Debating whether to go TURBO or SC

[jerryscherry]

2002 Ep3 83kmiles on k20a3

Im having mixed reviews after reading mixed reviews about turbos and superchargers.

My goal for a turbo is to make least 220-280whp and make the motor last at least to 200k on stock internals. Is this a easily achievable goal if done correctly the first time?

i've been wanting to hear feedback who have had turbos on their ep3 for 3+years and what their experiences are.

[Sucka]

220-280whp you might want to go turbo instead of jrsc. In my opinion i would do motor swap and jrsc. If you want a ride in my jrsc let me know.

[jerryscherry]

220-280whp you might want to go turbo instead of jrsc. In my opinion i would do motor swap and jrsc. If you want a ride in my jrsc let me know.

oh nice what kind of motor u have in your car?

[Distance]

oh nice what kind of motor u have in your car?

stock a3.

[catlin]

For the hp you want to make I would go with a turbo.

[gtimportfanatic]

ss/c =waste of money on a3 for power

[jerryscherry]

haha my only concern is how long the motor gonna last on mild boost. i pick reliability over performance, gonna be my dd for at least the next 4 years driving about 10k+ miles a year.

im juss concerned. i know stock honda motors were built to last 200k + miles EASILY, what bout when introduceed to a mild forced induction?

[jerryscherry]

ss/c =waste of money on a3 for power

and i forgetr were you the one that had a post bout your dyno and posted up your build?

[ManManning]

go turbo!!

[jeenyusss]

turbo for that power. but for a dd and it being your only car i would just a2 swap. im paranoid though.

[RHCP0801]

i made more power on my na setup than a jrsc with powercard and not far off from a race kit so i would go turbo

[dkid15]

Go turbo. Its not like if your motor blows your out big money. Another k20a3 would run no more than 500 dollars. Hell a k24a4 is like 900 shipped right?

[dobbs02si]

haha my only concern is how long the motor gonna last on mild boost. i pick reliability over performance, gonna be my dd for at least the next 4 years driving about 10k+ miles a year.

im juss concerned. i know stock honda motors were built to last 200k + miles EASILY, what bout when introduceed to a mild forced induction?

Bought my ep with 28k..First kit(Cybernation) I threw on it was at 41k, I kept that untill 124k. That was in a 3yr window. Next I built a new manifold and upgraded my snail at 124k, this setup is at 136k. All this on a stock motor. The CN kit dynoed 306/247, I dd'ed that. My newest setup is stronger that that, no dyno to 'prove it', but my ass doesnt lie lol. Current oil consumption is between a quart or just over in the 5k oil change window.

And the only 3 seals that have been broke are the oil pan(drilled for return), exaust mani(to install snail), and valve cover(to check valve clearance at 130k).

All this is still on Gaurdian Em for all the haters *cough GOLAN cough*. lol.

[jeenyusss]

impressive dobbs!!

[superchargedk20]

just read my quote after my user name. end of story

[Distance]

i have a jrsc-r and its a waste of money. if i could do it all over again i would swap then SC. im currently making 235hp/180tq. its decent for a daily but nothing amazing.

[superchargedk20]

i have a jrsc-r and its a waste of money. if i could do it all over again i would swap then SC. im currently making 235hp/180tq. its decent for a daily but nothing amazing.

JRSC= fail for tq. 180 is what i made on my jrsc with boltons and cams, Just plain terrible. Now just a basic revhard kit with a cheap k24a1 that i got for under 1k. 306 ft -tq on only 11 psi. Thats a win!

[Distance]

JRSC= fail for tq. 180 is what i made on my jrsc with boltons and cams, Just plain terrible. Now just a basic revhard kit with a cheap k24a1 that i got for under 1k. 306 ft -tq on only 11 psi. Thats a win!

true. but ill still stand by with the sc with just a better motor lool. i want a k24a2

[Distance]

JRSC= fail for tq. 180 is what i made on my jrsc with boltons and cams, Just plain terrible. Now just a basic revhard kit with a cheap k24a1 that i got for under 1k. 306 ft -tq on only 11 psi. Thats a win!

true. but ill still stand by with the sc but would need a better motor lool. i want a k24a2

[vbpracer]

Go turbo. Its not like if your motor blows your out big money. Another k20a3 would run no more than 500 dollars. Hell a k24a4 is like 900 shipped right?

You forget that you'll have to get kpro too, the cost will add up doing that.


just read my quote after my user name. end of story


true. but ill still stand by with the sc with just a better motor lool. i want a k24a2

To supercharge the k20a3 is a waste of money, I had the 'street kit' for a year before upgrading to the 'race kit'. After having spend the money on all that, and producing the power I was, I must say I was embarrased. Not being able to keep up with stock cars after having spend all that money was a shame.

Now to supercharge a k24 is well worth it, there is a lot more potential, adding the right bolt ons, yet still have a reliable setup. I know have a supercharged k24a2, with good bolt ons, and it was definately worth the money. I still maintain a reliable setup this way.

[Distance]

You forget that you'll have to get kpro too, the cost will add up doing that.





To supercharge the k20a3 is a waste of money, I had the 'street kit' for a year before upgrading to the 'race kit'. After having spend the money on all that, and producing the power I was, I must say I was embarrased. Not being able to keep up with stock cars after having spend all that money was a shame.

Now to supercharge a k24 is well worth it, there is a lot more potential, adding the right bolt ons, yet still have a reliable setup. I know have a supercharged k24a2, with good bolt ons, and it was definately worth the money. I still maintain a reliable setup this way.

lol im currently saving up. and yes its pretty sad what kinda power the a3 makes with a jrsc.

[superchargedk20]

You forget that you'll have to get kpro too, the cost will add up doing that.





To supercharge the k20a3 is a waste of money, I had the 'street kit' for a year before upgrading to the 'race kit'. After having spend the money on all that, and producing the power I was, I must say I was embarrased. Not being able to keep up with stock cars after having spend all that money was a shame.

Now to supercharge a k24 is well worth it, there is a lot more potential, adding the right bolt ons, yet still have a reliable setup. I know have a supercharged k24a2, with good bolt ons, and it was definately worth the money. I still maintain a reliable setup this way.

Just wondering but even with the JRSC on ur k24 whats an average tq number?

[vbpracer]

Average about 225 at about 7 psi, at 9+ about 240. Different setups, different numbers.

[superchargedk20]

blah. Turbo and add the Tq lol

[PAPITUYO326]

On the a3, a simple turbo kit (greddy, CN, RevHard, InlinePro, TD-Autowerks) is very safe and a much bigger bang for your buck than the JRSC.

A swapped car, whether it be a k24a1, a k20a2, or k24a2 will benefit from a JRSC much more than the a3. The one thing the JRSC has going for it is simplicity.