Raceland Coilover Suspension

[TigerBallZ]

Daytime quick shots
The rear will be raised up a little to even it out. I also need a camber kit now haha.

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[K20wagon]

Its good to see that these cheap coilovers are actually a nice set of coilovers and can last a good while just like the expensive ones. I was actually wanting to get these but was kinda worried cause of the price but this is a good thread. When ever I get the cash I am going to get a set of these and slam my ep.

[skoo74]

whao.. that is dumpt!

[karxarias]

Got these installed and I must say I've very happy with how they ride. That being said what I found out the hard way after ordering is that the minimum drop, at least from what my shop told me, is like 1.5". Unfortunately this much of a drop threw out my toe settings in the front and camber settings in the rear.

They were eventually able to correct the toe out in the front but apparently I'm running out of threads on the tie-rod ends and have to purchase new ones. I've done a lot of research into this and basically the only proper option that isn't a cheap POS if you are running EP3-specific coilovers is J's racing tie-rod ends which run like $400. It is also going to cost me at least $150 or more to get a camber kit for the rear.

Just wanted to make people aware that it seems like these suckers are a wicked deal at $300 or whatever but do realize that if you don't want your car to eat tires and potentially have your tie-rods ends come apart which will make you unable to steer (or at least unable to steer the wheel on the side that broke) you are looking at 3-5 hours of labour at a shop that knows what they are doing, 5+ hours labour for a shop that doesn't. At least $150 for a rear camber kit (ingall's preferred), longer tie-rod ends (j's racing $400 if you have EP3 specific coilovers, can use DC5 ($120-150) ones if RSX-S specific coilovers). You will also need an alignment which is probably going to run you another $100 or so.

[StevieBush]

I got mine on the other day and i love them..i dont have any noises and my toe was thrown off at first, but then i realized it was due to my destroyed tie rod ends lol so i love these coilovers..for now

[gtimportfanatic]

i am strongly considering these but i want to know why are they so damn cheap??? they are a german company wtf. im so dazzled by the price and the warranty but i'd be scared to take my car hard around turns unless i truly know the quality

wtf Dan.. i been running these since i saw u at Honda Day back in 09 lol.. they still on my car. i know one strut is blown but it still rides fine lol.

[AKEP]

just curious, do they build the coilovers to help compensate with the V shaped tie rods? or is it in the same location as stock? pics?

[PatrickJamesYu]

Just wanted to make people aware that it seems like these suckers are a wicked deal at $300 or whatever but do realize that if you don't want your car to eat tires and potentially have your tie-rods ends come apart which will make you unable to steer (or at least unable to steer the wheel on the side that broke) you are looking at 3-5 hours of labour at a shop that knows what they are doing, 5+ hours labour for a shop that doesn't. At least $150 for a rear camber kit (ingall's preferred), longer tie-rod ends (j's racing $400 if you have EP3 specific coilovers, can use DC5 ($120-150) ones if RSX-S specific coilovers). You will also need an alignment which is probably going to run you another $100 or so.

So that's about $800 on top of the $300 coilovers?
But isn't that $800 the same whether the coilovers are $1000 or $300?

You still (might) need new tie rod ends, camber kit, and an alignment?

In my eyes, it's still a deal

You get the same stance" at a price that will still be at least $600 less in products than the competitors

[jed_averill]

So are you saying you can't rock racelands unless you buy these "required" things? I mean are these things really really necessary for a DD (grandma style)?

[charles]

So are you saying you can't rock racelands unless you buy these "required" things? I mean are these things really really necessary for a DD (grandma style)?

all you really need is an alignment........... if you dont care about camber.

[MBaG]

all you really need is an alignment........... if you dont care about camber.

yup. all i needed was an alignment. everything is fine. i'm very happy with the drop & how it handles.

[dirtyMETHOD]

I think I am going to snatch up a set of these for the Spring. Get the Coilovers now and a set of new wheels later...

[Clutchsi]

I ordered a set of these last week and they will be here Monday. I will have them on hopefully by next weekend. When i did my clutch, the boots on the balljoints were gone so i am doing those too at the same time. New wheels will be on for next spring (17x8 +20)!!! I just have springs now with a blown strut, so im ready to get these on!

[jed_averill]

all you really need is an alignment........... if you dont care about camber.

Thank you.

[02TWSI]

Daytime quick shots
The rear will be raised up a little to even it out. I also need a camber kit now haha.

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So you have two EPs?

That thing is freakin DUMPED!

[TigerBallZ]

So you have two EPs?

That thing is freakin DUMPED!

Yep, 2 of these suckers. This black one is my daily now. I bought it back in May but just recently got it registered after I sold my other daily. It's a good thing the roads are fairly good in Mid-TN.

[02TWSI]

well props to you man, do you have any pics of your purple tie bar you could PM me? I wanted one of those but got the basic gold instead.

[clujalolo]

Tigerballz, what rims are those??? are they rota's? did u get them with the car?

i really want to get a set of those. i love them :p

[gamma6]

Im about to order me a set, (rokkor) since the rear is stiffer, but since they seem the same the precautions are to check for the clunking and something with the tophats? Can anyone elaborate?(in noob terms)

[MBaG]

how many of you guys did the DIY for stopping the clunk? my front driver side is clunking really bad, and it gets annoying.

[ZoomBoy]

how many of you guys did the DIY for stopping the clunk? my front driver side is clunking really bad, and it gets annoying.

My clunking has quited down a BIT once I got my car rust proofed, but I'm sure that will go away in a few weeks. It's so damn annoying, I'd like to know if anyone got decent results from the Clunking DIY, because if they didn't I'm dumping these coils.

[gamma6]

Im about to order me a set, (rokkor) since the rear is stiffer, but since they seem the same the precautions are to check for the clunking and something with the tophats? Can anyone elaborate?(in noob terms)

anyone??? i wanna get these sometime soon but am kinda worried of what i have to buy/do to avoid the horrible clunking and other issues they seem to be having... and also about the tophats/bearings...

[LvisDin]

Do Rokkors go lower than Racelands?

[gamma6]

Daytime quick shots
The rear will be raised up a little to even it out. I also need a camber kit now haha.

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damn dude how do u drive this thing, especially daily? i just installed my rokkors and im just above my tires on 205/40/16 (xxr 002's 0 offset) and i cant even go over speedbumps, im afraid im gonna have to raise her

[Paul_Wall]

Just bought a used set of racelands off of a buddy of mine. I just bought a Rim/Tire package and really dont want to rape my new tires in the rear. What camber kit do you guys recommend? I was browsing CorSport and found this Megan set for $100.

http://www.corsportusa.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=11555

[ep11]

I bought the race land coilover and got the clunking sound aswell... so fkn annoying as fk .... two weeks later I bought tein's thinking it was the racelands but I was wrong .. what I did was lube up the coil rubber pillow or whatever its called with brake lube since it was the only lube I had around .. it lasts like a month or two clunk free before it starts up again....

p.s
raceland in suckt for me...
But I still have them for just in case

[kale's blue ep3]

the black ep3 what wheels are those?

[blue2turbo]

Alright so I am planning on picking up a set of these to replace the 74k suspension on my car. I plan on buying the coilover kit, rear camber kit, and new top hats. Is there anything else that I am going to need to install these? I will not be slamming the car to the ground, I am going to lower it but I'm not looking to tuck tire or anything like that as this is going to be my daily driver. Anything else I would need?

[MBaG]

Alright so I am planning on picking up a set of these to replace the 74k suspension on my car. I plan on buying the coilover kit, rear camber kit, and new top hats. Is there anything else that I am going to need to install these? I will not be slamming the car to the ground, I am going to lower it but I'm not looking to tuck tire or anything like that as this is going to be my daily driver. Anything else I would need?

all i did was coilovers + alignment. camber kit is recommended, but not required. & i used my stock tophats, but i guess it'll only benefit if you have fresh ones.

[TigerBallZ]

damn dude how do u drive this thing, especially daily? i just installed my rokkors and im just above my tires on 205/40/16 (xxr 002's 0 offset) and i cant even go over speedbumps, im afraid im gonna have to raise her


the black ep3 what wheels are those?

The rears did rub the inner fender well on big bumps with the settings all the way down along with the crazy camber. TN roads are fairly good compared to the surrounding states that I have been in, so I don't have a problem driving it slam'd. I do have to slowly creep over speed bumps. I have hit plenty of dips and potholes, and it does ok.
The polished wheels are Nippon Racing F2 16x7 +40 w/225/45/16 BFG KDW2. Last Friday, I bought a set of used Gramlight 57c 17x7.5 +40 w/Yokohama Prada Spec2 205/40/17. The rear has been raised up a bit since the last pic, and I'm going to go up a little bit more plus the addition of a rear camber kit and alignment. The fronts are still all the way down. Btw, Nippons aren't for sale.
Quick pic

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[gtimportfanatic]

baller ass with 2 EP's lol.. shoulda hit u up when i was down at IA.. u drove by me but i was in my car chilln

[blue2turbo]

So I installed mine last night and everything is together and solid, I was wondering, how long do these take to settle? I have it set a little higher then I wanted it because I know it is going to settle slightly lower. If anyone has an idea of how long that takes, please let me know!

[gamma6]

The rears did rub the inner fender well on big bumps with the settings all the way down along with the crazy camber. TN roads are fairly good compared to the surrounding states that I have been in, so I don't have a problem driving it slam'd. I do have to slowly creep over speed bumps. I have hit plenty of dips and potholes, and it does ok.
The polished wheels are Nippon Racing F2 16x7 +40 w/225/45/16 BFG KDW2. Last Friday, I bought a set of used Gramlight 57c 17x7.5 +40 w/Yokohama Prada Spec2 205/40/17. The rear has been raised up a bit since the last pic, and I'm going to go up a little bit more plus the addition of a rear camber kit and alignment. The fronts are still all the way down. Btw, Nippons aren't for sale.
Quick pic

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u dont have any issues with rubbing on the piece holding together the bumper and fender together? thats the only spot i rub on and i dont wanna camber or raise it anymore any suggestions?

[1fasthb]

The rears did rub the inner fender well on big bumps with the settings all the way down along with the crazy camber. TN roads are fairly good compared to the surrounding states that I have been in, so I don't have a problem driving it slam'd. I do have to slowly creep over speed bumps. I have hit plenty of dips and potholes, and it does ok.
The polished wheels are Nippon Racing F2 16x7 +40 w/225/45/16 BFG KDW2. Last Friday, I bought a set of used Gramlight 57c 17x7.5 +40 w/Yokohama Prada Spec2 205/40/17. The rear has been raised up a bit since the last pic, and I'm going to go up a little bit more plus the addition of a rear camber kit and alignment. The fronts are still all the way down. Btw, Nippons aren't for sale.
Quick pic

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs586.ash2/150825_1719539956241_1470554795_31803465_4923285_n .jpg

why u post nippons are not for sale all the time lol, also what are nipon's like a cop off of spun/drag wheels for like 50bucks a wheel for the guys that cant buy rotas im guess'in?

[EP3Casas]

installing mine 2mro will post pics.

[ep3colin]

im getting mine tomorrow and prob will install same day

[02TWSI]

How's the ride for the people going from springs and stock shocks to these?

[EP3Casas]

Well i'm running an SPC front camber kit and D2 rear camber kit. All in in all the front is perfect for me(1 finger). The rear is too high(2.5 fingers), so 2mro: her ass goes lower, gets a new tie rod wnd because she needs surgery and and goes to the alignment shop. On Thursday she gets new rubber! great way to start off the year.

[TigerBallZ]

u dont have any issues with rubbing on the piece holding together the bumper and fender together? thats the only spot i rub on and i dont wanna camber or raise it anymore any suggestions?
I don't have any issues with that part. You got to consider you're offset is more aggressive than mine.


why u post nippons are not for sale all the time lol, also what are nipon's like a cop off of spun/drag wheels for like 50bucks a wheel for the guys that cant buy rotas im guess'in?
Believe or not, I get asked quite often. As cheap as it is, I guess it's hard to get a hold of it. I believe they made Nippons before Spun/Drag even came about. But it's all copy cats so it doesn't really matter.

Volk TE37 17x7.5 +40 205/40, custom finish

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[EP3Casas]

leveled the car out today and it looks great will post pics when i get my camera from the gf and after i wash the car.

[ep3jd]

all i did was coilovers + alignment. camber kit is recommended, but not required. & i used my stock tophats, but i guess it'll only benefit if you have fresh ones.

well yeah because you won't need a spring compressor to get your stock ones off lol

[ep3jd]

damn dude how do u drive this thing, especially daily? i just installed my rokkors and im just above my tires on 205/40/16 (xxr 002's 0 offset) and i cant even go over speedbumps, im afraid im gonna have to raise her


its the life, isnt it? lol


sorry for double post. im just lazy as shit.

[ep3colin]

How's the ride for the people going from springs and stock shocks to these?

feels similar to my stock shocks with tein s techs

[gamma6]

How's the ride for the people going from springs and stock shocks to these?

mine feel waaaayyyy better than my H&R springs with stock struts... I would bottom out all the time, i dont with the racelands tho... I love the ride

[gtimportfanatic]

dying to put my rears back on

[ct_EP3]

how low can i go without having to get a camber kit? i know if i wana slam it ill need one but at first i just want them on and a tad low, so would i absolutely need camber kit or can i wait?

[MBaG]

how low can i go without having to get a camber kit? i know if i wana slam it ill need one but at first i just want them on and a tad low, so would i absolutely need camber kit or can i wait?

you don't need a camber kit.. although you will go through tires much quicker.

[PatrickJamesYu]

how low can i go without having to get a camber kit? i know if i wana slam it ill need one but at first i just want them on and a tad low, so would i absolutely need camber kit or can i wait?

Well the front's have some room to adjust
the rears, if i remember correctly, can not be adjusted?
now that I write it, i feel it's wrong
someone correct me.

Camber you can think of as a mod to your car

do you want to go low and dial in the height of your vehicle?
Then you get coilovers to go low
and adjust the height of your vehicle.

Do you want to dial in the camber settings on your car?
Then you get a camber kit in order to do so.

Whether you get a camber kit is your decision
you don't need it to lower your car, you need it to adjust camber.

Ideally you would want to get it, to dial in your camber.
To basically zero it out, or do whatever you need to do, to make sure it's not all out of wack from the drop.

[gtimportfanatic]

how low can i go without having to get a camber kit? i know if i wana slam it ill need one but at first i just want them on and a tad low, so would i absolutely need camber kit or can i wait?

be kinda senseless to do it without.. cars gonna ride like shit and u cant get a proper alignment.. what part of CT r u from.. im in the hartford area n im rockin em.. hit me up if u need any advice or ne thing

[Ronnie]

Daytime quick shots
The rear will be raised up a little to even it out. I also need a camber kit now haha.

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fuck me! :shocked:
thats slammed
- is the rear all the way down?

[03Si757]

fuck me! :shocked:
thats slammed
- is the rear all the way down?

looks like my car when i first put these on lol, and it still had a little more to go

[ct_EP3]

be kinda senseless to do it without.. cars gonna ride like shit and u cant get a proper alignment.. what part of CT r u from.. im in the hartford area n im rockin em.. hit me up if u need any advice or ne thing
im in rocky hill, ive seen you around on ctvtec as well, ill deff hit you up if i need help cuz i seen youre car and i can tell you know wht yur doin.

and to the other guys thanks for the help as well, im guna start lookin around and savin up for both things now

[doubledouble]

Anyone have these set to a conservative drop i.e. 1.5" ? I'm on neuspeed springs + full lip kit and I'm laying frame over the slightest uneven surface and over speed bumps. I need a replacement..

[SiBoosting11]

can i get some inputs on the racelands coilovers? im looking to purchase soon and i dont have a clue on their performance and durability

[AUTiger]

not to be a dick, but you need to read through this thread. There are 27 pages of info

[TTownEP]

can i get some inputs on the racelands coilovers? im looking to purchase soon and i dont have a clue on their performance and durability

Hahaha, you're a funny guy!

[japanracah!]

this might be a silly question. could i buy racelands and say i got bored of them and started tracking. so i decided to swap out the shocks for adjustable shocks? could this be done? what would be needed to make it a fully adjustable kit? (after i get bored of them)

[ep3jd]

When you get bored you could throw them in the trash and buy real coilovers :mbiggrin:






I have racelands so don't think I'm being a dick lol

[monjarassi]

I have a question for ya raceland gurus, I have owned my coilovers for a yr now and just got my old shocks warrantied and definately feels and rides better. Now im looking into replacing the shitty springs with some swift springs and get let's see, 12k up front and 18k in the rear. Wat do ya think of this setup?

[27rocks]

I have a question for ya raceland gurus, I have owned my coilovers for a yr now and just got my old shocks warrantied and definately feels and rides better. Now im looking into replacing the shitty springs with some swift springs and get let's see, 12k up front and 18k in the rear. Wat do ya think of this setup?

That would be one of the worst ideas in the world!!!
You need to match the shock with the spring. Your car will be bouncing everywhere because the shocks are to weak to work at the same speed as the springs.

[monjarassi]

That would be one of the worst ideas in the world!!!
You need to match the shock with the spring. Your car will be bouncing everywhere because the shocks are to weak to work at the same speed as the springs.

Thanks for the insight, so wat spec sound more subtle for drag racing setup??

[27rocks]

This i am not very familiar with.. I don't drag race cars nor have i even attempted to do it in a fwd car which is ass backwards for that lol. I would assume you would need a stiffer rear set up then the front just so the load doesn't transfer to the back as easy and also have the front slightly lower then the back for the same reasons. That's just my guess though....

[monjarassi]

I agree on that aswell, thanks for the word.

[japanracah!]

When you get bored you could throw them in the trash and buy real coilovers :mbiggrin:






I have racelands so don't think I'm being a dick lol

haha are they really that bad?

[27rocks]

haha are they really that bad?

YES!! A stock Ep would win around a track then one with these on it.

[1fasthb]

this might be a silly question. could i buy racelands and say i got bored of them and started tracking. so i decided to swap out the shocks for adjustable shocks? could this be done? what would be needed to make it a fully adjustable kit? (after i get bored of them)

then u bought the wrong car sadly ep's are turd's like 120hp stock slowness neeed atleast 20k in the motor to even be half ass fast sadly, just slamm it and look good and make it just your DD

[gamma6]

YES!! A stock Ep would win around a track then one with these on it.


then u bought the wrong car sadly ep's are turd's like 120hp stock slowness neeed atleast 20k in the motor to even be half ass fast sadly, just slamm it and look good and make it just your DD

thats what the racelands are for!!! i wouldnt track with them on... but they do make the car look good

[ep3jd]

then u bought the wrong car sadly ep's are turd's like 120hp stock slowness neeed atleast 20k in the motor to even be half ass fast sadly, just slamm it and look good and make it just your DD

Kpro-800 used
K24a2 -1800-2100
Jrsc--1800 ish used
Lsd-800
Good rubber-350
Tune-500
Good suspension set up + the necessities
You're looking at a lot less then 20k
Don't hate on the ep TOO much

[27rocks]

What kind of good rubber is only $350??? I wanna know cause thats a steal lol.

[ep3jd]

For two, not four. Looked at it more as a straight line "fast" then the actual fun kind of fast that you partake in lol

[1fasthb]

Kpro-800 used
K24a2 -1800-2100
Jrsc--1800 ish used
Lsd-800
Good rubber-350
Tune-500
Good suspension set up + the necessities
You're looking at a lot less then 20k
Don't hate on the ep TOO much

lol im not bashin what so ever i have owned me ep since 02

[PatrickJamesYu]

What kind of good rubber is only $350??? I wanna know cause thats a steal lol.

+1
What tires??
Sunny's? haha

[1fasthb]

when ppl say the took the colar off what does this mean btw like taking the adjustable sleeve off the coil over?

[ep3jd]

+1
What tires??
Sunny's? haha

ALRIGHT!!!! Maybe 400 for two lol

[Lyndon]

haha are they really that bad?

i'm on them right now.. they have a lot of body rolll, and they're almost like shocks/sleeves, so if you're on max low the springs can move around.
but to be honest, if you're looking for a really low drop for a good price, it's your best bet

[ep3jd]

Just don't ever ride in a friends car with real coilovers. Because you'll feel the way the rest of us do much quicker lol

[Lyndon]

yeah.. real coilovers feel so much better, i was so stoked when i was buying these, now i realize there's no cheap way out to real coilovers hahaha :mbiggrin:

[japanracah!]

hey you guys are right. im looking for more performance than just looks. Might just go all out and get bc N+'s. i here good things about these.

[gtimportfanatic]

Just don't ever ride in a friends car with real coilovers. Because you'll feel the way the rest of us do much quicker lol

hahah QFT!!

when i went to IA2010 with DrzFinest ... i parked my EP and we drove around in his.. i felt like poop the rest of the time lol:mfrown: .. i consider my racelands as cheap stock replacements.. not a competition piece.. someday buddyclubs will be on my EP

[ep3jd]

I'm with that 100%. Hahaha. He actually bought my jdm bumper!

[Lyndon]

hey you guys are right. im looking for more performance than just looks. Might just go all out and get bc N+'s. i here good things about these.

if you want performance, you should consider spending a little more for RSD's

[POOPTOOTH]

What kind of good rubber is only $350??? I wanna know cause thats a steal lol.

You're running Sumitomo's HTRz's right? I can get a set of 4 of those for $280.

[japanracah!]

if you want performance, you should consider spending a little more for RSD's

on a budget so idk lol

[MBaG]

You're running Sumitomo's HTRz's right? I can get a set of 4 of those for $280.

From where?

[POOPTOOTH]

From where?

Dealer cost @ Tire Rack.

[Lyndon]

on a budget so idk lol

get some k sports, pretty stiff if you ask me, but then again i've never ridden in a car with bc N+ on max stiff

[SamuraiSi]

ok just so i wouldn't get flamed, i went through all 30 pages and i didn't see much about warranty. some people said that they sent them replacements free. their site says that warranty applies if installed by a licensed mechanic. any of your self installers use the warranty? i'm not a tech, but i got no problem learning and using a walk-through like the ones provided on here.

[27rocks]

You're running Sumitomo's HTRz's right? I can get a set of 4 of those for $280.

Yes sir!!! And i got mine on sale just a little more then that. But these are DD tires and not even close to good performance tires lol.

[Lyndon]

ok just so i wouldn't get flamed, i went through all 30 pages and i didn't see much about warranty. some people said that they sent them replacements free. their site says that warranty applies if installed by a licensed mechanic. any of your self installers use the warranty? i'm not a tech, but i got no problem learning and using a walk-through like the ones provided on here.

raceland says you have to have it installed by a professional to replace them if anything goes wrong. so i'm just going to assume you would need to give them paperwork proving that you had it installed by a professional mechanic.

now on the other hand, racelands are a cheap set of suspension to go low, lower than springs, but they don't feel as nice as springs and a stock shock set up. i only got it because you can't go as low with springs, and if that were possible, they would probably blow your shocks anyway..
i would just suggest you install it yourself, it's pretty easy, it was frustrating for me at first, but i got the hang of it.

[monjarassi]

ok just so i wouldn't get flamed, i went through all 30 pages and i didn't see much about warranty. some people said that they sent them replacements free. their site says that warranty applies if installed by a licensed mechanic. any of your self installers use the warranty? i'm not a tech, but i got no problem learning and using a walk-through like the ones provided on here.

As for warranty they're good, I'm on my replacement shocks as we speak and no paperwork of install required. And I even kept my shocks..

[MBaG]

Dealer cost @ Tire Rack.


Yes sir!!! And i got mine on sale just a little more then that. But these are DD tires and not even close to good performance tires lol.

Hmm. $280 for a set of tires is pretty good. I might have to look into that. And I won't have to worry too much about performance, since I don't track my car or anything yet.

[SamuraiSi]

As for warranty they're good, I'm on my replacement shocks as we speak and no paperwork of install required. And I even kept my shocks..


raceland says you have to have it installed by a professional to replace them if anything goes wrong. so i'm just going to assume you would need to give them paperwork proving that you had it installed by a professional mechanic.

now on the other hand, racelands are a cheap set of suspension to go low, lower than springs, but they don't feel as nice as springs and a stock shock set up. i only got it because you can't go as low with springs, and if that were possible, they would probably blow your shocks anyway..
i would just suggest you install it yourself, it's pretty easy, it was frustrating for me at first, but i got the hang of it.

good deal guys, thanks. i'll be joining the Raceland crew within some time

[soloep3]

I have my raclelands alrdy, jus waiting for the Chicago weather to finally break to install em... Ive been comparing spring rate specs with the raceland springs and my current ones, Tien S-Techs. according to the specs I believe that the racland fronts are stiffer an the tien rears are stiffer( or vice versa, can't remember) either way I was wondering if anyone has installed different springs on the raceland coils yet, and how was the ride.... personally the springs look kinda cheapo to me???

[monjarassi]

I have my raclelands alrdy, jus waiting for the Chicago weather to finally break to install em... Ive been comparing spring rate specs with the raceland springs and my current ones, Tien S-Techs. according to the specs I believe that the racland fronts are stiffer an the tien rears are stiffer( or vice versa, can't remember) either way I was wondering if anyone has installed different springs on the raceland coils yet, and how was the ride.... personally the springs look kinda cheapo to me???

Same here I'm in the process of upgrading springs. Ill look into updating in this thread...

[blue2turbo]

Like do you mean putting swift or hypercoil springs onto the Raceland shocks? If so, those springs are anywhere from $250+ for a set of 4, at that point you'd already be about $500 deep AT LEAST for the racelands and upgraded springs, I'm sure there are better coils/suspension setups you can buy for that price range.

[Ronnie]

like do you mean putting swift or hypercoil springs onto the raceland shocks? If so, those springs are anywhere from $250+ for a set of 4, at that point you'd already be about $500 deep at least for the racelands and upgraded springs, i'm sure there are better coils/suspension setups you can buy for that price range.

word....

[carrito]

I just read all this thread and it seems that raceland coil are very good great reviews so I think i'm going for it!

[27rocks]

I have my raclelands alrdy, jus waiting for the Chicago weather to finally break to install em... Ive been comparing spring rate specs with the raceland springs and my current ones, Tien S-Techs. according to the specs I believe that the racland fronts are stiffer an the tien rears are stiffer( or vice versa, can't remember) either way I was wondering if anyone has installed different springs on the raceland coils yet, and how was the ride.... personally the springs look kinda cheapo to me???

LOL look how much the unit costs. Of course they are cheap. Also if you add to hard of a spring you will ruin the balance between the strut and the spring rusulting in a very bouncy ride. The strut wont be able to handle/keep up with the spring stroke.

[ep3jd]

LOL look how much the unit costs. Of course they are cheap. Also if you add to hard of a spring you will ruin the balance between the strut and the spring rusulting in a very bouncy ride. The strut wont be able to handle/keep up with the spring stroke.

The only thing bouncier then racelands is cut springs LOL

[drizzy88]

Just got my racelands installed Saturday, loving them so far!

[ep3jd]

http://images2.memegenerator.net/ImageMacro/6376157/FUCK-YEAH-EBAY-COILOVERS.jpg?imageSize=Medium&generatorName=Victory-Baby

[gamma6]

Lmao! +1

[bonSaI]

well i read the first 16 pages... all i got was a shit load of the same info... so im gonna ask.

these coilovers wouldnt be good for running canyons or anything like that like autoX?
im on a budget so these would be nice cuz they are cheap. if i can get someone to buy my k20a3 motor id get BC n+. but idk how long it will take to get someone to buy my engine. anyone need a used k20a3...? hahaha had to throw that out there.

i do dd my car but the roads i drive are all pretty nice. i dont like that they use the stock top hat, i would really like pillowball upper mounts. on their website it says all this stuff about being competition prooven and inspired.


Raceland coilovers are hands down the best coilover system for your dollar. Like all Raceland coilover systems, these have been designed to withstand the stresses of sport and competition driving. The suspension travel and damping force have been fully tested by professional rally drivers over thousands of miles and in the most brutal of environments.

so according to what their website says they would be fine for touge. but from what i read in this forum you guys are having problems with them making noise or blowing after you autoX or the like.

[ep3jd]

Do not track these coilovers. Save longer if you want to do anything other then bounce down the road and park real hard

[civictype_r04]

Do not track these coilovers. Save longer if you want to do anything other then bounce down the road and park real hard

Bahaha


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[bonSaI]

im not sure i know how to park real hard. could you elaborate on how to "park real hard"... hahaha is this what all these cool kids with lowered cars do when they come into a parking spot going like 25mph and then slam on the brakes to show how fast their car stops.. like in the fast and the furious where brian is leaving the store that dom owns after eatting a tuna sandwhich and they all roll in and skid into the parking spots... oh man i wish i knew how to do that...

[ep3jd]

No it's when you back into two spots on an angle and turn your wheel opposite of the angle you're on to show off your wheel fitment after loser lapping the parking lot looking for familiar faces from uncle ben's rice factory





:msmile:

[bonSaI]

oh man i do that with my non lowered ep3 to show off my ground clearance.. i can fit over a large coke from carls jr. i even carry around a old coke cup from carls jr. and when i get out i stick it under the body of my car to show how high it is. lol.....

[cronicEP]

well i read the first 16 pages... all i got was a shit load of the same info... so im gonna ask.

these coilovers wouldnt be good for running canyons or anything like that like autoX?
im on a budget so these would be nice cuz they are cheap. if i can get someone to buy my k20a3 motor id get BC n+. but idk how long it will take to get someone to buy my engine. anyone need a used k20a3...? hahaha had to throw that out there.

i do dd my car but the roads i drive are all pretty nice. i dont like that they use the stock top hat, i would really like pillowball upper mounts. on their website it says all this stuff about being competition prooven and inspired.



so according to what their website says they would be fine for touge. but from what i read in this forum you guys are having problems with them making noise or blowing after you autoX or the like.

Don't do it, you have a head full of headaches!

[LvisDin]

I wouldnt go with these to auto x. I like Tokico Dspecs and H&R if you dont want coils.

[bolaep3]

I feel realy stupid for asking this but after reading about 12 pages of this thread I still havent been able to answere my own question so here goes:

Are these Raceland coilovers just like the skunk2 ones? meaning you use them with your aftermarket or oem struts?

Sorry for my ignorance in advance.

[PatrickJamesYu]

I feel realy stupid for asking this but after reading about 12 pages of this thread I still havent been able to answere my own question so here goes:

Are these Raceland coilovers just like the skunk2 ones? meaning you use them with your aftermarket or oem struts?

Sorry for my ignorance in advance.

skunk2 has a pro-c series which is a full coilover system.
You are talking about Skunk2 Coilover Sleeves.
Key word is sleeves.
The skunk2 coilover sleeves you DO use existing strut/shocks or after market.
These racelands however are not sleeve designs.
They are full, non adjustable dampening, coilovers.
So they will replace your oem struts/shocks

[PatrickJamesYu]

:msmile:

Hahahaha, not exactly what I was trying to say but okay

[bolaep3]

Thank you much for the answere there bud.

So now for a suggestion from fellow ep3 owners.

I have tokico blues on my ep now for about 20k miles. They still feel great compared to my shot oem ones that were on before. Would it be recommended for me to go with these Raceland coilovers to get more out of the eps' handaling or just put on the skunk2 coilovers sleeves?

Thanks

[27rocks]

Thank you much for the answere there bud.

So now for a suggestion from fellow ep3 owners.

I have tokico blues on my ep now for about 20k miles. They still feel great compared to my shot oem ones that were on before. Would it be recommended for me to go with these Raceland coilovers to get more out of the eps' handaling or just put on the skunk2 coilovers sleeves?

Thanks

Handaling and Raceland don't go together to well.

[02TWSI]

Bump

[ep3jd]

Bumpy

Fixed

[hkrayingboyz]

Fixed

Totally true. I got them and i can feel every single bump but overall, for this price for the whole coilover suspension, I still think it worth it.

[ep3jd]

It is. They do what they are supposed to. Get you low without hurting your wallet or peace of mind over destroying a set of high end coilovers.

[lucky7]

i'm going to get a set. my car will likely never see a track, and i desperately want to be low. :lol:

where is the current cheapest place to buy?

[hkrayingboyz]

i'm going to get a set. my car will likely never see a track, and i desperately want to be low. :lol:

where is the current cheapest place to buy?

You can get them from http://www.racelandus.com/p-61-coilover-kit-for-honda-civic-ep3-2002-2005.aspx

I think this is the lowest unless you buy used. Other option is just to change the spring only from your oem to like tein or something

[lucky7]

a friend of mine got them for something like 230 for his mk4 gti. i wasn't sure if a place sold them cheaper than the raceland website.

the car currently has S techs on it, and the drop is pathetic.

[hkrayingboyz]

a friend of mine got them for something like 230 for his mk4 gti. i wasn't sure if a place sold them cheaper than the raceland website.

the car currently has S techs on it, and the drop is pathetic.

Pretty much $330 is the lowest I find. the gti and some other type of car are cheaper than other.

For other note:

If you have a friend that has 2004-2005 Honda Civc (Non-SI), they can use this set of suspension since is the same because I came across another honda civic having people to do that. (for 2000-2003, they need to have 2 different holes for the front suspension).

Just info. So if you want to do this, please do more research and dont take every single from me.

[ep3jd]

I got mine for 210 shipped when they came out!

[hkrayingboyz]

I got mine for 210 shipped when they came out!

Ya. That was last year and I didnt think I would change to raceland since I was using stock suspension with teins racing spring until I blown my front suspension so I go with raceland but it already go up to 330$. If i knew it, I would just get couple set before hand.

[lucky7]

bummer about the price increase. thanks for the info guys, very helpful.

[MBaG]

Who used up their warranty to get new struts or whatever? What did you guys say to them?

[ep3jd]

I believe charleso did

[charles]

i did. i just told them about some clunking, they offered some trouble shooting, and when that didnt work they sent a new strut. Although im still getting some clunking, its probably something else, still dont know

[soloep3]

well... gonna try to make this short so bare with me...
got my racelands in december for christmas, installed them once the weather in Chicago broke..so March is when.
the install was completed, with no problems as expected...except for needing to adjust the tow. I didnt plan on getting the alignment done until after a few weeks of driving on em. Well after the first 30 miles of driving on em i heard a noise, almost like coil popping. I actually installed both friggin' top spacers cuz the idiots never put the instructions in the box. Contacted them, they told me which ones to use as per car manuf. dates, and i had to use the red one, i have an 04 and the red one sppsd to be for 02-03. Anyways, fixed that and still had the noise. Raised the car up higher cuz both rear wheels were tucked and neg. camber. Raised it up, and after about a week, the fuckin noise was worse, raised it up a lil higher again...noise got worse to the point where it only used to make noise on turns to where it sounds like the front wheel is gonna fall off going straight, oh ya not to mention, the car is STILL sitting at the same height as when i first installed em...can u say sagging springs??? upon my 9 years being a tech for honda/acura, i found that the whole shock dampener is moving inside the housing itself, and causing the spring to pop and rattle.
i called raceland an explained the problem, they said that i needed to ship the struts to them first, then they would inspect and send new ones out....I laughed at em, cuz this is my only car now. Later on, sent em some pics, and they r sending fronts L and R out..should be here next week. good luck, the new ones better work, if not, ill keep doing this!!!!

[G-MaC!]

Just for potential buyers wondering about these coilovers, I have one thing to say. Yes, these are great for going low. If you slam your car, any suspension is not going to feel very nice so then these might be a good choice for you. But, there is a minimum drop on these. You will not even get these to stock height. If you are looking for a "mild drop", I suggest you stay away from these. I learned the hard way.

[kaotik78]

Why do you say that? Mabye some of us want to have a moderate drop rather than beat the tar out of our suspension by sitting less than an inch from the ground :)

Raceland told me that in their tallest setting they're still sitting one inch lower than stock. Don't see why these couldn't be used for a moderate drop. Just wonder how good the dampers are and how long they'll last.

[ep3jd]

I think I put 13,000 miles on mine, they feel like the day I got them. Not necessarily a good thing though lol

[kaotik78]

Still have them installed?

[ep3jd]

Ohhh yeah, I deliver car parts in this beast

[G-MaC!]

Why do you say that? Mabye some of us want to have a moderate drop rather than beat the tar out of our suspension by sitting less than an inch from the ground :)

Raceland told me that in their tallest setting they're still sitting one inch lower than stock. Don't see why these couldn't be used for a moderate drop. Just wonder how good the dampers are and how long they'll last.


Because I have them installed and I am literally at the top of the threads so they can not be raised anymore, that is why. The whole Raceland coilover is much smaller compared to stock. If you think they can have a moderate drop, by all means pick them up and try. But I have these on my car.

[carrito]

Because I have them installed and I am literally at the top of the threads so they can not be raised anymore, that is why. The whole Raceland coilover is much smaller compared to stock. If you think they can have a moderate drop, by all means pick them up and try. But I have these on my car.

are they good? cause i think to put racelands in my ep =)

[ep3jd]

Lol..... Define good

[kaotik78]

Because I have them installed and I am literally at the top of the threads so they can not be raised anymore, that is why. The whole Raceland coilover is much smaller compared to stock. If you think they can have a moderate drop, by all means pick them up and try. But I have these on my car.

Got any photos of how far up you have the coils? Not trying to start a fight, just going off what the Raceland rep told me, that at the highest setting the car will sit around an inch lower than stock. Is that the case with you?

[kaotik78]

Lol..... Define good

Doh!!!

[G-MaC!]

Got any photos of how far up you have the coils? Not trying to start a fight, just going off what the Raceland rep told me, that at the highest setting the car will sit around an inch lower than stock. Is that the case with you?

I don't at the moment, if I get some in the near future I'll post them. No worries. I can't get two fingers between the top of the tire and the fender.

[G-MaC!]

are they good? cause i think to put racelands in my ep =)

For DD'ing, yes.

[Kis4KEN]

Lol..... Define good

Yea, I am not going to read through 33 pages. My set up at the moment is Tein S-tech springs that I bought in 2002 as well as pretty much blown struts in the rear.

So I guess my definition of "good" means something like tokiko blues... or maybe d-specs at the softest setting? Really, if anyone in local (socal 626) would be down to give me a test ride, that would be awesome.

[ep3jd]

I <3 racelands

[RHCP0801]

his car didnt ride that bad with the racelands, not as bad as i thought

[MBaG]

I <3 racelands

I did too, but now it's clunking too much.

[hkrayingboyz]

I <3 racelands

I like them but their logo is super small. No point on putting them on the car when no one can see them lol

[gtimportfanatic]

his car didnt ride that bad with the racelands, not as bad as i thought

ALL the people that question racelands have this reaction lol.. i love it..

[gtimportfanatic]

I like them but their logo is super small. No point on putting them on the car when no one can see them lol

i had mine on my gas tank.. and one under my hood...

[ep3jd]

his car didnt ride that bad with the racelands, not as bad as i thought

Especially considering how low it is, the crazy miles I've put on them, and having insanely stretched tires. Lol

[i11 b3havior]

Man with all the reviews I have read on these coilovers on here I am seriously thinking about getting them even thou I am a brand whore especially when it comes to my car !!! either oem or high end usually. But now I am actually thinking about even getting depos instead of honda type-r and chucking my tein springs to get coilovers just for about a 1/2" an inch drop !!!

[G-MaC!]

If you get Racelands you're not going to be able to have a 1/2" drop.

[ep3jd]

He means a 1/2" drop more then his current set up

[MuiThaiVampire]

for those who have these, how long have you had them?

[charles]

two years

[ep3jd]

15,000 miles

[carrito]

I just ordered my set =) do you guys recommend to change the bearings?

this one?

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq118/chaseerry/7.jpg

[jed_averill]

versus Ground Controls?

[alex026]

like 5000km and they are clunking. Getting something else.

[G-MaC!]

I just ordered my set =) do you guys recommend to change the bearings?

this one?

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq118/chaseerry/7.jpg

Mine weren't that bad of shape really, but while you have it out infront of you I would buy new ones.

[MBaG]

like 5000km and they are clunking. Getting something else.

Yea, mine are clunking bad. And I'm not too sure how to stop it anymore, so I'm saving up for some better quality coilovers.

But these Racelands were good to me, until the obnoxious clunking came. $250 well spent if you ask me.. but never again. =p

[alex026]

yeah man its super obnoxious and not worth fixing, I think im going to go with the d2 coilovers 36 way adjustable. heard pretty good things about them and for 900 bucks to my door its not too bad.


Yea, mine are clunking bad. And I'm not too sure how to stop it anymore, so I'm saving up for some better quality coilovers.

But these Racelands were good to me, until the obnoxious clunking came. $250 well spent if you ask me.. but never again. =p

[carrito]

Mine weren't that bad of shape really, but while you have it out infront of you I would buy new ones.

thnx i ordered anyways i dont want any problems haha

[hkrayingboyz]

It might all depend on if you are lucky or not. Do anyone have that problem because of racing or just daily driving and it happen?

[khiemboy]

It might all depend on if you are lucky or not. Do anyone have that problem because of racing or just daily driving and it happen?

Ive been running on them for I think almost a year? Or about 8k miles now no problems but my steering rack makes some noise when I'm turning but not moving. But my car made those sounds before the race lands too. I think they are worth it unless you have like 9 bills to buy other coils

[lemonhead228]

Do you guys recommend these for a long term?

I'm on mugen ss but I want to go lower and reading all the good comments on these, I wouldn't bother to switch then out.

Other than the chuckin problem.

[hkrayingboyz]

Ive been running on them for I think almost a year? Or about 8k miles now no problems but my steering rack makes some noise when I'm turning but not moving. But my car made those sounds before the race lands too. I think they are worth it unless you have like 9 bills to buy other coils

I know what happen to the noise u heard. It your top hat that the plastic is bent which when u turn the suspension the plastic is rubbing the suspension which no big deal for me unless you want to take the whole suspension out and bent the plastic back out which will fix that problem. For me, just dont bother it since I always get ailg and dont want to do that again.

[G-MaC!]

Do you guys recommend these for a long term?

I'm on mugen ss but I want to go lower and reading all the good comments on these, I wouldn't bother to switch then out.

Other than the chuckin problem.

Mugen SS are pretty highly regarded, and I am sure there are many people would go with those if they had that much cash do dish out. I would stick with the Mugens.

[carrito]

I just got my set hehehe i hope works good! since i'm noob in raceland set, i would like to drop my car 2 inches, how should i graduate the spring to get those 2 inches?

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww236/carlsol/DSC04143.jpg

[hkrayingboyz]

For Carrito. I think is like 60% - 70% from bottom to top. I know is higher than in the middle. I guess is the only way to find out is to test it until you like it. Btw, after a week or 2, you will be 1/16 to 1/8 inch lower since the spring still new and havent actually got a load for a while. My suggestion is that sit ur car on the spring for couple days before alig it unless you need the car right aways. That just my 5 cents tips.

[carrito]

For Carrito. I think is like 60% - 70% from bottom to top. I know is higher than in the middle. I guess is the only way to find out is to test it until you like it. Btw, after a week or 2, you will be 1/16 to 1/8 inch lower since the spring still new and havent actually got a load for a while. My suggestion is that sit ur car on the spring for couple days before alig it unless you need the car right aways. That just my 5 cents tips.

oh thnx so im gonna put them in the middle and then i'm gonna start playing with the screw, and unfortunatly i do need the car for going to work everyday :S so after i put them on aling and good to roll haha

[hkrayingboyz]

oh thnx so im gonna put them in the middle and then i'm gonna start playing with the screw, and unfortunatly i do need the car for going to work everyday :S so after i put them on aling and good to roll haha

So you will need to assume the car will be a bit lower than what u have when u have them. So i will start off with 75% from bottom up so I think that there 2 inch drop.

[carrito]

So you will need to assume the car will be a bit lower than what u have when u have them. So i will start off with 75% from bottom up so I think that there 2 inch drop.

awesome info thanx dude!!!!!

[MBaG]

oh thnx so im gonna put them in the middle and then i'm gonna start playing with the screw, and unfortunatly i do need the car for going to work everyday :S so after i put them on aling and good to roll haha

Alignment is a MUST right after. Your toe is going to be slammedd.

[carrito]

Alignment is a MUST right after. Your toe is going to be slammedd.

oh ok tnx for the tip....

[hkrayingboyz]

Alignment is a MUST right after. Your toe is going to be slammedd.

unless u dont drive so you can let the spring have some load on it til have a fix height. For me, I wait for 2 days and didnt drive it after I install the suspension then i go align it after.

[MBaG]

unless u dont drive so you can let the spring have some load on it til have a fix height. For me, I wait for 2 days and didnt drive it after I install the suspension then i go align it after.

that's why i quoted his post in which he said he has to drive everyday for work..

[hkrayingboyz]

that's why i quoted his post in which he said he has to drive everyday for work..

I know but that how I did mine that all. All im saying is that the car will be lower a bit after you load your car onto the spring.

[ace of spades]

looking for a little info. I might be picking up a set of these used on the cheap and would like to know what is needed from the diagram. I will not be reusing anything from my current suspension, and buying new pieces for the top. thanks

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii142/blueEP3piece/wat.png

besides #9, 10, and 11?

[carrito]

looking for a little info. I might be picking up a set of these used on the cheap and would like to know what is needed from the diagram. I will not be reusing anything from my current suspension, and buying new pieces for the top. thanks

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii142/blueEP3piece/wat.png

besides #9, 10, and 11?

you need to change number 9

[ace of spades]

like I said, anything other than 9, 10, 11?

[MBaG]

like I said, anything other than 9, 10, 11?

The only thing I reused was the tophat, so you pretty much got it down.

Just be careful being them used... mine got worn out pretty quick.

[ace of spades]

OK, thanks man

[G-MaC!]

Alignment is a MUST right after. Your toe is going to be slammedd.

Definitely get an alignment right away or you will be wobbling, my toe was efffed haha.

[jed_averill]

Ordered mine today, apparently they said they fixed the clunking problem..

[AUTiger]

Ordered mine today, apparently they said they fixed the clunking problem..

i'll believe it when I see it. The clunking is one of the reasons why I haven't picked these up.

[02TWSI]

i'll believe it when I see it. The clunking is one of the reasons why I haven't picked these up.

Same

[j0000stin]

i'll believe it when I see it. The clunking is one of the reasons why I haven't picked these up.

that and from the ride quality i saw in that one dudes vid, it looks like shit haha. hell i got my form and function coils less than a set of racelands when they were 270 haha

[MBaG]

that and from the ride quality i saw in that one dudes vid, it looks like shit haha. hell i got my form and function coils less than a set of racelands when they were 270 haha

ride quality isn't too bad. my only complaint is the clunking.. but i called and they said send in a video showing the clunking and they'll send me new fronts.

EDIT: i drove from socal to norcal with these, and the ride was pretty comfortable the whole way there. (that's with me tucking tire / almost tucking rim on 17s)

[02TWSI]

that and from the ride quality i saw in that one dudes vid, it looks like shit haha. hell i got my form and function coils less than a set of racelands when they were 270 haha

The type 1s? I saw that those were 630 from Jhpusa but they don't offer them for the EP

[G-MaC!]

that and from the ride quality i saw in that one dudes vid, it looks like shit haha. hell i got my form and function coils less than a set of racelands when they were 270 haha

When was that? haha

[carrito]

i just install my set =D so far so good! i love them!

[kale's blue ep3]

Hey does the rokkor/raceland coilovers come with torque specs in the instructions?

[G-MaC!]

Hey does the rokkor/raceland coilovers come with torque specs in the instructions?

No, they do not.

[MBaG]

Hey does the rokkor/raceland coilovers come with torque specs in the instructions?

I don't even think they come with instructions.

[kale's blue ep3]

I don't even think they come with instructions.

damm okay thanks

[ivtec_do_u]

Hey guys quick question. In order to raise my ride height I will turn the thread perch ring down to the ground effectively elongating the spring right?

[MBaG]

Hey guys quick question. In order to raise my ride height I will turn the thread perch ring down to the ground effectively elongating the spring right?

Nope. Higher = higher, lower = lower. So you would want to raise the perch ring.

[ivtec_do_u]

Seemed too obvious. Thanks man!

[k20aem2]

Anybody got a used set for sale?

[G-MaC!]

Anybody got a used set for sale?

I have a set for sale the rears are brand new, and the fronts have about 20km on them. PM me, I don't have enough posts to make a for sale thread ahah.

[k20aem2]

I have a set for sale the rears are brand new, and the fronts have about 20km on them. PM me, I don't have enough posts to make a for sale thread ahah.

pm'd you!

[Distance]

http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad244/socalephatch/266716_238270302867675_100000541219398_891188_7610 966_o.jpg



someone confirm these but they look similar to racelands correct?

[ep3jd]

Um... Yes.


I'm giving up on ssr. Everything that dude sells is overpriced. Thing other things

[PatrickJamesYu]

someone confirm these but they look similar to racelands correct?

Haha how embarrassing
These, and also their Visors are are double the price of what they actually retail for.

[Distance]

Um... Yes.


I'm giving up on ssr. Everything that dude sells is overpriced. Thing other things

i knew you would chime in :D

[ep3jd]

og racelands. 20k and goin strong son

[27rocks]

lol at over double the price. That's like buying $2k Megans hahaha

[PatrickJamesYu]

Not to hate, but it seems like they aren't even authorized dealers. It's like they buy their products retail, and still try to create a profit bracket of like 50%.

If they became legit dealers for Raceland, and they offered them at like $310, they'd destroy the market, and still make their 30% profit (business 101) which considers them to be a "good business".
I assume though, because I do not know what the dealer cost of an inventory of Racelands would cost.

I never saw them offering those though at $700, and I can't seem to find it now.

[Distance]

Not to hate, but it seems like they aren't even authorized dealers. It's like they buy their products retail, and still try to create a profit bracket of like 50%.

If they became legit dealers for Raceland, and they offered them at like $310, they'd destroy the market, and still make their 30% profit (business 101) which considers them to be a "good business".
I assume though, because I do not know what the dealer cost of an inventory of Racelands would cost.

I never saw them offering those though at $700, and I can't seem to find it now.

he deleted the thread right when myself and another member asked if they were racelands. it all happen within 10 mins.

[PatrickJamesYu]

he deleted the thread right when myself and another member asked if they were racelands. it all happen within 10 mins.

Ahh, nice getting the screen shot.

If I were a Raceland dealer, or selling coilovers built by them, I'd order an inventory with more realistic spring rates.
Everyone has a problem with them anyways, and it'd deter people from assuming they're 'Raceland'. And since they're so cheap I'd get
springrates with the hellaflush market in mind. If you throw crazy spring rates, the stance guys will buy. Especially if costs were still below $350 with custom spring rates.

[ep3jd]

With the price of a wholesale order he could have purchased top hats as well, and powder coated them to match the rest of the set and included/assembled them and sold then at 700$ to really be a complete scam artist douche.





Love the muteki nuts he's selling for 19 dollars more then CRSX too..... :mrolleyes:

[hyu]

Sounds like a pro-troll

[jed_averill]

That's ridicless...

Anyways, the ride is pretty stiffer than stock but not by much.

[27rocks]

Ahh, nice getting the screen shot.

If I were a Raceland dealer, or selling coilovers built by them, I'd order an inventory with more realistic spring rates.
Everyone has a problem with them anyways, and it'd deter people from assuming they're 'Raceland'. And since they're so cheap I'd get
springrates with the hellaflush market in mind. If you throw crazy spring rates, the stance guys will buy. Especially if costs were still below $350 with custom spring rates.If you change spring rates you also have to change the dampening valve. You cant really do one and not the other. You will get a bouncy car, so they both have to match each other. So they would basically just have to rebuild the strut to compensate for the stiffer springs which is not a big deal, but its an extra step for them.

[speedstar808]

With the price of a wholesale order he could have purchased top hats as well, and powder coated them to match the rest of the set and included/assembled them and sold then at 700$ to really be a complete scam artist douche.


Love the muteki nuts he's selling for 19 dollars more then CRSX too..... :mrolleyes:


Come tell that to my face!! Look guys I didn't know these where raceland, these were offered to me by a distributor as private label!! Upon finding out I had to question him. Thx for hating! Pz

[ep3jd]

Come tell that to my face!! Look guys I didn't know these where raceland, these were offered to me by a distributor as private label!! Upon finding out I had to question him. Thx for hating! Pz

You are aware you're a vendor, right? That you own a "businesses"? That you should conduct yourself as if you're NOT a child if you wish for respect, or at the least to be taken seriously?

And that I live on the opposite side of the country?



"come tell that to my face!!" = "meet me at the flag pole after class for a pounding BRO"



Do your research before you attempt to sell us EBAY products.... For seven hundred dollars!





Thx 4 playing! Pz~*

[dirtyMETHOD]

As a Vendor that "DIDN'T KNOW" BS tells me that either you don't research the products you sell (which means your not credible as a resource for quality) or your business is hurting and someone is passing the buck.

I feel sorry for anyone that bought a set.

Again, not to hate but thats just horrible business. Research before posting on a site that's got a very active thread/community on the exact same thing your posting. FAIL

[02TWSI]

Nice.

[mitchlikesbikes]

You are aware you're a vendor, right? That you own a "businesses"? That you should conduct yourself as if you're NOT a child if you wish for respect, or at the least to be taken seriously?

And that I live on the opposite side of the country?



"come tell that to my face!!" = "meet me at the flag pole after class for a pounding BRO"



Do your research before you attempt to sell us EBAY products.... For seven hundred dollars!





Thx 4 playing! Pz~*

i lol'd..

[PatrickJamesYu]

If you change spring rates you also have to change the dampening valve. You cant really do one and not the other. You will get a bouncy car, so they both have to match each other. So they would basically just have to rebuild the strut to compensate for the stiffer springs which is not a big deal, but its an extra step for them.

I agree, but me never driven on Racelands, except on a miata, assumed the the shock wasn't valved for the current spring rates.
I guess I need to do my research :/

[PatrickJamesYu]

Come tell that to my face!! Look guys I didn't know these where raceland, these were offered to me by a distributor as private label!! Upon finding out I had to question him. Thx for hating! Pz
Response to everyone/ anyone involved on this topic:
I understand from a vendor's point of view.
SSR, simply posted up kinda like a "teaser" to see what things would be like.
Rather than committing to becoming a dealer, he posted up to see our reactions, and our response to the new product.

Here's a realistic scenario.
Raceland probably doesn't make these them selves. It's a factory in China.
That factory I'll call XXX.
Factory XXX contacts SpeedStarRacing, offering full coilovers.
Naturally any car enthusiast would say full coilover's 'start' AROUND $700.
A vendor like SSR, sees this as a great business opportunity, and rushes to promote it, before committing to a deal with Factory XXX
I don't know if it's true, but this is a common thing for internet based stores.

Sadly I'm a hater so I don't think about these things.
But seriously, Not hating, just talking business.
When it comes to our personal finances, we have the right to talk.

[JJay.]

Anyone experiencing clunking noises when backing up or doing a 3 point turn?

[ep3jd]

Everyone.

[gamma6]

Everyone.

Yup i have rokkors(racelands) and they ONLY clunk when backing up or a 3pt turn

[MBaG]

Anyone experiencing clunking noises when backing up or doing a 3 point turn?

Mine clunk from just a slight left turn too.

[ep3jd]

Mine clunk all day, every day :msmile:

[jed_averill]

I never clunk. Well... only when I hit a pot hole, then it clunks a few more after that. It disappears after a day until I hit a pot again.

[MBaG]

This is what they told me to try to fix it. Has anyone done this?

"Have you tried greasing the spring perch on top? Please make sure you are using the correct upper spring seat as others have had the problem when using the incorrect mount."

[hondero69]

hey guys reviewing the price that you bought this kit about $270 when i check for ebay they has for $379,i want sure if is the same kit that you have i don't know if come with more parts or if they make an upgrade...what you think guys...that is the same raceland coilover kit? check this out..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Coilover-Kit-Honda-Civic-EP3-2002-2005-/110700770469?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item19c647b4a5

[ep3jd]

Those are racelands.... Nothing is different. They just cost more money now. Thats all.

[charles]

good thing i got them while they were cheap. $240!!!!

[hondero69]

Those are racelands.... Nothing is different. They just cost more money now. Thats all.

wow thats a lot difference of money...wtf

[ep3jd]

Yeah welcome to inflation. A companies low introductory price isn't going to last forever.

[hondero69]

Yeah welcome to inflation. A companies low introductory price isn't going to last forever.

x2..plus $100 shipping to Puerto Rico = $479

[MBaG]

This is what they told me to try to fix it. Has anyone done this?

"Have you tried greasing the spring perch on top? Please make sure you are using the correct upper spring seat as others have had the problem when using the incorrect mount."

bump for an answer.

[02CivicSI-VTEC]

for those of you who have theses coilover for a while now hows the strut holding up from being too low.

[EP3CHRiS]

has anyone ever run these in the winter time?? Anyone ever have any problems trying to raise or lower the car after running them in the
winter time??

Thanks

[JJay.]

2 inch drop, maybe around 300 miles put on my race lands and they are starting to make a clicking noise every time i push down on the car. Does anyone know what could be the problem?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OZ1JcAl9jU

[jed_averill]

I get the same exact problem, only when I hit a nasty bump though and then it disappears after 5 minutes.

[JJay.]

Everytime i hit a bump it makes one click/crank noise, not loud though.

[jed_averill]

It doesn't sound like it's going to break but it sounds really annoying IMO

[JJay.]

It doesn't sound like it's going to break but it sounds really annoying IMO
I hope so. Emailed raceland , hoping to get a reply. I just wanna know what the problem is and if anything is wrong with my coilover, I hope they will replace them

[jed_averill]

Keep us posted.

[JJay.]

Email from raceland

Jjay,

Thank you for your e-mail. I had our Honda tech take a look at the video and we are unaware of what the noise could be. Did your mechanic give you more detail as to why the shock wasn’t working? In either case, there are a couple of options. If you have the ability to get more details from your mechanic, we would like to know more details about what is going on with the set up. This may require that your mechanic remove it to take a closer look at it. If you do not have the time or resources to have some investigational work done, another option is that you can purchase that one set up for $100 shipped. Once you have received and installed the new set up, return the damaged coilover back to us for a full refund of the $100. Please let me know how you would like to proceed and if you should have any further questions, please let me know.

Regards,
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[civic sir f1]

so its been long period of time with these coilovers how they holding up now. still ok? i have megans and i get the stupid coil (spring) bind
any new info on these raceland coilovers? u guys getting coil bind?

[jed_averill]

No problem so far. Been there for a few months, drove a couple thousand miles.

[Kerby]

has anyone ever put a ep3 with raceland coilovers next to an ep3 with Buddy Club RSD?
A good friend of mine said The stance one gets with raceland can't be duplicated with RSD.

[jed_averill]

How come? I don't understand? Maybe need some camber kits and spacers to get the stance you want, but if it's the height adjustment, the Racelands can go all the way to the bottom of the floor.

[Kerby]

Sorry, I guess I worded my question incorrectly.

When comparing Raceland to Buddy Club RSDs, is the ride height adjustability the same or is there a difference? A good friend of mine told me that the Buddy Clubs do not have the capability to go as low as Racelands. Is this statement true?

[jed_averill]

I have no experience with Buddy Clubs but looking at my stance and the threads, I can go make my car sit on my tires like literally, I'm positive. I would have to take a picture to make sure though. Just let me know if you want them.

Anyways IDK why you would want to go low on racelands since they would ride shittier. They're already stiffer than OEM on my ride and I'm not dumped at all.

[cjohnst]

I just swapped my RL for the new Tein Basis. I had the terrible clunking noise, but didn't think it was the coil until 1500 dollars of repairs later I realized it was in fact the coil. I just got an email from RL that said,

"I do apologize for the lengths that you have gone to. The issue that we are having with the EP3 Coilover is that the cap of the shock body that holds the shock insert into the shock body comes loose. All of our kits are assembled in the same manner but we have yet to find a reason why this cap is coming loose with this particular kit. We have some material that suggests that because the coilover is connected to the tie rod, that extra vibrations are causing the unit to eventually come loose and when it does, it causes play in the shock body, resulting in clunking."

They guy I talked with was really understanding, and said if I send in a video of the clunking of the actual strut being messed up they would send me a new one. Or.. If I put a 50 dollar deposit down they would send a new one and refund me the money whenever they received my old strut. That sounded pretty fair to me. I'm actually going to be selling mine for 250 either in the current state, which means you would have to send off for the new strut, or after I receive the new strut - either way 250 plus shipping. Great coils for DD, I put mine on in November and have about 7k on them. Rode great, just sounded like crap. Any other questions just PM me, I'd be glad to give what little feedback I can.

[civic sir f1]

that sux if its not one thing is another with my megans i get stupid coil bind and with (rl) strut cap comes loose what is a good combo to dd and get a little more bite and lower the vehicle i refuse to 4x4 dd.

[cjohnst]

I would have much rather spent the money on some other stuff... it just set me back 1500 on further advancing my car... eh, life. It could always be worse haha

[civic sir f1]

hey cjhonst what are u running now? what set up do u have? i need to change my megans iwonder how d2 are.

[cjohnst]

hey cjhonst what are u running now? what set up do u have? i need to change my megans iwonder how d2 are.

I got the new tein basis. I really like them. My ep is a dd, and they do great. Not too stiff or bouncy. Def not as stiff as when I had megans.

[vfuckindub]

I have a quick question for you guys. You seem to know what you're talking about so.. here goes. I just bought a mark three vw off some kid who had raceland coilover suspension on it. He had this car like two and a half inches off the ground. I had a garage raise it because the body sat practically down on the tire. I have to get new tires because there is little to no tred.. And just this morning the left front tire makes a clunking sound. Any ideas what could be wrong? Also when I drove it before it was raised there was no sound, but it pulled to the left HARD. It still does but not as much.

[cjohnst]

Racelands and a Clunk - could be anything haha...
Get in there and grab the coil and shake it back and forth (pull towards you and push away) if it moves then the collar nut (I think that's what it's call) on the racelands might be messed up. That's what was wrong with mine. There shouldn't be any play in them. Start there.
Also, check out vwvortex.com and see what they have to say. mk 3, that's a little older vdub isn't it? Check swaybar, endlinks, bushings with cracks, any leaking grease, etc. Hopefully something i said was helpful.
Someone is bound to answer that has a lot more knowledge than I do.

[k20aem2]

most of the time its the cap that is loose but can be due to bolts and nuts coming loose also.

What I wanna know is that has anybody welded the cap so it wont come loose again?

[jerrymouas]

What I wanna know is that has anybody welded the cap so it wont come loose again?[/QUOTE]

My cape came loose not too long ago, so i tighten it up and JB weld the top cape to the struts and it hadn't clunk since.

[blueandgoldep3]

so whats the verdict on these things? worth taking a chance on them? this whole thread is filled with people complaining of clunking and clicking and problems so im kind of on the fence because it seems as though the customer service guys are willing to help no matter what the issue is and they replace for free, but idk if its worth the headache to not spend the money on a better setup, has anyone actually bought these things and NOT had any problems with them?

[k20aem2]

If you're on a budget they're fine. I havent had a problem with my rokkors, had them for 8 months now no clunking or cap coming loose.

[jed_averill]

Clunking disappeared after a few months. Maybe it was the springs that are finally settled in.

[MBaG]

My racelands clunked for months, but then I finally lubed up the spring perches and the clunking was gone for 3 weeks or so. Then I sold my car.

[blueandgoldep3]

My racelands clunked for months, but then I finally lubed up the spring perches and the clunking was gone for 3 weeks or so. Then I sold my car.
so would you recommend lubing the perches pre install?

[blueandgoldep3]

If you're on a budget they're fine. I havent had a problem with my rokkors, had them for 8 months now no clunking or cap coming loose. i actually saw those as well, wondered if they had the same issues as the racelands

[MBaG]

so would you recommend lubing the perches pre install?

Yea. It stopped the clunking for at least 3 weeks (& I'm assuming as long as they're lubed up, they won't clunk); the clunking is probably still gone, but I don't keep in touch with the buyer.. so yeah.

[k20aem2]

i actually saw those as well, wondered if they had the same issues as the racelands

I believe so since they are the same as racelands just a different name under the same company.

If the caps do come loose just put blue loc-tite on the threads and you'll be good.

[Kerby]

where you guys buying raceland now-a-days?

[carrito]

they have a web page...

[StockTexasEP3]

Anyones thoughts on racelands.. kind of what to upgrade my OEM suspension. How much better will these feel?

[gamma6]

Yo not trying to be a dick but, have u read thru the thread?
Ur at the right place now read... theres 42pgs of info im sure ull find ur answer

[gamma6]

Yo not trying to be a dick but, have u read thru the thread?
Ur at the right place now read... theres 42pgs of info im sure ull find ur answer

[ep3colin]

i had a problem with the cap coming loose on one of my struts and even with it tight as possible with lock tight there was still movement in the casing with the piston, given it was very minimal rokkor was okay with it and sent me an entire front passenger assembly and it looks like the top cap they are using something different to seal it with and that shit wouldnt budge

[StockTexasEP3]

i had a problem with the cap coming loose on one of my struts and even with it tight as possible with lock tight there was still movement in the casing with the piston, given it was very minimal rokkor was okay with it and sent me an entire front passenger assembly and it looks like the top cap they are using something different to seal it with and that shit wouldnt budge

I'm really not that sure of what you just said.. I don't have much technical knowledge of suspension set ups. But, it sounds like you had a problem and they rectified it? How many miles have you had them on? Does it ride better than OEM?

[PatrickJamesYu]

I'm really not that sure of what you just said.. I don't have much technical knowledge of suspension set ups. But, it sounds like you had a problem and they rectified it? How many miles have you had them on? Does it ride better than OEM?

What do you consider as "better than OEM"?
We all have different perspectives. We don't know what you consider as better.
But as far as my baised answer, no it will ride worse than OEM.
Also, assuming you're going to drop it low and daily it, they in my opinion do not dampen 'properly' for the springrates/car.
What I consider as "better than OEM" I would be thinking more of a luxery ride; Doesn't bounce, very smooth, dampens like a champ.
So I would say that Raceland Coilovers are a step further away from a luxery car feel.
They are bouncy, smooth enough, and they don't dampen properly in my opinion. I think they are much too bouncy. I thought they were blown the first time I drove an ep3 with them in.

But if you're planning on slamming your car, that should mean you're willing to sacrifice some ride quality.

[StockTexasEP3]

What do you consider as "better than OEM"?
We all have different perspectives. We don't know what you consider as better.
But as far as my baised answer, no it will ride worse than OEM.
Also, assuming you're going to drop it low and daily it, they in my opinion do not dampen 'properly' for the springrates/car.
What I consider as "better than OEM" I would be thinking more of a luxery ride; Doesn't bounce, very smooth, dampens like a champ.
So I would say that Raceland Coilovers are a step further away from a luxery car feel.
They are bouncy, smooth enough, and they don't dampen properly in my opinion. I think they are much too bouncy. I thought they were blown the first time I drove an ep3 with them in.

But if you're planning on slamming your car, that should mean you're willing to sacrifice some ride quality.

I don't want to slam my car at all. Looking for maybe a 1.5 in drop. Lately I've been feeling my stock suspension set up is too bouncy and not tight enough. Rides hard over bumps and is not smooth. Ideally I would like it closer to my grandmother's 5 series that I've been driving this weekend. Her car just feels tighter overall, more held together. I also drive my car HARD and she drives it like a grandma, so there's something to say about that. I think she has an 04 with 70k miles and I have 03 si with 100 k. I know the front struts were replaced maybe 30 or 40 k miles back, I think, because they were blown. But the rears are still original. Overall I just want the car to feel more solid over all. Currently have a bigger rear sway and looking at strut bar either front / rear or both. All other suspension is stock. I do not have a grand to spend on a suspension set up right now and I've heard good and bad things about the racelands, which is why I'm asking.

[mitchlikesbikes]

I don't want to slam my car at all. Looking for maybe a 1.5 in drop. Lately I've been feeling my stock suspension set up is too bouncy and not tight enough. Rides hard over bumps and is not smooth. Ideally I would like it closer to my grandmother's 5 series that I've been driving this weekend. Her car just feels tighter overall, more held together. I also drive my car HARD and she drives it like a grandma, so there's something to say about that. I think she has an 04 with 70k miles and I have 03 si with 100 k. I know the front struts were replaced maybe 30 or 40 k miles back, I think, because they were blown. But the rears are still original. Overall I just want the car to feel more solid over all. Currently have a bigger rear sway and looking at strut bar either front / rear or both. All other suspension is stock. I do not have a grand to spend on a suspension set up right now and I've heard good and bad things about the racelands, which is why I'm asking.

if you want a decent ride and don't even want to slam it, it would probably be better to go with progress or eibach springs.

[civic sir f1]

i wonder if rl has fixed the issues with these coils? for the price u can't beat them. but the annoying noise just sucks. u guys have the number for there tech line i want to call them and ask.

[Satinsilver03]

Ya can't go wrong with the price..... I'll be ordering a set or 2 after Xmas.....

[hyu]

Ya can't go wrong with the price..... I'll be ordering a set or 2 after Xmas.....

If you're buying two sets might as well get a fully adjustable coilovers set

Sent from my autocorrect butchering device

[whatsvtec]

If you're buying two sets might as well get a fully adjustable coilovers set

Sent from my autocorrect butchering device

:thumbu:

[1st]

I just picked up a set. Will see how they ride.