatch/shg28.jpg

PatrickJamesYu
11-16-2011, 07:25 PM
You can rock up to +35 on a 9".. You basically won't have any issues whatsoever.. It's my last set up but 16 not 17"... I might contact some local shops and check the cost on re drilling the wheels to 5x114.3 from 5x100... I hate dual drilled wheels so that would also involve filling the old holes while I'm at it.. Who knows... Lol any thoughts??

yeah I hate the dual drill too.
Fill and drills aren't that cheap
Seems easy, but they have to refinish the wheel from weld splatter
I've been quoted about $350 for all 4. I don't know if that included the refinish or not though.
We were in discussion, so it's a bit confusing on my end.

And not all wheels can be filled and drilled.

PatrickJamesYu
11-16-2011, 07:26 PM
This thread needs more BEEF! :) 17X9 + 31, 245.40.17 and 17x7.5 +48, 225.45.17


Looks sweet.
How much negative camber you have in the front? the second pic makes it look like it's rocking -5 haha

yungEP3
11-16-2011, 07:26 PM
EDIT: JON ES2! ISSSSS SOOOO SEXY !

So how did you like the 0 offset ? Are your fenders rolled ? Also im digging your new avatar that picture is official lol !


I wish I would have posted here before I got my tires fubbb...Well Ill do my best to pull off these wheels, but thanks for lacing me up Patrick !

Here ya go heres jonny trans build !!
http://www.7thgenhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22479&page=13

SHG_EasyE
11-16-2011, 07:31 PM
Looks sweet.
How much negative camber you have in the front? the second pic makes it look like it's rocking -5 haha

Haha I know right? Its just the lens. Im at -3.5 front and -1.3 rear.

PatrickJamesYu
11-16-2011, 07:33 PM
EDIT: JON ES2! ISSSSS SOOOO SEXY !

So how did you like the 0 offset ? Are your fenders rolled ? Also im digging your new avatar that picture is official lol !


I wish I would have posted here before I got my tires fubbb...Well Ill do my best to pull off these wheels, but thanks for lacing me up Patrick !

Here ya go heres jonny trans build !!
http://www.7thgenhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22479&page=13

I liked the 16x8 +0 it was fun.
I ran a 205/45 which I disliked, I like the 195/50 haha
But it was a lot of fun being that low, with the low offset and camber.
Yes my fenders are rolled, though I think I'm gonna heat them and hammer them to flatten them more.

Can you sell them? People always need tires, you might be able to sell them on Craigslist or something.

And it's a bummer Jon sold the car

ep3jd
11-16-2011, 08:10 PM
I just cant find wheels that are in a size that really appeals to me :(

yungEP3
11-16-2011, 08:48 PM
well ill keep 195/50 in mind bud !
hopefull ill feel the same being that low and having this much offset lol...

Ya they went to work on jons fenders, Im going to roll it out crazyyyyyy after looking at his build

Im trying to trade them but these wheels as CAF ! lol I was thinking about trading if anything some xxr 501's 16x8 +15, What do you think ? Not much of a change but hey ! lol

Ya Iknow it sucks he had the cleanest Es2 him and limestand

yungEP3
11-16-2011, 08:51 PM
how about these Jd ?

No 19's of course..

http://www.tireoption.com/work/VSXX%20Gold.jpg