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jdmpendeho
06-30-2010, 11:14 AM
im tired of my k20a3 , i dont know if i should boost it or just go for dc5 type r swap. help me my fellow ep3 owners.

lbk02si
06-30-2010, 11:41 AM
swap then boost :)

Passenger
06-30-2010, 11:48 AM
buy 5,000 McChickens

thisisagame24
06-30-2010, 11:54 AM
finish paying the car off

jdmpendeho
06-30-2010, 12:31 PM
tha car is paid off , i also wanted to just get tha a2 head and just boost it urghh dont know want to dooo , hahah i deff dont want 5k Mcchicken

mugen03
06-30-2010, 12:45 PM
ask yourself this....self......do i have kpro? if you answered no to this question start there, if you answered yes move on to a k24a2

jdmpendeho
06-30-2010, 12:53 PM
NA my ep3 is bone stock. im deff gettin kpro .dont kno to get k24a2 k20a1 or just get a2 head and boosting it i dont kno i might just get that dc5 type r swap, and put my k20a3 motor on a ek9

chiwhitesi
06-30-2010, 12:56 PM
what are your plans for the car?

jdmpendeho
06-30-2010, 01:07 PM
well here or some ideas
1.boost my stock motor
2.k24 swap/boost
3.dc5 type R swap
4.supercharge a3

mugen03
06-30-2010, 01:11 PM
option 2 this thread can now be closed lol

T_Virus
06-30-2010, 01:17 PM
if you can't decide swap or boost then go with both, swap and boost.

jdmpendeho
06-30-2010, 01:17 PM
ok made up my mind type r swap coming soon=p , and boost tha k20a3 and drop it on maybe a ek or teggi shell

thisisagame24
06-30-2010, 01:30 PM
like most said before.... you want to swap and boost. do the swap first then boost later. i love my k20a2. one of the best mods done to my car

AUTiger
06-30-2010, 01:33 PM
DO NOT do a type-r swap. Way overpriced for the performance. Just get a k20a2 if you are not going to boost it. I would have gone k24a4 or k24a1 and turbo. OR put that 5k into a better swap for the ek or teg.

RedSiBaron
06-30-2010, 02:19 PM
DO NOT do a type-r swap. Way overpriced for the performance. Just get a k20a2 if you are not going to boost it. I would have gone k24a4 or k24a1 and turbo. OR put that 5k into a better swap for the ek or teg.

over priced as in 500 bucks more than a k20a2 swap? :mrolleyes:

the type r swap is the best option if you arent looking to build a motor, if you want to dick with the engine, then an k20a2 or k24 swap is better...

jri93
06-30-2010, 02:33 PM
eugh these setups all sound so repetitive.... why not do somthing more interesting..... how about... k24a1 with vtec killer cams and turbo :D

AUTiger
06-30-2010, 03:01 PM
hmotorsonline has a k20a swap with motor, tranny, and ecu for 5,299 plus shipping. If someone paid 4799 for a k20a2 swap including tranny and ecu they got RAPED!!!

a2 swaps with tranny go for 3200shipped, then get k-pro for 860shipped and you are still ahead by a grand and now tuned would trounce a type-r swap on stock ecu. Plus if you ever had a reason to break 110mph you could laugh at the type-r as it hits the governor.

I do agree, pick up a k24a1 or a4, add a2 cams for a vtec killer setup and toss a turbo on it. Now before someone says you can't put a2 cams in an a4, it has already been done, just don't go past 45* vtc.

Most of all, have fun spending the money, I was looking forward to spending 3-4k this year on a swap and boost, but my honeymoon took all that away from me.

Gilmour
06-30-2010, 05:12 PM
I'd start by properly boosting the stock motor, as it's already in there. Once it needs to be retired then swap in a K24.

FYI I know it costs a lot to swap a K into an EK, I did it three years ago and the parts add up fast. Would not be worth it to swap a K20a3 into an ek. So boost your stock motor, have fun.

jdmpendeho
06-30-2010, 06:31 PM
very truee but i hear boosting my stock motor will be just as fast as stock type r or maybe even slower. isnt k24 cheaper then dc5 type r motor???

Gilmour
06-30-2010, 07:08 PM
very truee but i hear boosting my stock motor will be just as fast as stock type r or maybe even slower. isnt k24 cheaper then dc5 type r motor???

Whoever told your that is :gghey: (must have been cow)

A well tuned turbo'd EP with a K20a3 would absolutely crush a EP3 CTR on the highway.

johnkimble
06-30-2010, 07:15 PM
Whoever told your that is :gghey: (must have been cow)

A well tuned turbo'd EP with a K20a3 would absolutely crush a EP3 CTR on the highway.

hahaha cow

get the k24 and then boost. i vote supercharge

spartan
06-30-2010, 08:11 PM
NA my ep3 is bone stock. im deff gettin kpro .dont kno to get k24a2 k20a1... ek9

Whats a K20a1?
what ever u do its gonna cost more then 5k.

yyi
06-30-2010, 08:46 PM
buy 5,000 McChickens:yeahthat:

jdmpendeho
06-30-2010, 09:12 PM
tha k20a1 is type r motor in ep3 and dc5 only in japan and btw if i do get tha k24 would my stock tranny be good for it ??

johnkimble
06-30-2010, 10:42 PM
yep esp with boost

spartan
07-01-2010, 12:00 AM
tha k20a1 is type r motor in ep3 and dc5 only in japan and btw if i do get tha k24 would my stock tranny be good for it ??

oooh you mean K20A
JDM engines don't end with digit(s)
and thats not just honda.
if your A3 doesnt have a lot of miles, u should boost that.

Tortoise
07-01-2010, 01:21 AM
Revhard kit stage 2 and a good tune FTW.

02_epdriver
07-01-2010, 04:28 AM
tha k20a1 is type r motor in ep3 and dc5 only in japan and btw if i do get tha k24 would my stock tranny be good for it ??

Yeah you can use the tranny off your A3 on a K24

Onasty
07-01-2010, 06:35 AM
eugh these setups all sound so repetitive.... why not do somthing more interesting..... how about... k24a1 with vtec killer cams and turbo :D

thats what i plan on doin a3 bottom a1 head vtec killer cams and turbo when i get cash

showoff3civic
07-01-2010, 06:49 AM
take it from someone who has 5 grand under the hood... save your money and do a full out engine build or put it into a high yield IRA and enjoy it at a later point in life. If I could go back I would have just spent the 3 grand on a supercharger for the A3 and called it a day

RedSiBaron
07-01-2010, 08:06 AM
Whoever told your that is :gghey: (must have been cow)

A well tuned turbo'd EP with a K20a3 would absolutely crush a EP3 CTR on the highway.

are you serious!? who cares about a highway pull ricer

Passenger
07-01-2010, 08:13 AM
..Nothin wrong with freeway pulls.. lol.

RedSiBaron
07-01-2010, 08:21 AM
..Nothin wrong with freeway pulls.. lol.

except you are street racing and its no real test of a car versus another car...

jdmpendeho
07-01-2010, 10:22 AM
take it from someone who has 5 grand under the hood... save your money and do a full out engine build or put it into a high yield IRA and enjoy it at a later point in life. If I could go back I would have just spent the 3 grand on a supercharger for the A3 and called it a day

what chu got>? and btw whats high yield IRA?? but if i turbo or supercharge wouldnt i have constant problems?

RedSiBaron
07-01-2010, 10:36 AM
what chu got>? and btw whats high yield IRA?? but if i turbo or supercharge wouldnt i have constant problems?

not constant problems, but its more of a headache and the life of the engine is greatly reduced

jdmpendeho
07-01-2010, 10:24 PM
truuee well i made up my mindd ima deff get dc5 type r swap,and dropp my a3 in a teggi. bugg eye or jdm front??? hmmm

Passenger
07-02-2010, 07:48 AM
except you are street racing and its no real test of a car versus another car...

In certain cases it's close enough to a real test. Not everyone has access to a track or drag strip, so I dont see a problem with a open interstate as long as you aren't swerving in an out of traffic. :shrug:

jri93
07-02-2010, 09:00 AM
truuee well i made up my mindd ima deff get dc5 type r swap,and dropp my a3 in a teggi. bugg eye or jdm front??? hmmm


i can almost guarantee that you will not be satisfied with the power of any stock NA honda motor. i did a k24a2 swap with full bolt ons thinking it would be fast enough and now i wish i would have just gone boost.

RedSiBaron
07-02-2010, 10:24 AM
truuee well i made up my mindd ima deff get dc5 type r swap,and dropp my a3 in a teggi. bugg eye or jdm front??? hmmm

im not going to complain here, people i've spoken to who have this swap really like it...from what i am hearing from you is that you seem to be worried about reliability and it doesnt sound like you are planning on building a motor...which in that case the dc5r swap is the most you can get out of a straight stock swap, and its 80 more hp than the k20a3 and has better gearing, 6 spd, and a factory LSD...frankly people think its a waste of money but for people who want a straight swap that they'll throw i/h/e on, you cant do better...

THOUGH, if you think in the future you might want to dick with the engine or add boost, this swap will not be the right one. plus almost any cam that you add to this engine will more than likely cause you to loose power from what i've been told.


In certain cases it's close enough to a real test. Not everyone has access to a track or drag strip, so I dont see a problem with a open interstate as long as you aren't swerving in an out of traffic. :shrug:

its still the street, its much more dangerous, there are other people around, there are more obstacles around that will kill you, whether thats a light post, or a ditch, etc...its negligent


i can almost guarantee that you will not be satisfied with the power of any stock NA honda motor. i did a k24a2 swap with full bolt ons thinking it would be fast enough and now i wish i would have just gone boost.

a k24a2 is not a k20a, plus i dont get a strong feeling the OP wants to mess with this thing too much, he mentioned boost but he seems hesitant.

Passenger
07-02-2010, 02:01 PM
its still the street, its much more dangerous, there are other people around, there are more obstacles around that will kill you, whether thats a light post, or a ditch, etc...its negligent



It doesn't make it any less of "real racing" just cause you're not paying to do it and you're doing it at the moment. From a dig from redlight to 1/4 down the street is almost as legit as any other racing its just how you want or can do it at the time with the same exact risks of getting injured as you would anywhere else if you know the area well.
I dont want to drive all the way up to Road Atlanta to get stomped out by a flock of mustangs and vettes because Road Atlanta has so many straight aways I wouldn't be able to keep up, and I don't want to go to the Atlanta Motorspeedway to get tangled up with a bunch of 10-11 second cars/trucks (in a 1/4 mile) that are on 1/8th mile track.
All in all I see nothing wrong with doing it in an area you are familiar with, doing it w/o any one else on the highway and just doing a 60-110 pull or something along those lines. To me thats no more dangerous than doing it anywhere else.

RedSiBaron
07-02-2010, 02:18 PM
It doesn't make it any less of "real racing" just cause you're not paying to do it and you're doing it at the moment. From a dig from redlight to 1/4 down the street is almost as legit as any other racing its just how you want or can do it at the time with the same exact risks of getting injured as you would anywhere else if you know the area well.
I dont want to drive all the way up to Road Atlanta to get stomped out by a flock of mustangs and vettes because Road Atlanta has so many straight aways I wouldn't be able to keep up, and I don't want to go to the Atlanta Motorspeedway to get tangled up with a bunch of 10-11 second cars/trucks (in a 1/4 mile) that are on 1/8th mile track.
All in all I see nothing wrong with doing it in an area you are familiar with, doing it w/o any one else on the highway and just doing a 60-110 pull or something along those lines. To me thats no more dangerous than doing it anywhere else.

i mean that makes sense, but i still do not condone street racing in any shape or form for any reason or logical explanation...there are a lot more factors on the street than on a track/strip...

thisisagame24
07-02-2010, 02:36 PM
crazy eyes is going crazy

RedSiBaron
07-02-2010, 02:39 PM
crazy eyes is going crazy

you're next ginger

thisisagame24
07-02-2010, 02:53 PM
bring it on toothpick

Passenger
07-02-2010, 03:00 PM
crazy eyes is going crazy

You want some too big boy?

Passenger
07-02-2010, 03:01 PM
i mean that makes sense, but i still do not condone street racing in any shape or form for any reason or logical explanation...there are a lot more factors on the street than on a track/strip...

stalemate!~ once again!

thisisagame24
07-02-2010, 03:12 PM
You want some too big boy?

oh man your getting loud now too

RedSiBaron
07-02-2010, 03:21 PM
stalemate!~ once again!

hahaha we are good at it i guess

jdmpendeho
07-02-2010, 04:27 PM
[QUOTE=RedSiBaron;773703]im not going to complain here, people i've spoken to who have this swap really like it...from what i am hearing from you is that you seem to be worried about reliability and it doesnt sound like you are planning on building a motor...which in that case the dc5r swap is the most you can get out of a straight stock swap, and its 80 more hp than the k20a3 and has better gearing, 6 spd, and a factory LSD...frankly people think its a waste of money but for people who want a straight swap that they'll throw i/h/e on, you cant do better...

THOUGH, if you think in the future you might want to dick with the engine or add boost, this swap will not be the right one. plus almost any cam that you add to this engine will more than likely cause you to loose power from what i've been told.

well i got no time and money for building motor im a full time student in tha future yeahh i olny got my ep3 as a daily driving car soo swap and boom .. im goiling N/A wit tha type R , btw whats i/h/e????

thisisagame24
07-02-2010, 07:21 PM
i/h/e = intake/header/exhuast

RedSiBaron
07-02-2010, 07:30 PM
[QUOTE=RedSiBaron;773703]im not going to complain here, people i've spoken to who have this swap really like it...from what i am hearing from you is that you seem to be worried about reliability and it doesnt sound like you are planning on building a motor...which in that case the dc5r swap is the most you can get out of a straight stock swap, and its 80 more hp than the k20a3 and has better gearing, 6 spd, and a factory LSD...frankly people think its a waste of money but for people who want a straight swap that they'll throw i/h/e on, you cant do better...

THOUGH, if you think in the future you might want to dick with the engine or add boost, this swap will not be the right one. plus almost any cam that you add to this engine will more than likely cause you to loose power from what i've been told.

well i got no time and money for building motor im a full time student in tha future yeahh i olny got my ep3 as a daily driving car soo swap and boom .. im goiling N/A wit tha type R , btw whats i/h/e????

in my oppinion you are making a good decision

thisisagame24
07-02-2010, 08:02 PM
no one cares for your opinion

vbpracer
07-02-2010, 11:36 PM
Either you get a k24a2 with a jrsc, or a k24a1 with turbo. I have had very good results with my setup, for under 5k.

jdmpendeho
07-03-2010, 12:41 PM
i care

jri93
07-03-2010, 01:37 PM
just turbo a k24a2 and own all

Go_ep3
07-03-2010, 02:30 PM
^^i agree lol

RedSiBaron
07-03-2010, 03:52 PM
does no one read, hes concerned about engine longevity, etc with F/I, if its always going to make him uncomfortable with that setup then thats not a very enjoyable experience, especially when hes a student, he cant afford to replace a sploded engine, especially when its his driver

thisisagame24
07-03-2010, 07:28 PM
newbs dont read crazy eyes..... though you have been here long enough to know this

Passenger
07-03-2010, 10:51 PM
newbs dont read crazy eyes..... though you have been here long enough to know this

Oh you're itching for some now buddy

RedSiBaron
07-03-2010, 11:24 PM
Oh you're itching for some now buddy

hahahaha, dont worry ill light him on fire or something while he is sleeping at the bbq

jdmpendeho
07-04-2010, 12:29 PM
does no one read, hes concerned about engine longevity, etc with F/I, if its always going to make him uncomfortable with that setup then thats not a very enjoyable experience, especially when hes a student, he cant afford to replace a sploded engine, especially when its his driver

very truee, k24a2 thats from tsx right???

Passenger
07-04-2010, 10:16 PM
very truee, k24a2 thats from tsx right???

yeah

jdmpendeho
07-06-2010, 01:05 PM
i wanna get dc5r swap will tha Shifter Cable fit well on my ep3???

thisisagame24
07-06-2010, 01:14 PM
yes..... the only issue is you might havea to cut out a part of the shifter to reach 6th gear.... or just get the BCSS and be all set with reaching 6th and have nice shorter throws

jdmpendeho
07-06-2010, 04:13 PM
yes..... the only issue is you might havea to cut out a part of the shifter to reach 6th gear.... or just get the BCSS and be all set with reaching 6th and have nice shorter throws

how will tha reverse workk???

thisisagame24
07-06-2010, 06:10 PM
1 3 5
|_|_| __
| | | |
2 4 6 R


ta-da

jdmpendeho
07-06-2010, 10:25 PM
1 3 5
|_|_| __
| | | |
2 4 6 R


ta-da
soo all i gotta do is get bcss and ill be all set for tha swap???

RedSiBaron
07-06-2010, 10:30 PM
yup, or notch your shifter assembly

jdmpendeho
07-07-2010, 09:35 PM
yup, or notch your shifter assembly

kk thankss gettin tha swap soon cant wait=p

jdmpendeho
07-08-2010, 02:05 PM
who here has tha k20a swap?