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Slip_Angle
03-19-2010, 09:50 PM
Looks like the old one is gone..

Dunlop Z1 - 235/40-17 - Wheel Offset 38 - Suspension HFP

Will they fit on the front?

Jpax
03-19-2010, 09:55 PM
is that a wheel offset of +38?

Slip_Angle
03-20-2010, 06:44 AM
is that a wheel offset of +38?

Yes, +38

Cheep3
03-20-2010, 06:27 PM
Before I start - thank god the hatch is back!!! But now I need help before I make an expensive mistake! I have stock 16" wheels on my '05 with a 1.3" drop. Can I fit 225 50 16's without rubbing?? I'm looking at Dunlop Star Specs or Kumho XS and maybe Falken 615's depending on availability and price. I'm also considering 215 45 16, but I want the widest possible tire for Autocrossing. Any help would be greatly appreciated!! Anyone?

Lucid Moments
03-20-2010, 06:46 PM
I run 235/40/17 Toyo RA-1s on my car on Buddy Club RSDs not lowered excessively and they fit just fine in the front. Required rolling the fenders in the rear though.

powdbyrice
03-20-2010, 10:21 PM
Wheel size: 17x7.5 +45
Tire size: 235/40/17 BFGoodrich G-force sport. Also had 215/45/17 BFG g-force sport
Drop: ~0.75" (HFP suspension)
Fenders rolled: No.
Rubbing: No

Hasbro
03-20-2010, 11:15 PM
I run 235/40/17 Toyo RA-1s on my car on Buddy Club RSDs not lowered excessively and they fit just fine in the front. Required rolling the fenders in the rear though.

And that's a very wide 235/40 at the tread. They must be really nice. How many miles do you think you'll get?

Cheep3
03-20-2010, 11:38 PM
Wheel size: 17x7.5 +45
Tire size: 235/40/17 BFGoodrich G-force sport. Also had 215/45/17 BFG g-force sport
Drop: ~0.75" (HFP suspension)
Fenders rolled: No.
Rubbing: No

So what do you guys think? 225 50 16's "should" fit with no problem? Anyone running them?

Slip_Angle
03-21-2010, 08:36 AM
So what do you guys think? 225 50 16's "should" fit with no problem? Anyone running them?

Fronts for sure and likely the rears too.. I was running 225/50/15's at one point with no problems.

Lucid Moments
03-21-2010, 09:03 AM
And that's a very wide 235/40 at the tread. They must be really nice. How many miles do you think you'll get?

I don't know. Doesn't matter really. The RA1s are my track tires I've got some Azenis that I run on the street. My car is no sort of a DD, shes a track whore.

BeaterEP
03-21-2010, 09:06 AM
My lame ass contribution :D

Wheel size: 15x6.5 +45 Konig Reasons
Tire size: 205/55/15 Yokohama Avid V4s
Drop: ~0.75" (HFP suspension)
Fenders rolled: No.
Rubbing: No

So, now you guys know your tiny tires will fit! :mbiggrin:

Lucid Moments
03-21-2010, 11:01 AM
My lame ass contribution :D

Wheel size: 16x6.5 +45
Tire size: 205/55/15 Yokohama Avid V4s
Drop: ~0.75" (HFP suspension)
Fenders rolled: No.
Rubbing: No

So, now you guys know your tiny tires will fit! :mbiggrin:

Neat trick fitting thos 15 inch tires on the 16 inch wheels.:ohwell:

BeaterEP
03-21-2010, 11:58 AM
Neat trick fitting thos 15 inch tires on the 16 inch wheels.:ohwell:

i thought so.
This is where I miss the excellent "facepalm" smiley LOL
fixed

04bluepearl
03-21-2010, 12:15 PM
I'm planning on ordering a set of Drag DR 31's in white, and would like to double check that they will fit with 0 issues.

Wheel size: 16x7
Tire size: 205/55/16
Drop: ~1" (Eibach Pro Kit springs)

Based on the math I should have 1mm less clearance on the inside and the outer edge will sit 11mm farther out that stock. I took some measurements and did research and I "think" they will fit. My only real concern is running a 205 width tire on a 7" wide wheel. I don't want it to look stretched at all, I'm running the 205's because its what I have at the moment. When they wear out I plan on upgrading to some wider tires. Like I said, I'm almost positive this will work no problem, but haven't been able to find anyone running this tire/wheel combination to confirm with. Any thoughts are greatly appreciated!

socmex7
03-21-2010, 12:36 PM
Looks like the old one is gone..

Dunlop Z1 - 235/40-17 - Wheel Offset 38 - Suspension HFP

Will they fit on the front?

yes.. you'll just need a roll in the rear..

what i have that fits:

17x7.5 +45 with 215/45-17 Dunlop Direzza Star Specs

17x8 +45 with 235/40-17 Dunlop Direzza Star Specs

both with no rolled fenders at stock height..

csar3
03-21-2010, 01:29 PM
What about 205-50-16, +38 offset with 1.5 inch drop? Should i be able to fit them no problem?

Cheep3
03-21-2010, 03:42 PM
yes.. you'll just need a roll in the rear..

what i have that fits:

17x7.5 +45 with 215/45-17 Dunlop Direzza Star Specs

17x8 +45 with 235/40-17 Dunlop Direzza Star Specs

both with no rolled fenders at stock height..

How do you like your Star Specs? Do you race them or DD?

Slip_Angle
03-21-2010, 08:00 PM
yes.. you'll just need a roll in the rear..

what i have that fits:

17x7.5 +45 with 215/45-17 Dunlop Direzza Star Specs

17x8 +45 with 235/40-17 Dunlop Direzza Star Specs

both with no rolled fenders at stock height..

The 235's on the front or rear?

I'm installing the 235/40/17's on the front and have existing 215/40/17's on the rear.

socmex7
03-21-2010, 11:40 PM
How do you like your Star Specs? Do you race them or DD?

both.. 215's for DD, 235 for track.. yes i DD my track tire in a different size, that's how much i love these tires... the steering response is great, they heat up nicely, little to no fade throughout a trackday.. i'm tempted to try out the Kuhmo Ecsta XS' next for the track, but their wet traction is what keeps me skeptical.. The only time the Direzzas come off is when i go to the snow.. then the Yokohama YK520's come on with the stockies!


The 235's on the front or rear?

I'm installing the 235/40/17's on the front and have existing 215/40/17's on the rear.

2 different sets of wheels.. so DD is 215's all the way around, track is 235's all the way around..

mobomelter
03-22-2010, 06:41 PM
Wheel: Rota Slipsteam
Size: 16x7 +40 Offset.
Tire: 215/55/16 Yokohama S-Drives
Will I rub with a 1.4 inch drop in the front and a 1.3inch drop in the rear?

03K20A3Si
03-23-2010, 09:17 PM
235/40 with 17x8 +35 on the way...

socmex7
03-24-2010, 02:02 AM
Wheel: Rota Slipsteam
Size: 16x7 +40 Offset.
Tire: 215/55/16 Yokohama S-Drives
Will I rub with a 1.4 inch drop in the front and a 1.3inch drop in the rear?

you may need to roll the rears with that drop.. but it should fit without it..

mobomelter
03-24-2010, 07:08 AM
I've got some negative camber in the rear from the drop since I never installed a kit. Hopefully that will help? Also if you were to choose a tire size what would you choose?

introvert
03-24-2010, 08:39 AM
Current Set
Wheel size: 18" Kyowa Racing (18x7.5)
Tire size: 215/40/18 Yokohama S-Drive
Drop: 1.3" Front / 1.5" Rear (Tanabe GF210)
Fenders rolled: Front
Rubbing: Slight front rubbing (U-Turns, or hard turns on rough road)

Old Set
Wheel size: 18" Kyowa Racing (18x7.5)
Tire size: 215/35/18 Dunlop Direzza DZ101
Drop: 1.3" Front / 1.5" Rear (Tanabe GF210)
Fenders rolled: Front
Rubbing: No

Set 3
Wheel size: 18" Kyowa Racing (18x7.5)
Tire size: 215/35/18 Federal 595RS-R
Drop: 1.3" Front / 1.5" Rear (Tanabe GF210)
Fenders rolled: Front
Rubbing: No

kai-wun
03-24-2010, 08:51 AM
Yay... time for me to bust out my newbie-ness and hopefully avoid getting flamed to hell cos of the crash.

Stock EP3, MAY consider dropping it on buddy club RSD in the future (maybe a year or so) ... only 1" though, I want to keep roll centre correct.

Thinking of these wheels:

Konig Helium, 15x6.5, +40mm offset
205/55R15 Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec
//edit: FCK! the only size the Z1SS come in 15" are 195/55R15 ... which wont work for DD... scrap the 15" idea?
Heliums are soooo light tho! I could run 205/55R15 Yokohama S.Drive or General Exclaim UHP (or cheap out and run Falken Ziex ZE912... ) but I really wanna run those Star Specs!

or

Rota Grid, 16x7, +40mm offset
205/50R16 Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec

More $$$ for bigger tires, but BETTER tires! Weight though ... 16" Grids heavier than 15" Heliums...

mobomelter
03-24-2010, 09:46 AM
you may need to roll the rears with that drop.. but it should fit without it..

Honestly I'm getting to the point where I may just get the same size (205/55/16) I'm running now to avoid the headaches of rubbing. I can always upgrade the tire later if I want.

socmex7
03-24-2010, 11:45 AM
Honestly I'm getting to the point where I may just get the same size (205/55/16) I'm running now to avoid the headaches of rubbing. I can always upgrade the tire later if I want.

honestly the compound of rubber helps more than the size. you can have the widest tire possible but if the compound is shitty it does you no good. unless you're serious about competition, 205/55-16 is your best bet. it's one of the most common tire sizes so the selection is great. and imo 16's on our cars give you too much sidewall to really put a "competitive" tire on. i know lots of auto-x guys run 225/50-16's and swear by them, but i feel like they just haven't run on a good 215/45-17 or wider. that less sidewall really helps the stability in corners. but that's just my opinion like i said :mangel:

ShadowEP3
03-24-2010, 12:11 PM
my contribution:

Wheels: 16x7 +20
Tires: 205/50/16
Drop: 1.5" all around
Rolled: yes
Rubbing: yes--fast corners

im thinking smaller tires..any recommendations?

mobomelter
03-24-2010, 04:43 PM
honestly the compound of rubber helps more than the size. you can have the widest tire possible but if the compound is shitty it does you no good. unless you're serious about competition, 205/55-16 is your best bet. it's one of the most common tire sizes so the selection is great. and imo 16's on our cars give you too much sidewall to really put a "competitive" tire on. i know lots of auto-x guys run 225/50-16's and swear by them, but i feel like they just haven't run on a good 215/45-17 or wider. that less sidewall really helps the stability in corners. but that's just my opinion like i said :mangel:

I understand what you're saying. I want the extra width but the selection for 215/45/16 makes the price per tire go up by almost 40 each. I'm not really into competition just the occasional spirited driving so I guess I'll stick with the stock size. What would you get in a 205/55/16 the S-Drives? Also what is the lug pitch 12x1.5? Trying to order lugnuts.

mobomelter
03-25-2010, 01:27 PM
Bump do we use 12x1.5 or 12x1.25?

socmex7
03-25-2010, 05:30 PM
Bump do we use 12x1.5 or 12x1.25?

12x1.50 and the s-drives are a great DD tire.. smooth, decently grippy. they shouldn't disappoint for your daily..

socmex7
03-25-2010, 05:34 PM
my contribution:

Wheels: 16x7 +20
Tires: 205/50/16
Drop: 1.5" all around
Rolled: yes
Rubbing: yes--fast corners

im thinking smaller tires..any recommendations?

a higher off-set? :shrug:

mobomelter
03-25-2010, 06:00 PM
12x1.50 and the s-drives are a great DD tire.. smooth, decently grippy. they shouldn't disappoint for your daily..

Awesome. I had another question but figured I'd pm you since I'm so annoying. :mconfused:

ShadowEP3
03-25-2010, 08:34 PM
a higher off-set? :shrug:

i dont want beefy tires is all :tehe:..my friend was telling me to go with 195/45s but not sure if i should.

i was thinking maybe 205/40s?

Yo_KyleEP3
03-25-2010, 08:42 PM
im going to be soon running 16x7 and i got 205/50/16 tires dose anyone know if i will rub? I am lowerd on tein stec's and I plan to go lower to like 2.5" or maybe 3 on the racelands. Any input will be apprecitated thanks!

ShadowEP3
03-25-2010, 08:49 PM
im going to be soon running 16x7 and i got 205/50/16 tires dose anyone know if i will rub? I am lowerd on tein stec's and I plan to go lower to like 2.5" or maybe 3 on the racelands. Any input will be apprecitated thanks!


my contribution:

Wheels: 16x7 +20
Tires: 205/50/16
Drop: 1.5" all around
Rolled: yes
Rubbing: yes--fast corners

im thinking smaller tires..any recommendations?

:mangel:

whats the offset?

mobomelter
03-25-2010, 08:51 PM
I'm the same boat. 205/50 will drop your sidewall by about .4" so you should be fine. Why would you want to dump the car that low?

Yo_KyleEP3
03-25-2010, 08:54 PM
:mangel:

whats the offset?


+40 i wanna be slammed tho lol

ShadowEP3
03-25-2010, 08:57 PM
I'm the same boat. 205/50 will drop your sidewall by about .4" so you should be fine. Why would you want to dump the car that low?

+40 i wanna be slammed tho lol

:mangel:
if you go lower you will rub..maybe some 205/45s?

im actually looking to go lower too..but i havent decided with what to go with

Yo_KyleEP3
03-25-2010, 09:02 PM
I was thinkn about 45s but my freinds told me to go with the 50s. I wonder how low i can do without rubbing ahhh

mobomelter
03-26-2010, 09:04 AM
I was thinkn about 45s but my freinds told me to go with the 50s. I wonder how low i can do without rubbing ahhh

One way to find out. Drop the car until the wheel wells get launched out from rubbing. Seriously though why ruin the cars handling going that low? That being said if you want to go really low get the 45 series. That will drop 1.6" off the overall diameter. Good luck.

Yo_KyleEP3
03-26-2010, 09:43 PM
I was just planning to lower it untill i have no more finger gap, maybe i Miss used the word slammed lol

SHG_EasyE
03-27-2010, 08:08 AM
One of the problems I consistently see with these fitment threads is that no one posts their camber specs. Camber is a huge factor is wheel fitment, and running excessive camber can be an issue for some people trying to run a certain alignment setup.

For instance, Ive got 17x9's with 235's all around and I dont rub. Someone will see that and say sweet Im going to pick up some 17x9's and be hella flush yo. The part I left out is that Ive got -3.6* of camber in the back to clear the fenders. I would never wish that kind of rear camber on any FWD car owner, and its been killing me that I couldnt afford new rear wheels until now. As soon as my new setup comes in Ill put up specs.

Slip_Angle
03-27-2010, 09:57 PM
Anyone have experience running a tire to wide for the rim? I received my 235/40/17 Dunlop Z1's and want to mount them on 17x7 rims... Recommended minimum is 17x8.

Dangerous?
Sloppy handling?
Tire roll?
Just fine?

socmex7
03-28-2010, 01:37 AM
Anyone have experience running a tire to wide for the rim? I received my 235/40/17 Dunlop Z1's and want to mount them on 17x7 rims... Recommended minimum is 17x8.

Dangerous?
Sloppy handling?
Tire roll?
Just fine?

it's just like alignment wear. some people get it some people don't. the reason that they don't recommend such a wide tire in a narrow wheel is that when you do that, the tire becomes prone to separating at the shoulder which can lead to tire failure. esp with the Dunlops tho as they run wider than almost every tire in the same size. i'd push it to 7.5, but with your Star Specs i wouldn't do it. my .02

gamma6
04-06-2010, 02:52 PM
What do i need to fit xxr 002 16" 0+ offset? all i have are H&R lowering springs, not quite sure what tire would fit though... Help please!!! i've made a post but i need more help, Ive been waiting to get these wheels and now have the $...

uneekazn1
04-06-2010, 07:40 PM
17x8.5 and 17x9 +40. tire size 245 40 fronts and 235 40 rears.

fordnick3
04-14-2010, 04:46 PM
sooo i have a question... what offset and width will it take to be flush on a 16 or 17 inch rim? i cant decide whether i wan 16s or 17s... i wanna be pretty aggressive with the fitment... HELLAFLUSH!!! lol

powdbyrice
04-14-2010, 05:25 PM
17x8.5 +30ish.

but it really depends on your drop.

fordnick3
04-14-2010, 07:18 PM
alright well cool! ima be slammed as soon as i can afford coilovers!

powdbyrice
04-14-2010, 07:21 PM
look at team era5. he's dropped pretty low with 17x8.5 +30something. it looks siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick. his wheels are for sale too.

or bluep3. he's in the 17" wheel thread.

fordnick3
04-14-2010, 07:24 PM
ohh k! ill try to find it! where wud it be?

socmex7
04-14-2010, 07:44 PM
. he's in the 17" wheel thread.

here? :mbiggrin:

mobomelter
04-15-2010, 10:14 AM
Finally installed my wheels.

Wheel: Rota Slipstream 16x7 +40
Tire: Yokohama S-drive 225/50/16
Drop: Tein S-Techs
Rolled: No
Rubbing: Yes, in the front on big dips and bumps.

Lucid Moments
04-15-2010, 12:05 PM
Anyone have experience running a tire to wide for the rim? I received my 235/40/17 Dunlop Z1's and want to mount them on 17x7 rims... Recommended minimum is 17x8.

Dangerous?
Sloppy handling?
Tire roll?
Just fine?

I run Toyo RA-1s 235/40/17 on a 17 x 7.5" wheel as a track tire and have no problems. The Toyo's have the same recommended minimum of 17x8 as the Dunlops you are looking at too. I don't think the extra half an inch will really make a lot of difference, but you never can tll for sure.

J Mo
04-19-2010, 12:11 PM
hey all -- i have an 03, and so that means i have 4 lugs (shame!)

im planning on changing my wheels in the future from the stock 15's to the 4 lug 16" 7split spoke Civic HFP rims (pic included below for reference), and am planning to run 205/50/16 tires on it (to keep the wheel diameter as close to stock as possible)

question is -- will it be a plug and play installation, or would i have to do some special things? my car rides on stock height

thank you all!

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/2070/omgkf.jpg

LouisianaEP3
04-19-2010, 12:45 PM
My Setup:

Wheel size: 17x7 +42mm Buddy Club SF
Tire size: 215/45/17 Nitto Neo Gen Tires
Drop: Stock Ride Height (for now)
Fenders rolled: No.
Rubbing: No

Future plans are some Buddy Club N+ Dampers.

ragebomb
04-22-2010, 07:09 PM
Here's the setup I'm considering:

Wheels: Volk CE28 17 x 7.5 +43 offset (10-spoke)
Tires: 225/45/17
Drop: Mugen SS, about 1"

Will it rub? Thanks guys. :)

http://www.upgrademotoring.com/wheels/ce28n.htm

socmex7
04-23-2010, 09:01 AM
Here's the setup I'm considering:

Wheels: Volk CE28 17 x 7.5 +43 offset (10-spoke)
Tires: 225/45/17
Drop: Mugen SS, about 1"

Will it rub? Thanks guys. :)

http://www.upgrademotoring.com/wheels/ce28n.htm

do it, it will look hot! no rubbing issues. that's about what the HFP specs are for our cars..

ragebomb
04-23-2010, 10:57 AM
Thanks socmex7!

Everytime I read the words "will it rub?" I think of this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAl28d6tbko

socmex7
04-23-2010, 11:16 AM
That poor ipad!! Why would you do that? :mfrown:

.colin
04-23-2010, 11:43 AM
Here's the setup I'm considering:

Wheels: Volk CE28 17 x 7.5 +43 offset (10-spoke)
Tires: 225/45/17
Drop: Mugen SS, about 1"

Will it rub? Thanks guys. :)

http://www.upgrademotoring.com/wheels/ce28n.htm

youre fine. i have a mugen SS drop, 17 x 7.5 et 48, and a 225/45/17. guy i bought my suspension off of fit a 17 x 8 et 37 and a 225/45/17.

bmyers4321
04-23-2010, 12:03 PM
Wheel size: 17x8 +42
Tire size: BFG G-force Sports 225/42/17
Drop: 2 in H&R/D-specs
Fenders rolled: No
Rubbing: In the front on incredibly slow u turns only.

chiwhitesi
04-23-2010, 12:12 PM
hey all -- i have an 03, and so that means i have 4 lugs (shame!)

im planning on changing my wheels in the future from the stock 15's to the 4 lug 16" 7split spoke Civic HFP rims (pic included below for reference), and am planning to run 205/50/16 tires on it (to keep the wheel diameter as close to stock as possible)

question is -- will it be a plug and play installation, or would i have to do some special things? my car rides on stock height

thank you all!

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/2070/omgkf.jpg

what is the width of these wheels?

xep3ctx
04-24-2010, 03:11 AM
Hi new here. Got a 02 4lug si. will a 16x8 with 245/35/16 tires fit on my car??

xep3ctx
04-24-2010, 03:12 AM
if so how low can i go?? i like at least 2'' inch?? or 1.5??

socmex7
04-24-2010, 11:42 AM
who makes a 245/35-16?

sLiCk
04-24-2010, 12:04 PM
Ya good luck finding a 245/35/16 tire. I would like to say that it almost doesn't exist.

RedSiBaron
04-24-2010, 12:10 PM
toyo makes that size tire

Cheep3
04-24-2010, 12:26 PM
toyo makes that size tire

Yes, Toyo makes the T1R in that size. I can't personally vouch for the T1R but they should be good for aggresive DD. http://www.onlinetires.com/user/vehicle/tires/allbrands.html
I just put a pair of 225-45-16 R1R's on the front of my ep3 and beat several cars in the class above me running racing slicks! I'm definitely a Toyo believer now.

LLH
04-24-2010, 01:31 PM
how are those r1r feeling like? wear and so on?

they are really cheap, around half the price on a r888...

Cheep3
04-24-2010, 02:25 PM
how are those r1r feeling like? wear and so on?

they are really cheap, around half the price on a r888...

They feel on the "soft" side feedback wise but they also feel incredibly sticky. So far (I've only had them 2 weeks) I've done one event and about 500 commuting miles and they seem to be wearing surprisingly well. I didn't have any on-track practice time but was able to break them in and figure out roll-over pressures. I am running these about 15 psi less than my old Falken 215's. After searching online the concensus is that they like lower pressures and I would have to agree. I also learned that they are constructed from the same compound as the r888 - just with a street tread (and 140 UTOG). They also work excellent in the wet! I only have the 2 fronts now and am running my old 205-55-16 Bridgestone 050 P.P. on the rear. The local shop accidently ordered four when I only wanted the two so now I am debating putting them on all corners. The only car that beat me in ST class last week was a well driven 2.5 ltr. 4 whl drive Subaru on Dunlop Star Specs. They were my first tire of choice but the Toyo's were available on easy payment plan by special order from local Les Schwab.

SHG_EasyE
04-24-2010, 06:18 PM
My new setup

Front:
17x9 +35
245/40/17 Z1
-3.0 camber
Pulled fenders about 1/2 inch

Rear:
17x7.5 +48
225/45/17 Z1
-1.8 camber
Rolled fenders

No rub :)

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t131/sohonda_garage/P1080531copy.jpg

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t131/sohonda_garage/P1080529copy.jpg

Alex857
04-24-2010, 07:38 PM
^^bastard lol..

My setup

Wheels: RPF1s 17x9 +35
Tires: 245/40/17 Nitto Invo
Drop: Nothing as of this moment, waiting for time to put suspension in.
Mods: Rears rolled
Issues: Even with rears rolled about half, i rub like hell stock height, but im also stock specs on camber as i havent got my whole setup yet. Ill get some pics tonight.

SHG_EasyE
04-24-2010, 09:32 PM
My car looked like such a monster truck on my 17x9's at stock height. I had rear camber arms though so no rubbing issues. I bet you cant wait to get lowered eh?

Alex857
04-24-2010, 11:14 PM
lol yeah, it doesnt look too aweful bad, shes sleepin tonight, ill get pics tomorrow. Im almost afraid to lower, i dont wanna rub like crazy on autox days, or have to run alot of neg camber, tires get to be expensive. Right now its only rubbing on hard bumps or hard twisties, so idk, ill try to roll them a bit more (i need a damn rolling machine).

socmex7
04-25-2010, 12:28 AM
My new setup

Front:
17x9 +35
245/40/17 Z1
-3.0 camber
Pulled fenders about 1/2 inch

Rear:
17x7.5 +48
225/45/17 Z1
-1.8 camber
Rolled fenders

No rub :)


game

set

match... :bow:
your ep is def one of my favorites. so simple and so clean..

EVOKIN
04-25-2010, 03:45 PM
what is the width of these wheels?I think it is 6.5". I have a new set downstair but too lazy to go check.

SHG_EasyE
04-25-2010, 04:12 PM
game

set

match... :bow:
your ep is def one of my favorites. so simple and so clean..

Thanks dude! Im loving the new setup, the car finally looks proper.

viking9934
05-02-2010, 11:15 AM
Ok, i'm planning to put 16x8 ET 35 with 225-50-r16 and i'm drop of .75 inch(ohlins setup). So , my question is .....will it fit(rub...)? will it be safer to have 40 of offset? Or i just go for 15x8?

socmex7
05-02-2010, 06:24 PM
from earlier in the thread:

Finally installed my wheels.

Wheel: Rota Slipstream 16x7 +40
Tire: Yokohama S-drive 225/50/16
Drop: Tein S-Techs
Rolled: No
Rubbing: Yes, in the front on big dips and bumps.

s-techs are a lot lower than .75 inches so the +40 will fit.

the +35 will def rub in the rear like whoa..

viking9934
05-03-2010, 04:15 PM
thanks, i will go for +40

jofus228
05-10-2010, 04:00 AM
Hey peeps, I'm trying to decide on a tire for my rims which are 16x8. I was thinking of Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS PS or Yoko Advan S4 in 225/50/16. If you have any other suggestions let me know please I'm looking for something that is good for dry and wet conditions. Thanks ahead of time.

socmex7
05-10-2010, 06:46 PM
star specs.. :mbiggrin:

jofus228
05-10-2010, 08:31 PM
I'm unable to find them on tirerack in the size I want.

ttc86
05-20-2010, 12:36 AM
Hey guys, okay i did some research on some fitment... i tried searching but i couldn't find exactly what i was looking for. I just wanted to double check if a 17x7.5 wheel with 225/45/17 tires with a +45 offset would rub with a 1" to 1.5" drop? Or would a 215/45/17 tire work better...? From the info i gathered, if it's a 1" drop everything should fit, i just wanted to check before i start buying stuff :P lol

ttc86
05-23-2010, 12:29 AM
Still wondering if 17x7.5 +45 would fit without rubbing... and would +40 make a difference? Kind of just wondering what my safe offset range would be with a 17x7.5 wheel and about a 1" drop

_shift
05-23-2010, 01:24 AM
Debating on going with some 225/50/16's on a slightly lower stance..anyone have issues with this set up? Or should I just go safe with a 215?

fordnick3
05-23-2010, 09:14 AM
Still wondering if 17x7.5 +45 would fit without rubbing... and would +40 make a difference? Kind of just wondering what my safe offset range would be with a 17x7.5 wheel and about a 1" drop

that shouldnt rub... thats around what i have and i dont rub...

jh604
05-23-2010, 10:50 AM
I think it is 6.5". I have a new set downstair but too lazy to go check.

you are correct sir!

dirtyduck17
05-23-2010, 03:51 PM
So if I went with a 17x7.5 with a +45

225/45r17s

1"~ drop Front and Rear

Would it Rub? Or blend?

ShadowEP3
05-23-2010, 06:51 PM
doubt youll rub

dirtyduck17
05-24-2010, 11:39 AM
doubt youll rub


Thanks. I must be simple or something because I have trouble getting my head around the whole offset thing.

Slip_Angle
05-24-2010, 12:50 PM
Well, I finally made the decision on tires... Currently running 215/40-17 Star Specs, which are almost done. I was going to get them again but after thinking long and hard as to how I use my car the best tire for my needs are the Hankook Evo V12's in a 215/45-17.

I was only planning on autocrossing 2-3 times this year so it just wasn't worth the price or wear of the StarSpec's.. They are an awesome tire but my needs have changed.

The bonus is that the V12's are $400 shipped plus a $50 rebate. Sweeet deal.

Ordered the V12's from Discounttiredirect.com - These guys always rock.

socmex7
05-24-2010, 09:16 PM
The bonus is that the V12's are $400 shipped plus a $50 rebate. Sweeet deal.

Ordered the V12's from Discounttiredirect.com - These guys always rock.

hell yea!! (that's our online store)

LLH
06-04-2010, 06:56 AM
-Can i fit 17x8 Et44 with 225/45-17 rear and 17x8 ET38 with 225/45-17 at the front with 1.5 degrees of camber front and rear, with little to no lowering(CTR).. without rolling the arches ??

Going from stock struts and springs to coilovers. how much more space does the coilovers give you at the front? 17x7 ET 45 with 225/45-17 is really close to the spring seat on the stock struts, so i dont think i can get 1.5 degress of camber with that offset. Thats why im thinking ET38 at the front..

And 17x7 ET45 with 225/45-17 clears everything at the rear at stock height with stock camber.. so the rear will be okay afaik.

SHG_EasyE
06-04-2010, 03:02 PM
My new setup...

Front:
17x9 +35 RPF1
DC5R control arms
245/40/17 Dunlop Z1's
3 degrees camber
Rolled and pulled fenders

Rear:
17x7.5 +48
225/45/17 Dunlop Z1's
1.8 degrees camber
Rolled fenders

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t131/sohonda_garage/DSCF0286.jpg

.colin
06-07-2010, 02:45 PM
17 x 7.5 et 33 w/ 225/45/17 -.5 camber and a 1.5" drop - more neg camber or rolling of fenders to make this fit? what about et 28?

thanks!

SHG_EasyE
06-08-2010, 09:41 AM
17 x 7.5 et 33 w/ 225/45/17 -.5 camber and a 1.5" drop - more neg camber or rolling of fenders to make this fit? what about et 28?

thanks!

You will want to roll fenders in the rear. What tires do you plan on running? Different tires will be wider or narrower depending on brand and model.

.colin
06-08-2010, 09:51 AM
You will want to roll fenders in the rear. What tires do you plan on running? Different tires will be wider or narrower depending on brand and model.

this is for the front only, im debating spacers for my fronts which are 17 x 7.5 et 48 with a 225/45/17 sumitomo htrz III, I believe the section width is 8.9

SHG_EasyE
06-10-2010, 09:16 AM
Ohhh yeah dude it will fit just fine on the front. My 17x9's with 235's fit up front with no rubbing issues.

DA9_GSR
06-16-2010, 11:23 AM
2003 NHBP Civic EP3
- five lug conversion (2003 RSX Base)
- Energy Suspension bushing kit

Wheel size: 17x7 EP3 CTR wheels
Tire size: 205/45ZR17 BFGoodrich gForce Sport
Drop: ~1.00" (05-06 A Spec)
Front / Rear alignment: -1.5 / -0.75
Fenders rolled: No
Rubbing: No

I'm curious if my friends Toyo R888 235-40-17 mounted on 17 X 8 with 38mm offset wheels
will fit without rubbing?

socmex7
06-16-2010, 01:25 PM
what is the wheel width?

27rocks
06-16-2010, 03:13 PM
2003 NHBP Civic EP3
- five lug conversion (2003 RSX Base)
- Energy Suspension bushing kit

Wheel size: 17x7 EP3 CTR wheels
Tire size: 205/45ZR17 BFGoodrich gForce Sport
Drop: ~1.00" (05-06 A Spec)
Front / Rear alignment: -1.5 / -0.75
Fenders rolled: No
Rubbing: No

I'm curious if my friends 235-40-17 35mm offsets will fit without rubbing.
Reason being, he will give them to me when I want to track because they
have Toyo R888's mounted to them.+
You will have to roll the rear but they will fit.

what is the wheel width?

Seeing as how he said they are 235's im guessing they are 8's

socmex7
06-16-2010, 06:22 PM
Seeing as how he said they are 235's im guessing they are 8's

you are prolly right :mbiggrin:

DA9_GSR
06-17-2010, 07:49 AM
Correction

The wheels are 17 X 8 w/ 38mm offset.
The tires are Toyo R888 235-40-17

1fasthb
06-25-2010, 03:44 PM
can 17x9 +25offset fitt up? if so what size tire's should i go for? thanks for any help

SHG_EasyE
06-25-2010, 06:38 PM
can 17x9 +25offset fitt up? if so what size tire's should i go for? thanks for any help

It will fit up front with a 235/40 tire but will not fit in the rear.

1fasthb
06-29-2010, 01:17 PM
what wont fit in the rear the rim and that tire size? or just the wheel and also what if you roll'd the back fenders would that help?

1fasthb
07-02-2010, 07:10 AM
what wont fit in the rear the rim and that tire size? or just the wheel and also what if you roll'd the back fenders would that help?

ttt

27rocks
07-02-2010, 11:21 AM
The +25 is pretty low but it will work with a stretched tire ~215 or 225 and lots of camber. It will look retarded imo but people have fitted with lower offsets.
Im running a 245 tire on a 17x9 +35 and dont rub at all with -2.8 of camber.

verseone
07-05-2010, 07:15 AM
hey guys..

im currently running volk mesh wheels 17x8 +44 volks with 215/45/17 tires... dropped on racelands. no major rubbing issues, rear fenders are rolled.

im debating on trading for some advan rg 18x7.5 +45 with 225/40/18 tires..

my concerns are #1. will i have fitment issues with the 18s? #2. will i loose performance? #3. will i look like an SUV? or can our cars handle 18s just fine..

Thanks for the input.

27rocks
07-05-2010, 10:52 AM
hey guys..

im currently running volk mesh wheels 17x8 +44 volks with 215/45/17 tires... dropped on racelands. no major rubbing issues, rear fenders are rolled.

im debating on trading for some advan rg 18x7.5 +45 with 225/40/18 tires..

my concerns are #1. will i have fitment issues with the 18s? #2. will i loose performance? #3. will i look like an SUV? or can our cars handle 18s just fine..

Thanks for the input.

1. you wont have any issues with the fitment. That's pretty much like a stock size and offset (width/offset).
2. Yes!!! 18s a little too big for our cars. Also they are much heavier than 17's. 17's are the perfect size for a Ep track car.
3. It can handle 18's... i've seen some people with them but imo they look really silly. Just imagine an older honda civic with 17's on it. It just looks weird and out of place.

verseone
07-05-2010, 08:14 PM
Thanks for the advice..i think i might just hold off till i can get a more aggressive fitment on 17s..

TronG
07-06-2010, 10:05 AM
Do u guys think 16 x 8 pluss 33 offset with 205/40/16 tires fit without rubbing with rear quarters rolled and do I have to run negative camber, and how much??

27rocks
07-06-2010, 10:51 AM
That should fit just fine but why such narrow tires? And you might need to run a little bit of camber but not very much.

TronG
07-06-2010, 02:34 PM
I'm getting theses wheels from a friend of mines and that's the tires he's running. What tire size should I go with?

powdbyrice
07-06-2010, 11:31 PM
1. you wont have any issues with the fitment. That's pretty much like a stock size and offset (width/offset).
2. Yes!!! 18s a little too big for our cars. Also they are much heavier than 17's. 17's are the perfect size for a Ep track car.
3. It can handle 18's... i've seen some people with them but imo they look really silly. Just imagine an older honda civic with 17's on it. It just looks weird and out of place.

18s are ok. someone had the Mugen GP's from the FG/FA. looked ok. turbotypermanda had the honda edition volks (champ white w/red stripe) in 18's. looked hawt.
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e357/vtecbaby/ProjectHorizon%20-%20TypeRTurbo/TypeRturbo20.jpg
http://www.ephatch.com/forum/showthread.php?43370-Had-to-re-register-(&p=510519&highlight=#post510519

SHG_EasyE
07-07-2010, 04:21 AM
I test fitted my buddies 18" mugen GP's and it looked like a clown car lol. The size and wheel shape has to be perfect for it to look ok. Super low ride hieght is also a must with such big wheels to conceal their size a bit.

DrZfInEsT
07-07-2010, 09:15 AM
^ Pics or it didn't happen lol!!

27rocks
07-07-2010, 10:07 AM
I agree 18's just look silly imo.

88crx
07-07-2010, 10:55 AM
If you get 18" wheels that have a big lip on them it will look fine, the lip makes the rim look smaller. If you get something like the RG2's where the spokes go all the way to the edge of the rim (no lip) they look alot bigger then they actually are.

And yes, must be dumped to pull it off.

powdbyrice
07-07-2010, 04:54 PM
looks ok to me :shrug:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v467/clorax/488.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v467/clorax/AtlantaMeetFeb2009011-1.jpg

DRP967
07-08-2010, 10:30 PM
I test fitted my buddies 18" mugen GP's and it looked like a clown car lol. The size and wheel shape has to be perfect for it to look ok. Super low ride hieght is also a must with such big wheels to conceal their size a bit.

^Yeah that

socmex7
07-09-2010, 08:44 AM
looks ok to me :shrug:

that's because the Mugen GP's, like the MB Weapons, have spokes that com in before the lip. it gives them the appearance of being a wheel that is an inch smaller. i also think that 18's just look too big for our cars...

verseone
07-18-2010, 12:21 AM
Pros/Cons of this setup-

BBS RYII. 17x8 +35 front, 17x9+35 rear. 215/45/17 tires.

I've never ran a staggered setup before...any input?

Kentoneseboi
07-18-2010, 12:42 AM
18's sooooo work =D come to the union city meet on alvarado niles on tuesday and you can see 18's on an ep3

socmex7
07-18-2010, 08:30 AM
Pros/Cons of this setup-

BBS RYII. 17x8 +35 front, 17x9+35 rear. 215/45/17 tires.

I've never ran a staggered setup before...any input?

the fronts will be fine, the rears will not. 27 rocks can give more accurate input since he HAS 17x9 +35's all the way around.

uneekazn1
07-18-2010, 09:47 AM
Pros/Cons of this setup-

BBS RYII. 17x8 +35 front, 17x9+35 rear. 215/45/17 tires.

I've never ran a staggered setup before...any input?

It depends on yur suspension height, why not run 17x9 in front (reverse stagger)? Tires you can fit depends how high on ep. 9s can fit 245/40 and 8s 225/45 or 235/40.

SHG_EasyE
07-18-2010, 11:02 AM
Pros/Cons of this setup-

BBS RYII. 17x8 +35 front, 17x9+35 rear. 215/45/17 tires.

I've never ran a staggered setup before...any input?

Why do you want to run a stagger incorrectly on a FWD car? Whats the attraction to running wider wheels in the rear when there is clearly less room than the front? I just dont get it.

verseone
07-18-2010, 07:58 PM
18's sooooo work =D come to the union city meet on alvarado niles on tuesday and you can see 18's on an ep3

Sucks, i have school tuesdays. As for running staggered rims, i dont want to, i was just offered a set in trade. I'm on 17x8 all the way around right now, im just not totally happy with the offset.

DRP967
07-18-2010, 09:26 PM
18's sooooo work =D come to the union city meet on alvarado niles on tuesday and you can see 18's on an ep3

Post pics nao. :mbiggrin:

ep_hatcher_510
07-18-2010, 11:09 PM
Pros/Cons of this setup-

BBS RYII. 17x8 +35 front, 17x9+35 rear. 215/45/17 tires.

I've never ran a staggered setup before...any input?

Reverse it and you will be good. Although those tires are pretty small.

Kentoneseboi
07-19-2010, 02:30 AM
Post pics nao. :mbiggrin:

lol juss come to tuesday meet from 11:30 to 12

27rocks
07-20-2010, 08:19 AM
Pros/Cons of this setup-

BBS RYII. 17x8 +35 front, 17x9+35 rear. 215/45/17 tires.

I've never ran a staggered setup before...any input?

Those are some tiny ass tires.... anyways im running 17x9 +35's like people have said and 245 itres all the way around. I got -3 and -2.8 of camber F to R and have no rubbing issues at all. I'm also at about a finger gap in the front and a finger and a half in the rear to give you an idea where it sits.
I would personaly put the 9's up front and the 8's in the rear. Your car is going to drive 100x better that way trust me. And i'm not talking about track speed here this is just every day driving. Putting a reverse stagger on a FWD car makes it twitchy and easy to spin around. People that say otherwise have no clue or have never driven a properly set up car.

TronG
07-20-2010, 07:52 PM
Ok, I've been debating for weeks now on getting 15s or 16s. But I finally decided to go with 15x8 0offset. What size tires should I get?

DRP967
07-23-2010, 08:25 AM
Im trying to run RFP1s in 17X7.5 (+45 offset) with 215/45/17 tires, will i rub anything? (im dropped on GC/Koni Yellow and have no wheel gap/slight tuckage)
The reason i ask is because i have 05-06 Rsx Type S wheels that are 17X7 (+45 offset) and the rear wheels inner part looks really close to the suspension components...im not sure if the 7.5 with +45 offset will clear? Thanks in advance.

karxarias
07-27-2010, 04:34 PM
I've read through all the tire size threads I can find but there is so much bloody variety of wheel sizes and offsets and whatnot I'm still having a hard time finding a solid answer.

I'm looking to buy a new set of 16" Rota slips and new rubber. What is the biggest rim/tire combo in 16" that will fit on a stock EP without rubbing or requiring fender rollling? I'm currently running 225/50/16s on stock 16" rims with no issues.

How about with a 1" drop?

todaamann
07-27-2010, 06:56 PM
how do you the yokohama S drive - 215/40/16 would look with hfp susp? too small? the diam is 22.7". i'd like to go with 225s, but these might work. i don't want any rubbing, so are 50/16s out of the question? i'm a complete tire noob.

ep3jd
07-27-2010, 07:30 PM
I've read through all the tire size threads I can find but there is so much bloody variety of wheel sizes and offsets and whatnot I'm still having a hard time finding a solid answer.

I'm looking to buy a new set of 16" Rota slips and new rubber. What is the biggest rim/tire combo in 16" that will fit on a stock EP without rubbing or requiring fender rollling? I'm currently running 225/50/16s on stock 16" rims with no issues.

How about with a 1" drop?


you've got alot of choices. with such a low drop you'll be able to pull off a variety of tire sizes, you need to finalize a choice in wheel before tire. if you like stretched, get stretched. youll pull off a lower offset on a wider wheel with less fitment issues. if you like the beefy shit you got goin for you now then that will leave you with a more subtle "stance" in terms of aggressiveness since you'll be limited by the 'rub factor'

karxarias
08-01-2010, 12:46 PM
you've got alot of choices. with such a low drop you'll be able to pull off a variety of tire sizes, you need to finalize a choice in wheel before tire. if you like stretched, get stretched. youll pull off a lower offset on a wider wheel with less fitment issues. if you like the beefy shit you got goin for you now then that will leave you with a more subtle "stance" in terms of aggressiveness since you'll be limited by the 'rub factor'

Thanks for the response!

I'm set on getting 16" Rota Slipstreams as from what I've read around here the Rota Slips seem to be one of the lightest and strongest rims you can get without breaking the bank. What I'm not sure about however is if it's possible to fit a wider tire than the 225s I have now after I get some Raceland Coilovers and drop the car 1" all around. Is it possible to fit 235s or 245s with a 1" drop without rubbing issues? If so how wide of a 16" rim would I need (I have no idea what the deal is with offset) and what would the tire size be?

powdbyrice
08-01-2010, 01:39 PM
U should check the availability of tire widths in 16s. I was looking when i was considering 16x8s and I couldnt find anything good.

02TWSI
08-02-2010, 09:22 AM
has 16x8 +20 been done already? what kind of tire size would accommodate

NickL
08-02-2010, 01:00 PM
17x9 +42 all around. Tucking all the way around on racelands but not by much.

What size tire and fender modifications will be needed?

Will those rub on any suspension components?

Thanks a lot

88crx
08-02-2010, 04:52 PM
17x9 +42 all around. Tucking all the way around on racelands but not by much.

What size tire and fender modifications will be needed?

Will those rub on any suspension components?

Thanks a lot

7.5+47 rubs on the rear trailing arm. So the highest offset 9" wide wheel you could run is a +25 or so I would guess.

27rocks
08-02-2010, 05:01 PM
7.5+47 rubs on the rear trailing arm. So the highest offset 9" wide wheel you could run is a +25 or so I would guess.

Im running 17x9 +35 with 245/40 all the way around with no problems. Rolled rear fenders and -2.8 of camber.

88crx
08-02-2010, 07:08 PM
Im running 17x9 +35 with 245/40 all the way around with no problems. Rolled rear fenders and -2.8 of camber.

Yea but the lower you go the closer the trailing arm gets to the inside lip of the rim.... and he specifically said he's going to slam it.

Garanteed 100% he will rub really bad on the rim.

27rocks
08-02-2010, 07:24 PM
Yea but the lower you go the closer the trailing arm gets to the inside lip of the rim.... and he specifically said he's going to slam it.

Garanteed 100% he will rub really bad on the rim.

No matter how low you go it will never get any closer to the trailing arm... the only way that will happen is if you run like 5 degrees of toe in which no one will ever run. The top of the wheels bend in toward the car (negative camber) the lower you go not pigeon toe in in a "<" shape. You are mixing up Camber with Toe.

88crx
08-02-2010, 09:15 PM
No matter how low you go it will never get any closer to the trailing arm... the only way that will happen is if you run like 5 degrees of toe in which no one will ever run. The top of the wheels bend in toward the car (negative camber) the lower you go not pigeon toe in in a "<" shape. You are mixing up Camber with Toe.

Then why does it not rub when the cars stopped but does in hard corners/bumps?

I don't have aat toe and I'm -2.5 camber in the rear. I understand the difference.

I have pics of where it rubs.

27rocks
08-02-2010, 10:26 PM
Then why does it not rub when the cars stopped but does in hard corners/bumps?

I don't have aat toe and I'm -2.5 camber in the rear. I understand the difference.

I have pics of where it rubs.
Well if it does rub then you must be running a very high offset to with... also the rubber bushings flex under load. Thats why stock cars are so comfy. Everything on them is ment to absorb the bumps. But if you are having proplems with it rubbing then you have the wrong offset.

88crx
08-03-2010, 08:45 AM
Well if it does rub then you must be running a very high offset to with... also the rubber bushings flex under load. Thats why stock cars are so comfy. Everything on them is ment to absorb the bumps. But if you are having proplems with it rubbing then you have the wrong offset.

I realize that it's too high offset.... thats the point I'm trying to make haha. It rubs right now with 17x7.5+47..... my guess is another 3-5mm an it will clear fine. Then when you take that backspacing and calculate the same for a 9" wide rim it puts you at around +25ish.

The rear trailing arm does get closer as you go lower (either slammed or suspension travel in corners). So yes with your wheel setup if you slam it you will rub on the rear trailing arm.

Here's the pics:
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/88crx/fender-02.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/88crx/fender-03.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/88crx/fender-04.jpg

27rocks
08-03-2010, 09:14 AM
I realize that it's too high offset.... thats the point I'm trying to make haha. It rubs right now with 17x7.5+47..... my guess is another 3-5mm an it will clear fine. Then when you take that backspacing and calculate the same for a 9" wide rim it puts you at around +25ish.

The rear trailing arm does get closer as you go lower (either slammed or suspension travel in corners). So yes with your wheel setup if you slam it you will rub on the rear trailing arm.

+47 is way to high.. My last set up was 17x7.5 +40 and it worked out perfect. I don't know if its your current suspension, bushings or alignment but i have about half a fingers gap between my wheel and trailing arm. And even when my suspension is compressed to where the tire goes into the rear fender i have the same amount of clearance. It has never rubbed for me... the car drives perfectly straight and all my alignments were in stock specs for toe. Even when i would go on hard drives or auto-x i never had any issues. Are you sure you did your math correctly lol?

88crx
08-03-2010, 09:34 AM
+47 is way to high.. My last set up was 17x7.5 +40 and it worked out perfect. I don't know if its your current suspension, bushings or alignment but i have about half a fingers gap between my wheel and trailing arm. And even when my suspension is compressed to where the tire goes into the rear fender i have the same amount of clearance. It has never rubbed for me... the car drives perfectly straight and all my alignments were in stock specs for toe. Even when i would go on hard drives or auto-x i never had any issues. Are you sure you did your math correctly lol?

Come on man.... I realize the offset is too high! LOL. Do you understand how offset works? Have you checked your math?

17x7.5+47 has the exact same backspacing as a 17x9+28. Therefore 17x9+28 will rub on the suspension in the rear if you are slammed.

You can check/compare offsets here:
http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp

You're failing to understand that the trailing arm gets closer to the rim as you lower the car more with a coilover set up. If you were to slam your car with your current set up your rims will rub.

27rocks
08-03-2010, 09:39 AM
I understand everything you are saying, but the fact that i have this current setup on my car and others have also it kinda proves you wrong. And i was just messing around with the offset being to high LOL.

88crx
08-03-2010, 09:50 AM
I understand everything you are saying, but the fact that i have this current setup on my car and others have also it kinda proves you wrong. And i was just messing around with the offset being to high LOL.

You can blab on about how I'm wrong but I have clear proof with a fucked up rim and gouged trailing arm to prove you wrong.

Yours (and others) don't rub cause your car is not that low:

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g248/k20ep3/IMG_1743.jpg

VS

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/88crx/blog/type-one_blog_03.jpg

Can you grasp the ride height difference? Come on man..... I don't understand why you're being so difficult in understanding the situation here.

27rocks
08-03-2010, 10:03 AM
lol first of all my car is a little lower than that.. Im on uneven dirt there so the car was actually leaning to one side. When my car is on a slope (like a driveway) my rear tire actually tucks under the fender yet it doesnt scrape, hit or touch my trailing arm. I'm not being difficult i am just clearly stating the the facts i have encountered.

You are about to make me go outside and take some pics lol

88crx
08-03-2010, 10:08 AM
lol first of all my car is a little lower than that.. Im on uneven dirt there so the car was actually leaning to one side. When my car is on a slope (like a driveway) my rear tire actually tucks under the fender yet it doesnt scrape, hit or touch my trailing arm. I'm not being difficult i am just clearly stating the the facts i have encountered.

You are about to make me go outside and take some pics lol

I agree that yours doesn't rub and that it's not even close.... this is because of your ride height.

The trailing arm gets closer to rim the lower you go. You are not that low and therefore you do not rub.

27rocks
08-03-2010, 10:51 AM
You are right that the trailing arm gets closer but very minimal. Also this is completely correctable with an alignment. I went ahead and took some pics lol

Here is what i did.. lifted the car and threw some blocks under the tires then loaded it up with some heavy shit lol

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g248/k20ep3/IMG_1897.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g248/k20ep3/IMG_1893.jpg

This is as low as i can get it to go...

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g248/k20ep3/IMG_1908.jpg

Trailing arm gap..

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g248/k20ep3/IMG_1901.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g248/k20ep3/IMG_1902.jpg

The gap was exactly the width of my finger when compressed all the way so i clearly had lots of room left. ~ +.5 inches.

Then i lowered the car.. note that there hasn't been any load on it so it didnt settle to the height it actually sits at which is perfect because its even higher for comparison.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g248/k20ep3/IMG_1910.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g248/k20ep3/IMG_1911.jpg

The gap was almost the same! Almost though... i had an extra maybe 1/8in more gap which is not much.

It was hard to take the pic since its so low to the ground:
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g248/k20ep3/IMG_1912.jpg

So in conclusion yes it does move closer, but very minimal. And like i said before it can be fixed with an alignment to make it have the exact gap even when its slammed. There for my current setup 17x9 +35 will never rub no matter how low i go. And i have a good almost 3/4 of an inch of room at the end of the day.

88crx
08-03-2010, 11:07 AM
Wrong.

When you lower the car (with coilover or lowering spring) it gets closer by the amount you lower it by. They are directly related to each other. If you lower the car 3" then the arm gets 3" close to the rim.

This is different then the trailing arm moving with the suspension as it travels over bumps (or set up on blocks like you have).

27rocks
08-03-2010, 11:08 AM
Wrong.

When you lower the car (with coilover or lowering spring) it gets closer by the amount you lower it by. They are directly related to each other. If you lower the car 3" then the arm gets 3" close to the rim.

This is different then the trailing arm moving with the suspension as it travels over bumps (or set up on blocks like you have).

hahaha ok buddy whatever you say.

88crx
08-03-2010, 11:13 AM
Yea I guess you're right.... I must be imagining the damaged rim and grinding sounds when I corner hard haha.

27rocks
08-03-2010, 11:18 AM
Yea I guess you're right.... I must be imagining the damaged rim and grinding sounds when I corner hard haha.

Well what do expect? You obviously did your homework and bought the wrong offset. And your 3'' myth is so wrong i dont even know where to begin....

88crx
08-03-2010, 12:09 PM
Whatever man, I'm done with this thread.... I don't give two shits if you or some other random guys wheels rub on the suspension or not. I know my wheel/suspension set up and I know that its rubs. All I'm trying to do is help someone else out.

27rocks
08-03-2010, 12:14 PM
Whatever man, I'm done with this thread.... I don't give two shits if you or some other random guys wheels rub on the suspension or not. I know my wheel/suspension set up and I know that its rubs. All I'm trying to do is help someone else out.

I understand that and i am trying to do the same. There is clearly some kind of miscomunication somewhere in all of this. No hard feelings man.

Si Death
08-03-2010, 04:38 PM
you guys need to meet at a parking lot with switch blades

charles
08-03-2010, 05:18 PM
you guys need to meet at a parking lot with switch blades

....naked

Type_R_Nammer
08-04-2010, 02:48 AM
Would 205/50/17's be too big for 17x7 for our EP's ?

88crx
08-04-2010, 07:31 AM
....naked

Nobody would want that haha.

27rocks
08-04-2010, 10:21 AM
Would 205/50/17's be too big for 17x7 for our EP's ? Here you go.. use this as refrence and compare to you current tires.

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

EP_Jon
08-04-2010, 11:24 AM
....naked

this hella made me laugh.... :rofl:

Type_R_Nammer
08-04-2010, 12:41 PM
Here you go.. use this as refrence and compare to you current tires.

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

Thanks for your help!

guess its 205/45/17 for me then =p

27rocks
08-04-2010, 12:47 PM
Thanks for your help!

guess its 205/45/17 for me then =p

You can go as wide as 215's on 7's.. i would if i were you, but if you want the 205's go for it.

Draw7Seven
08-08-2010, 12:17 AM
Bunch of 17s questions in this thread... do 16s just fit by default? I want to run 16s in either 7.5 or 8.0 with a moderate (NOT slammed), daily driveable drop. Suggested offset to make it look pretty and fit well? Is it really tough to find tires for 16x8?

DRP967
08-08-2010, 06:48 AM
you guys need to meet at a parking lot with switch blades

lol ^

Now please just answer this, i wanna run 17 X 7.5 or a 17 X 8 with +45 offset. Im dropped to the point where i have zero wheel well gap. Will i rub? (not fender wise but suspension component wise ie. rear trailing arm/LCA/etc?)

*I have 05-06 Type S wheels now which are 17 X 7, +45 offset and they sit real close the trailing arm/LCA or whatever that tubish arm thingy is under the car. So thats why i wanna make sure my new wheels will be hassle free, thanks.

Draw7Seven
08-08-2010, 07:30 PM
Bump for me and Myspace.

DRP967
08-08-2010, 08:55 PM
Bump for me and Myspace.

Thanks Draw7Seven, bump!!! i would run 16s myself but the 04-05 EP3's OEM tire size is 205/55/16.
I think visually and proportianaly 16s look optimal on EP3s, but its that damn balloon 55 series tire size. I could always go with 45s but i dont wanna screw up speedometer accuracy and increase revs per mile.

16 X 7 or 16 X 7.5 would be my pick with a +45 offset, thats pretty and clean to me. But it all depends on what look your going for, if you want some poke/flushness like a more agrresive stance, you have to go with wider wheels and a lower offset.

Like a 16 X 8 _________offset, ___________________ tires, etc.
Someone chime in.

27rocks
08-09-2010, 11:38 AM
anything from a +35 to +40 should work with 8's. Tires all really depends on you. I would stick to the stock radius as much as possible though. http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html figure out how wide you can go and how tall the tire needs to be.

Seems like a 225/50/16 is perfect.

Heitzke
08-09-2010, 12:10 PM
225/50's have too much sidewall IMO. I've been running 225/45's which are perfect to me, but it severely limits tire options. Tirerack only displays 4 options in this size. At this rate, I'm going to end up going to 17's just for better tire options.

I'm running 16x7 +40's currently and it fits pretty well.

27rocks
08-09-2010, 12:43 PM
225/50's have too much sidewall IMO. I've been running 225/45's which are perfect to me, but it severely limits tire options. Tirerack only displays 4 options in this size. At this rate, I'm going to end up going to 17's just for better tire options.

I'm running 16x7 +40's currently and it fits pretty well.I only suggested that size because it comes out to the stock radius wheel/tire specs :thumbu:

88crx
08-09-2010, 12:57 PM
lol ^

Now please just answer this, i wanna run 17 X 7.5 or a 17 X 8 with +45 offset. Im dropped to the point where i have zero wheel well gap. Will i rub? (not fender wise but suspension component wise ie. rear trailing arm/LCA/etc?)

*I have 05-06 Type S wheels now which are 17 X 7, +45 offset and they sit real close the trailing arm/LCA or whatever that tubish arm thingy is under the car. So thats why i wanna make sure my new wheels will be hassle free, thanks.

You're close to the rear trailing arm.... thats the big tubish thing. The 7.5+45 will be really really close..... +47 rubs so your're only adding 2mm. The 8.0+45 will defenitely rub.

You should get them and the post up pics and prove 27rocks wrong.

27rocks
08-09-2010, 01:10 PM
You're close to the rear trailing arm.... thats the big tubish thing. The 7.5+45 will be really really close..... +47 rubs so your're only adding 2mm. The 8.0+45 will defenitely rub.

You should get them and the post up pics and prove 27rocks wrong.

How would he prove me wrong?

NickL
08-09-2010, 02:57 PM
So I guess I started this whole battle haha. Whoops.

Well at the end of it theres still 2 different opinions so im back to square 1.

27rocks
08-09-2010, 03:15 PM
So I guess I started this whole battle haha. Whoops.

Well at the end of it theres still 2 different opinions so im back to square 1.

There are no opinions only facts. Just because 88crx thinks he can do math doesnt mean hes right not to mention his math i obviously wrong because i am proving him wrong with my current set up. Half the shit that he types down makes no sense what so ever. I've had multiple friends look at the nonsense he has posted and all have laughed at him. When it comes to wheel fitment he doesnt know what hes talking about. The guy obviously bought the wrong offset and rubs so he thinks he knows everything. I have done my research for over 3 months before buying my wheel set up. Everyone had mixed feeling about it but i did my math and proved everyone wrong.
I can care less if im right or wrong the only thing i care about is making sure the info that is being passed here is correct so other people wont end up in the same situation as 88crx and have their shit rub when he says it wont or have something fit when he says it doesn't.

88crx
08-09-2010, 03:59 PM
There are no opinions only facts. Just because 88crx thinks he can do math doesnt mean hes right not to mention his math i obviously wrong because i am proving him wrong with my current set up. Half the shit that he types down makes no sense what so ever. I've had multiple friends look at the nonsense he has posted and all have laughed at him. When it comes to wheel fitment he doesnt know what hes talking about. The guy obviously bought the wrong offset and rubs so he thinks he knows everything. I have done my research for over 3 months before buying my wheel set up. Everyone had mixed feeling about it but i did my math and proved everyone wrong.
I can care less if im right or wrong the only thing i care about is making sure the info that is being passed here is correct so other people wont end up in the same situation as 88crx and have their shit rub when he says it wont or have something fit when he says it doesn't.

I have 17x7.5+50 (+47 with my 3mm spacers) that rub on my rear trailing arm..... zero math is involved in that. People can take that for what its worth.

Maybe my wheels are stamped wrong and are really +60..... maybe the grinding noise is just something I'm imagining..... maybe I'm lying about all of it......

OR maybe your car is 4x4ing and has complete different suspension geometry and really doesn't help anyone that actually wants to lower there car and figure out what size wheels will fit.

27rocks
08-09-2010, 04:10 PM
I have 17x7.5+50 (+47 with my 3mm spacers) that rub on my rear trailing arm..... zero math is involved in that. People can take that for what its worth.

Maybe my wheels are stamped wrong and are really +60..... maybe the grinding noise is just something I'm imagining..... maybe I'm lying about all of it......

OR maybe your car is 4x4ing and has complete different suspension geometry and really doesn't help anyone that actually wants to lower there car and figure out what size wheels will fit.

Thats what i'm trying to tell you man.. your offset is way to high!!!! But then you say this other nonsense about other wheels not fitting when in fact people have had them on their cars for years! I am not talking to you about your wheels i am answering other peoples questions that want to use wheels which would work.
Any my car is not 4x4 ing what so ever.... I guess a finger gap is on all the rock climbing trucks :/ . I showed you what my car looks like even lower than i'm at now. The tire is even under the fender. What other proof do you want??? Your math is either wrong or you just simply dont understand how everything as one works together. I don't know how else to explain it to you.

DRP967
08-09-2010, 05:47 PM
You're close to the rear trailing arm.... thats the big tubish thing. The 7.5+45 will be really really close..... +47 rubs so your're only adding 2mm. The 8.0+45 will defenitely rub.

You should get them and the post up pics and prove 27rocks wrong.

Thank you for your response.

My 05-06 Rsx Type S wheels are already super close to the rear trailing arm/tubish thing.

Specs for 05-06 Type S wheels and my current tire size:

17X7
+45
Tire size: 215/45/17

*Thing is i wanna run 17X7 Enkei RPF1 but if im not mistaken they dont have a 17X7...its a 17X7.5 and so on. My stock wheels are already close to the rear trailing arm and thats only a 17X7, +45. I dont wanna cop these RPF1s and then have issues with rubbing the tube thingy. Fenders are not a problem since rears are rolled and fronts well they pretty much clear so i didnt touch em. My car is down to zero wheel well gap, not slammed i guess but definately low enough for me. Im not trying to go with all that "Hellaflush" stance wheels so i need wheels that is very close to if not the same as stock in terms of size/fitment.

Heitzke
08-09-2010, 05:53 PM
I only suggested that size because it comes out to the stock radius wheel/tire specs :thumbu:

Prove it. Your car is a 4x4 so you wouldn't know.

27rocks
08-09-2010, 05:56 PM
Thank you for your response.

My 05-06 Rsx Type S wheels are already super close to the rear trailing arm/tubish thing.

Specs for 05-06 Type S wheels and my current tire size:

17X7
+45
Tire size: 215/45/17

*Thing is i wanna run 17X7 Enkei RPF1 but if im not mistaken they dont have a 17X7...its a 17X7.5 and so on. My stock wheels are already close to the rear trailing arm and thats only a 17X7, +45. I dont wanna cop these RPF1s and then have issues with rubbing the tube thingy. Fenders are not a problem since rears are rolled and fronts well they pretty much clear so i didnt touch em. My car is down to zero wheel well gap, not slammed i guess but definately low enough for me. Im not trying to go with all that "Hellaflush" stance wheels so i need wheels that is very close to if not the same as stock in terms of size/fitment.

I already answered your question...... if you go with the 7.5's then get a +35 and you will clear you can even get away with a +40 all day long. So anything in between that should fit perfect with little camber ~ -1.5. I had 7.5's with a +40 offset and no issues at all and ran a 225 tire (they were 17's but still would be the same with 16's).

02TWSI
08-09-2010, 06:02 PM
ok so back to my question since 27rocks obvi pioneered the wide wheels thing....16x8 +20 will it fit? fender rolling? flares? tire size to roll with? Currently dropped on sportlines....

27rocks
08-09-2010, 06:10 PM
ok so back to my question since 27rocks obvi pioneered the wide wheels thing....16x8 +20 will it fit? fender rolling? flares? tire size to roll with? Currently dropped on sportlines....

It all depends on what you consider "fit". I will say yes. With camber they will fit without any issues especially if you rolled your fenders. There are people on here with 16x8 +0 /+15 offset and 205's i believe dumped, so yeah yours would fit.

Heres Trippy's car (hope you dont mind Trippy).
http://www.ephatch.com/forum/showthread.php?56766-Trippy-Orange-County-03-Taffy

DRP967
08-09-2010, 07:05 PM
I already answered your question...... if you go with the 7.5's then get a +35 and you will clear you can even get away with a +40 all day long. So anything in between that should fit perfect with little camber ~ -1.5. I had 7.5's with a +40 offset and no issues at all and ran a 225 tire (they were 17's but still would be the same with 16's).

Missed that, thanks for the info. By going to a +35 to 40 offset, will i be putting significant stress on my wheel bearings/studs or something like that? I heard that running lower offset wheels can do that, like anything that more than 10 MMs is not idea. I know lots of people run low offsets but in the long run will it do damage? BTW ill be running 17s. Thanks again.

88crx
08-09-2010, 07:36 PM
Thats what i'm trying to tell you man.. your offset is way to high!!!!
Agreed, they are too high of an offset (I already said this once before). 17x7.5+50 is too high of an offset.


I am not talking to you about your wheels i am answering other peoples questions that want to use wheels which would work. .
LOL, ok then. Use your 'setup' as an example for everyone. I will continue to do the same with mine.


Your math is either wrong or you just simply dont understand how everything as one works together. I don't know how else to explain it to you.
I'm not doing any math. I'm simply stating what I have on my car and what will work in different widths using an offset calculator (then there's no mistakes with the math). I already posted this once, perhaps you didn't see it the first time?

http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp

7.5+47 has the same inner clearance as:
8.0+41
8.5+34
9.0+28
9.5+22

With those numbers in mind, all those wheel sizes would rub on my car with my drop.


I also snapped some pics early tonight for your enjoyment...

wheel damage:
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x24/88crx2/ep3_offset_01.jpg

17x7.5+50 (don't forget I'm using a 3mm spacer as well)
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x24/88crx2/ep3_offset_02.jpg

nick on the trailing arm
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x24/88crx2/ep3_offset_03.jpg

drop in the rear
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x24/88crx2/ep3_offset_04.jpg

88crx
08-09-2010, 07:38 PM
Missed that, thanks for the info. By going to a +35 to 40 offset, will i be putting significant stress on my wheel bearings/studs or something like that? I heard that running lower offset wheels can do that, like anything that more than 10 MMs is not idea. I know lots of people run low offsets but in the long run will it do damage? BTW ill be running 17s. Thanks again.

7.5+40 you'll be golden.

Put the offset/width you have on your car right now and fool around with the offset calculator to figure out how much more inner/outer clearance different widths/offsets effect the wheel spacing. That way you can't mess up the math.

88crx
08-09-2010, 07:39 PM
An old archived thread that may help as well.

http://www.ephatch.com/forum/showthread.php?44678-Inside-lip-of-rim-rubs-slightly-on-rear-trailing-arm&highlight=

27rocks
08-09-2010, 07:53 PM
How is your tire wear?

DRP967
08-09-2010, 07:59 PM
7.5+40 you'll be golden.

Put the offset/width you have on your car right now and fool around with the offset calculator to figure out how much more inner/outer clearance different widths/offsets effect the wheel spacing. That way you can't mess up the math.

Thanks for the input, 7.5 +40 offset sounds good. Only a 5 MM difference from the stock offset of +45.
BTW you EP looks noice.

*BTW i read that achived thread you posted, informative and insightful. It was the offset that was affecting you. I wanted to stay with +45 to retain stock offset however with the 7.5 vs. 7...ill need to go down a bit lower in offset to prevent the inner rim of the wheel from rubbing the rear lower control arm. I dont feel bad with the +40 like i said its only 5 MM off from stock. And yes i never liked the idea of running spacers.

Draw7Seven
08-09-2010, 08:02 PM
I kind of wish a moderator would clean this shit up. I like both of you just fine and hate what each of you has done to this thread.

27rocks
08-09-2010, 08:50 PM
LOL our bad.

I have no beef with anyone here so i hope 88crx doesn't take anything i say personal.

02TWSI
08-09-2010, 09:51 PM
It all depends on what you consider "fit". I will say yes. With camber they will fit without any issues especially if you rolled your fenders. There are people on here with 16x8 +0 /+15 offset and 205's i believe dumped, so yeah yours would fit.

Heres Trippy's car (hope you dont mind Trippy).
http://www.ephatch.com/forum/showthread.php?56766-Trippy-Orange-County-03-Taffy


Oh shit you know I never bothered to look at the specs on his wheels, I see this car at all the meets lol. Now I feel STUPIT!

88crx
08-10-2010, 11:06 AM
Thanks for the input, 7.5 +40 offset sounds good. Only a 5 MM difference from the stock offset of +45.
BTW you EP looks noice.

*BTW i read that achived thread you posted, informative and insightful. It was the offset that was affecting you. I wanted to stay with +45 to retain stock offset however with the 7.5 vs. 7...ill need to go down a bit lower in offset to prevent the inner rim of the wheel from rubbing the rear lower control arm. I dont feel bad with the +40 like i said its only 5 MM off from stock. And yes i never liked the idea of running spacers.
Yea man 5mm is nothing. Look at a ruller and you can't even measure that small haha.



How is your tire wear?
I wouldn't say it's bad. The camber doesn't wear the tire any faster it just wears it in a different spot. I go through wheels so often and I hardly even drive the car anymore so tire wear isn't a big concern.


LOL our bad.

I have no beef with anyone here so i hope 88crx doesn't take anything i say personal.
The internet...... serious buisness. lol

socmex7
08-10-2010, 11:11 AM
Sweet jesus, I don. Go on the hatch for a couple days and stuff hits the fan lol. As per the argument on whether or not 17x8 +45 fits I run that set up with 235/40-17 direzza star specs at the track and I don't rub. I'll post pics when I get back from Mexico. But if I were to buy the wheels again in an 8inch wide application I'd go with either +40 or +35 and i'd roll the rears so that they would fit. As for 16x8 I'd prolly stick to the same offsets but tires for that size are hard to come by. If you're jut going for aesthetics then by all means, 225/45-16 looks less bulgy, paired with a nice drop it looks nice. But 225/50-16's have more of a performance selection. But as for performance, the extra weight of the 17's is a small price to pay for the seemingly endless choice option.

Draw7Seven
08-10-2010, 02:51 PM
Yeah I feel like I get so turned off by seeing 18's on our car that I wanted to stay with 16's, but really 17's would probably fill the wheel wells better when I have less gap. Right now (on stock height) the 16's look fine because the wheel setup couldn't look much more awkward on my car as it is. Maybe I'll go for 17s, thanks guys.

socmex7
08-10-2010, 03:12 PM
Trust me man, I had almost he EXACT same thought. Some people can make 18's work, most can't. I originally wanted 16's due to the weight factor bu I ended up on 17's for the tire selection. Now I cthink 17's look best imho.. :mwink:

02TWSI
08-11-2010, 12:54 AM
Doing a little research I see they sell the wheel I'm looking at in 16x8 +34 as well. What I was looking for with a wide 16 was a wide tire....a 225.

So say i'm at a 2" drop on some stiff coilovers, will I be able to tuck a 225/45 under there with said wheel size?

27rocks
08-11-2010, 10:54 AM
Doing a little research I see they sell the wheel I'm looking at in 16x8 +34 as well. What I was looking for with a wide 16 was a wide tire....a 225.

So say i'm at a 2" drop on some stiff coilovers, will I be able to tuck a 225/45 under there with said wheel size?

I can tuck my 17x9 +35's with a 245 tire if i really wanted too, so yes you should be able too with that setup. Even when i hit really deep bumps on the freeway i know it tucks up in there super far and never scrub or rub on anything.

02TWSI
08-11-2010, 10:56 AM
awesome, thanks for the info

Draw7Seven
08-11-2010, 01:32 PM
I can tuck my 17x9 +35's with a 245 tire if i really wanted too, so yes you should be able too with that setup. Even when i hit really deep bumps on the freeway i know it tucks up in there super far and never scrub or rub on anything.

That's with rolled fenders, correct? Not that I'm opposed to the idea, I'm just trying to get a general understanding of what requires rolling.

27rocks
08-11-2010, 08:33 PM
That's with rolled fenders, correct? Not that I'm opposed to the idea, I'm just trying to get a general understanding of what requires rolling.

Of course... rolling fenders is a must. Its easy and cheap to do. Imo our cars should have come with rolled fenders to begin with.

ep3jd
08-11-2010, 09:10 PM
ok so back to my question since 27rocks obvi pioneered the wide wheels thing....16x8 +20 will it fit? fender rolling? flares? tire size to roll with? Currently dropped on sportlines....

check my signature. 16x8 +10, fenders rolled +/-0 camber settings. my car is definitely low. the wheels i purchased also come in +20, and i do wish i got those because these poke hard and im real low with 205/40. yes i'm aware my speedo is off by about 5%, im changing tire size soon anyhow.

hope this helped?

02TWSI
08-11-2010, 09:38 PM
do you have any better pics of your car with those wheels? I was looking at them before cause I think they would go hard in the paint with a polished finish.

NickL
08-12-2010, 05:34 PM
17x7.5 +45 dumped on coilovers. This shouldn't rub on any suspension components right? And what size tire would be reccomended?

Thanks.

DRP967
08-12-2010, 07:47 PM
17x7.5 +45 dumped on coilovers. This shouldn't rub on any suspension components right? And what size tire would be reccomended?

Thanks.

If im not mistaken the 17X7.5, +45 will rub the rear trailing arm, i have 17X7, +45 (05-06 Rsx Type S wheels) and the rear right wheel's inner rim is hella close to the rear trailing arm. If you want to run 17X7.5, go with a +35 to +40 offset to allow for clearance. Personally id go with the +40.

*BTW i found out Enkei does have a 17X7, +45, 5X114.3 size...it comes in bright silver.
I ordered a set today from Racinglab. Cant wait till they come in, my friend Vincent (the owner) told me 2 weeks.
RPF1 crew holla!

socmex7
08-12-2010, 10:11 PM
i have 17x8+45 and they don't hit the trailing arm. but then again im not stupid low because i don't like understeer.

for 7.5's i'd either go with 225/45-17 if you can fit the extra sidewall, or 215/45-17 so it's closer to stock diameter.

chiwhitesi
08-13-2010, 06:07 AM
does anyone have a pic of 225/50/16's??? or 225/55/16

ep3jd
08-13-2010, 05:49 PM
do you have any better pics of your car with those wheels? I was looking at them before cause I think they would go hard in the paint with a polished finish.


i have this cell phone picture? lol

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee213/halfwitboyx3/CARS%2009/my%20whip/Unnamed.jpg

test fitting them:

rear:
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee213/halfwitboyx3/CARS%2009/my%20whip/IMG_1504.jpg

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee213/halfwitboyx3/CARS%2009/my%20whip/IMG_1505.jpg

front:
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee213/halfwitboyx3/CARS%2009/my%20whip/IMG_1500.jpg

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee213/halfwitboyx3/CARS%2009/my%20whip/frontfitment.jpg

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee213/halfwitboyx3/CARS%2009/my%20whip/rearveiw.jpg


eh? ehhhhhh? EEEHHHHHHH???????




lol sorry i just detailed my car and i'm a little delusional

urthworm
08-14-2010, 11:39 PM
17x7.5 +45 dumped on coilovers. This shouldn't rub on any suspension components right? And what size tire would be reccomended?

Thanks.
i have 17x7.5 +45 with 235/40/17 pretty low with about 2 fingerish gap in rear and 1 half finger gap in front, no rubbing at all. oh and only about 1 deg camber in the rear. You should be fine unless you want the tucked look, then im not to sure.

urthworm
08-14-2010, 11:48 PM
I can tuck my 17x9 +35's with a 245 tire if i really wanted too, so yes you should be able too with that setup. Even when i hit really deep bumps on the freeway i know it tucks up in there super far and never scrub or rub on anything.
what about your camber? im looking at 17X8 or 9 +35 with 235/40.. im planning on rolling the rears but what about the front and will i have to run more than 1 degree negative camber?

SHG_EasyE
08-15-2010, 04:39 AM
If im not mistaken the 17X7.5, +45 will rub the rear trailing arm, i have 17X7, +45 (05-06 Rsx Type S wheels) and the rear right wheel's inner rim is hella close to the rear trailing arm. If you want to run 17X7.5, go with a +35 to +40 offset to allow for clearance. Personally id go with the +40.



Ive got 17x7.5 +48 in the rear and there is no rubbing on the trailing arm even with fat 225 Dunlop Z1's

SHG_EasyE
08-15-2010, 04:41 AM
what about your camber? im looking at 17X8 or 9 +35 with 235/40.. im planning on rolling the rears but what about the front and will i have to run more than 1 degree negative camber?

When I was running 17x9 +35's with 235/40's I was fairly low and needed -3.6* to clear in the rear and 1-1.5 to clear in the front. Never had a rubbing issue with rolled rears and stock fronts.

.colin
08-15-2010, 06:45 AM
I have 17 x 7.5 et 48 w/ 225/45/17 dropped around 1.5 inches with mugen ss and I don't rub anywhere

DRP967
08-15-2010, 07:34 AM
Ive got 17x7.5 +48 in the rear and there is no rubbing on the trailing arm even with fat 225 Dunlop Z1's

Whats your camber/toe settings for the rear? I dont get it, i have 17X7, +45 and its real close already...i cant imagine how a 17X7.5, +48 with 225 tires would not rub. Maybe its cause my camber settings are so close to if not stock so thats why i have minimal space between the inner rim of the wheel and the trailing arm?

urthworm
08-15-2010, 08:50 AM
When I was running 17x9 +35's with 235/40's I was fairly low and needed -3.6* to clear in the rear and 1-1.5 to clear in the front. Never had a rubbing issue with rolled rears and stock fronts.
so you needed -3.6 and rolled fenders to clear the rear? or are you saying once you rolled the fenders you didnt have to run that much camber? -3 seems like alot and i dont want to burn through tires.

socmex7
08-15-2010, 01:03 PM
-3 seems like alot and i dont want to burn through tires.

camber does wear on tires, but toe is what shreds them more.

with the 17x8 +35's you'll be fine after the fender rolling and not have to run that much camber. or you could go with the 9's and not go that low. 27rocks doesnt look like he has -3 camber, but i could be wrong :msmile:

urthworm
08-15-2010, 01:49 PM
Man the first time i bought rims was easy! i just asked for 17s.. but now its all about offset, width, tire size, camber, flush.. hellaflush, staggered! what the hell happened?!! ive been looking everyday for months and cant make up my mind on what setup i want... i need help before i go crazy!!!

DRP967
08-15-2010, 02:41 PM
Man the first time i bought rims was easy! i just asked for 17s.. but now its all about offset, width, tire size, camber, flush.. hellaflush, staggered! what the hell happened?!! ive been looking everyday for months and cant make up my mind on what setup i want... i need help before i go crazy!!!

Decide the look your going for:

1. Heckaflush/aggresive ie. low offset, wide, strech, poke.

2. Sunken battleship ie the specs of the wheels are pretty much stock or higher offset.

*Theres also something in the middle, not to aggresive but not to sunk.

Personally i prefer the stock specs and just dump from there...basically slammed but no poke, no stretch tires, etc.

DRP967
08-15-2010, 02:58 PM
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4134/4856148910_cbf23b624b_b.jpg

*Look at the EP in the backgorund*

socmex7
08-15-2010, 03:09 PM
Man the first time i bought rims was easy! i just asked for 17s.. but now its all about offset, width, tire size, camber, flush.. hellaflush, staggered! what the hell happened?!! ive been looking everyday for months and cant make up my mind on what setup i want... i need help before i go crazy!!!

a lot has to do with what you want to do with the car. DD just throw some 17's with a +45 offset, nothing crazy on the width and call it a day. people do go to the extremes of what their car can physically handle for show. almost all those people that i know do not DD those wheels or do not drive the cars a lot in a given day. they're for show. or you can go the route of shy, 27 rocks, hondafreak, guardian, etc and go for width in the wheels but put wide tires to compliment them as they seem to be more performance oriented in their wheel set-ups. start with what you want for the car, then play with fitments... it'll save a lot of wasted time calculating what fits on wheels that you eventually don't look into.. my .02

edit: hey myspace, any specs on that dc5? def feelin how it sits..

urthworm
08-15-2010, 05:01 PM
its not my dd but i like to say it is.... i really want a track/street racing setup that stands out. It seems as though the 17x8 +35 with 235/40 would be the best way to go... but i really like the way the rev staggered set up looks. and its def not a show car.. i race the shit out of her every chance i get. and i dont really care to be slammed, the ride height i have now is perfect for me. http://www.mediafire.com/i/?qwdi4t5mxym

urthworm
08-15-2010, 05:02 PM
... still trying to figure out how to post pics. but that is the ride height im a now.

SHG_EasyE
08-15-2010, 05:37 PM
... still trying to figure out how to post pics. but that is the ride height im a now.

Just put around the url and it will show as a picture.


And guys, can you please stop calling it "reverse stagger"...

Its simply the correct way you stagger wheels on a FWD car. The hella flush hypebeast crap is technically "reverse stagger" because it is the opposite of a functional setup.

.colin
08-15-2010, 06:07 PM
Just put around the url and it will show as a picture.


And guys, can you please stop calling it "reverse stagger"...

Its simply the correct way you stagger wheels on a FWD car. The hella flush hypebeast crap is technically "reverse stagger" because it is the opposite of a functional setup.

lol

DRP967
08-15-2010, 06:39 PM
a lot has to do with what you want to do with the car. DD just throw some 17's with a +45 offset, nothing crazy on the width and call it a day. people do go to the extremes of what their car can physically handle for show. almost all those people that i know do not DD those wheels or do not drive the cars a lot in a given day. they're for show. or you can go the route of shy, 27 rocks, hondafreak, guardian, etc and go for width in the wheels but put wide tires to compliment them as they seem to be more performance oriented in their wheel set-ups. start with what you want for the car, then play with fitments... it'll save a lot of wasted time calculating what fits on wheels that you eventually don't look into.. my .02

edit: hey myspace, any specs on that dc5? def feelin how it sits..


its not my dd but i like to say it is.... i really want a track/street racing setup that stands out. It seems as though the 17x8 +35 with 235/40 would be the best way to go... but i really like the way the rev staggered set up looks. and its def not a show car.. i race the shit out of her every chance i get. and i dont really care to be slammed, the ride height i have now is perfect for me. http://www.mediafire.com/i/?qwdi4t5mxym


Just put around the url and it will show as a picture.


And guys, can you please stop calling it "reverse stagger"...

Its simply the correct way you stagger wheels on a FWD car. The hella flush hypebeast crap is technically "reverse stagger" because it is the opposite of a functional setup.

1. Socmex, i have no idea. Just found the image on bing when i was looking for slammed EP3s.

2. If you want the track/street set up, then follow the footsteps of that hondafreak aka Christian dude, SHG_EasyE , and others who choose function and form...or maybe its all function cause sometimes functional does not look visually appealing but thats an opinion. Im partial to Enkei RPF1s because i ordered a set but they are affordable, lightweight, strong, available in a host of sizes, and have a classic "race" look to em...heck they are very popular for racing and street use and for all the reasons and more that i mentioned. You want your EP3 to look and perform like a circuit queen? Cop a set of RPf1s or any other race wheel, have a functional ride height, and keep the car clean ie no useless crap.

3. I was never a fan of stagger on a FWD...always thought it looked kinda awkward vs. stagger for a RWD...but now im starting to like the look. I seen a clean satin black JDM front Integra with bright silver RPF1s (stagger set up) and a circuit hero banner on the windshield...thing was clean as hell and just looked a like daily driver that could hang on the track. Maybe thats the look you can go for? If you want to be like those hellaflush cars you can go that route to, just like Socmex suggested find out the look/performance/etc you wanna achieve then go from there.

socmex7
08-15-2010, 07:01 PM
1. Socmex, i have no idea. Just found the image on bing when i was looking for slammed EP3s.


damn.. haha. i love how dc5's can fit such wide wheel/tire fitments with only a slight roll.. damn we got shafted. both motor-wise and fender clearance-wise :mfrown:

eitehr way, my next set i buy i just can't decide on whether i want my rpf's like 27 rocks with 9's all the way around or if i want to stagger them like SHG. decisions decisions..

urthworm
08-15-2010, 08:18 PM
Thanks guys.. alot of good advice. Now just one more question, anyone know what a good stagger size would be for our cars? Wheel and tire sizes? and I am looking to do rpf1s.

DRP967
08-15-2010, 09:13 PM
damn.. haha. i love how dc5's can fit such wide wheel/tire fitments with only a slight roll.. damn we got shafted. both motor-wise and fender clearance-wise :mfrown:

eitehr way, my next set i buy i just can't decide on whether i want my rpf's like 27 rocks with 9's all the way around or if i want to stagger them like SHG. decisions decisions..


Thanks guys.. alot of good advice. Now just one more question, anyone know what a good stagger size would be for our cars? Wheel and tire sizes? and I am looking to do rpf1s.

1. lol shafted in that respect. But then again i see it as a blessing in these hard times that i only need to put 87 in the EP3...sames me some dough. My friends with DC5s definately have more fender clearance, but the way i see your gonna roll anyways. Oh damn your copping some RPF1s to, good sh!t. I like both their set ups, cant go wrong with either imo. :mcool:

2. Another potential RPF1 owner...the familia just keeps getting bigger and bigger haha. :mbiggrin:
I would like to know about the stagger sizes as well. As for me i went with the stock set up when i ordered my RPF1s. 17X7, +45...hellasunk yo! well kinda haha.

27rocks
08-15-2010, 11:45 PM
camber does wear on tires, but toe is what shreds them more.

With the 17x8 +35's you'll be fine after the fender rolling and not have to run that much camber. Or you could go with the 9's and not go that low. 27rocks doesnt look like he has -3 camber, but i could be wrong :msmile:
Close lol
f: -3.2 r: -2.8

verseone
08-16-2010, 11:21 AM
oops.

MajorJones
08-16-2010, 09:42 PM
Test fit: 16x8 195/50 stretched with +0 offset -6 camber (looks way more intense in picture) With the 0 offset, the rear was poking out about a 1/2 inch. i didn't just rub i cut/burn the tires down and yes i did roll the fenders and all. i wanna try a -3.5 to see if im still tucked inside the fender

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x240/StraightEpPower/fb593844-1.jpg

SHG_EasyE
08-17-2010, 07:20 AM
^ Yikes

socmex7
08-17-2010, 10:46 AM
all that camber makes it look like someone picked up your car, dropped it, and broke all the suspension pieces.

i miss Jono's posts :mfrown:

socmex7
08-17-2010, 10:57 AM
and myspacep3, i thought that milano red ep looked familiar! it's Mini-Oddyssey05's ride..
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o154/chink00/4728788665_28eed50812_b.jpg

link:
http://www.ephatch.com/forum/showthread.php?47871-Mini-Odyssey05-Milano-Red-EP3-Sunrise-FL

DRP967
08-17-2010, 02:04 PM
Socmex, thats one nice ep3, nice to see more pics of it.

socmex7
08-17-2010, 02:59 PM
weird how the purple kinda works with the red..

DRP967
08-17-2010, 03:12 PM
weird how the purple kinda works with the red..

Yeah it kind of just meshes...instead of clashes. Although i think those wheels with a black center would have looked better.

DrZfInEsT
08-22-2010, 02:17 PM
Test fit: 16x8 195/50 stretched with +0 offset -6 camber (looks way more intense in picture) With the 0 offset, the rear was poking out about a 1/2 inch. i didn't just rub i cut/burn the tires down and yes i did roll the fenders and all. i wanna try a -3.5 to see if im still tucked inside the fender

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x240/StraightEpPower/fb593844-1.jpg
Wowzers!!

DrZfInEsT
08-22-2010, 02:18 PM
Just put around the url and it will show as a picture.


And guys, can you please stop calling it "reverse stagger"...

Its simply the correct way you stagger wheels on a FWD car. The hella flush hypebeast crap is technically "reverse stagger" because it is the opposite of a functional setup.
True story.

ep3jd
08-23-2010, 09:42 AM
Test fit: 16x8 195/50 stretched with +0 offset -6 camber (looks way more intense in picture) With the 0 offset, the rear was poking out about a 1/2 inch. i didn't just rub i cut/burn the tires down and yes i did roll the fenders and all. i wanna try a -3.5 to see if im still tucked inside the fender

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x240/StraightEpPower/fb593844-1.jpg

holy fucking shit. that looks ridiculous. and i like the lowoffset stretch poke camber bullshit.. wow


and what the fuck are those black dots on your hatch

SHG_EasyE
08-23-2010, 12:11 PM
Haha ep3jd gets right to the point!

jed_averill
08-23-2010, 12:14 PM
Ep3 vip

verseone
08-25-2010, 10:04 AM
Anybody running a 17x7.5 +30 or +25? Thinking about getting spacers for my wheels...they are +40, might go with 10 or 15mm...tire size is 215/45/17. Any ideas/pics??

27rocks
08-25-2010, 11:21 AM
Anybody running a 17x7.5 +30 or +25? Thinking about getting spacers for my wheels...they are +40, might go with 10 or 15mm...tire size is 215/45/17. Any ideas/pics??

If you are going to run anythign more than a 5mm spacer you should get longer studs too. It's far more of a hasle to replace everything than buying the wheel with the correct offset.
If you are planing on buying the type of spacers that you bolt on and come with studs they might not work. I believe that your original studs might still be to long even with a 15mm spacer not allowing you to put your wheel back on.
So if i were you i would do one of two things:
1. Only use a 5mm spacer
2. Buy the correct wheel size.

Hope this helps you.

PatrickJamesYu
08-25-2010, 11:42 AM
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x240/StraightEpPower/fb593844-1.jpg

Damnn
-6 degree's and not hella flush?
let that fender rest on your stretched-poked-camber-0offset set up!
hah

verseone
08-25-2010, 12:16 PM
If you are going to run anythign more than a 5mm spacer you should get longer studs too. It's far more of a hasle to replace everything than buying the wheel with the correct offset.
If you are planing on buying the type of spacers that you bolt on and come with studs they might not work. I believe that your original studs might still be to long even with a 15mm spacer not allowing you to put your wheel back on.
So if i were you i would do one of two things:
1. Only use a 5mm spacer
2. Buy the correct wheel size.

Hope this helps you.


Thanks, theres no way i'd run more than 5mm w/o extended studs. I wouldnt even run 5mm w/stock studs. I'm thinking about getting H&R or Ichiba spacers, theyre both hubcentric and come with studs. Just more curious about how it would look and what kind of fender/rubbing issues i may have before i pull the trigger. Just seeing if anyone on here has already done the work... Thanks for your help.

Heitzke
08-25-2010, 02:50 PM
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x240/StraightEpPower/fb593844-1.jpg

Hey man, your wheel is crooked.

ep3jd
08-25-2010, 03:10 PM
Haha ep3jd gets right to the point!

it looks like it got stepped on

SHG_EasyE
08-25-2010, 05:53 PM
Haha totally reminds me of a toy car that got stepped on and broke the wheels off.

ShadowEP3
08-25-2010, 06:04 PM
thats just too much


reminds me of this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/ZaphodForty2/HellaFlushPD.jpg


*edit:
i just noticed the popo car is toohellaflush too :tehe:

BryanK
08-25-2010, 06:27 PM
holy fucking shit. that looks ridiculous. and i like the lowoffset stretch poke camber bullshit.. wow


and what the fuck are those black dots on your hatch

$10 says its from a mid hatch spoiler

ep3jd
08-26-2010, 08:09 PM
Haha totally reminds me of a toy car that got stepped on and broke the wheels off.

i saw a lexus with so much negative camber that he actually had stickers on the tread of his wheels because the area is no where near the contact patch haha


$10 says its from a mid hatch spoiler

oh god, i didn't even know they made one for ep3s, that sucks. at least he took it off... or maybe he's just about to put it on!!!!

DirtyEP3
08-27-2010, 10:29 PM
Ok i want most meet in the car with the least amount modding(camber, rolling fender etc...) i just got 17x8 + 34 volks will 225/45-17 work? or do i need to stretch the tire with a 215/45?

PatrickJamesYu
08-27-2010, 11:20 PM
How low are you?
To me it sounds like you'll need to stretch
But I'm noob with wheels

socmex7
08-28-2010, 01:59 AM
you could stretch tires to make them fit or just roll the rears and run the 225's.. plus you have the option of running wider tires in the future. my .02

Kentoneseboi
08-28-2010, 02:37 AM
Anybody running a 17x7.5 +30 or +25? Thinking about getting spacers for my wheels...they are +40, might go with 10 or 15mm...tire size is 215/45/17. Any ideas/pics??

im running +23 and +30 offset on 18's =\ if that helps

DirtyEP3
08-28-2010, 04:42 PM
How low are you?
To me it sounds like you'll need to stretch
But I'm noob with wheels

About 2.3 in drop on tein flex.


you could stretch tires to make them fit or just roll the rears and run the 225's.. plus you have the option of running wider tires in the future. my .02

so with 225's i will have to roll the back for sure?

NickL
09-07-2010, 02:29 PM
17x7.5 +45 tucking a bit all the way around on racelands. Will this rub suspension components at all and what size tire should I run to avoid fender work? Thanks

urthworm
09-07-2010, 06:25 PM
17x7.5 +45 tucking a bit all the way around on racelands. Will this rub suspension components at all and what size tire should I run to avoid fender work? Thanks
i have 17x7.5 +45 with 235/40 and about a finger gap in front and rear i rub on hard turns (rear) with two in the cab. no rubbing on suspension.

urthworm
09-07-2010, 06:42 PM
Getting my new rims tomorrow.. rpf1 17x9 +35 front 17x8 +45 rear. My question is will my 235/40 star specs stretch on the 17x9? they only have 4k on them and i dont want to buy 245 just yet. and also once i do buy new would 245/40 front and 225/45 rear work or is there a better set up to go with? Did alot or research and this is what ive come up with but im open for suggesions. thanks.

shaaberr
09-08-2010, 10:30 AM
thinking about getting a 15x7.5 +20mm dropped on tanabe sustec pros about 2.5. was wondering what size tire i should get and would i rub? any suggestions i would appreciate. pm me!

willy_akino
09-10-2010, 02:37 AM
rpf1 16x8 et 38 205/50 ziex

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs215.ash2/47790_428415515815_768760815_4902749_2112750_n.jpg

bchaney
09-10-2010, 08:23 AM
Def some nice setups in this thread. A lot of ppl aren't listing their drops or camber settings tho.

I'm looking to get the widest tires possible on my ep without messing w camber too much (like out of honda spec). My drop is 1.5" on sportlines.

16 or 17 inch wheels with decent tire selection. So far I'm thinkin 235/40R17 or 225/50R16.

It sounds like the rear is the biggest issue. Anyone able to fit 235s back there w/o camber modification? I'm cool w rolling my fenders.

I may consider staggered wheels if I can't fit some wide rubber in back.

DRP967
09-10-2010, 08:31 AM
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4112/4964758634_2137a21d9b_z.jpg

Wheels: Enkei RPF1 (Bright Silver)
17X7, 5X114.3, +45 MM

Tires: Toyo Extensa HP
215/45/17

Drop: 2 1/2 - 3 inches *rear fenders rolled*

Alignment settings: OEM specs

zoko
09-10-2010, 09:41 AM
Looks real good

urthworm
09-10-2010, 11:24 AM
just tried putting my rpf1 17x9 +35 on and they arent fitting over my rotora bbs..... anyone know wtf? i notice panda (sorry 27 rocks) has rotoras... did i over look something or what? please help.. thanks.

bchaney
09-10-2010, 04:16 PM
Def some nice setups in this thread. A lot of ppl aren't listing their drops or camber settings tho.

I'm looking to get the widest tires possible on my ep without messing w camber too much (like out of honda spec). My drop is 1.5" on sportlines.

16 or 17 inch wheels with decent tire selection. So far I'm thinkin 235/40R17 or 225/50R16.

It sounds like the rear is the biggest issue. Anyone able to fit 235s back there w/o camber modification? I'm cool w rolling my fenders.

I may consider staggered wheels if I can't fit some wide rubber in back.

I guess what I'm asking is - what is the widest tire that will fit in the front and what is the widest tire that will fit in the rear with a 1.5" drop and 0deg camber? R16 or 17

27rocks
09-10-2010, 04:21 PM
just tried putting my rpf1 17x9 +35 on and they arent fitting over my rotora bbs..... anyone know wtf? i notice panda (sorry 27 rocks) has rotoras... did i over look something or what? please help.. thanks.

Mine fit without any mods or problems. Where are they hitting?

urthworm
09-11-2010, 05:14 PM
So this is my new set up.. enkei rpf1 (obviously) 17x9 +35 front and 17x8 +45 rear.. 235/40 all around for now and camber is no more than 1.5 front and rear... still needs adjustment cause it rubs on hard turns and hard bumps. Fenders are not rolled yet. Also had to shave about 1mm off the corner of my rotoras to make them fit.. pretty lame and ghetto but did what i had to do to make it work.

Props to 27rocks for the quick reply!

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e74/vwright01/Picture208.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e74/vwright01/Picture207.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e74/vwright01/Picture209.jpg

Tortoise
09-11-2010, 06:03 PM
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4112/4964758634_2137a21d9b_z.jpg

Wheels: Enkei RPF1 (Bright Silver)
17X7, 5X114.3, +45 MM

Tires: Toyo Extensa HP
215/45/17

Drop: 2 1/2 - 3 inches *rear fenders rolled*

Alignment settings: OEM specs

wowww i really shoulda saved hte extra money and got rpf1s. Your car looks amazing man.

powdbyrice
09-11-2010, 06:46 PM
[IMG]http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4112/4964758634_2137a21d9b_z.jpg[IMG]

Wheels: Enkei RPF1 (Bright Silver)
17X7, 5X114.3, +45 MM

Tires: Toyo Extensa HP
215/45/17

Drop: 2 1/2 - 3 inches *rear fenders rolled*

Alignment settings: OEM specs

not even HFP specs?

ep3egg
09-11-2010, 11:52 PM
your car is so clean. i like your wheels and specs too.

what kind of lugnuts? spacers?

.colin
09-12-2010, 07:21 AM
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e74/vwright01/Picture207.jpg


loving this setup, really aggressive man

SHG_EasyE
09-12-2010, 08:54 AM
just tried putting my rpf1 17x9 +35 on and they arent fitting over my rotora bbs..... anyone know wtf? i notice panda (sorry 27 rocks) has rotoras... did i over look something or what? please help.. thanks.

I had to shave my stoptechs a little bit, they fit but just by a hair, so I machined them a bit for a little extra room.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4119/4937391861_833fb1c933_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4102/4937391787_8b22b99434_b.jpg

.colin
09-12-2010, 09:25 AM
anyone know if i can run a 25 mm spacer on a 17 x 7.5 with an offest of 48 and a 225/45 tire with a 1.5" drop without having to roll my front fenders? I know in the back ill rub i'm just talking about doing this upfront.

dirtyMETHOD
09-12-2010, 09:47 AM
Haha ep3jd gets right to the point!

yeah he did.. What are those dots?

urthworm
09-12-2010, 09:48 AM
I had to shave my stoptechs a little bit, they fit but just by a hair, so I machined them a bit for a little extra room.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4119/4937391861_833fb1c933_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4102/4937391787_8b22b99434_b.jpg

thats exactly what i had to do to my brakes... same place and everything, wouldnt have thought the brakes would be to big for a 17x9.

DRP967
09-12-2010, 12:29 PM
Looks real good


wowww i really shoulda saved hte extra money and got rpf1s. Your car looks amazing man.


not even HFP specs?

1. Thanks zoko!

2. Thanks Tortoise! What wheels did you get? I spent $850 for my RPF1s, feeling good i didnt break the bank. :)

3. What do you mean by HFP specs? I know HFP is Honda Factory Performance. My approach was to keep the wheels/tires as close to stock specs as possible so 17X7, +45 with 215/45/17 tires.

DRP967
09-12-2010, 12:34 PM
your car is so clean. i like your wheels and specs too.

what kind of lugnuts? spacers?

Not sure if your referring to me but if you are thanks.
No spacers, lug nuts are Blox Street Series Forged extended in black color.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs381.snc4/44423_137960699580583_100000999623913_200749_45353 31_n.jpg

powdbyrice
09-12-2010, 03:47 PM
1. Thanks zoko!

2. Thanks Tortoise!

3. What do you mean by HFP specs? I know HFP is Honda Factory Performance. My approach was to keep the wheels/tires as close to stock specs as possible so 17X7, +45 with 215/45/17 tires.
Hfp alignment specs are different than the oem specs.

DRP967
09-12-2010, 03:49 PM
Hfp alignment specs are different than the oem specs.

Oh i i thought you were referring to HFP specs as in wheel size/width/offset/etc.

ep3egg
09-12-2010, 04:12 PM
Not sure if your referring to me but if you are thanks.
No spacers, lug nuts are Blox Street Series Forged extended in black color.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs381.snc4/44423_137960699580583_100000999623913_200749_45353 31_n.jpg

yes i was referring to u. your fitment is awesome!

DRP967
09-12-2010, 04:51 PM
yes i was referring to u. your fitment is awesome!

Thanks! Everyone thinks they are 16s, must be the big ass lip. :P

urthworm
09-12-2010, 06:52 PM
Thanks! Everyone thinks they are 16s, must be the big ass lip. :P

Very nice setup.. almost went with the same size but decided to go stagger.. mainly because i fell for the look and for my type of driving it made sense. But the rears look like 16s and the fronts look way bigger.

DRP967
09-13-2010, 05:53 AM
Very nice setup.. almost went with the same size but decided to go stagger.. mainly because i fell for the look and for my type of driving it made sense. But the rears look like 16s and the fronts look way bigger.

Thanks, i was about to go staggered but decided against it. What size wheels do you have?

SHG_EasyE
09-13-2010, 06:25 AM
anyone know if i can run a 25 mm spacer on a 17 x 7.5 with an offest of 48 and a 225/45 tire with a 1.5" drop without having to roll my front fenders? I know in the back ill rub i'm just talking about doing this upfront.

You will be fine, theres tons of room up there to fit some crazy shit :P


yeah he did.. What are those dots?

What dots?


thats exactly what i had to do to my brakes... same place and everything, wouldnt have thought the brakes would be to big for a 17x9.

Yeah man I think its just the design of the RPF1. The spot on the wheels where the spokes start protrudes which intrudes on space inside the wheel barrell. I know there are other wheels that dont have this that would have fit the brakes fine.

urthworm
09-13-2010, 09:03 AM
Thanks, i was about to go staggered but decided against it. What size wheels do you have?

17x9 +35 front and 17x8 +45 rear.. 235/40 all the way around.

.colin
09-13-2010, 09:12 AM
You will be fine, theres tons of room up there to fit some crazy shit :P





cool, will i clear with only -.5 camber in the front?

DRP967
09-13-2010, 09:20 AM
17x9 +35 front and 17x8 +45 rear.. 235/40 all the way around.

Nice set up. :)

DirtyEP3
09-13-2010, 09:44 AM
I posted earlier, but i can confirm 17x8 +34 with a 215/45-17 tire will clear the rears. its real tight but it clears. i would still suggest a fender rolling, as every car is different.

SHG_EasyE
09-13-2010, 12:58 PM
cool, will i clear with only -.5 camber in the front?


Yeah I think you should. This is my car with 17x9 +35 on 235-40-17 and -1.5 camber.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2326/3543735419_d53b25dbd5_z.jpg?zz=1

bchaney
09-14-2010, 02:47 PM
What do you guys think of 17x8 235/40s up front and 17x7 215/45s in the rear?

Should fit a 1.5" drop with no camber? What offsets should I look for?

powdbyrice
09-14-2010, 08:10 PM
+35f and +30r if you want the rear kinda flush...

DirtyEP3
09-15-2010, 08:53 PM
I posted earlier, but i can confirm 17x8 +34 with a 215/45-17 tire will clear the rears. its real tight but it clears. i would still suggest a fender rolling, as every car is different.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b117/dirtydoc/car%20pro%20shots/roller2.jpg

best ipic i have so far.

tsxdriver
09-16-2010, 01:26 AM
So I'm guessing then that a 17x8 +32 on 215/45/17 should be okay?

DirtyEP3
09-16-2010, 07:51 AM
Should be, you might need to roll the rears tho.

tsxdriver
09-16-2010, 08:36 AM
Haha, I'm not even dropped!

27rocks
09-16-2010, 09:13 AM
Haha, I'm not even dropped!

I thought you got rid of the Ep a while back. Welcome back man.

tsxdriver
09-16-2010, 09:33 AM
I thought you got rid of the Ep a while back. Welcome back man.

Yup, I did. But I recently bought another one!

27rocks
09-16-2010, 10:09 AM
Yup, I did. But I recently bought another one!

Nice, gald you're back in an Ep.

NGS
09-17-2010, 12:27 AM
215/45 wont fit in my ep :(

27rocks
09-17-2010, 08:52 AM
215/45 wont fit in my ep :(

What wont fit?

NGS
09-17-2010, 11:25 AM
What wont fit?

Tires :( they are too big and scratch my fender.... for example i can't turn without it scratching all my bumper IDKW, an it pisses me off because a friend of mine has the 215/50 and they fit perfectly he has tein springs, i have sportline.

o2ep3
10-25-2010, 06:55 PM
want to run 17x8 or a 16x8 whats a good wheel and tire to run. i had 225 45 16 on my last set on a 16x7 wheel but i want a wider wheel which is hard to find in 4 lug. suggestions on wheels and tire size. i wanted rpf 1 but seems they dont have them in 4x100

socmex7
10-25-2010, 10:21 PM
want to run 17x8 or a 16x8 whats a good wheel and tire to run. i had 225 45 16 on my last set on a 16x7 wheel but i want a wider wheel which is hard to find in 4 lug. suggestions on wheels and tire size. i wanted rpf 1 but seems they dont have them in 4x100

I've always loved how the 17x8 +35 wheels sit on our car. paired with either a 235/40 or a 225/45 tire with a nice drop and you're set. The problem is finding wheels in your bolt pattern. as for that I have no input. The benefits of being 5-lug.. Wish I could help. Maybe someone with a 4lug can chime in.. bump!

o2ep3
10-26-2010, 03:10 AM
I've always loved how the 17x8 +35 wheels sit on our car. paired with either a 235/40 or a 225/45 tire with a nice drop and you're set. The problem is finding wheels in your bolt pattern. as for that I have no input. The benefits of being 5-lug.. Wish I could help. Maybe someone with a 4lug can chime in.. bump!
thanks for the input i wish i had 5 lug

StevieBush
10-26-2010, 04:55 PM
I cant decide between the Volk monsters or enkei RS 4s (3 spoke).. Im goin for low and camber and the enkeis are wider i just cant decide..so input would be appreciated :)

02TWSI
10-27-2010, 01:04 AM
Incoming pics of 225/50/16 w/ 16x7 +40 Slipstreams on a Eibach Pro-Kit spring drop.... by next monday fosho.

88crx
10-27-2010, 06:31 PM
Yeah I think you should. This is my car with 17x9 +35 on 235-40-17 and -1.5 camber.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2326/3543735419_d53b25dbd5_z.jpg?zz=1

You running fender liners?

o2ep3
10-27-2010, 06:36 PM
Incoming pics of 225/50/16 w/ 16x7 +40 Slipstreams on a Eibach Pro-Kit spring drop.... by next monday fosho.

cant wait i love slips or sw388 on ep not to many ppl showing love for them

02TWSI
10-27-2010, 11:15 PM
My tires got here faster than the Camber kit could. Just waiting on that to put the tires on and get it aligned. I keep hearing im going to need my rears rolled though

27rocks
10-28-2010, 08:08 AM
My tires got here faster than the Camber kit could. Just waiting on that to put the tires on and get it aligned. I keep hearing im going to need my rears rolled though

yeah you will.. before my current set up i had 17x7.5 +40 with 225/45 and i need to roll to clear. But that was mainly cause i wanted minimal camber (~ -.5 to -.75). I would do it just because. There is nothing to loose in doing so, you only gain from it.

02TWSI
10-28-2010, 12:35 PM
my friend recommended just renting a roller and doing it myself, is it a hard process?

ep_hatcher_510
10-28-2010, 01:01 PM
rolling a fender is super easy, just remember to heat the area up and work slowly.

chiwhitesi
10-28-2010, 01:30 PM
has anyone fit a 235 on a 7.5in rim? any pics/specs does it need a roll?

ep_hatcher_510
10-28-2010, 02:18 PM
has anyone fit a 235 on a 7.5in rim? any pics/specs does it need a roll?


yeah you will.. before my current set up i had 17x7.5 +40 with 225/45 and i need to roll to clear. But that was mainly cause i wanted minimal camber (~ -.5 to -.75). I would do it just because. There is nothing to loose in doing so, you only gain from it.

^^ this pretty much answers your question.

chiwhitesi
10-28-2010, 02:27 PM
^^ this pretty much answers your question.

he said 225 not 235.. im sure that they are close but when i look at my wheel and tire calc is says that you need a 8in rim to fit a 235

urthworm
10-28-2010, 02:27 PM
I also had a 235/40 on a 17x7.5 +45 rim.. didnt have to roll the fenders at this height
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa147/dustyboner/butthole%20beaver%20bangers/DSC01820.jpg
but once i dropped it another 1/2 ish inch in the rear it rubbed with two people in the car going up hill on turns

maksym
10-28-2010, 03:00 PM
I also had a 235/40 on a 17x7.5 +45 rim.. didnt have to roll the fenders at this height
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa147/dustyboner/butthole%20beaver%20bangers/DSC01820.jpg
but once i dropped it another 1/2 ish inch in the rear it rubbed with two people in the car going up hill on turns\

How much were you dropped at the time this picture was taken?

ep_hatcher_510
10-28-2010, 03:30 PM
he said 225 not 235.. im sure that they are close but when i look at my wheel and tire calc is says that you need a 8in rim to fit a 235

Well, if he needs a roll at 225, then ur going probably need it too at a 235 tire, although it still depends on amount of camber, offset, height, and the profile of the tire as you didn't give enough info. 235 on a 7.5 wheels is fine.

urthworm
10-28-2010, 03:41 PM
\

How much were you dropped at the time this picture was taken?

about a 2" gap in the rear and a lil under 1 and 1/2 in the front. No camber adjustments to front or rear.

powdbyrice
10-28-2010, 04:14 PM
has anyone fit a 235 on a 7.5in rim? any pics/specs does it need a roll?

too vague of a question. its dependent on your drop.

but yes, 235/40/17 fits on a 7.5 wide wheel. i <3 my 235s

search for 235/40/17 and you should get pix.

27rocks
10-28-2010, 08:21 PM
Well, if he needs a roll at 225, then ur going probably need it too at a 235 tire, although it still depends on amount of camber, offset, height, and the profile of the tire as you didn't give enough info. 235 on a 7.5 wheels is fine.

Win!!

Yes i was simply saying that i had to roll on a 225, so if you want to go with a 235 then a roll is definitely a must.

SHG_EasyE
10-31-2010, 08:02 AM
You running fender liners?

Yup and I still am running them with the outer egdes slightly trimmed with the new setup...

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t131/sohonda_garage/P1080782.jpg

Rasy
11-01-2010, 01:59 PM
Looking at your car always makes me want to run much wider tires than the 205s I have now.

02TWSI
11-01-2010, 07:17 PM
yeah pretty much...that's why I'm taking baby steps, first off came the 195s...then off came the 205s....next thing is conquer the 225 and move on from there :P

PatrickJamesYu
11-06-2010, 04:08 PM
How do you think 205-45-16 Nitto Neo Gens will be on 16x8 wheels?
I'm looking for a low offset w/ a decent amount of neg camber.

I'm on 205-55-15 on my 03 stocks currently

SHG_EasyE
11-07-2010, 12:00 AM
Honestly what you really want for an 8" wheel is a 225 but if you already have the 205's might as well wear them out before getting new rubbers. They will fit but will have a decent amount of stretch.

PatrickJamesYu
11-07-2010, 01:45 AM
Whats 215 like on an 8inch wheel?
Not much of a stretch?

SHG_EasyE
11-07-2010, 07:08 AM
still going to be a bit stretched. It depends what tire youre going to run. They all have different actual widths for the size 215. But I think a 215 would be acceptable on an 8" wheel if thats your thing. I wouldnt go narrower than that.

1fasthb
11-08-2010, 11:46 AM
17x9.75 +25offset can this work for the front and back? also i know i will need to roll the fenders and camber the shit out as well but just wondering how close am i goin to be if possible thanks

SHG_EasyE
11-08-2010, 05:38 PM
17x9.75 +25offset can this work for the front and back? also i know i will need to roll the fenders and camber the shit out as well but just wondering how close am i goin to be if possible thanks

What are they custom barrels or something? The rear will be retarded, dont do it.

Alex857
11-08-2010, 06:34 PM
thats a crazy low offset. My bud had +24 on his new si, i mounted em up just for shits. looked dumb..waaayy too much poke, not to mention first bump youd buckle a fender or two

1fasthb
11-08-2010, 07:31 PM
seen ep's with 17x9.5 +14offset's in the back b4 i didnt think the +.25 more in the width would make that much of a difference

Alex857
11-08-2010, 07:50 PM
it doesnt seem like it, but its a bit. its all in what your into. I think its horribly excessive lol but to each his own

SHG_EasyE
11-09-2010, 05:19 AM
seen ep's with 17x9.5 +14offset's in the back b4 i didnt think the +.25 more in the width would make that much of a difference

When I had 17x9's on the back of my car I hated it because they just didnt fit and had to be cambered in to clear. Just looks goofy IMO. With a wheel with those specs youre probably looking at 5* of camber in the back. Have fun with that.

1fasthb
11-09-2010, 07:25 AM
i only drive my car like 5miles a day if that, and dont race my car ever or even track it b/c there is no tracks around me

PatrickJamesYu
11-09-2010, 02:56 PM
Someone running 16x8 +0
post pics!
pleaseee

SHG_EasyE
11-09-2010, 05:27 PM
i only drive my car like 5miles a day if that, and dont race my car ever or even track it b/c there is no tracks around me

To each his own, Just saying I dont like that super cambered look. I dont understand why people think bigger wheels and more camber on the rear looks good a fwd. If it were the same fitment/camber front and rear then thats one thing. But every time you see someone running a "hella flush" setup on an EP they dont bother to spend the time and money to camber in the fronts to get an even looking fitment front to rear.

Example of stupid fitment:

http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/Mike%20Garrett/1December/Snap/ep3.jpg

Here is how "flush" fitment should be executed:

http://www.honda-tech.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=79685&stc=1&d=1256147126

27rocks
11-09-2010, 10:30 PM
^^ lol i totally agree with you on that. My car doesn't look to bad cause i'm not slammed so i can get away with less camber than most with wide wheels (another reason why im running 245's instead of something less). I also run almost -.5 of more camber in the front then the rear which makes the car look like it makes sense (and -2.8 in the rear is not even that much).
Another thing you guys have to remember is the fact that those guys stagger the wheels, so even if they had the same camber the front wheels would disappear in the front fender.

Oh and btw the bottom pick is considered poke fitment..
Flush is this my friend::mbiggrin: just sayin
http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/AntonioAlvendia/Japan/Nakai%20Rough%20World/IMG_2353%20copy.jpg
http://playthepart.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/rauhwelt2.jpg
http://www.motormavens.com/emAlbum/albums/Antonio%20Alvendia/Papercuts/0-60%20Magazine/_fullsize/IMG_4106-RAUH-WELT-PORSCHE-911-copy.jpg

Sucka
12-12-2010, 08:49 PM
BACK FROM THE DEAD!

Will 17 X 8.5 +30 Offset work for our ep's? How much negative camber will we need?

27rocks
12-12-2010, 09:51 PM
BACK FROM THE DEAD!

Will 17 X 8.5 +30 Offset work for our ep's? How much negative camber will we need?

That is basically the exact same as a 17x9 +35.. Depending on tire with and ride hight you are lookig at -2.5 to -4 of camber in the rear.

Sucka
12-14-2010, 08:06 PM
That is basically the exact same as a 17x9 +35.. Depending on tire with and ride hight you are lookig at -2.5 to -4 of camber in the rear.

oh ok Thanks!