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skoolnu
04-02-2010, 03:14 PM
Anyone running this setup? Im thinking of selling my JRSC and getting a rotex...

Lucid Moments
04-02-2010, 04:20 PM
Just so you understand this is not a bolt on kit. What they sell you is a bracket setup that goes in place of your a/c and then you have to sort out the intercooler and other charge piping yourself.

HondaFreak
04-02-2010, 04:57 PM
Also, the S2k's are having "impeller destruction" issue's at high RPM's. Careful, and do tons of research first.

Christian

skoolnu
04-02-2010, 05:12 PM
Just so you understand this is not a bolt on kit. What they sell you is a bracket setup that goes in place of your a/c and then you have to sort out the intercooler and other charge piping yourself.

oh i know, im not scared of minor fab work.

Goodsnacks
04-05-2010, 10:44 AM
Those ones with the impeller destruction.. Are they using the right size pulley? This is the first I've heard of the problem with the rotrex.

MugenReplica
04-05-2010, 11:14 AM
Do it man. You'll not regret the loss of VERY low end of the extreme (turbo) pull of "high end" that the Rotrex creates. Check out www.civictype-r.co.uk to see the comprisons.

jeenyusss
04-05-2010, 03:10 PM
dew it!!!

HondaFreak
04-06-2010, 04:10 PM
Those ones with the impeller destruction.. Are they using the right size pulley? This is the first I've heard of the problem with the rotrex.
Not sure what the situation was. Though it happened to him TWICE. Also, this person is a great tuner and knows his stuff. I don't think he would install anything not suitable. Besides, these things don't come out until it happens to you. Just like nobody knew the '05 JRSC wasn't CARB legal until I got a state referee ticket. Companies don't broadcast the faults in their products, they just sell it to you and let you deal with it.


dew it!!!

I agree do it. Let us know how "reliable" it is. Happy R&D'ing!

Christian

civichbsi209
04-27-2010, 10:29 AM
The rotrex sc is really nice, speaking from experience you will love it.

ep3moschini
05-04-2010, 12:12 PM
there was a guy at the track on sunday with a rotrex on a k20a doing 480whp and running consistant 11.5's in an eg hatch

ep3moschini
05-04-2010, 12:14 PM
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs505.ash1/29873_10150184915795570_687830569_12150449_367744_ n.jpg

skoolnu
05-04-2010, 04:21 PM
damn. looks like i need to start saving some coin.

Jiyakku2
05-20-2010, 06:49 PM
Also, the S2k's are having "impeller destruction" issue's at high RPM's. Careful, and do tons of research first.

Christian

Not sure where you get your information from but this is a bit far fetched. I work with Oscar Jackson and Oscar Jackson Jr Monday - Friday 8am to 5pm and I have not heard of this at all. Oscar Jackson Jr is in charge of Sales and Customer Service and sits two cubicles away from my desk. The only bitching and complaining I have heard from late is the delay in getting our Rotrex Units from Denmark with all this volcano eruption drama going around in Europe.

This sounds like the BS speculation that comes from S2Ki. If you are talking about the guy I think you are talking about he sent his supercharger in to get looked at because he said it was smoking after he sprayed water on the supercharger unit. Unfortunately science would call that so-called "smoke" steam. The same thing happens when you pull into a do-it yourself car wash and get water on the brake rotors. Superchargers get hot and if you spray water on it, guess what? You get steam but I guess people who don't know any better could interpret that as smoke. If this is the same person then this would be more of a case of user error than anything else.

Jiyakku2
05-20-2010, 07:12 PM
Not sure what the situation was. Though it happened to him TWICE. Also, this person is a great tuner and knows his stuff. I don't think he would install anything not suitable. Besides, these things don't come out until it happens to you. Just like nobody knew the '05 JRSC wasn't CARB legal until I got a state referee ticket. Companies don't broadcast the faults in their products, they just sell it to you and let you deal with it.

That must be why Kraftwerks offers a three year warranty. To sell it to you and then let you "deal with it", or in better words enjoy it, for at least three years.

Goodsnacks
05-20-2010, 09:22 PM
Is the guy with the problems with his Rotrex on this site? I'd like to hear the story first hand.

stage2auto
06-09-2010, 09:18 AM
let me correct that whp its only 360 whp.....
there was a guy at the track on sunday with a rotrex on a k20a doing 480whp and running consistant 11.5's in an eg hatch

stage2auto
06-09-2010, 09:45 AM
http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww119/stage2auto/eg.jpg
http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww119/stage2auto/eg1.jpg
http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww119/stage2auto/Picture356.jpg
http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww119/stage2auto/Picture232.jpg
http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww119/stage2auto/00565266_4051066_3511401_n.jpg

Jiyakku2
06-09-2010, 09:53 AM
^ nice!

chinoman44
06-09-2010, 11:26 AM
i just want to know when we are going to get a kit for are cars that dont require you to remove the A/C. it gets hot in south Florida..

robhep3
06-09-2010, 12:58 PM
i just want to know when we are going to get a kit for are cars that dont require you to remove the A/C. it gets hot in south Florida..

If it's not worth it to drop your AC in exchange for the power, then you don't want it bad enough.

chinoman44
06-09-2010, 10:04 PM
If it's not worth it to drop your AC in exchange for the power, then you don't want it bad enough.

so i guess the s2k guess dont want the power or the honda fit since they get to keep there A/C and not us.

Goodsnacks
06-09-2010, 11:48 PM
Maybe there's a way to relocate the a/c possibly? Or something along those lines... Can the A/C be relocated to where the idler pulley is? Or is it too big?

Jiyakku2
06-10-2010, 08:55 AM
Maybe there's a way to relocate the a/c possibly? Or something along those lines... Can the A/C be relocated to where the idler pulley is? Or is it too big?

That will be way too much work. I mean you could do it but just thinking about the amount of work and custom fabrication necessary to do so is mind boggling. The Kraftwerks 06+ Civic Si kit is due late in the year and once that goes into production, and knowing how K engines are similar in configuration, we will see what parts can transfer over to other applications. The only real issue is engine compartment clearance and whether or not the plumbing, brackets, and what not will have enough clearance. All I know is that the RSX guys will have to cut a hole in their hood like we did on the Hondata RSX if they want to keep their A/C. Hopefully this will not be the case for the EP3 (fingers crossed).

Goodsnacks
06-10-2010, 09:08 PM
There's always the TTS rotrex kit...

chinoman44
06-10-2010, 11:44 PM
There's always the TTS rotrex kit...

whats the TTS rotex kit?

Jiyakku2
06-11-2010, 08:46 AM
There's always the TTS rotrex kit...

The TTS Kit for the EP3 does make great power and does allow for the retention of the factory A/C but keep in mind two things:

1) That kit was specifically designed for the UKDM Civic Type R (K20A2), USDM K20A3 owners will NOT see the same numbers advertised.

2) You will pay a premium for it.

List price for the base Stage 1 is 2500 GB = $3625 US Dollars, Stage 2 + 3 Kits list for 3500 GB = $5,075 US Dollars

AND you still have to provide your own K-Pro (about $1000 US)

AND you still have to get it tuned ($300 +)


whats the TTS rotex kit?

Just like Kraftwerks is the official US Distributor for Rotrex in terms of Import Car Applications, TTS is the UK Distributor. Going further Power Enterprise is the JDM Distributor for Rotrex. Check out the official Rotrex site and their list of aftermarket car applications: http://www.rotrex.com/Home/Supercharger_Experience/Kits_Cars.aspx .

Gilmour
06-11-2010, 09:47 AM
That will be way too much work. I mean you could do it but just thinking about the amount of work and custom fabrication necessary to do so is mind boggling. The Kraftwerks 06+ Civic Si kit is due late in the year and once that goes into production, and knowing how K engines are similar in configuration, we will see what parts can transfer over to other applications. The only real issue is engine compartment clearance and whether or not the plumbing, brackets, and what not will have enough clearance. All I know is that the RSX guys will have to cut a hole in their hood like we did on the Hondata RSX if they want to keep their A/C. Hopefully this will not be the case for the EP3 (fingers crossed).

Thats still in the works? Sure been a long time comming.

Heitzke
06-11-2010, 10:40 AM
2) You will pay a premium for it.


I mean, the basic K-series racekit is $2,700 and it doesn't come with any piping, intercooler, management, etc.

Goodsnacks
06-11-2010, 09:43 PM
The TTS Kit for the EP3 does make great power and does allow for the retention of the factory A/C but keep in mind two things:

1) That kit was specifically designed for the UKDM Civic Type R (K20A2), USDM K20A3 owners will NOT see the same numbers advertised.

2) You will pay a premium for it.

List price for the base Stage 1 is 2500 GB = $3625 US Dollars, Stage 2 + 3 Kits list for 3500 GB = $5,075 US Dollars

AND you still have to provide your own K-Pro (about $1000 US)

AND you still have to get it tuned ($300 +)



Just like Kraftwerks is the official US Distributor for Rotrex in terms of Import Car Applications, TTS is the UK Distributor. Going further Power Enterprise is the JDM Distributor for Rotrex. Check out the official Rotrex site and their list of aftermarket car applications: http://www.rotrex.com/Home/Supercharger_Experience/Kits_Cars.aspx .

I am going to go with the Kraftwerks one myself, but your right, downside on the TTS is the cost, but the plus side is that you get everything you need in the TTS kit.. Besides kpro.

72chevel
07-13-2010, 05:12 AM
Here is an EG from K20a with the SC installed. The problem for us ep3's we don't get that much room!
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh27/72chevel/P1017922.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh27/72chevel/P1017921.jpg

What Do you guys think? Get an intercooler with left and right input/ output and Cut a hole next to the subframe into the radiator support? Or maybe remove the windsheild spray container and go around the corner? Hopefully the SC will actually fit behind the radiator
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh27/72chevel/P1010192.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh27/72chevel/P1010195.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh27/72chevel/P1010193-1.jpg

Goodsnacks
07-13-2010, 09:53 PM
I would say go with a half rad to get the extra room on the intake side.. There still needs to be room for the BOV in that spot.

lordofthesiths
11-04-2010, 01:12 PM
I'd love to get the TTS kit myself.
Don't know why Kraftwerks doesn't make the kit the same way as TTS, with thw SC on top with an extended pully and cutome intake manifold.

SandBagger
11-06-2010, 03:29 PM
I want this set up in my EG. Built bottomed and typeR 11.7 pistons. Shit will do it.

72chevel
11-06-2010, 03:52 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HONDA-CIVIC-EP3-TTS-ROTREX-SUPERCHARGER-CONVERSION-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem5195e806ceQQitemZ35040 7362254QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccesso ries#ht_500wt_749

check out the tts kit for the ep3!!!

skoolnu
11-06-2010, 04:09 PM
yup, its time to ditch the jackson.

SandBagger
11-07-2010, 04:52 AM
Along with the pulley position of thte charger, a oil cooler, a intercooler, and the fact that I can make around 360ish with a small amount of boost....hell yeah

Go_ep3
11-07-2010, 03:20 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HONDA-CIVIC-EP3-TTS-ROTREX-SUPERCHARGER-CONVERSION-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem5195e806ceQQitemZ35040 7362254QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccesso ries#ht_500wt_749

check out the tts kit for the ep3!!!

HHmmm, how much whp will this thing make on a k24a2, any1 know?

72chevel
11-07-2010, 06:12 PM
http://www.tts-performance.com/catalog/content/english/download/civictyperstage2aircon.pdf

Check this out on there website they have a few different options but this one look close they also have a stage 3 here:

http://www.tts-performance.com/catalog/content/english/download/civictyperstage3.pdf

My dream would be use this on the top and use a lower one where the Air compressor is :mtongue:

Jharobikesr2
11-07-2010, 07:04 PM
Here comes the new wave of supercharged ep's hahaha. Crazy setup! Love the fact of the inter-cooler.

Go_ep3
11-07-2010, 08:41 PM
http://www.tts-performance.com/catalog/content/english/download/civictyperstage2aircon.pdf

Check this out on there website they have a few different options but this one look close they also have a stage 3 here:

http://www.tts-performance.com/catalog/content/english/download/civictyperstage3.pdf

My dream would be use this on the top and use a lower one where the Air compressor is :mtongue:

thanks for the info... do it, make it come true. lol twin sc ftw

Goodsnacks
11-08-2010, 11:02 AM
http://www.tts-performance.com/catalog/content/english/download/civictyperstage2aircon.pdf

Check this out on there website they have a few different options but this one look close they also have a stage 3 here:

http://www.tts-performance.com/catalog/content/english/download/civictyperstage3.pdf

My dream would be use this on the top and use a lower one where the Air compressor is :mtongue:

That's what they did to break the landspeed record for front wheel drive... I think it was an RSX they used.

heyvortek
11-08-2010, 11:31 AM
lets see this run a turbo ep. would be a nice lil battle :)

72chevel
11-08-2010, 12:08 PM
I suppose once you get over 3-400 whp it just becomes a tire smoke contest...

j0000stin
11-08-2010, 12:15 PM
The TTS Kit for the EP3 does make great power and does allow for the retention of the factory A/C but keep in mind two things:

1) That kit was specifically designed for the UKDM Civic Type R (K20A2), USDM K20A3 owners will NOT see the same numbers advertised.

2) You will pay a premium for it.

List price for the base Stage 1 is 2500 GB = $3625 US Dollars, Stage 2 + 3 Kits list for 3500 GB = $5,075 US Dollars

AND you still have to provide your own K-Pro (about $1000 US)

AND you still have to get it tuned ($300 +)



Just like Kraftwerks is the official US Distributor for Rotrex in terms of Import Car Applications, TTS is the UK Distributor. Going further Power Enterprise is the JDM Distributor for Rotrex. Check out the official Rotrex site and their list of aftermarket car applications: http://www.rotrex.com/Home/Supercharger_Experience/Kits_Cars.aspx .

damn for that price id rather get a k24a1 swap and turbo it ;/

03Si757
11-08-2010, 05:57 PM
Im sold on the TTS Kit. Ima look into the stage 2 for my k24a1/a2 build...

JIYAKKU
11-08-2010, 07:19 PM
HHmmm, how much whp will this thing make on a k24a2, any1 know?

From what I remember working with Kraftwerks, a stock K24A2 with a C38-61 Rotrex unit (the smallest version of the biggest size) averaged around 410 whp on a dynojet. Most of the guys who are running the K-Race kits are from the East Coast as us West Coast guys are 1) Too snobby to part with our A/C units and/or 2) Can't afford it with all the custom work that needs to be done. Needless to say I can vouch for both.

j0000stin
11-08-2010, 07:27 PM
Along with the pulley position of thte charger, a oil cooler, a intercooler, and the fact that I can make around 360ish with a small amount of boost....hell yeah

not on an a3. EVAR!

Go_ep3
11-08-2010, 08:12 PM
From what I remember working with Kraftwerks, a stock K24A2 with a C38-61 Rotrex unit (the smallest version of the biggest size) averaged around 410 whp on a dynojet. Most of the guys who are running the K-Race kits are from the East Coast as us West Coast guys are 1) Too snobby to part with our A/C units and/or 2) Can't afford it with all the custom work that needs to be done. Needless to say I can vouch for both.

cool, thanks..

SandBagger
11-09-2010, 07:20 AM
Both K24 and K20 love this kit. It helps the K24a2 volumetric efficiency where the Tq falls off fast and the K20 loves all the added growing TQ til redline. this kit rocks and is worth the fab. To get turbo numbers from a blower is sick. Not to mention it is easier to spin than a JRSC model and is self cooled

Goodsnacks
11-10-2010, 11:22 AM
Here is an EG from K20a with the SC installed. The problem for us ep3's we don't get that much room!
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh27/72chevel/P1017922.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh27/72chevel/P1017921.jpg

What Do you guys think? Get an intercooler with left and right input/ output and Cut a hole next to the subframe into the radiator support? Or maybe remove the windsheild spray container and go around the corner? Hopefully the SC will actually fit behind the radiator
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh27/72chevel/P1010192.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh27/72chevel/P1010195.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh27/72chevel/P1010193-1.jpg

Where is the BOV located? I thought it's suppose to be between the rotrex and the inlet side of the intercooler.

72chevel
11-10-2010, 12:36 PM
Yea I believe the owner was test fitting pipes when the picture was taken.

72chevel
11-10-2010, 01:06 PM
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh27/72chevel/MVC-001S.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh27/72chevel/MVC-002S.jpg

Check out this blower I was working on today on a machine at work!

Twisted-X
11-10-2010, 03:14 PM
From what I remember working with Kraftwerks, a stock K24A2 with a C38-61 Rotrex unit (the smallest version of the biggest size) averaged around 410 whp on a dynojet. Most of the guys who are running the K-Race kits are from the East Coast as us West Coast guys are 1) Too snobby to part with our A/C units and/or 2) Can't afford it with all the custom work that needs to be done. Needless to say I can vouch for both.

Just out of curiosity, what size injectors are people using with the stock k24A2 and C38-61?

moonsi
11-10-2010, 04:09 PM
Ive been saving up for the kraftwerk kit, hope to get it by end of this year :)

TTS kit looks real nice, with complete radiator and intercooler system!

dkid15
11-10-2010, 08:34 PM
So your trying to tell me that theres an AC compatible rotrex setup?

dkid15
11-10-2010, 08:53 PM
IDK man. I think that you will end up paying around 5 grand + install and tune. You might pay 2700 for the race and 700 for other goodies + tune and install. Might as well use the leftover money to get a daily and sacrafice the AC in your ep3.

SandBagger
11-13-2010, 12:27 AM
K20a.org has some threads on this. Depending on engine and blower 300-400whp easy on low boost

JIYAKKU
11-18-2010, 11:31 PM
Just out of curiosity, what size injectors are people using with the stock k24A2 and C38-61?

The S2000 complete kit runs on 650cc Injectors but that is with a C30-94. I would imagine that the 650s would still be sufficient though.

lordofthesiths
12-15-2010, 06:45 PM
I so want this set up with a K24.
I love the fact that you don't need a BOV because its after the throttle body.
I don't like their radiator/inter-cooler set up. Think i'd get the kit without it.

Goodsnacks
12-16-2010, 04:11 PM
Has anybody seen the info on the new Rotrak supercharger?

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f400/goodsnacks/76f0ca4a.jpg

http://www.torotrak.com/pdfs/tech_papers/2010/Introducing-the-Rotrak-variable-speed%20traction-drive-centrifugal-supercharger.pdf

gtimportfanatic
12-21-2010, 10:03 PM
i want the front bumper in ^ your avatar.. does anyone know what it is?

superchargedk20
12-22-2010, 01:08 AM
whos bumper are u lookin at?

gtimportfanatic
12-22-2010, 05:46 AM
Go_Ep3 .. lol

nvm tho.. i found out who makes it and how much it is.. its not that serious lol... 1100 dollars plus shipping? lol im good

superchargedk20
12-22-2010, 01:24 PM
it would look fresh with ur big intercooler on it lol

Go_ep3
12-25-2010, 02:24 AM
haha yeah its a grip...

MadLorEP3
01-05-2011, 11:30 PM
ddamn...nice

dont know jack about SC's
Does this kit come complete or is there any fab work involved?

NEEDS CUSTOM FAB WORK

udontknowjack
01-10-2011, 05:34 PM
complete kit
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HONDA-CIVIC-EP3-TTS-ROTREX-SUPERCHARGER-CONVERSION-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem5195e806ceQQitemZ35040 7362254QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccesso ries#ht_500wt_749

or diy
http://www.shop.kraftwerksusa.com/category.sc;jsessionid=5637EB3BA3435E7646CC96015DE 00807.qscstrfrnt03?categoryId=6

1fasthb
02-13-2011, 08:25 PM
5k for a supercharger kit lmao get real who ever pays that is just plain stupid, person must have more money then brain's b/c that price is completly stupid and over priced, i love this kit and looks really nice but 5k get real

skoolnu
02-14-2011, 10:33 AM
5k for a supercharger kit lmao get real who ever pays that is just plain stupid, person must have more money then brain's b/c that price is completly stupid and over priced, i love this kit and looks really nice but 5k get real

for the power it makes, id have to say its worth it.

1fasthb
02-14-2011, 10:56 AM
dont forget another 1k+ for kpro and then paying for the custom work as well :( i would get this if it was around 3k max, 5k+ is just yea

skoolnu
02-14-2011, 02:59 PM
5 grand gets you a full setup, no custom shit needed. the dyi for 2700 involves custom work, which really isnt much. I have kpro, so that grand has been spent. haha. if i can get someone to buy my JRSC ill be getting the rotex.

udontknowjack
02-14-2011, 03:33 PM
5 grand gets you a full setup, no custom shit needed. the dyi for 2700 involves custom work, which really isnt much. I have kpro, so that grand has been spent. haha. if i can get someone to buy my JRSC ill be getting the rotex.

I haven't got a pm back from u how much u selling hrs JRSC??

skoolnu
02-14-2011, 04:46 PM
shit my bad...