awd swap [Archive]

ShadowEP3

04-04-2010, 08:10 PM

just curious, has anyone ever successfully done this? or even attempted?

i doubt it..thats gonna be a lot of money going into the car..youd probably be better off buying an AWD car

Deadphishy

04-04-2010, 08:12 PM

hahaha, the EP has zero clearance for a drive shaft, or transfer case. I'm sure it can be done, but would cost way to much money. I've never herd of anyone doing it. Just people dreaming.

Sorry guys, this isn't forza 2.

Onasty

04-04-2010, 09:16 PM

Sorry guys, this isn't forza 2.
juss made my night lol

love559

04-04-2010, 10:11 PM

i was just asking my friend about this wondering if anyone has done this or thot of it. figured itll be a pretty penny and better off with and sti or evo.itll be pretty clean to have it but retarded and a waste to spend it to have done on a ep3.... but than again... ill be down to do it hahaha

dirtyMETHOD

04-05-2010, 09:14 AM

would be a blast to drive

makavelibranded

04-05-2010, 09:47 AM

Sorry guys, this isn't forza 2.

1st thing I thought when I read the title. Its sad what videogames and movies can do to the car scene.

Kerby

04-05-2010, 10:10 AM

how about just buying a decent CRV with rediculous milage on it.
junk the body and transplant the EP3 body on it.

it's a thought....

RedSiBaron

04-05-2010, 10:43 AM

jpax would need to chime in on this one

kprocivic

04-05-2010, 10:53 AM

yeah jpax tried this and it was a no go. something to do with the tranny if i remember correctly.

edit maybe he didnt but he did try and use that engine
http://www.ephatch.com/forum/showthread.php?46490-RDX-K23-Engine-info&highlight=

RedSiBaron

04-05-2010, 12:34 PM

2k3hatchie

04-07-2010, 06:40 AM

If I ever win the lottery I am going to make this happen. Otherwise, it's just a dream... but you know what they say, the power of dreams:mwink:

Deadphishy

04-07-2010, 04:34 PM

It would be cool to basicly take the EP apart, and Customizes the frame. You can go Wider on the wheel wells, and hack-up the underside to run the driveshaft. You will also have to fab up a much stronger rear end to handle the shock.

I think it would be funny to take the front end of an EP and move it to the back. Put the motor in the back, using modded front control arms and Knuckles to run the axles the same way they do with the front. Cut and reweld it so it fits. Shouldn't be too hard

Twisted-X

04-08-2010, 06:03 PM

If you're going that far, you might as well just keep the motor and trans in the front and put another set in the back. You could use Accord automatics or something. I saw this done in a car magazine (http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/car/00q3/mosler_twinstar_eldorado-specialty_file) years ago with a Cadillac that had two Northstar V8s in it. 8-)

starwars_ep3

04-09-2010, 02:41 PM

do it then!!!

Jpax

04-10-2010, 03:22 AM

there was something to do with the mounts i think...

this is a major fab project any way you look at it, no bolt in here...

if it were me, id pick a transmission that bolted up and did awd and then custom fab up some mounts and then do an all custom drive train back to a racing rear end...something heavy duty that i can fab up to...but then at that point id be considering doing a tube frame front end and tube frame rear subframe and just making my life easier than fighting with the structure honda gave me...but then again, i am crazy

if you want to use RSX K23 block you can use a Accord Manual 6 speed transmission and it will bolt up to the K23 block. but mounts can be bought though HASPORT they have some mounts if you want do go that route- if i remember right he has mounts for the V6 motors too for Ep3

Twisted-X

04-10-2010, 05:03 PM

-sarc sammich

ginger

04-14-2010, 06:31 AM

there is a 91 hatch in chicago that runs 2 d-series auto trans,
there is also i 98 4dr with a awd crv b-series 5 spd. in arizona cool car but his stock k20a2 em2 is faster.

it can be done it is expensive and it wont look stock interior wise or even close. but if u have 10k and want to do an older chassis with a b-series or d-series, i say go for it. i know a want too... but ill go 91 hatch with a modified wagovan drive train. but im looking at 8k and will still have a d-series. if the spirit moves me in the next 10 years and i can find parts and i get my ep3 out the garage. maybe one day i will

WigginsSiR

04-14-2010, 01:00 PM

my buddy ryan aka the mad scientist did this in a crx....

he used a ls block w/ a b16 head, crv trans, modded crv drive shaft.. axles and he custom made a rear suspension and triangulated it.

he got it all together and wanted to test his work.

he launched the thing at redline and it would just churp and f'n haul ass. not sure what happend to the car but it was pretty sick

ep3moschini

04-14-2010, 02:24 PM

Im still trying to tune my NSX cams. . . :msmile:

Stanz0r

04-14-2010, 02:54 PM

Im still trying to tune my NSX cams. . . :msmile:

I emailed you my tune for it. 200 hp and 500 ft/lbs torque

siege911

04-19-2010, 08:06 PM

For what it's worth, if it did exist, it would be on youtube.

LOL quote of the last decade right there.

As has been said, would be cool... but... $$$

thehulme

04-19-2010, 08:24 PM

honda tuning magazine (or similar) did this with a DC2 several years ago using CRV parts. It was extremely expensive, required lots and lots of fabrication (adding a driveshaft tunnel for starters), and didn't really end up working well/reliably. not saying its impossible, but its definitely not practical or economical.

sidriverep3

04-22-2010, 07:40 AM

actually their dc2 worked great. the awd didnt work well so the converted it to rwd and had better results. it was dirt cheap. they used all parts from a crv and just welded the rest together. if you can weld it wouldnt be that hard at all. everyone says that its expensive....have you done it? its dirt cheap, easy, and if you can weld good and know how to wrench, go for it. they are out there too....even if its not on youtube...lol. ive seen one so far. ;) i am doing the conversion too but im on hold for another year until i can finish my one ton TJ. make jeep friends, once you build a tube chassis and design the whole suspention, an awd or rwd swap into an ep seems kinda trivial.

hth you do the swap.

Adam

Emjay

04-22-2010, 07:49 AM

My Honda mechanic friend hacked a CRX and put all the bits from an AWD civic wagon in it.
The thing is awesome, still running and doing great.
He now has a totalled CRV and told me he's ready to do the same to my EP when I'm ready.
I figured I'd have a go when I'm ready to get a new car. Maybe in a year or two.

JCEM

04-22-2010, 08:05 AM

Or do like Renault did when they did the Clio V6 sport...tear out the back seats and make it mid-engined.

robhep3

04-22-2010, 10:29 AM

Could one not potentially utilise the AWD system out of the Element or CRV, since their suspension setup is quite similar to ours?

SHHEP3@UB

04-22-2010, 11:27 AM

This guy tried it :

http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2763036

Twisted-X

04-22-2010, 03:02 PM

This guy tried it :

http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2763036

Awesome.

vboy127

04-22-2010, 03:47 PM

Awesome.

x2

Epic in so many ways. haha

beechstreet

04-22-2010, 04:56 PM

This guy tried it :

http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2763036
i wish i had that sorta talent and craftmanship

Heitzke

04-22-2010, 06:15 PM

This guy tried it :

http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2763036

holy. shit. That is so damn cool. There are very few things that I see on car forums that make me yell out loud. I can't even believe how cool that is.

njpnoy05

04-24-2010, 08:36 AM

that's so tits!

thehulme

04-24-2010, 11:09 AM

thats the way to go.

kyoo

04-26-2010, 06:28 PM

hahaha, the ep has zero clearance for a drive shaft, or transfer case. I'm sure it can be done, but would cost way to much money. I've never herd of anyone doing it. Just people dreaming.

Sorry guys, this isn't forza 2.

lol

cukali

04-27-2010, 12:59 PM

http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2618576

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5V7rl3djXA

http://www.streetfire.net/video/civic-turbo-awd-convertion_195857.htm

I also looked into making an AWD EP3. It would NOT be hard as some say. I have measure the CRV struts/suspension and they are nearly the same. From what I listed so far, CRV rear axle hubs and struts will bolt to the EP3 body with little moddification. Relocate the gas tank. CRV Tranny will bolt to the A3 but best to use the CRV tranny (5 speed). Custom drive shaft and cut the tunnel which would be the hardest part.

Kanzen Taichou

04-30-2010, 05:57 AM

All I can say is......well I can't really say anything! Maybe superb fits the bill.

Emjay

04-30-2010, 06:19 AM

I also looked into making an AWD EP3. It would NOT be hard as some say. I have measure the CRV struts/suspension and they are nearly the same. From what I listed so far, CRV rear axle hubs and struts will bolt to the EP3 body with little moddification. Relocate the gas tank. CRV Tranny will bolt to the A3 but best to use the CRV tranny (5 speed). Custom drive shaft and cut the tunnel which would be the hardest part.

That's basically what my mechanic friend said. The biggest mod is making space for the drive shaft.

cukali

05-19-2010, 11:13 AM

That's basically what my mechanic friend said. The biggest mod is making space for the drive shaft.

Yes. Driveshaft is the hardest. I would go two or three piece drive shaft to the rear.

4lugSLUG

05-24-2010, 07:23 PM

Time/money/parts < buy a f*ckin awd car. sounds good but unrealistic imho. sorry

coil222

03-02-2011, 10:46 PM

Didn't read 2nd/3rd page but wouldn't the EP's flat floor pretty much make running a driveshaft to the rear wheels near impossible?

talonXracer

03-03-2011, 05:53 AM

Well if you took the time to read, then you would see the subject was discussed!

ImportCustomx

03-03-2011, 06:14 AM

first off...

nothing is impossible. its a matter of your, in this order, Funds,Talent, time, and space.

If i had the money i could make this work.

You want to see an inspiring fab thread...check this out.
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=332026&page=1
thats a real thread! tons of pics, tons of explanation..this guy does it right. we need more posts like this!

Also i moved this to EP Swaps only where it belongs.