need help asap si broke

[dboysi03]

i have a 2003 si and its worked fine the whole week but this friday i drove it thursday nite and everything was fine. I got in it to go to work on friday and when i started it it sounded grogy and exaust was a little louder then normal and it just died. tried to start it again and it was loud rpms went up a little and the it died again then i could smell gas. im thinking it might be my fuel pump cause i can drive it around the parking lot but its lack of power then it dies so i parked it. please help. note i have a check engine light on but its been on bc of a 02 sensor and that shouldnt cause my car to die aka shut off.

[Ep3 ked]

i have a 2003 si and its worked fine the whole week but this friday i drove it thursday nite and everything was fine. I got in it to go to work on friday and when i started it it sounded grogy and exaust was a little louder then normal and it just died. tried to start it again and it was loud rpms went up a little and the it died again then i could smell gas. im thinking it might be my fuel pump cause i can drive it around the parking lot but its lack of power then it dies so i parked it. please help. note i have a check engine light on but its been on bc of a 02 sensor and that should cause my car to die aka shut off.

no your o2 would not cause ur car to die is there lots of smoke comming from ur exaust?

[dboysi03]

no clean as day

[dboysi03]

also i ment shouldnt sorry typo

[04bluepearl]

Do you know if your check engine light is on because of the primary or secondary 02 sensor?

[dboysi03]

well its the one you can put like a spark plug spacer on to turn the check engine light off i had one of them replaced that cause my car to go into lag mode, sorry my memory is not well on my o2 sensors

[04bluepearl]

That would be your secondary o2 sensor which would not the cause of your problem. How many miles on the car? With your key in the on position without the engine running can you hear your fuel pump pumping? Its also not a bad idea to pull at least one of your spark plugs to check the condition, and check your fuse box to check for blown fuses.

[dboysi03]

oh yea fuses might be it i also thought spark plugs but just changed them today and it didnt work also i have 114000 miles on it.

[dboysi03]

and fuel pump is pumping. the car comes on for like 10 seconds the dies everytime i try.

[04bluepearl]

What type of plugs did you install? Sounds like its pointing more twords a fuel issue like you said you thought it was. I think it would be good to scan the car to make sure there aren't any codes present other than the one for your secondary o2 sensor.

[dboysi03]

ngk plugs bought from auto part store the only kind they had for it. yea i was going to do that tomorrow. but more help the better on here. i dont want to pay a mechanic like 600 to replace a fuel pump unless i need to.

[04bluepearl]

Ok those plugs should be fine. And deff don't pay anyone 600 to install a fuel pump! Even if you need a new one, installing it yourself is a snap! I won't be able to give a 100% diagnosis without looking at it myself but it sounds like a fuel pump. If you can get it to an auto parts store that has a scan tool defiantly do that. Since the cel is on for the secondary o2 sensor there's no way to know of other trouble codes that may be present.

[dboysi03]

yeah it might not be 600 most likely less cause its easy to get to. you dont have to drop out the gas tank to get to it. so i know the fuel pump is like 130 so range with labor might be 250 300 we will see. ty for the help ill post more when i find what it is thats wrong. If you have more help bring it my way please.

[dboysi03]

also on getting valves adjusted do you have to do that at 100000 miles cause thats another question i have to ask.

[04bluepearl]

No problem man, diagnosing car problems is what I do. Your right, the fuel pump is super easy to get to. Right under the backs seat. I would be willing to bet that your car is throwing more codes then just the secondary o2. Dumb question but your car has gas in it right? Haha, I only ask because I've seen it happen before.

[dboysi03]

yes and gas caps on tight lol checked that to. no leaking under car either. ive ran out of gas driving once lol and it was the heaviest car ever to push even for a little hatch. lol

[04bluepearl]

Haha ok good. And yeah, our cars are super heavy for civic hatchbacks! After your car dies will it start right back up? The only other thing i can think of is the alternator is not putting enough voltage to the battery to keep it charged.

[dboysi03]

yea it starts right up then does it again then the check engine light blinks at me.

[04bluepearl]

Well other than having it scanned to check for codes, I'm all out of ideas. Hopefully some other ephatchers can think of something!

[dboysi03]

thanks man we will see hope for the best. :)

[SkareKrow]

also on getting valves adjusted do you have to do that at 100000 miles cause thats another question i have to ask.
Yes Valves should be Adjust by Honda Per Se! At 100,000 Miles! lol I have to get mine done ASAP! Tax Mula LoL! Im at around 128K right now. And would love to see what the solution to your problem is. Good luck man!


No problem man, diagnosing car problems is what I do. Your right, the fuel pump is super easy to get to. Right under the backs seat. I would be willing to bet that your car is throwing more codes then just the secondary o2. Dumb question but your car has gas in it right? Haha, I only ask because I've seen it happen before.
Lol @ Gas question!

[SkareKrow]

Bump :bump: :bump2: for more help!

[dboysi03]

wow i need my valves adjusted then man thats not good and yes the gas question was funny haha.

[dboysi03]

could this whole thing isnt my timing chain maybe?

[vtec racer]

Exhaust could be plugged inside the cat. Try pulling the primary 02 sensor or the cat off then starting it. When i had this problem its because I damaged my catalitic converter (when I had one) and the insides of the cat colapsed inside and plugged the exhaust.

[dboysi03]

ok ill try that the primary is on the back right.

[vtec racer]

Closest to the motor

[vtec racer]

Be prepaired to pull the cat or just pull it to resolve all doubt

[dboysi03]

what does that mean it should be the whole problem.

[SkareKrow]

could this whole thing isnt my timing chain maybe?
if am i correct, When the timing chain goes out, You can turn the car on but you can't move, you can rev it but it won't go anywhere. It just stays there like if your in neutral at a light. d=-) if i stand wrong someone more experience correct me. Thanks :)

[stratwielder]

if am i correct, When the timing chain goes out, You can turn the car on but you can't move, you can rev it but it won't go anywhere. It just stays there like if your in neutral at a light. d=-) if i stand wrong someone more experience correct me. Thanks :)

I'm pretty sure that if your timing chain breaks or goes out, you won't even be able to start it without damaging your engine.

[dboysi03]

well figured out what it was it was the 2 camshaft positioning sensors ordered them and should be here tomorrow. that was the code i was throwing and researched it and its all my problems. thanks to all

[VIZHUNZ02SI]

1 oil pump failure
2 tct failure
3 bother
how it works: oil pressure is generated whe you have suffecent oil levels that is suck up by the oil pump which diverts some oil in a passage to the tct which tighten the chain and prevents it from skipping over the cams. if chain has slack in it either the tct has failed due to broken spring or blunted teeth or chain has stretched.just my 2 cents

[talonXracer]

NEVER assume that there is only a single code, have the codes read, something else could have come up as well.

[dboysi03]

i did and its all because of that piece got the part comin in tomorrow.