Updated: FAQ on OEM Exterior Options (HFP, CTR, EP vs EU)

[usedep3]

Gonna try to cover all OEM options that fit the USDM EP3 and will be updated as necessary. I will try to cover all options including:

Post #1 - USDM 02/03 & USDM 04/05 EP3
Post #2 - pre-facelift JDM/EDM/UKDM CTR
Post #3 - facelift JDM/EDM/UKDM CTR
Post #4 - OEM Fronts from around the world
Post #5 - 2002 SEMA Honda Civic Si concept
Post #6 - 'Useful' Links & FAQ's

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In 2002, the Civic Si received a complete redesign and returned to form as a hatchback. The body shape of this model was based on the "New Bullet-Form" concept, which aimed to create a more dynamic look and provide greater stability while traveling on highways or winding country roads. The interior layout also distinguished itself from other Civic Si generations with a dash-mounted shifter. Based on a platform manufactured at the Swindon plant in England, the hatchback was launched around the world in many different trims, most notably as the Civic Type R in Europe and Japan.

Shifting away from the B-series engine, the seventh generation Civic Si adopted the K-series K20A3 engine rated 160 bhp (120 kW) at 6500 rpm and 132 ft·lbf (179 N·m) at 5000 rpm. With a redline of 6,800 rpm, the Si distanced itself from the narrow, high-rpm powerband engine of its predecessor, and as a result saw a 20 percent increase in torque. Performance was relatively underwhelming compared to the competition; the switch to MacPherson struts from double-wishbone suspension resulted in less responsive handling, and a near-150 lb (68 kg) increase in weight to 2,744 lb (1,245 kg) contributed to slower acceleration than the lighter '99-'00 Si. Much of the weight gain is attributed to the chassis' stouter structure when compared to the previous generation hatchback, with the '02 Si boasting an increase in torsional rigidity by 95 percent and a bending rigidity increase of 22 percent.

With the increased chassis rigidity compensating for weight gain, the 5th-generation Civic Si saw roughly the same performance numbers as the previous generation Si, with 7.6 seconds to 60 mph and 15.8 seconds at the quarter mile. Other factors adversely impacting performance included the lack of an LSD (limited slip differential) and having to shift into third gear to get to 60. First gear ends at about 30, second ends at 55, and third ends at 82 mph (132 km/h).

The 2004–05 models received minor revisions. Cosmetic changes included revised headlight (dual bulb setup) and taillight designs, standard side skirts, and an option for a HFP. The suspension was updated with a change from 4 lug to 5 lug bolt pattern, a larger rear sway bar, and a change from 15-inch wheels (195/60-15) to 16-inch wheels (205/55-16). The interior received more silver accents in place of the chrome ones (the lock switch).

The Honda chassis code for the Si and Type-S models is EP3. In Canada it was referred to as the Honda Civic SiR.


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2002/2003 'pre-facelift' USDM EP3:
Key exterior differences:
-dual filament (H4) headlights
-15" 4 Lug (4x100) wheels
-taillights
-colors available:
-2002: Taffeta White, Satin Silver Metallic, Night Hawk Black Pearl, Euro Yellow, Milano Red (CDM only)
-2003: Taffeta White, Satin Silver Metallic, Night Hawk Black Pearl, Vivid Blue Pearl

Pics:
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/usdmep3/01.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/usdmep3/02.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/usdmep3/03.jpg


2004/2005 'facelift' USDM EP3:
Key exterior differences:
-9006/9005 headlights. Canadian SiR's came with DRL's
-slightly different color grill
-16" 5 Lug (5x114.3) wheels
-taillights
-side skirts
-colors available:
-2004 & 2005: Taffeta White, Satin Silver Metallic, Night Hawk Black Pearl, Vivid Blue Pearl

Pics:
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/usdmep3/01-1.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/usdmep3/02-1.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/usdmep3/03-1.jpg

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HFP (Honda Factory Performance) Lip Kit:
The HFP lip kit was offered in 2003 for the USDM Honda Civic Si. The HFP lip kit will fit any USDM EP.

The only reason I believe Honda says the HFP kit is INTENDED for 2003+ is because of the available HFP kit colors. The HFP kit only comes in VBP, SSM, TW and NHBP. As we all know EY (and MR) was only available in 02, therefore not making the HFP kit a 'direct fit'. If you buy the kit new, everything that's needed will be included whether you have an 02, 03, 04 or an 05.

This is just my opinion, but i believe 03's have it the best. The HFP side skirts does not reuse the holes on the 04/05 rocker panel.
The kit will come with the necessary brackets/double-sided tape to hold the sideskirt. This is why not having the holes there in the first place is more beneficial. No holes = no Honda rust

http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/usdmep3/HFP01.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/usdmep3/HFP02.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/usdmep3/HFP03.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/usdmep3/HFP04.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/usdmep3/HFP05.jpg

Installation Instructions:
-Front Lip: link (http://www.handa-accessories.com/civic/sifus.pdf)
-Side Skirts: link (http://www.handa-accessories.com/civic/sisidespoil.pdf)
-Rear Lip: link (http://www.handa-accessories.com/civic/sirus.pdf)
-Hatch Spoiler: link (http://www.handa-accessories.com/civic/siwing.pdf)
-02/03 OEM Fog Lights: link (http://www.handa-accessories.com/civic/sifogs.pdf)
-04/05 OEM Fog Lights: link (http://www.handa-accessories.com/civic/04sifog.pdf)

[usedep3]

2001-2003 'pre-facelift' CTR EP3:
Key exterior differences:
-OEM 4.3k HID reflector-type headlights.
-17" 5 Lug (5x114.3) wheels by Enkei
-Taillights. Similar to 02/03 USDM tailight except the brake and turn signal location is different. Also, turn signal area/lens is pinkish
-Red 'H's front and back
-Pre-facelift CTR front bumper w/ CTR front lip. Commonly referred to as the 02/03 CTR bumper. The front bumper is shorter than the stock USDM bumper.
-A USDM/CDM EP3 Si/SiR will need an OEM EP3R-spec front bumper/reinforcement bar ('rebar') and a modified rear bumper/reinforcement bar ('rebar'). **NOTE: OEM EP3R-spec rear bumper/reinforcement bar ('rebar') is not a direct 'bolt-on' affair onto a USDM/CDM EP3 Si/SiR.**
-Front bumper does NOT have amber bumper lights.
-Factory Sideskirts
-CTR rear bumper w/ CTR rear lip. CTR rear bumper/lip is the same from 2001-2006. The rear bumper is also shorter than the stock USDM bumper
-Rear bumper does NOT have red bumper lights.
-CTR wing (spoiler). This wing can be modified to fit the USDM EP3. Modification of the CTR wing is necessary because the rear hatch glass is different on the CTR compared to the USDM EP3. Most members will use an HFP wing.
-JDM CTR did not have sidemarkers on fender. When people refer to JDM sidemarkers they are referring to the sidemarkers found on the DC5 ITR
-Pre-facelift JDM CTR sideview mirrors are power folding.
-JDM CTR had a UKDM flag emblem in front of the civic emblem found on the hatch. The flag is a credit to the CTR being built at Honda's Swindon Factory in England.
- FULL Championship White (CW) was only available for the JDM market
-2003 30th Anniversary Edition '30AE' EP3 CTR:
The 30th anniversary is a more exclusive CTR. Only a 100 were built for each of the following colors: Red, Silver and Black. This was only available in the pre-facelift CTRs. The 30AE and 'regular' CTR differ from each in the following way:
**Red Carpets & Special Edition Recaro Sport Topline seats
**Rear tinted windows
**30AE sticker beneath the rear wiper
**Momo steering Wheel

Pics:
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/usdmep3/PFL02.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/usdmep3/PFL01.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/usdmep3/PFL03.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/usdmep3/PFL04.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/usdmep3/PFL05.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/usdmep3/PFL06.jpg

[usedep3]

2004-2006 'facelift' CTR EP3:
Key exterior differences:
-OEM 4.3k HID projector headlights.
-17" 5 Lug (5x114.3) wheels. Supposedly Enkei stopped making the wheels for some facelift models. The gunmetal version of these wheels is a slightly different shade and a hair heavier.
-Taillights. Similar to 04/05 USDM tailight except the brake and turn signal location is different. Also the amber lens found in the USDM turn signal area is now the red brake light.
-Red 'H's front and back. Front grill is 2 piece (actual grill and upper trim piece). Front H is also larger than that found on the pre-facelift grill.
-Facelift CTR front bumper w/ CTR front lip. Commonly referred to as the 04/05 CTR bumper. The front bumper is shorter than the stock USDM bumper.
-A USDM/CDM EP3 Si/SiR will need an OEM EP3R-spec front bumper/reinforcement bar ('rebar') and a modified rear bumper/reinforcement bar ('rebar'). **NOTE: OEM EP3R-spec rear bumper/reinforcement bar ('rebar') is not a direct 'bolt-on' affair onto a USDM/CDM EP3 Si/SiR.**
-Front bumper does NOT have amber bumper lights.
-Factory Sideskirts
-CTR rear bumper w/ CTR rear lip. CTR rear bumper/lip is the same from 2001-2006. The rear bumper is also shorter than the stock USDM bumper
-Rear bumper does NOT have red bumper lights.
-CTR wing (spoiler). This wing can be modified to fit the USDM EP3. Modification of the CTR wing is necessary because the rear hatch glass is different on the CTR compared to the USDM EP3. Most members will use an HFP wing.
-Non-JDM Facelift CTRs did not have sidemarkers on fender. The turn signal was integrated into the sideview mirror.
-JDM Facelift CTRs have sidemarkers on fender. JDM CTR sideview mirrors are power folding.
-JDM CTR had a UKDM flag emblem in front of the civic emblem found on the hatch.
-FULL Championship White (CW) was only available for the JDM market
-Premier/Final Edition EP3 CTR:
The Premier and Final Edition CTR's were produced as the run out model for the EDM EP3 CTR. Some of the parts destined for the Japanese market that were left over from a lack of sales in Japan. They were addeded to facelift CTRs to try and sell the last ones before the new model CTR (FN2) was released. This was only available in the facelift CTRs. The Premier/Final Edition and 'regular' facelift CTR differ from each in the following way:
**Red Carpets
**Red/Black Recaro seats
**Rear tinted windows
**Momo steering Wheel

Pics:
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/usdmep3/FL01.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/usdmep3/FL03.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/usdmep3/FL02.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/usdmep3/FL04.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/usdmep3/FL05.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/usdmep3/FL06.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/usdmep3/FL07.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/usdmep3/FL08.jpg

[usedep3]

'pre-facelift' EDM EP2 Front End:
Key exterior differences:
-pre-facelift style headlights
-molded grill
-no factory drilled holes for CTR lip

Pics
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/usdmep3/EP2-101.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/usdmep3/EP2-104.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/usdmep3/EP2-102.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/usdmep3/EP2-103.jpg


'facelift' EDM EP2 Front End:
Key exterior differences:
-facelift style projector headlights
-CTR style grill w/ big H and upper trim piece
-Front Lower Lip Spoiler

Pics
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/usdmep3/EP2-204.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/usdmep3/EP2-201.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/usdmep3/EP2-202.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/usdmep3/EP2-203.jpg

[usedep3]

SEMA Honda Civic Si Concept:
Below you will find information & pictures of the SEMA Honda Civic Si Concept. The car seen below is a concept piece and parts from that car were not made available to the public. Looking at the pictures below its easy to see where/how the HFP lip kit design comes from.


For the 2002 SEMA show, Honda unveiled the 2003 Civic Si Concept, which showcased the aftermarket versatility of the Si.

Powertrain/chassis modifications included a GReddy T518Z turbocharger with an integral wastgate, a prototype GReddy front-mounted intercooler kit with aluminum piping, a GReddy Airinx high-flow intake system, a GReddy e-manage engine control manager, a GReddy Profec E-01 electronic boost controller (with e-manage programmer), widened track, Factory Performance sport suspension, a center mounted high-flow exhaust system, and a four-piston Brembo brake system.

The exterior saw changes including a Rally-inspired body kit, 18-inch polished titanium-finish wheels, a carbon fiber grill, front intake and rear bumper diffuser, a black chrome-finish headlights and smoked taillights, high-mounted two-stage rear wing. For the interior, Honda included Mugen carbon fiber and Kevlar race seats covered in red Alcantera suede with 6-point racing harness, a sport 3-spoke steering wheel, aluminum pedals and shift knob, Mugen high performance LCD screen gauge package, center mounted information display


http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/usdmep3/SEMA00a.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/usdmep3/SEMA00b.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/usdmep3/SEMA01.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/usdmep3/SEMA02.jpg
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http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/usdmep3/SEMA05.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/usdmep3/SEMA06.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/usdmep3/SEMA07.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/usdmep3/SEMA08.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/usdmep3/SEMA09.jpg

[usedep3]

Useful Links

Info on CTR lip kit hardware: here's the link (http://www.ephatch.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44454)


http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh27/72chevel/reartyperbumper.gif

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh27/72chevel/sideskirtpics.gif

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh27/72chevel/typerdecals.gif

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh27/72chevel/typerfrontbumper.gif

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prefacelift (01-03) CTR tail light installation DIY. installation of 04-06 CTR tails is very similar.
here's the link (http://www.ephatch.com/forum/showthread.php?48635)

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CTR side skirt installation DIY. installation using oem 04/05 USDM push clips & velcro.
here's the link (http://www.ephatch.com/forum/showthread.php?52242)

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prefacelift CTR headlight conversion/wire harness DIY.
here's the link (http://www.ephatch.com/forum/showthread.php?44222)


http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a124/r3gul8or/HIDAdaptorHarness.jpg

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g96/talonxracer/H4-Female_Bi-Xenon.jpg

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DIY for 02-03 to 04-05 headlight turn signal conversion. need for 02/03 EP owners who want to run CTR projector headlights.
here's the link (http://www.ephatch.com/forum/showthread.php?43835)

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DIY for 02/03 USDM modication for 'JDM style' light pattern. Free mod for 02/03 tail light owners. The CTR taillights have a different bulb pattern compared to the USDM EP3.
here's the link (http://forums.clubep3.com/showthread.php?t=716876)



http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w15/thaseint/4-1.jpg

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Supplemental Attachment DIY for sideskirts. Great DIY idea courtesy of powdbyrice for anyone attaching side skirts. I did some thing very similar to this.
here's the link (http://forums.clubep3.com/showpost.php?p=32925752&postcount=7)


i used to commute 100 miles a day, so i wanted to make damn sure that my side skirts werent going to fall off.

here's what i did to keep my oem 04-05 skirts from falling off.
http://home.comcast.net/~powdbyrice/DSC03588.JPG

there is one or two (cant remember) brackets under the car that hold the skirts on. i was just paranoid.

pipe strap
nut w/nylon insert, washer, bolt
touch up paint.

cut a small piece of pipe strap. bent it. painted it. painted the bolts. drilled holes in the body and side skirt. bolted everything up.

i know the sticky clips have come off in some places as i have accidentally kicked them while getting out of the car. i have piece of mind that the skirts aren't going to fall off and drag on the freeway.

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TSX projector retro-fit into CTR projectors. This DIY guide shows you step by step instructions on how to retro-fit TSX projectors into your CTR projector headlights. The following method is more or less the same for DEPO facelift CTR style headlights.
here's the link (http://forums.clubep3.com/showthread.php?t=582462)
and another link (http://www.ephatch.com/forum/showthread.php?51271)
and yet another link (http://www.ephatch.com/forum/showthread.php?43263)
OMG another link (http://www.ephatch.com/forum/showthread.php?44530)


TSX on the left and halogen RHD shield
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c186/megatron82/DSC00018.jpg


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Having difficulty removing your bumper lens? Want to replace your bumper lights?
here's the link (http://www.ephatch.com/forum/showthread.php?55365)

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Installation of a facelift CTR grill on your USDM bumper or facelift CTR bumper. It's possible with some simple modifications. i know there's a better guide but..
here's the link (http://www.ephatch.com/forum/showthread.php?52725)



http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/3937/0405to3.jpg



http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j129/wilpezash/DSC03865.jpg

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Comparison of HFP sides vs. CTR side skirts.
here's the link (http://www.ephatch.com/forum/showthread.php?51684-How-similar-are-the-HFP-side-Skirts-and-the-CTR-side-skirts)

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Broken OEM fog light lens? You're in luck. There are a couple of alternatives discussed in this thread.
here's the link (http://www.ephatch.com/forum/showthread.php?50395)

Here's another alternative. It involves using lexan to replace the broken glass.
here's the link (http://www.civicforums.com/forums/7-honda-civic-diys-civic-tech-chat/283397-diy-so-you-cracked-your-fogs-fix.html)

Here's yet another alternative if you chip the glass lens of your fog. Or a preventative measure you can take to tint them and protect for fogs from road debris.
Here's the link (http://www.ephatch.com/forum/showthread.php?49893)


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FAQ's

-Q: Will a CTR wing fit my USDM EP3?
-A: Yes, the CTR wing will fit your car. But to make it sit flush, some minor modifications are needed. The outside mounting loactions on the wing must be shaved down so that the wing can sit flush against the USDM hatchglass.
Due to North American safety regulations the rear hatch glass is different between the USDM EP3 and the CTR. If you look at the CTR hatch below, you will see notches in the glass not found in our rear windows:
http://i.ebayimg.com/14/!B%29NedUwCGk~$%28KGrHqR,!jIEv1+0L,!yBMMhdjiwt!~~_ 12.JPG
This is where the spoiler needs to be shaved (circled in red):
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4014/4672197741_d896d42f76.jpg
If you don't want to shave the spoiler down, you have 2 options:
1) Buy a mad jDm y0 authentic CTR trunk
2) Buy the HFP spoiler. It's essentially a CTR spoiler that's been modified by Honda to fit our USDM EP3s. The majority of EPhatchers with the CTR-style wing will go this route. OEM fitment FTW

here's a link (http://www.ephatch.com/forum/showthread.php?56293) that might help you better understand what's going on. apparently some replica CTR wings are in fact replica CTR wings. i.e. some don't fit without the above mentioned modifications

**NOTE: Replacement P/N for OEM HFP LED strip: 34270-S30-A01. This LED strip will NOT bolt directly into any aftermarket 'non-Honda' CTR replica wing. Not the CF nor the fiberglass. ONLY HFP and authentic CTR

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-Q: What are the differences between the Authentic an Depo Replica CTR projectors?
-A: They are basically the same headlight. The main difference is the honeycomb pattern of the turn signal area in the headlight cover/lens. The Replica projector will have a clear turn signal area. See pics below:

Authentic CTR:
http://brut-photography.smugmug.com/photos/229558244-L.jpg

Replica (Depo):
http://www.ephatch.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=552&d=1211263829

So, I know what you're thinking, can't we just swapp the honey comb pattern from the 04/05 USDM headlight and be that much closer to OEM CTR projectors? NOPE! sorry.. The honey comb lenses are different between USDM and CTR. See pic below:

04/05 OEM USDM:
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j26/pynikal/P1010002.jpg

There is good news though, parts from the CTR projector will actually bolt right into the Depo and vice-versa (i.e. TSX projectors).. Why TSX projectors? for that sexy 'proper' HID cutoff. The Depo headlight will come with a Halogen projector/reflector bowl. The cutoff he cutoff will look like this:

LHD Halogen Cutoff:
http://www.ephatch.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=518&d=1210828688

LHD HID Cutoff:
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c186/megatron82/stocktsx.jpg

Here's the link (http://www.ephatch.com/forum/showthread.php?43263) to a helpful thread about Depo Replica Projector Headlight.

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-Q: Is there a difference between 02/03 and 04/05 USDM front grill? Honda Shows 2 part numbers.
-A: Yes, there are 2 different grills. Why? I don't know. But here's a link (http://www.ephatch.com/forum/showthread.php?53745) explaining the differences.

[chiwhitesi]

looking forward to this.

will read again

[donsep3]

wher can u buy the hfp lips?

[chiwhitesi]

wher can u buy the hfp lips?

the internet...

[BeaterEP]

the internet...

Or, more specifically, H and A Automotive, an online retailer for all things Honda accesory.
LINK:H and A Accesories - EP3 page (http://www.handa-accessories.com/civicsi.html)

Great thread OP! :thumbu:

[vicx52o]

That NHBP facelift EP2 front end is GORGEOUS.
I think HFP sides would flow well with the lines of the lip just like the 04/05 mugen lip.
You should include the difference b/w the hfp sides and the ctr sides too.

[ShadowEP3]

great job so far :thumbu:

if you need any help lemme know..ill try to see if i can hunt down all pricing on parts and what not (if you dont plan to already)

[Garrett]

i love the facelift ep2 front lip, if i had money my ep would have that in a second

[usedep3]

great job so far :thumbu:

if you need any help lemme know..ill try to see if i can hunt down all pricing on parts and what not (if you dont plan to already)

I have found or have most of that info. I plan on adding FAQ's, DIYs, list of what's 'needed' to install any non USDM bumper including part numbers, and anything and everything related to OEM exterior modifications.

One pic i can't seem to find right now is the pic of a EP3 with a full CTR exterior conversion parked in front of a stock USDM. The pic showed the difference in length of the CTR bumpers compared stock USDM. haven't seen the picture in a long while. hopefully someone has it saved

[Jukka]

2 quick things. 1. EY came as a optional colour in Canada aswell for the 02 year. There are at least 3 EY EPs in my area that are labeled as an SIR.
2. Theres also another european model known as a civic sport. It came with a K20A3 in it. It was pretty much a european version of a north american SI/SIR. Only majour difference between it and a type-r is that they have the word "sport" written on the side skirt, and they came with black coloured door handels and trunk latch handle.
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff213/6GCCanada/bryansfinlandandswedenpics655.jpg
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff213/6GCCanada/bryansfinlandandswedenpics656.jpg
This is an example of one, minus the sport stickers on the side. I talked to the owner when I was in finland and he said he just wanted it to look like a type-r.

EDIT: Also, an option in some countries (more so northern european/scandinavia) they had optional headlight sprayers (like on the 04/05's)

[yyi]

great thread!
Vote stickied!!!

[mangvue05si]

this is i dont know how to say but WOW, I never know the type r went past the year 05'

GREAT THREAD

[vicx52o]

2. Theres also another european model known as a civic sport. It came with a K20A3 in it. It was pretty much a european version of a north american SI/SIR. Only majour difference between it and a type-r is that they have the word "sport" written on the side skirt, and they came with black coloured door handels and trunk latch handle.


The european model you're reffering to is an EP2. I'm pretty sure EP2 is powered by a D16V1 and not a K engine. I believe the USDM/Canadian SiR were the only EP3's to receive the K20A3.

[ep3egg]

awesome write-up!!

the HFP installation instructions link for side-skirts needs to be fixed though.

[Jukka]

There was a model of Civic sport that came with a K20A3 in it. I spend alot of time over at civictype-r.co.uk and type-r-owners.co.uk and ive seen a few of them. They might have been the 03-05 civic sports, or the 5door sports. That red EP though I posted a picture of is one that I personally took when I was in Finland and talked to the owner. He bought it as a 2003 Honda Civic Sport and showed me the K20A3 in it. He had told me that he purchased the car from Honda brand new. It looks like an EP3, not an EP2. EP2s come with the integrated front grill in the bumper, this one came with a separate grill like on the type-rs.

EDIT: Also, under the sidemarker there is a badge that says "I-VTEC", I thought this would be because it would have a D series, but it had a K20A3.

[usedep3]

2 quick things. 1. EY came as a optional colour in Canada aswell for the 02 year. There are at least 3 EY EPs in my area that are labeled as an SIR.
2. Theres also another european model known as a civic sport. It came with a K20A3 in it. It was pretty much a european version of a north american SI/SIR. Only majour difference between it and a type-r is that they have the word "sport" written on the side skirt, and they came with black coloured door handels and trunk latch handle.
[IMG]http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff213/6GCCanada/bryansfinlandandswedenpics655.jpg[IMG]
[IMG]http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff213/6GCCanada/bryansfinlandandswedenpics656.jpg[IMG]
This is an example of one, minus the sport stickers on the side. I talked to the owner when I was in finland and he said he just wanted it to look like a type-r.

EDIT: Also, an option in some countries (more so northern european/scandinavia) they had optional headlight sprayers (like on the 04/05's)

Thanks for the heads up on the EY SiR. I totally forgot about 'sleepingblacksi;s' sexy EY mugen EP

Also, i know that there are different trim level EP3 available worldwide. I wanted to keep this thread strictly information on items related to the exterior options on the EP. The 'Sport' trim level is essentially a mix of the USDM and EDM ep3's.



great thread!
Vote stickied!!!

thanks for the love :gheyf:



awesome write-up!!

the HFP installation instructions link for side-skirts needs to be fixed though.

Fixed! thanks for the heads up.



Some random facts and pics of the JDM EP3 type-r

It was the only EP3 to receive Championship White and the championship white type-r rims.

Im pretty sure it was given the K20A and it has helical LSD.

I think its been mentioned before, but the JDM Type-r also was the only one to recieve a full red interior.

[IMG]http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/2964/31338810002large.jpg[IMG]

[IMG]http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/4025/898989.png[IMG]

No sidemarkers or turn signal on mirrors? I never noticed this on the JDM EP3..

[IMG]http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/485/dscf1324resized.jpg[IMG]


... :mrolleyes: Already had the info relevant to the EXTERIOR of the CTR. The interior and mechanical differences/comparison will be in another thread in the appropriate section when I have the time

[neoamd]

Awesome thread and info! Thanks!

[chrismacmx]

Uffff. Eso si es una buena informacion. Thank friend

[02TWSI]

Wow man great thread, so if I wanted to switch to the 04 depo projectors do I just follow the H4 to 9006 instructions? What about the turn signals?

[usedep3]

Uffff. Eso si es una buena informacion. Thank friend

gracias




Wow man great thread, so if I wanted to switch to the 04 depo projectors do I just follow the H4 to 9006 instructions? What about the turn signals?

assuming you have an 02 ep3, yessir. you can easily make the harness for less than $40. for turn signals you can just order the 04/05 usdm turn signal bulb/socket/pigtail. just make sure the dealership doesnt screw you. iirc the price listed is for a pack of 5 sockets, 5 connectors or 10 pigtails. i wont promise u anything but i'll try to find you the oem honda p/n. also, you should be able to reuse your city lights, its a snug fit but mine worked with not modding and a lil but of effort.

[02TWSI]

ty man!

[usedep3]

w00t! my first stickie! :whoo:

[yyi]

w00t! my first stickie! :whoo:
:thumbu:

[usedep3]

:thumbu:

gracias!


edited the first post

[firmk20]

this is a great thread

[lemonhead228]

where could i buy the nhbp facelift ep2 lip and would they fit the usdm front bumpers?

i like this lip by far(:

[usedep3]

according to wayne @ speedstar, honda no longer produces the ep2 lip anymore. an no, they will not fit a usdm front bumper

[ShadowEP3]

i thought Wayne was trying to make reps of the EP2 lip?

[usedep3]

i thought Wayne was trying to make reps of the EP2 lip?

yup, he is. but honda is no longer producing them.

[mitchlikesbikes]

does anybody make HFP front replicas? if so, is there a foolproof way to tell if mine is legit? i have it off the car right now so it might be easier to tell. there doesn't seem to be any honda information stamped to the inside or anything though. thanks

[PatrickJamesYu]

does anybody make HFP front replicas? if so, is there a foolproof way to tell if mine is legit? i have it off the car right now so it might be easier to tell. there doesn't seem to be any honda information stamped to the inside or anything though. thanks

I haven't heard of an HFP front lip replica yet
I would say, as long as you know it's got the same looks as the hfp front, than it indeed is an hfp front

Post a picture if youre un sure

[mitchlikesbikes]

I haven't heard of an HFP front lip replica yet
I would say, as long as you know it's got the same looks as the hfp front, than it indeed is an hfp front

Post a picture if youre un sure

yeah it's defintely got the same look but there's no honda part numbers or anything on the inside and the paint on it seems to be complete shit but i'm pretty sure it's OEM. thanks for the info though!

[Symphorced]

Anyone knows if the HFP rear lip will bolt straight onto JDM EP3 rear bar? Or if not, what modification is needed?

[usedep3]

Anyone knows if the HFP rear lip will bolt straight onto JDM EP3 rear bar? Or if not, what modification is needed?

you need a usdm rear bumper to fit the HFP rear lip. the ctr and the usdm ep3 bumpers are completely different. i'm sure you could modify one to fit, but i think it'll be much easier to source a usdm bumper.

[upstatesol]

Ok I'm new to the ep3 world. I've owned Hondas all my life though. I'm looking for some answers on a couple exterior questions. I picked up an 05 ep3, and I really like the original mugen lip for the 02-03. It's my understanding that this will not bolt to the USDM bumpers s this in fact true? If so will an 02-03 CTR bumper bolt to my 05? Do I need to make other changes besides swapping the bumper?
My second question is I never use my rear wiper and I have seen delete kits for it. However, I saw two different kits. One that appeared to be a rubber plug for the rear glass and another that appeared to be a metal piece with a hardware kit to attach it. Both were genuine Honda parts... are there two styles, will either do the job? reccomendations? Thanks for any help.

[revned3182]

hello everyone,

i bought a nighthawk black hfp rear spoiler from junk yard... i just assumed that it was from an hfp kit because it had the hfp front lip. i wasnt sure what year it was cuz it came from a wrecked ep3.
i went and got it repainted satin silver metallic to match the colour of my 2004 ep3... i didnt want to pay extra for it to get installed because i thought i could just do it myself. but when i tried to install it... the holes and the threads are a little bit off... i had to drill the holes from my car so i can get the threads to fit... i was happy to fit the threads in until, i find out that there is an extra bump/piece that is sticking out and it is hitting the hatch's glass mirror. it does not f@%*ing fit! unless i maybe cut or shave the sucker. can you guys please help me out or suggest the best way to modify this wing??? please and thank you :(

[usedep3]

post pics. but from what it sounds like you have a ctr or ctr replica wing. the ep3r has 2 extra mounting holes and the hatch glass is a different cut. if i understand you correctly, an explaination of what you need to do is already in the FAQ/DIY section (post 6)

[revned3182]

post pics. but from what it sounds like you have a ctr or ctr replica wing. the ep3r has 2 extra mounting holes and the hatch glass is a different cut. if i understand you correctly, an explaination of what you need to do is already in the FAQ/DIY section (post 6)

it took me a while to recognize this picture...
<img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4014/4672197741_d896d42f76.jpg" border="0" alt="">

but Yeah! i think that's it!
how do you know if it is replica or if it is original JDM? is there any special markings?
the break lights should work right?... i wanted to sucker punch the seller when he just ripped it out of the hatch door... in front of me, he didnt even take his time unplugging it and he just cut the wires off. if i had known about the 2 pin connectors earlier i would have told the fucker about it...
anyways... whatever... my concern is fitting this tailgate spoiler.

what's the best way to shave this off? isn't it hollow and should i use some rubber to absorb and protect it from hitting the glass?

ps. thank you for the reply

[revned3182]

this...
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4014/4672197741_d896d42f76.jpg

[usedep3]

you can use a dremel to slowly shave down the area. its gonna be a trial and error thing. the hfp wing doesnt have a mounting point there either. the hfp wing uses double sided tape to hold that section down to the glass.

as far as replica or real, iirc there should be a stamp/raised area by the top mounting points saying 'honda'. also, the led assembly is another quick way to tell if its real or replica. the led assembly on the real ctr and hfp wing has 2 pop up plates, where the led strip is screwed onto the wing. the replica isn;t that way. throw up a pic of the whole wing and we can figure it out from there

[stephenmcc]

To Anyone Looking Information Around The EP2 Model, I Have Alot Of Info About It (I Drive One!)

There Were 2 Main Models The SE And The Sport.

They Were Both Powered By The D16V1 Engine

Facelift:
The SE Was The Model Pictured In The First Post (The VBP One With Lip), It Was A Lovechild Between The Prefacelift EP2 And The Facelift Sport It Kept The 4-Lug Hubs, Turnsignals In The "Fenders?" And Larger Steering Wheel.

The Sport Model Was Basicly A Type-R Replica, It Had The Full Facelift Type R Kit, Minus the Badging, Wheels And Spoiler. But The Spoiler Was An Optional Extra From The Factory, It Also Recieved The Turn Signals In The Wing Mirrors, 5 Lug Hubs And Smaller Type R Steering Wheel (Although It Had A Black Badge And Stiching)

This Model Also Recieved A Rear Strut Brace In The Trunk.

Anymore Info You Need Just Lemme Know!

[fugazzyek]

:whoo:


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HFP (Honda Factory Performance) Lip Kit:
The HFP lip kit was offered in 2003 for the USDM Honda Civic Si. The HFP lip kit will fit any USDM EP.

The only reason I believe honda specifies that the HFP kit (including the sides) is INTENDED for 03-05 is because of the stocks colors available for the USDM EP3. The HFP kit only comes in VBP, SSM, TW and NHBP. As we all know EY (and MR) was only available in 02, therefore not making the HFP kit a 'direct fit'. If you buy the kit new, everything that's needed whether you have an 02, 03, 04 or an 05 will be included.

This is just my opinion, but i believe 03's have it the best. The holes on the rocker panel of the 04/05 are not used. The HFP sides come with brackets that use doublesided tape to hold the sideskirt. Therefore not having the holes there in the first place is more beneficial. No holes means no where for debris and water to get inside the rocker panel.

http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/usdmep3/HFP01.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/usdmep3/HFP02.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/usdmep3/HFP03.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/usdmep3/HFP04.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/usdmep3/HFP05.jpg

Installation Instructions:
-Front Lip: link (http://www.handa-accessories.com/civic/sifus.pdf)
-Side Skirts: link (http://www.handa-accessories.com/civic/sisidespoil.pdf)
-Rear Lip: link (http://www.handa-accessories.com/civic/sirus.pdf)
-Hatch Spoiler: link (http://www.handa-accessories.com/civic/siwing.pdf)
-02/03 OEM Fog Lights: link (http://www.handa-accessories.com/civic/sifogs.pdf)
-04/05 OEM Fog Lights: link (http://www.handa-accessories.com/civic/04sifog.pdf)

hi guys,

i really really want this body kit for my car, but i know is hard to find, any company makes good replicas ?

my plans are to buy a Vis Racing body kit but if i can pay for a HFP kit for my is damned better!!!

thank you for your info and time

[usedep3]

I need to update this.

[usedep3]

Got some new info for this thread. Will update once the brochures come in.

[jumanjaq143]

Does anyone have the part numbers for the hardware to install the side skirts? Maybe aftermarket?

I will check to see if honda has spare parts for them in their catalogue tomorrow, if not I will try and call Honda Canada

[hondero69]

Thanks for taking the time and share this great info. I have a question, the only difference betwen ctr 02-03 headlights vs 02-03 usdm it just the hid? Thanks

[Rasy]

The CTR version has a slightly darker chrome, and the housing itself is adjusted for the non-projector HID setup.

[hondero69]

The CTR version has a slightly darker chrome, and the housing itself is adjusted for the non-projector HID setup.
I see, thanks