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jerryscherry
06-04-2010, 03:00 PM
Im running tein s tech springs and tokicko d specs with the oem rims. about 1.5in drop


i wanna get new rims. at first i thought 17's were too big, but they on the ep3 type r's so why not.

i looked into the buddy club p-1 sf challenge rims.

17x7.0 + 42

or

17x7.0 + 48?

just want it to fit right with no rub with my current drop, not looking for agressive offset. Just "normal" fit? I have no idea what the offset numbers mean -_- .


and what kind of tires should i be running?

thisisagame24
06-04-2010, 03:06 PM
im running 17x7.5 with 215/45 tires. im running the mugen ss which is a like a 1.6 drop. the wheels arent tucked but close. like a finger gap

HondaFreak
06-04-2010, 03:25 PM
The offset, measured in millimeters, can be negative or positive, and is the distance from the hub-mounting surface to the rim's true centerline. A positive offset means the hub-mounting surface is closer to the outside edge of the wheel, i.e. the wheel wraps around the hub and brake hardware more deeply; a negative offset means the hub-mounting surface is closer to the inside edge of the wheel and wheel sticks outwards more than inwards. When selecting aftermarket wheels, a wheel with too little positive offset will be closer to the fender, and one with too much positive offset will be closer to the suspension components. Wheel width, offset and tire size all determine the way a particular wheel/tire combination will work on a given car. Offset also affects the scrub radius of the steering and it is advisable to stay within the limits allowed by the vehicle manufacturer. Because wheel offset changes the lever-arm length between the center of the tire and the centerline of the steering knuckle, the way bumps, road imperfections and acceleration and braking forces are translated to steering torques (bump-steer, torque-steer, etc) will change depending on wheel offset. Likewise, the wheel bearings will see increased thrust loads if the wheel centerline is moved away from the bearing centerline.

27rocks
06-04-2010, 03:39 PM
The offset, measured in millimeters, can be negative or positive, and is the distance from the hub-mounting surface to the rim's true centerline. A positive offset means the hub-mounting surface is closer to the outside edge of the wheel, i.e. the wheel wraps around the hub and brake hardware more deeply; a negative offset means the hub-mounting surface is closer to the inside edge of the wheel and wheel sticks outwards more than inwards. When selecting aftermarket wheels, a wheel with too little positive offset will be closer to the fender, and one with too much positive offset will be closer to the suspension components. Wheel width, offset and tire size all determine the way a particular wheel/tire combination will work on a given car. Offset also affects the scrub radius of the steering and it is advisable to stay within the limits allowed by the vehicle manufacturer. Because wheel offset changes the lever-arm length between the center of the tire and the centerline of the steering knuckle, the way bumps, road imperfections and acceleration and braking forces are translated to steering torques (bump-steer, torque-steer, etc) will change depending on wheel offset. Likewise, the wheel bearings will see increased thrust loads if the wheel centerline is moved away from the bearing centerline.
Bwahahaha stop confusing people Christian.

HondaFreak
06-04-2010, 03:57 PM
Is my sense making too much sense? Lol I'll stop and let people do it wrong. Get zero offset dude.

Christian

hondaguy92129
06-04-2010, 04:44 PM
I was noobing up the suspension forums earlier with a bunch of junk and someone posted a wheel offset calculator.

http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp

Doesnt tell you whether your new wheels fit or not but atleast it tells you what the change will be.

27rocks
06-05-2010, 10:09 AM
Is my sense making too much sense? Lol I'll stop and let people do it wrong. Get zero offset dude.

Christian

LOL you know the average person will look at that and go... WTF??!!! hahaha

jerryscherry
06-05-2010, 10:39 AM
wow thanks hondafreak for that explanation lol. so im guessin ima prob go with the +42s then (juss realized they dont have a +48 for the 4lug 17in's ). hmm what tires should i go with? 215 / 45's?

Mighty_Mouse_Ep
06-05-2010, 11:05 AM
i would say 215/45/17 or you could even go 225/45/17. The 215/45/17 is the stock size honda puts on the 17x7 HFP wheels that would be the most accurate

DRP967
06-05-2010, 03:13 PM
wow thanks hondafreak for that explanation lol. so im guessin ima prob go with the +42s then (juss realized they dont have a +48 for the 4lug 17in's ). hmm what tires should i go with? 215 / 45's?

The OEM tire size for the 17 inch HFP wheels for the 02-05 USDM EP3 is 215/45/17. If you opt for a different tire size ie. 225/45/17 then your revs per mile will go from 819 (215 tire size) to 808 (225 tire size). A difference of 1.4 %. I got this information from the Miata tire size calculator...basically your speedo will be off and you will either acquire miles faster or slower than the norm. Initially i wanted to run 16s on my 05 EP3 but i couldnt accept the friggin balloon tire size of 205/55/16. 55 series are sofa king meaty...wtf. I was tempted to say fudge it and just run 205/45/16 but i didnt wanna screw up my revs per mile/speedo accuracy. So i decided on 17s...at least then i would be running 45 series tires...not rubber band status but not balloony either...its all good. 17s look goof on EP3s, just gotta have zero fender gap. 18s are to damn big/heavy and should be avoided unless you want your EP3 to look like a hot wheels car.

jerryscherry
06-07-2010, 11:34 AM
The OEM tire size for the 17 inch HFP wheels for the 02-05 USDM EP3 is 215/45/17. If you opt for a different tire size ie. 225/45/17 then your revs per mile will go from 819 (215 tire size) to 808 (225 tire size). A difference of 1.4 %. I got this information from the Miata tire size calculator...basically your speedo will be off and you will either acquire miles faster or slower than the norm. Initially i wanted to run 16s on my 05 EP3 but i couldnt accept the friggin balloon tire size of 205/55/16. 55 series are sofa king meaty...wtf. I was tempted to say fudge it and just run 205/45/16 but i didnt wanna screw up my revs per mile/speedo accuracy. So i decided on 17s...at least then i would be running 45 series tires...not rubber band status but not balloony either...its all good. 17s look goof on EP3s, just gotta have zero fender gap. 18s are to damn big/heavy and should be avoided unless you want your EP3 to look like a hot wheels car.

hah yeah iu was debating between 16 and 17, but since type r's have the 17's it wouldn't look too big. thanks for the big explanation, im liek retarded when it comes to wheels and tires and all that shizz. so i guess ill go with the stock hfp tire size 215/45/17's ;D. so are you running 215/45's?

DRP967
06-07-2010, 02:52 PM
hah yeah iu was debating between 16 and 17, but since type r's have the 17's it wouldn't look too big. thanks for the big explanation, im liek retarded when it comes to wheels and tires and all that shizz. so i guess ill go with the stock hfp tire size 215/45/17's ;D. so are you running 215/45's?

^Yeah i agree, CTRs look good with 17s and so do our EP3s. 215/45/17...ya cant go wrong. And to answer your question yes i have some 215/45/17 tires on 06 Rsx Type S wheels. :-)

EpThreeD
06-07-2010, 05:27 PM
All sounds good.