EMUSA info

[AKEP]

Here's the turbo kit we've been talkin' about. I'll try to keep the first post updated with all the info so its easy to access.

http://www.emotorusa.com/index.asp

EM-USA = E-Motor USA of Indianapolis.

beats the hell out of this page:

http://www.emusaautomotive.com/

you can buy everything they make from http://www.speedyracer.com

Just thought I'd share.:mangel:

EP3 Turbo Kit Installation Guide (http://www.4shared.com/file/6x0OPluZ/ep3_turbo_installtion_manual_1.html)
EMUSA Wastegate Instructions (http://hotfile.com/dl/97335724/4276912/EMUSA_Wastegate.docx.html)

Rolldogk20's Cal (http://www.4shared.com/file/1xwaDpxW/ep3turbotune.html) - RBC IM, RC750 Injectors, 4Bar Hondata MAP, Hondata Boost Solenoid, 2.5 Straight Pipe, Stock Fuel Pump 8.5 PSI - Use at your own risk!


Things you HAVE to buy:
Injectors (something along 550cc or above)
Dump Tube (make your own or ebay one, either ebay tube will work, they cost like $30)
Kpro
3" - 2.5" or 2.25" silicone reducer
Hondata 4bar MAP Sensor (if your going over 10 psi)

Things you might want to buy
MAC Boost Solenoid (http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=230568810133&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313&_nkw=mac+solenoid&_sacat=0)
Hondata 4 Bar MAP Sensor (http://www.clubrsx.com/cr/HD-4BMS.html)
#7940 NAPA Rad Hose (http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/CatalogItemDetail.aspx?R=NBH7940_0395213962)
2.25"ID x 3"ID 4Ply Silicone Coupler (http://www.amazon.com/Vibrant-2770R-Silicone-Transtn-Conector/dp/B000MK4XGA)
Deatschwerks Injectors (http://www.deatschwerks.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=228) - or whatever you wanna run.
Deatschwerks 65c Fuel Pump (http://www.deatschwerks.com/products/fuel-pumps/dw65c-detail) - or a walbro 255, the 65c requires no cutting or strapping. direct replacement for OEM.
38mm Dumptube on ebay, there are 2 types and either will fit, i would sugggest the one thats bent in the middle.M14 Banjo Bolt (http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370301151047&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT) or TSI Timing Cover Inspection Plate Return (you can email them @ sales@turbospecialties-race.com) for $25.
ATP Oil Restrictor (http://www.atpturbo.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TP&Product_Code=ATP-OIL-022&Category_Code=)
TP8 from these guys. (http://www.speedograph-richfield.com/html/oil_pipe_lines.html) - Don't be scared to order from them, I live in CA and it look only 3-4 days to get. Thats faster than most of my ebay purchases.
Make your own oil feed/return lines, its cheap and easy.
Vacuum Block
Gauges
K-Pro

Spark Plugs:
Stock spark plugs from NGK - IZFR6K11
Stock spark plugs from Denso - IK20L

Colder plug I found on google that everyone else is using (to my knowledge) is the NGKs below, or Denso IK22's.
IRIWAY7 cross reference BKR7EIX
IRIWAY8 cross reference BKR8EIX

Turbo rebuilt to Garrett Specs - http://www.blaastperformance.com/index.php > Remanufacturing service > Knock-off T3/T4, upgrade to Garrett (XSP,ZY) - $260 w/6 month warranty
Quick Link to install instructions - HERE (http://www.ephatch.com/forum//showthread.php?60693-EMUSA-info&p=835710&viewfull=1#post835710)
Quick Link to Greddy piping mod - HERE (http://www.ephatch.com/forum//showthread.php?60693-EMUSA-info&p=855660&viewfull=1#post855660)

Found out that I actually got a 6 psi spring in my wastegate, read other websites and they list the springs as 4(little spring under cup),6 (Stock), 8(+2 spring) and 10(+4 Spring). but some people have received 4(little spring under cup), 8 (stock), +1 and +2.

Made 247hp, 221tq @ 6 psi
Made 297hp, xxxtq @ 8 psi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63jGMyloI1M


Ok here is the manual for the Intercooler piping and turbo,
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/sironzex/emusapage1.jpg
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/sironzex/emusapage2.jpg
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/sironzex/emusapage3.jpg
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/sironzex/emusapage4.jpg
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/sironzex/emusapage5.jpg
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/sironzex/emusapage6.jpg
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/sironzex/emusapage7.jpg
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/sironzex/emusapage8.jpg
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/sironzex/emusapage9.jpg
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/sironzex/emusapage10.jpg

And the wastegate
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/sironzex/x1.jpg
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/sironzex/x2.jpg
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/sironzex/x3.jpg
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/sironzex/x4.jpg
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/sironzex/x5.jpg
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/sironzex/x6.jpg
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/sironzex/x7.jpg
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/sironzex/x8.jpg
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/sironzex/x9.jpg
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/sironzex/x10.jpg



Also, someone said on another forum, the coilovers are comparable to Racelands.
And they are made by the same company that makes Megan stuff.

[rolldogK20]

Good find i been trying to get info about this brand !!!

[civictype_r04]

Good info dude!!!

[civictype_r04]

I just emailed them to see how much the 3inch downpipe was for our car I want one!!!!

[AKEP]

you can buy everything they make from http://www.speedyracer.com - same page from the ebay sites

[civictype_r04]

I think I'm gonna get the downpipe!!!!

[gtimportfanatic]

the dp is the same as the one in the kit so its not a full 3" its a 2.5 to 3" ..

[jones02]

just wounder but what kind of numbers are you guys getting running there kit to a rev hard kit? other then it has no injectors or ecu upgrade. but running this kit with kpro?

[AKEP]

i'd imagine you can't run it without injectors. our puny ones cant hang with anything. I've seen mine hit 80%ish duty with bolt ons @ 12.x:1 A/F. so boost at 12.x:1 will def be way too much.

gtimport made 268(?) with it at 9psi on our stock motor.

[gtimportfanatic]

i'd imagine you can't run it without injectors. our puny ones cant hang with anything. I've seen mine hit 80%ish duty with bolt ons @ 12.x:1 A/F. so boost at 12.x:1 will def be way too much.

gtimport made 268(?) with it at 9psi on our stock motor.

263whp on 7.5psi .. Onasty bought my kit after i used it for 14k miles he bolted it up to his vtec killer setup and made 303whp on 9lbs

[japarossa]

I have had good luck with the EMUSA kit, I ran/raced it all summer with no problems and will be putting the same kit on my k24a2. After about 5000 km on the kit over the summer the turbo is still tight and didn't leak any oil.

[jones02]

i didnt mean not run t without changing the inj. just how id dont come with themand clips. i ordered a revhard kit but they havnt sent it out so i told them to forget it since i wanted to upgrade wastegate bov and turbo but there slow as hell. but whould the gt30 turbo bolt up to the dp and mani in this kit??

[jones02]

im going to pick up a k24 swap next week so i was just woundering if everyone is getting aroun the sazme numbers as the rev hard kit for 4g's why not get this kit and a turbo upgrade and have more money for my swap. im getting either a a1 or a2. not sure what one boosted would gt bigger numbers!

[japarossa]

The GT30 probably won't bolt right up to this downpipe because its not a standard garrett 5 bolt flange. The flange is made to fit this emusa turbo and wouldn't bolt up to my Turbonetics super 60 all but 1 of the 5 bolt holes was off way off, but it wouldn't be to hard to have a Garrett 5 bolt flange welded on.

[jones02]

ave you guys upgraded the turbo at all in your kits? i dont think running more then 10-12psi with that cheap turbo would handle it?

[japarossa]

I think it can handle it, I ran it hard and raced it hard all summer. I just took the turbo off a few days ago and it was just like new NO shaft play at all. I haven't upgraded yet I just keep the turbonetics around in case I need it. I have seen a few ebay turbo kits on D's/B's and this is the best quality kit I have seen. Worse case scenario you get it rebuilt by blastt performance in Quebec to Garrett specs for $250, still cheaper than buying another turbo.

[Rictorious88]

Very nice info!

hey gtimportfanatic and/or japarossa was there any issue with little stuff missing from the EMUSA kit (bolts, hoses, gaskets, etc) or them being of really poor quality?

[japarossa]

No nothing missing from the kit except the coupling to go from the IC piping to the TB. Not missing just not included. I also replaced the turbo to manifold bolts because the ones that came with it were cheap. All the gaskets were good quality and they actually sent me 2 of each. The Cat pipe needs to be altered because it has a little bend at the end you have to cut off and you need to have a 3 bolt flange welded on to fit up with Ep exhaust. I think the Cat. pipe is made to fit up to their RSX 3" Cat. back exhaust. Other than that the kit fit good

[jones02]

wat number are you getting with the k24a2? and what size inj. you using with that set up?

[AUTiger]

No nothing missing from the kit except the coupling to go from the IC piping to the TB. Not missing just not included. I also replaced the turbo to manifold bolts because the ones that came with it were cheap. All the gaskets were good quality and they actually sent me 2 of each. The Cat pipe needs to be altered because it has a little bend at the end you have to cut off and you need to have a 3 bolt flange welded on to fit up with Ep exhaust. I think the Cat. pipe is made to fit up to their RSX 3" Cat. back exhaust. Other than that the kit fit good

what about the dumptube? gtimportfanatic said that his only came with the gaskets and that a custom dumptube had to be made. I just figured I would order the dumptube from godspeed since it's just the flange w/ a 90* bend and a straight section that might need cutting to avoid the subframe but should be pretty easy to fix.

[japarossa]

No numbers on the k24a2 setup until I can Dyno it in the spring. Using rc 1000cc injectors but I don't think they have to be that big.

[japarossa]

The kit comes with dump tube flanges but no tube, I forgot that it wasn't included because I cut up my stock Ep3 exhaust manifold and made a nice dump tube that fits like its an oem part. I would have bought that godspeed one but the shipping to Canada was to expensive.

[AKEP]

We should start the emusa crew. I can join next week!

[AUTiger]

I plan on joining too, I have a tial 38mm wastegate on the way right now that I got in a trade. I should be picking up a rebuilt emusa turbo with garrett internals next week. But when I priced out the essentials and the kit, I am not planning for everything to be bought, installed and tuned until the end of the summer.

I am buying fast-turbo oil lines and fittings, dumptube, hondata map sensor and boost solenoid, a/f and boost gauges, oil filter sandwhich adapter, injectors, and 3in muffler and resonator, exhaust wrap, heatwrap, all before buying the emusa kit. So like each month I will buy one maybe two things on my list until I have it all amassed. Then after the 3in exhaust fabrication and tune, I will be saving for a turbonetics super 60 trim for when both the chinese turbos go bad.

[AKEP]

same here, im getting it all ready for when i go to the hobby shop, i can throw it all in with the swap. so, if anyone knows, is it possible to put the log mani and the turbo+oil lines in with the motor if im putting the motor in from the bottom?

-japarossa, what size coupler did you need for the IC-TB?

[AUTiger]

I personally wouldn't risk putting the motor in with the turbo and lines on the manifold, but you could probably get away with the manifold, but that wouldn't save you a whole lot of time.

I don't know for certain, but I would think 2.25->3in for the reducer coupler

[USAF EP3]

The EMUSA intercooler kit came with the GReddy turbo kit I bought from a member here. I've been installing it now, so far no snags yet. Hopefully I can make the piping all work, lol. One question I do have though is: Did you guys have to relocate the battery to get the charge piping to clear into the TB?

[japarossa]

Yes the coupling is 2.25" X 3". Yes the piping kit will fit with the battery in the stock location, its tight but it will fit. Let me know if you need the instructions, I have the manual for the emusa intercooler and piping.
The motor might fit in from the bottom with the turbo installed on the motor although it will be tight and not worth the hassle. Just put on the oil lines, manifold and wastegate. Make sure you use lots of heat wrap for the hoses and wires left on the firewall.

[AKEP]

dude, you should scan and upload that. i've never heard of such instructions! more info!!

[USAF EP3]

dude, you should scan and upload that. i've never heard of such instructions! more info!!

+1 To that. I need those instructions right about now, lol.

[japarossa]

I have the Emusa manual in a email/word document and cant figure out how to post it on the forum, if someone knows how to do it pm me with your email and I will email it to you.

EDIT: Emailed to AUtiger so hopefully he can find a way to post it, if not I can email it to anyone who wants it

[USAF EP3]

You can email it to me :)

Also, did you guys have to remove your rebar to fit the intercooler/charge piping? I ended up removing mine.

And, am I going to have any issue clearing my foglights?

[AKEP]

outstanding. i can upload it to a file hosting service and whatnot. i keep alot of stuff online and archived on my external. i have all sorts of manuals n stuff.
mugenep3@gmail.com if you wanna.

[AUTiger]

yeah, someone else may need to try. I was putting it all together by resizing the photos and uploading them to photobucket, but apparently MS Paint is using up too much of my RAM. Because now I can't even close paint, let alone save anything without an error message and I have to use task manager to close it.

The other option was to post it as an attachment like a datalog or calibration, but I have too many attachments and the file is too large

[AKEP]

send it to me?
-----------------
updated first post with a link to it.

[USAF EP3]

I feel that my kit came somewhat incomplete. Did you guys get any sort of mounting brackets for our intercooler?

Or am I going to have to fabricate my own?

[AUTiger]

looking at the manual, you need to fabricate your own

[rolldogK20]

Does anyone have the wastegate spring rates specs ?

[rolldogK20]

Here a picture of my EMUSA intercooler install ..

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c396/mike1066/Civic%20Si/IMG_2589.jpg

[AUTiger]

Does anyone have the wastegate spring rates specs ?

What do you mean by the specs. It's a 7psi spring that comes with the wastegate. You could just pick up a tial wastegate spring if you want to change it. The Tial wastegate I just got in a trade is coming with a 10psi spring, but I might pick up a 7psi spring to use instead.

[rolldogK20]

What do you mean by the specs. It's a 7psi spring that comes with the wastegate. You could just pick up a tial wastegate spring if you want to change it. The Tial wastegate I just got in a trade is coming with a 10psi spring, but I might pick up a 7psi spring to use instead.

I know it comes with a 7 in the wastegate but what about the others? tial has there springs color coded by spring rate.

[japarossa]

Does anyone have the wastegate spring rates specs ?
Yes I have a seperate manual explaining what the other spring rates are and how to up the psi of your wastegate, pm me your address and I will email it to you as I can't post that one up here either.


I feel that my kit came somewhat incomplete. Did you guys get any sort of mounting brackets for our intercooler?

Or am I going to have to fabricate my own?
manual emailed, Yes you have to fab up some brackets but its not that bad you just need 3 3.5" pieces of aluminum/steel with a hole in each end.



yeah, someone else may need to try. I was putting it all together by resizing the photos and uploading them to photobucket, but apparently MS Paint is using up too much of my RAM. Because now I can't even close paint, let alone save anything without an error message and I have to use task manager to close it.

The other option was to post it as an attachment like a datalog or calibration, but I have too many attachments and the file is too large


outstanding. i can upload it to a file hosting service and whatnot. i keep alot of stuff online and archived on my external. i have all sorts of manuals n stuff.
mugenep3@gmail.com if you wanna.
Emailed manual


You can email it to me :) ssj4goku45@hotmail.com
Manual emailed

Also, did you guys have to remove your rebar to fit the intercooler/charge piping? I ended up removing mine.

And, am I going to have any issue clearing my foglights?
No you don't have to remove the rebar to fit the intercooler, to install properly you should have the intercooler brackets on the top of the IC going to the rebar. I kept the rebar with no problems at all.

[japarossa]

Ok here is the manual for the Intercooler piping and turbo,
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/sironzex/emusapage1.jpg
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/sironzex/emusapage2.jpg
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/sironzex/emusapage3.jpg
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/sironzex/emusapage4.jpg
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/sironzex/emusapage5.jpg
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/sironzex/emusapage6.jpg
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/sironzex/emusapage7.jpg
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/sironzex/emusapage8.jpg
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/sironzex/emusapage9.jpg
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/sironzex/emusapage10.jpg

And the wastegate
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/sironzex/x1.jpg
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/sironzex/x2.jpg
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/sironzex/x3.jpg
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/sironzex/x4.jpg
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/sironzex/x5.jpg
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/sironzex/x6.jpg
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/sironzex/x7.jpg
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/sironzex/x8.jpg
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/sironzex/x9.jpg
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/sironzex/x10.jpg

[rolldogK20]

thanks bro!!! i was wondering where that little spring went on the wastegate. pm you my email addy

[USAF EP3]

Thanks for the great help, and emailing the manual. I really appreciate it guys. I'll post up pics of my install once I'm finished.

[MugenReplica]

It would be nice to see a set of instructions for a turbo kit that included a step on tapping your oil pan or installing the banjo bolt.

I can seriously see some......."idiot" not even hooking the return line up and then saying........."where'd all my oil go".........."stupid EMUSA turbo kit blew my motor!"

Anyways, good info guys! Keep the UPDATES coming for the budget enthusiasts.

[Rictorious88]

It would be nice to see a set of instructions for a turbo kit that included a step on tapping your oil pan or installing the banjo bolt.

I can seriously see some......."idiot" not even hooking the return line up and then saying........."where'd all my oil go".........."stupid EMUSA turbo kit blew my motor!"

Anyways, good info guys! Keep the UPDATES coming for the budget enthusiasts.

lol i was thinking the same thing!

[japarossa]

lol i was thinking the same thing!


It would be nice to see a set of instructions for a turbo kit that included a step on tapping your oil pan or installing the banjo bolt.

I can seriously see some......."idiot" not even hooking the return line up and then saying........."where'd all my oil go".........."stupid EMUSA turbo kit blew my motor!"

Anyways, good info guys! Keep the UPDATES coming for the budget enthusiasts.

Ok I know the EMUSA manual isn't all that detailed so when I put mine in I mostly only used the instructions as a reference so I could fugure out how the IC piping went in. I used the greddy instructions to install my kit as they are alot more detailed and the pieces of the kit are almost the same. The Greddy instructions include the banjo bolt to oil pan instructions. I used the banjo bolt for my setup, don't pay a fortune for the banjo bolt as it can be found online for about $10 not the $40 greddy wants. If you need the banjo bolt I have a link to a cheap one.

Ok here is the link for the greddy Ep3 turbo instructions.............Happy boosting!!!!
http://www.greddy.com/upload/file/03-CIVIC_TZ.pdf

[MugenReplica]

Ok I know the EMUSA manual isn't all that detailed so when I put mine in I mostly only used the instructions as a reference so I could fugure out how the IC piping went in. I used the greddy instructions to install my kit as they are alot more detailed and the pieces of the kit are almost the same. The Greddy instructions include the banjo bolt to oil pan instructions. I used the banjo bolt for my setup, don't pay a fortune for the banjo bolt as it can be found online for about $10 not the $40 greddy wants. If you need the banjo bolt I have a link to a cheap one.

Ok here is the link for the greddy Ep3 turbo instructions.............Happy boosting!!!!
http://www.greddy.com/upload/file/03-CIVIC_TZ.pdf

I meant no disrespect. I just thought of that scenario and how people call these kits crap and made me wonder if anybody actually had done that.

*Oh, and do these kits come with a line to be tapped or a banjo bolt setup?

[japarossa]

lol i was thinking the same thing!


It would be nice to see a set of instructions for a turbo kit that included a step on tapping your oil pan or installing the banjo bolt.

I can seriously see some......."idiot" not even hooking the return line up and then saying........."where'd all my oil go".........."stupid EMUSA turbo kit blew my motor!"

Anyways, good info guys! Keep the UPDATES coming for the budget enthusiasts.


I meant no disrespect. I just thought of that scenario and how people call these kits crap and made me wonder if anybody actually had done that.

*Oh, and do these kits come with a line to be tapped or a banjo bolt setup?
Hahaha no disrespect taken Im sure some people have screwed up the oil lines or even made the return line go uphill. lol I know but its been done. The EMUSA kit comes with the fittings for a tapped oil pan. It actually comes with a fitting you could tap or you could just drill a hole and use the nut on the inside and out with some hondabond. I just didn't want to drill the oilpan because I was planning on swapping the motor and drilling and taping wasn't worth the hassle at the time.

[rolldogK20]

Here is my email addy mholguin66@gmail.com

Thanks

[jones02]

so you guys are using the wastgate? i heard they were junk?

[japarossa]

The wastegate works fine for me, never had any problems at all.

[AKEP]

are you also using the BOV?

anyone with the kit brand new, did it come with a return line and related pieces??

[japarossa]

are you also using the BOV?

anyone with the kit brand new, did it come with a return line and related pieces??

Yes I used the bov but did end up swapping it out when I got a better one cheap, but it worked and still works with no problems. If using the BOV with less than 8psi you will need to remove one of the springs from inside it or you will get compressor surge.
Return line? You mean oil return line? Yes my kit came with complete oil feed and return lines including all the hardware. The return line came with a fitting so you could just drill out the oil pan and put a nut on the inside and outside of the oilpan with some hondabond or you could tap the pan. Me I bought a banjo bolt like in the greddy kit because I knew the motor was coming out and didn't feel like going through the hassle of drilling the pan. With the banjo bolt I just used the emusa return line.

[AUTiger]

according to Djcarbine on clubrsx, he suggests taking the wastegate apart and inspecting it. He deburred the internals to make sure everything was smooth. I believe gtimportfanatic had his wastegate diaphragm or something like that tear after a few 12psi pulls. I am replacing the wastegate with a tial, but plan on running the bov. I'll replace the oil fittings and lines with braided stainless from fast-turbo.com and replace the turbo with an emusa one rebuilt with garrett internals. I am also going to buy the godspeed dumptube so I don't have to get one fabricated. Then later down the road I will replace the intercooler with a treadstone vertical flow intercooler like on monjarassi's setup.

[AKEP]

complete win. thank you all.

[jones02]

so im gunna be running a k24a1 so i wanna boost like 12-15psi so wastgate will do me no good? i was looking at a tial spring to put in it but prolly would be better off just buying one?

[Rictorious88]

hey japarossa did you have to cut and weld any of the piping or did all bolt up ok?

[japarossa]

so im gunna be running a k24a1 so i wanna boost like 12-15psi so wastgate will do me no good? i was looking at a tial spring to put in it but prolly would be better off just buying one? You can use this wastegate but you will need a manual boost controller or a boost solenoid. You can easily do 12-15 psi on this wastegate.


hey japarossa did you have to cut and weld any of the piping or did all bolt up ok? I had to modify the 2nd piece of exhaust pipe (cat. pipe) I had to cut the end off the pipe to get rid of the bend and weld on a 3 bolt flange to bolt up to my cat back exhaust. I didn't modify the IC piping at all and had the turbo clocked up and down and the piping fit both ways. I had to fab up a dumptube. I had to trim a bit off the 90* elbow coming off the cold side of the turbo. I also made a piece to hold in the IAT sensor, mine didn't even come with the hole for it shown in the pics. This kit is a good deal but not exactly "complete" enough to just bolt on and go.

[Onasty]

My oil return line is takin a shit on me rather quickly

[Rictorious88]

You can use this wastegate but you will need a manual boost controller or a boost solenoid. You can easily do 12-15 psi on this wastegate.

I had to modify the 2nd piece of exhaust pipe (cat. pipe) I had to cut the end off the pipe to get rid of the bend and weld on a 3 bolt flange to bolt up to my cat back exhaust. I didn't modify the IC piping at all and had the turbo clocked up and down and the piping fit both ways. I had to fab up a dumptube. I had to trim a bit off the 90* elbow coming off the cold side of the turbo. I also made a piece to hold in the IAT sensor, mine didn't even come with the hole for it shown in the pics. This kit is a good deal but not exactly "complete" enough to just bolt on and go.

Oh ok cool thanks for the info! Do you also know if its possible use the rev hard kpro map and set it to the injector size that i end up buying so i can drive it to a shop to get tuned?

[Rictorious88]

My oil return line is takin a shit on me rather quickly

Any other components taking shits? or any you had to replace? Im kinda worried about after a while having to replace all the little stuff...

[japarossa]

Any other components taking shits? or any you had to replace? Im kinda worried about after a while having to replace all the little stuff... I haven't had any problems with my oil return line but I did heat wrap mine because it was close to the Downpipe and dumptube.


Oh ok cool thanks for the info! Do you also know if its possible use the rev hard kpro map and set it to the injector size that i end up buying so i can drive it to a shop to get tuned? I first uploaded the greddy 10 psi to mine, adjusted the injectors and ran it like that a few times till I got it tuned but I wouldn't go doing any 3rd gear pulls at WOT until you tune it.

[AUTiger]

My oil return line is takin a shit on me rather quickly

what oil lines are you running? The ones that come with the kit?

[jones02]

so i wouldnt have to change the sring in the wastegate? i order the kit and hondata map and boost solonoid lots of heat wrap,turbo blanket, 650 inj, clips, 255 pump, getting the dump tube made into the down pipe. and i should have it all rdy to boost?

[MugenReplica]

If you guys have a .kal for this kit, please add it to the list........in the end this helps out all the other Ephatchers.

http://www.ephatch.com/forum/showthread.php?44703-Share-your-Kpro-Emanage-AEM-EMS-etc.-tune-and-setup-here....

[japarossa]

so i wouldnt have to change the sring in the wastegate? i order the kit and hondata map and boost solonoid lots of heat wrap,turbo blanket, 650 inj, clips, 255 pump, getting the dump tube made into the down pipe. and i should have it all rdy to boost?
You will also need a 3" to 2'25" reducer to go from the T.B. to the charge piping, about 10 ft of vaccum line, a hondata or similar map sensor if you plan on boosting more than 10 psi, you will also need a new upper rad hose to clear the BOV, it will fit without it but its very tight and the BOV will touch the upper rad hose. You need to get napa part #7940 see the link below for more details then you will be ready for boost.
http://www.ephatch.com/forum/showthread.php?43143-Upper-Radiator-Hose

I will include my Kpro kal. to the link listed below. It is a conservative tune making around 240 hp, its a good place to start and safe.

[rolldogK20]

Use at your own risk am not reponsble if something goes wrong.. Here is my Kal i made 257hp and 228tq. i have rc750, 4bar hondata, hondata boost soleniod, 2.5 straight pipe to a vibtate muffler, stock fuel pump running at 8.5psi. and i forgot i have a RBC intake.

[Onasty]

my dumptube is open and kinda directly over the oil return line. I dont know what i should use

[rolldogK20]

my dumptube is open and kinda directly over the oil return line. I dont know what i should use

Did your kit come with a 45degree 10an fitting?

[Onasty]

nope

[rolldogK20]

nope

Thats what you need to keep it away from the dump tube also did you tap right above your oil pan drain plug?

[Onasty]

Thats what you need to keep it away from the dump tube also did you tap right above your oil pan drain plug?

nope tapped to the left side of it and i need the 45 for the top or bottom

[AKEP]

My oil return line is takin a shit on me rather quickly


my dumptube is open and kinda directly over the oil return line.

lol. win.

[japarossa]

my dumptube is open and kinda directly over the oil return line. I dont know what i should use
Thats how I had mine at first but knew it was going to burn something sooner or later. If you still have the old ep manifold cut it up and make a pipe, the flanges were included in the kit

[rolldogK20]

nope tapped to the left side of it and i need the 45 for the top or bottom

the return from the turbo ..

[Onasty]

Thats how I had mine at first but knew it was going to burn something sooner or later. If you still have the old ep manifold cut it up and make a pipe, the flanges were included in the kit

i thought cuz it was stainless steel i would be good.

[AKEP]

is a boost solenoid necessary?

[japarossa]

is a boost solenoid necessary?
No its not necessary, you can run off the spring up to 10 psi. To boost higher than that you will need a boost controller or boost solenoid and MAP sensor.

[AUTiger]

I wouldn't run a wastegate spring of 10psi on a stock map sensor. reason being, if you over boost, k-pro and boost protection won't be helping you out. I would run a 7psi spring, tune and see if there is any creep whatsoever and then set your protection at like 9-10psi for safe measure.

My Tial wastegate came in yesterday, I had no idea they were that big. It has a 10psi spring installed now and I have thought about just picking up a smaller spring to get me started, but honestly, what's another 200 for a boost control solenoid and a map sensor, then I can run 11-13psi and be happy.

[AKEP]

would one recommend a wideband o2 sensor too?

[AUTiger]

would one recommend a wideband o2 sensor too?

couldn't tell ya, I am most likely going with the AEM Uego a/f gauge that comes with the wideband sensor.

[AKEP]

couldn't tell ya, I am most likely going with the AEM Uego a/f gauge that comes with the wideband sensor.

yeah my hommie was talking about getting one for better tuning...

[gtimportfanatic]

would one recommend a wideband o2 sensor too?

im gonna do neptune tunerview


http://www.xenocron.com/tunerview-ii-lcd-large-dash-kit-p-401.html?osCsid=a42330e085f7b5a39b46af78b54cdf85

[japarossa]

A wideband gauge is nice to have so you can see whats going on in real time but its not necessary to tune or run the car. You can also get a boost solenoid and map sensor alot cheaper than $200, don't buy a Hondata solenoid just get a mac solenoid which is what hondata will send you with a hondata sticker on it. The mac solenoid sells on ebay for about $30. I wouldn't reccomend a 10 psi spring either, you are better off with the solenoid then you can set up your boost by gear so your not spinnin the tires off it in 1st,2nd,3rd.



would one recommend a wideband o2 sensor too? Your stock o2 sensor is wideband, I believe all ep's have a wideband primary sensor and thats all you need to tune.

[AKEP]

nice, i didn't know that. it was only just brought up to me. the less guages i have to look at the better.

also, would this work for a dumptube? i wouldn't think it would...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/35MM-38MM-Wastegate-Dump-Pipe-01-05-02-Civic-SI-RSX-K20-/180585870764?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a0bc1b5ac

or this?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/35mm-38mm-Wastegate-Stainless-Steel-Dump-pipe-Gaskets-/380307815721?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item588c1cbd29

[jones02]

how do these manis fit?

[AKEP]

exhaust mani?

[japarossa]

how do these manis fit?
Exhaust manifold? The exhaust manifold fits perfectly, direct bolt on with no modifications.


nice, i didn't know that. it was only just brought up to me. the less guages i have to look at the better.

also, would this work for a dumptube? i wouldn't think it would...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/35MM-38MM-Wastegate-Dump-Pipe-01-05-02-Civic-SI-RSX-K20-/180585870764?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a0bc1b5ac

or this?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/35mm-38mm-Wastegate-Stainless-Steel-Dump-pipe-Gaskets-/380307815721?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item588c1cbd29

The first dump tube looks more like the one I made but I'm not sure what the little elbow piece is for. I think the second one will work fine, I was going to use it but they wanted $50 to ship it to me in Canada.

[jones02]

ya i was going to order the treadstone one but if this one if fine and havnt been crackingor anything i might just get this one..

[japarossa]

I haven't heard of the manifold's cracking from anyone yet, this manifold is pretty thick so I don't see it cracking anytime soon. I have seen the cast greddy one and this is much thicker and heavier. I have a call into boostflow, waiting on a response about one of their sidemount manifolds.

[AKEP]

The first dump tube looks more like the one I made but I'm not sure what the little elbow piece is for. I think the second one will work fine, I was going to use it but they wanted $50 to ship it to me in Canada.

i dont think the first one would fit, but it might. the second one, i heard might run into the subframe. i might go for that one though, since its easier to cut and weld the tip...

[AKEP]

updated first post with "things we should buy" lol

[japarossa]

You should make another heading for things you will NEED to buy, include Kpro, boost gauge, the 2.5"-3" coupling,4 port vacuum block, vacuum lines and atleast 440cc saturated injectors. Since these are things you will NEED for it to work properly. Under things you may want to buy include motor mounts because I ripped the passenger side mount out of the hole on my first day of street tuning.

I am in the process of swapping out my turbo'd a3 for the k24a2, so I am taking alot of pics/video to hopefully help some people out installing this kit. Once I get the k24a2 in there I may do a video of the complete turbo install to make things easier. Its just taking some time because I am polishing everything aluminum.

[AKEP]

damn you passenger side motor mount -_-

Just found a dude thats been running a K20A2 at 15 PSI with this turbo too. It's in a DA.

[AKEP]

Bump, I can hook you up if you wanna buy anything. PM me for info.

[ep-unit]

here's an ebay kit with a turbonetics turbo, but its for a RSX, intercooler needs to be modded i think:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TURBONETICS-TURBO-KIT-02-06-RSX-DC5-BOLT-ON-TYPE-S-K20-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQfitsZModelQ3aRSXQQhashZitem1c19 03e758QQitemZ120678770520QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruck Q5fPartsQ5fAccessories#ht_6655wt_1114

[gtimportfanatic]

its a thousand dollars more than the emusa kit lmao.. waste of money

[AKEP]

and still no dumptube.

[spartan]

here's an ebay kit with a turbonetics turbo, but its for a RSX, intercooler needs to be modded i think:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TURBONETICS-TURBO-KIT-02-06-RSX-DC5-BOLT-ON-TYPE-S-K20-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQfitsZModelQ3aRSXQQhashZitem1c19 03e758QQitemZ120678770520QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruck Q5fPartsQ5fAccessories#ht_6655wt_1114

damn dude we already went over this one.
best bang for youre buck is EMUSA kit
and you better buy it fast they have already raised prices.

[AKEP]

or hit me up and i can forward you someone that can cut you a deal.

[AKEP]

whooo baby. guess what just showed up today?
http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/3839/img0319m.jpg (http://img820.imageshack.us/i/img0319m.jpg/)
thass rightt.

[japarossa]

Is this the one that came with the kit?

[AUTiger]

i would assume so, it looks like it says emusa on it

[AKEP]

correct.

[superchargedk20]

Is this kit goin on a a3? and did u get a whole kit or just the turbo?

[AKEP]

K24A2, got the whole kit. posted the money shot though.

got 600cc Deatschwerks injectors on the way too.

[AUTiger]

i'm interested in seeing how those injectors work out duty cycle wise. I have been leaning towards FIC 625CC's, only because I don't ever plan on going higher than 350hp.

How long til this is all installed and tuned?

[superchargedk20]

im excited for this build

[AKEP]

after next weekend should be installed. i just bought some hose clamps to replace the t clamps. that way i can use a socket instead of an allen wrench.

idk the timeframe for the tune, i'll probably street tune @ 4psi and work my way up. probably a month or so. it wont be daily driven, and not hard when it will be.

right now im going over all the threaded fittings with teflon tape.

[japarossa]

I would keep the T clamps they work much better than hose clamps. Hose clamps will stretch, you will be blowing off pipes and the 4 clamps behind the bumper are a pain to get at on the side of the highway.

[AKEP]

i'll consider that.

also, i've seen thinner pipe walls. i thought these would be pretty thin. not bad at all. but the welding could be a little better.

[AUTiger]

did you go with the straight dumptube or are you getting one custom made?

[japarossa]

The I.C. piping was better than I thought it would be to, I have seen some so thin the clamps could crush it. That turbo worked pretty good for me last year and still has no shaft play at all. I'm waiting for the EMUSA GT3582 to get here so I can give it a try this year.

This one-
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/sironzex/emusa.jpg

[AKEP]

did you go with the straight dumptube or are you getting one custom made?
straight, i hope it fits =/

The I.C. piping was better than I thought it would be to, I have seen some so thin the clamps could crush it. That turbo worked pretty good for me last year and still has no shaft play at all. I'm waiting for the EMUSA GT3582 to get here so I can give it a try this year.

This one-
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/sironzex/emusa.jpg
they said the t3/t4 and the Garrett knock offs are pretty good, the guy i ordered my stuff through said he's put a couple on his 240 and his friends and they work great.

[japarossa]

Thats it they can't be to bad and at $200 I will get it rebuilt to garrett specs for $250 if I have any problems. It will still be alot cheaper than buying a real Garrett Gt3582.

[AKEP]

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/1280/img0326mz.jpg

[AUTiger]

does it come with a tube to run the filter over the tranny or just the filter straight off the turbo?

[japarossa]

does it come with a tube to run the filter over the tranny or just the filter straight off the turbo?
It comes with the 3" pipe to run it towards the transmission,

[gtimportfanatic]

small pipe.. i made mine with a piece of old intake i had

[AKEP]

and its like 8" long.

[superchargedk20]

Start ur own build thread

[AKEP]

i will. in time =]. i've done nothing but tear apart and prepare for build. plus i have things like this thread and my transmission rebuild thread coming up. im getting there.

[superchargedk20]

I'm wondering how that thumbnail of that ep got on my post. I don't even know who's car that is lol

[gtimportfanatic]

lmfaoo.. aww man... i cant wait til starrt my build

[AKEP]

I'm wondering how that thumbnail of that ep got on my post. I don't even know who's car that is lol

thats what i was wonderin...lol

[superchargedk20]

ghost.....

[Onasty]

i still love how much faster this car is...theres just no traction

[superchargedk20]

i think we should race this spring

[Onasty]

i think we should race this spring

Sounds good lol how much power r u pushin again....Question has neone pushed the emusa turbo to like 20 psi

[superchargedk20]

327. I raced dre when he had that turbo on his car.

[japarossa]

Traction was my big problem at the track last summer, definatley need to get some slicks for this year and better street tires. EMUSA told me they have pushed it to 20+ lbs but what salesman wouldn't say that lol

[AKEP]

one guy on honda-tech i think was pushing 18 daily on a k20a2

[AUTiger]

djcarbine on crsx has run 15-16psi on his auto base, but he rebuilds the turbo with garrett internals.

[AKEP]

how do you get turbos rebuilt to Garrett specs?

[USAF EP3]

So...update from me. The EMUSA intercooler kit is NOT compatible with the GReddy bolt on turbo kit. The upper charge piping/coupling doesn't connect properly to the "j-pipe" coming down from the compressor housing of the T517Z. Sucks, I really was looking forward to using the intercooler the guy gave me with the kit. Guess I have to go buy the GReddy intercooler kit now (sigh)

[AUTiger]

how do you get turbos rebuilt to Garrett specs?

he bought the garrett rebuild kit. It is still the emusa compressor wheel, but replaced all the seals and possibly the bearings.

I just checked his thread and for $40 he got the rebuild kit for the bearings and oil seals

[AKEP]

So...update from me. The EMUSA intercooler kit is NOT compatible with the GReddy bolt on turbo kit.
lame.


he bought the garrett rebuild kit. It is still the emusa compressor wheel, but replaced all the seals and possibly the bearings.
I just checked his thread and for $40 he got the rebuild kit for the bearings and oil seals

So, you just call them up and ask for a bearings and seal kit? does it matter what size anything is?

[gtimportfanatic]

i think we should race this spring

i want in on this race too.. a3 and all!

[japarossa]

how do you get turbos rebuilt to Garrett specs?


he bought the garrett rebuild kit. It is still the emusa compressor wheel, but replaced all the seals and possibly the bearings.

I just checked his thread and for $40 he got the rebuild kit for the bearings and oil seals

Go to a company like this to upgrade the internals for you....http://www.blaastperformance.com/index.php this link should take you right to the rebuild for knock-off turbo's. Some people try to do this at home with simple tools but rebuilding a turbo is precision work and without the proper tools and equipment to do a rebuild, it will not last.
Replacing the bearings, thrust system and balancing the rotating assembly are things that can't be done properly without the proper tools.

[AKEP]

updated first post. that 6 month waranty is legit tho.

[japarossa]

Yeah the warranty is legit, blaast performance has a very good reputation and they do stand behind their work. Alot of local guys have used them for rebuilds and I only know of one that ever had to go back for warranty work.

[superchargedk20]

i want in on this race too.. a3 and all!

i thought u were gona be ready by then?

[jones02]

The I.C. piping was better than I thought it would be to, I have seen some so thin the clamps could crush it. That turbo worked pretty good for me last year and still has no shaft play at all. I'm waiting for the EMUSA GT3582 to get here so I can give it a try this year.

This one-
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/sironzex/emusa.jpg

this is the one i was going to get when i order my kit this week. but i was woundering about clearance since i have a k24a1 this is going on?

[jones02]

does anyone have pics of this kit nstalled on the cars??

[gtimportfanatic]

i thought u were gona be ready by then?

nah.. this shit gets expensive fast.. lol.. im not tryna buy anything on my CC like last time

[gtimportfanatic]

does anyone have pics of this kit nstalled on the cars??

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y134/damion666/DSC00166.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y134/damion666/DSC00169.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y134/damion666/DSC00170.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y134/damion666/DSC00135.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y134/damion666/DSC00136.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y134/damion666/DSC00320.jpg

[japarossa]

Did you modified that whole upper I.C piping? For the BOV?
Here is mine as it came in the kit. I clocked the turbo up instead of down as the instructions say. I mostly did this because it was easier at the time and I figured it was going to be easier to get to the 90* coupling if it blew off. The gt3582 should fit no problem because it isn't much bigger in diameter than the one the kit comes with its just alot fatter and there is lots of room above this turbo for the extra hieght of the k24.
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/sironzex/z1021-2-1.jpg

[Rictorious88]

damn you passenger side motor mount -_- .

If im only going to run 10psi on this kit do you guys think i need to replace all the motor mounts?

[superchargedk20]

If im only going to run 10psi on this kit do you guys think i need to replace all the motor mounts?

prolly not. But i would do it regarless

[superchargedk20]

nah.. this shit gets expensive fast.. lol.. im not tryna buy anything on my CC like last time

yep im still payin off my build, oh well it was worth it. So I decided not to up the boost..... But wait till u see my new car once i get my tax return!!!

[gtimportfanatic]

oh boy..

[jones02]

so this price is up to 680 now for this kit, and if you switch to the gt35 its 790

[Rictorious88]

Did any of you guys buy from http://www.speedyracer.com or just ebay? Trying to find out if speedy's site is better to order from or their ebay store..

[jones02]

im talking to speedy and emusa. speedy its 600 and at emusa its 680. im just seeing what one i can get a better deal from getting the gt35 turbo instead.

[japarossa]

If im only going to run 10psi on this kit do you guys think i need to replace all the motor mounts?
I would say yes because I ripped the passenger side mount right out on my first pass down the track, now the motor doesn't move at all.

[AKEP]

Did any of you guys buy from http://www.speedyracer.com or just eBay? Trying to find out if speedy's site is better to order from or their eBay store..


im talking to speedy and EMUSA. speedy its 600 + SHIPPING and at EMUSA its 680 SHIPPED. im just seeing what one i can get a better deal from getting the gt35 turbo instead.
^fixed
same parts, I sent EMUSA the link to speedys page and its the same. Jones, I thought I got you hooked up with EMUSA? I can't say the price but its better than that. Speedy's page doesn't include shipping, it comes out the same as buying it from eBay though.

[Rictorious88]

^fixed
same parts, I sent EMUSA the link to speedys page and its the same. Jones, I thought I got you hooked up with EMUSA? I can't say the price but its better than that. Speedy's page doesn't include shipping, it comes out the same as buying it from eBay though.
ok cool. lol i want hooked up too!
I wonder if either EMUSA or Speedy would give me a discount if they didnt include the BOV and the wastegate. id rather just buy HKS and tial...

[AKEP]

yeah they should...pm sent...

[USAF EP3]

Man I feel retarded buying my used GReddy kit now.

I should've just saved the 1400 and spent it on this kit + goodies.

I just got income check today and it's about 850, and I'm highly debating whether to buy this kit or not. I already have the intercooler kit from them, the other parts I would need is the turbo, manifold, dump pipe, downpipe, and wastegate.


Also, do these downpipe have a 3-bolt flange that mates up perfectly to aftermarket exhaust or did you guys have to cut and weld you exhausts?

[Rictorious88]

man i feel retarded buying my used greddy kit now.

I should've just saved the 1400 and spent it on this kit + goodies.

I just got income check today and it's about 850, and i'm highly debating whether to buy this kit or not. I already have the intercooler kit from them, the other parts i would need is the turbo, manifold, dump pipe, downpipe, and wastegate.


Also, do these downpipe have a 3-bolt flange that mates up perfectly to aftermarket exhaust or did you guys have to cut and weld you exhausts?


the cat pipe needs to be altered because it has a little bend at the end you have to cut off and you need to have a 3 bolt flange welded on to fit up with ep exhaust. I think the cat. Pipe is made to fit up to their rsx 3" cat. Back exhaust.

:)

[USAF EP3]

Thanks for that, I didn't know what page that info was on. I was too busy outside trying to figure out where I need to run my vacuum line lol.

[AKEP]

^ yeah, cause its a big ass 2 bolt flange for some reason. i'd rather chop a couple inches off the DP and connect it to my stock cat, and get a megan test pipe.

[USAF EP3]

I'm using the Megan test pipe right now bolted up to my GReddy downpipe. It sounds LIKE A BOSS.

But, alas, all good things must come to an end and I need to quiet it down a bit so I dropped a little cash on an eBay exhaust with a "titanium burnt tip" lol.

At least I'll "look" like I got a nice exhaust, haha.

[japarossa]

Man I feel retarded buying my used GReddy kit now.

I should've just saved the 1400 and spent it on this kit + goodies.

I just got income check today and it's about 850, and I'm highly debating whether to buy this kit or not. I already have the intercooler kit from them, the other parts I would need is the turbo, manifold, dump pipe, downpipe, and wastegate.


Also, do these downpipe have a 3-bolt flange that mates up perfectly to aftermarket exhaust or did you guys have to cut and weld you exhausts?

No the cat pipe in the kit doesnt bolt right up to Ep exhaust you will have to mod. one piece or the other.

[jones02]

almost a week later with no email back no call back. nohing from these guys :s must not like money? ha

[jones02]

since i cant get a awnser from anwhere else. what injectos will be btter? Siemens 650cc or Rc 650cc? i can get both for same price.

[japarossa]

I like RC's but I don't think there is a big difference mostly just personal preference. RC stands behind their injectors with a year warranty not sure about siemens, Just make sure they are high impedance/saturated injectors.

[USAF EP3]

I like RC's but I don't think there is a big difference mostly just personal preference. RC stands behind their injectors with a year warranty not sure about siemens, Just make sure they are high impedance/saturated injectors.

What's the difference between saturated injectors and peak+hold injectors?

[gtimportfanatic]

our engines need high imp.. if you run low imp injectors you run the risk of frying your ECU..although i only see it being done in a race situation.. either way better safe than sorry..

[AKEP]

maybe he thinks your a flake? call them up.

[japarossa]

Saturated injectors don't need an injector/resistor box, I read on Hondata somewhere that back in the early days of Kpro alot of guys were burning out ecu's using low impedance injectors with no resistor box. The car comes with high impedance injectors so I would just stay with them but some companies like RC only make high impedance injectors up to 750cc.

[gtimportfanatic]

FIC and ID injectors come in every size high imp.. clubrsx has good prices on those injectors if interested

[jones02]

do you need to run the resistor box? the ones im getting are used the Siemens 650cc and they re high imp. he didnt say anythign about a resistor box tho?

[AKEP]

what size bolts did you guys use to mount the IC? and you just made brackets correct?

[USAF EP3]

what size bolts did you guys use to mount the IC? and you just made brackets correct?

When I was going to mount the IC I went to Lowe's and bought a 1/4" thick of aluminum beam. I know it's a little on the pricey side for it, but it won't rust on you. It was about 5 feet long.

The bolts that thread into the IC are the same pitch as the bolts that hold our bumper support beam.

[japarossa]

what size bolts did you guys use to mount the IC? and you just made brackets correct?
I got bolts for the intercooler in the kit, but I made the brackets using 1-1/4" steel flat stock. Mounted to the bumper support and lower rad support.


do you need to run the resistor box? the ones im getting are used the Siemens 650cc and they re high imp. he didnt say anythign about a resistor box tho?
You should be good if they are High Impedance injectors.

[gtimportfanatic]

i had siemens low imp.. and i ran a box to avoid having anything happening to the ecu

[jones02]

Finally heard back from these guys. Didn't awnser anything I asked lol. But to run the gt35 turbo you have to change the flange and they want 150us for it. They still haven't gave me a price on the kit with everything yet but hopefully they do soon. Maybe they can put the flange on or that's what they ment by its going to be 150. Cuz to me that's a crazy price for just a flange :s

[japarossa]

They must mean the flange on the downpipe since the one that comes in the kit is 5 bolt. The gt35 has a t/3 flange and the manifold is t/3 so you are fine there. I would just buy a 4 bolt v-band from another ebay seller for the turbo then cut off the 5 bolt flange and have a v-band welded on that. Thats what I'm going to do and for about $50 not $150

[jones02]

when are you guys hiting full boost with the turbo that comes in the kit? i think i might just hold off on the gt3582 till later on.

[japarossa]

Some where around 3200-3500. Are you putting this kit on a K20a3?

[jones02]

k24a1
and is this the mac boost solinoid. so far i have injectors, map sensor, walbro fuel pump and install kit
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Boost-Solenoid-AEM-Autronic-MAC-3-port-Tru-30-2400-KIT-/230568810133?pt=Race_Car_Parts&hash=item35aef8d695

[japarossa]

This is the mac solenoid I just bought and its a bit cheaper.http://cgi.ebay.ca/Boost-Solenoid-AEM-Autronic-MAC-3-port-Tru-30-2400BCS-/230576943737?pt=Race_Car_Parts&hash=item35af74f279
And it looks like your only ships to the U.S.

[jones02]

just bought that 1 too. 36 bucks shipped is a hell of alot better then 100 before shipping for the hondata and its the same damn thing. can you pm me with what you are going to do with the gt35?

[japarossa]

Has anyone tried or thought about trying this flexable dump tube? It looks pretty good to me and with only one weld to do welding the threaded adapter onto the downpipe. This way I will be 100% legit instead of running an open dump tube.
http://cgi.ebay.ca/35mm-38mm-Wastegate-Flex-Stainless-Dump-Pipe-Kit-D6-/260737941853?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3cb531415d

[jones02]

looks like a good idea, you should give it a try and see if itworks and let us no ;)
how do you have your oil feed? sandwich adaptor? thats what i was thinking on using, good idea or no?

[japarossa]

No I have it done with a t in the oil pressure sender hole, all the parts come in a feed return line kit to do it like this. I think most turbo cars on here are done this way. I might give the dump tube a try, the shipping to Canada is a bit high for what it is.

[AKEP]

i just realized that canada's money is worth more than americas...

[gtimportfanatic]

who woulda thought that day would come lol

[jones02]

last night american was more. canadian was .9987 lol. so damn near par! but today its worth 1.01. ihavnt seen that in a long time

[japarossa]

i just realized that canada's money is worth more than americas... Its been like that for a few weeks now,

[jones02]

Finally heard back. But seeing if they can go cheaper with no BOV since a buddy of mine was hard up for cash and I got his brand new hks with flange for 50 bucks lol.

[jones02]

its on its way! EMUSA CREW! lol

[japarossa]

Welcome to the crew!!! Did they make the changes to the kit that you wanted? Did you get the GT35?

[jones02]

no im getting the normal kit but with no bov. im going to get the gt35 down the road and send it out to get rebuilt right away. ill let you tinker with it first ;) lol i got the kit shipped for alot cheaper then what i was thinking. i dealt with sean. hes a good guy, hooked me up. i called napa here for tat rad hose and they cant find itwith that part number. is it different in canada to the states? im about 30min drive from the states and go over all the time so i might just pick it up there

[ep-unit]

Use at your own risk am not reponsble if something goes wrong.. Here is my Kal i made 257hp and 228tq. i have rc750, 4bar hondata, hondata boost soleniod, 2.5 straight pipe to a vibtate muffler, stock fuel pump running at 8.5psi. and i forgot i have a RBC intake.

i see that this member is using a stock fuel pump, its it necessary to upgrade to a 255?

[jones02]

i see that this member is using a stock fuel pump, its it necessary to upgrade to a 255?

what i have read it isnt, you can make up to like 300hp or just under on it. but for the 100 bucks y not upgrade?

[japarossa]

The part number for the upper rad hose is the same in Canada UNR-7940 you may have to give them the "UNR" (I had to) its not a part that stores keep in stock mine had to come from the warehouse in the next shipment they got or I had to pay $40 to get purolator to bring it in. Just go on NAPA.ca and check for it, its there I just checked.
Sean is the guy to deal with, when I heard AKEP was looking into this kit I told him to go to sean he's a good guy and doesn't seem to me like he would F**K you around. I wish I was 30 mins from the boarder so I could pick up some "Hose Candy" http://www.oomphlabs.com/product/hose-candy/ but so far it doesn't look like they ship to Canada.

[japarossa]

i see that this member is using a stock fuel pump, its it necessary to upgrade to a 255? I ran mine last summer with the stock pump with no problems but I have upgraded to a 255 for this year.

[jones02]

haha i was telling them NBH lol thtsy they couldnt find it,how much did it cost you? is only 16 in the states, i drive pass one when i go down there and where is hose candy sold! lol they might not be able to ship herebut i can bring it back and ship. are you running a vac block?

[japarossa]

I think the rad hose cost me $24 CAN. I think hose candy is only sold off their site, if I have to I will just get a US shipping address from myus.com. I'm still emailing back and forth with them, even the 1866 number on the site can't be called from Canada.
Whats your plan for having the car E-tested with the motor swap and boost? I'm from Ontario and planning to move back but that E-test shit scares me with such a modified car......

[jones02]

where in ontario are you from? and i need a etest this year so im getting that done before i do the swap and everythin. waiting for a nice day and ill run the car out to get it done.

[japarossa]

where in ontario are you from? and i need a etest this year so im getting that done before i do the swap and everythin. waiting for a nice day and ill run the car out to get it done. Thats ok for a few years but what then? I don't want to have to swap my motor back to the a3 everytime to E-test it. I'm from Brampton/Mississauga.

Yes I run a vacuum block, I didn't tap the new manifold though I got the karcepts RBC adapter with 2 vacuum ports so I can get rid of all the hoses running on top of the manifold. I might not get hose candy now that I see you can get push lock fittings that pretty much look the same for a quarter of the price from parts for trucks, I guess they are airbrake fittings for big rigs

[jones02]

your from like just over an hour away, and im not sure what im gunna do then. ill figure something out. my ex has the same car stock?lol fake etest? lmao

[MugenReplica]

I love what I'm seeing in this thread......:mredface:

[tht1guy]

can someone post what they whp they are making out of box installed untuned and how it runs? i'm thinking i might need to start saving!

[AKEP]

Its been like that for a few weeks now,

i know i went and looked at the graphs, i bet Canada had a hay day when that happened...

[jones02]

i know i went and looked at the graphs, i bet Canada had a hay day when that happened...

i bought a turbo kit and everything ;) lol

[japarossa]

can someone post what they whp they are making out of box installed untuned and how it runs? i'm thinking i might need to start saving!what do you mean by untuned? You can't turbo the car without a tune of some kind and you definatley can't do WOT pulls for horsepower numbers without a tune. Nobody in this thread is crazy enough to find out "out of the box installed untuned" horespower numbers.

[jones02]

I love what I'm seeing in this thread......:mredface:
??

[MugenReplica]

??

Ephatchers coming together to prove you don't need a $2.5k turbo kit to turbo charge your Ep3 reliably and with decent results.

[jones02]

this thread has been alot of help and i think there is enough info for every lil thing you need and need to know about tis kit now.

[AKEP]

i bought a turbo kit and everything ;) lol

exactly this..

[jones02]

you guys running an inline fuel filter? that might be something to add to the first post. not a must but good to have. im going to get one but what size is are fuel lines?

[japarossa]

Ephatchers coming together to prove you don't need a $2.5k turbo kit to turbo charge your Ep3 reliably and with decent results.
:msmile:



you guys running an inline fuel filter? that might be something to add to the first post. not a must but good to have. im going to get one but what size is are fuel lines?
I would never do it, I don't think anything will get past the filter in the tank if it gets past that it needs replacing.

[gtimportfanatic]

can someone post what they whp they are making out of box installed untuned and how it runs? i'm thinking i might need to start saving!

i think i made 195whp 150trq.. 6lbs..

[jones02]

just ordered my quiafe lsd to add to this lil build!

[heyvortek]

this thread should be stickied..no one runs revhard anymore :) nice build guys.

[superchargedk20]

this thread should be stickied..no one runs revhard anymore :) nice build guys.

i do :mcry:

[MugenReplica]

this thread should be stickied..no one runs revhard anymore :) nice build guys.

Honestly, when I made my post last night, I was thinking the exact same thing......

[MugenReplica]

i do :mcry:

This kit has limitations compared to the RevHard kit IMO. Show me somebody with the EMUSA kit that's making 300whp (on a K20a3) like the Revhard kit on similar boost (please, prove me wrong). I like the EMUSA kit, but I have yet to see an accordexecp95, Jaeguyooon, or jeenyuss with the EMUSA kit do similar (even though some of them had shitty turbos compared to you guys). You guys need to up your boost........

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[gtimportfanatic]

i do :mcry:

me too... new setup is a rev-hard mani

[gtimportfanatic]

This kit has limitations compared to the RevHard kit IMO. Show me somebody with the EMUSA kit that's making 300whp (on a K20a3) like the Revhard kit on similar boost (please, prove me wrong). I like the EMUSA kit, but I have yet to see an accordexecp95, Jaeguyooon, or jeenyuss with the EMUSA kit do similar (even though some of them had shitty turbos compared to you guys). You guys need to up your boost........

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i dont know what my EMUSA kit was making when i raced Superchargedk20 but he beat me by like 2 cars and on paper he had over 80whp more than me.. Onasty made 303whp.. but he has a hybrid vtec killer a1/a3 .. but... i will say that i made more than Jeenyus on 7lbs though.. if that means much

[superchargedk20]

i thought u made 263 on 7? Thats 64 not over 80 lol. And u were at 9psi so u were pushing more than 263. And remember I had a passenger and ur revving like 500rpms more than me and i had the window open to film the race while u had ur all closed Plus i bounced off the rev on our first race haha hence my little flame on our video lol. Lots of tiny little factors that made it closer than what it couldve been

[gtimportfanatic]

yeah but at no time was it drastically different... loll we both were going by that STi, if we didnt run outta road lol.. oh yeah i think i got the 80 from the trq... btw did u call chris?

[superchargedk20]

yeah but at no time was it drastically different... loll we both were going by that STi, if we didnt run outta road lol.. oh yeah i think i got the 80 from the trq... btw did u call chris?

I did. I talked to him.... But unfortunately if everything goes as planned I wont be able to boost anymore.......... If tomorrow goes as planned, your gona be seeing a new members ride very shortly

[02TWSI]

I did. I talked to him.... But unfortunately if everything goes as planned I wont be able to boost anymore.......... If tomorrow goes as planned, your gona be seeing a new members ride very shortly

sounds like someones planning on saying fuck the EP :P

I love this thread, I really do, so much useful info...VOTE FOR STICKY

[superchargedk20]

sounds like someones planning on saying fuck the EP :P

I love this thread, I really do, so much useful info...VOTE FOR STICKY

god no. I love my ep. Just getting a new DD.... But most people might not consider it a DD

[AKEP]

sounds like someones planning on saying fuck the EP :P

I love this thread, I really do, so much useful info...VOTE FOR STICKY

i second this motion.

[gtimportfanatic]

god no. I love my ep. Just getting a new DD.... But most people might not consider it a DD


i hope ur not buying a talon? this better be an Evo or something

[superchargedk20]

i hope ur not buying a talon? this better be an Evo or something

nope nothing that expensive. car was 8k after tax. I test drove it today and fell in love. I put a deposit and applied for the loan at my bank. I shouldnt have a problem for a 5k loan and paying the rest in cash. I just dont wana start boasting on what i bought and then get denied at the bank. But Dan knows what it is. If hes lurking on here Im sure he'll give his opinion

[1fasthb]

so what is the difference from the rsx turbo kit and the ep3 turbo kit if anything? also if i get the ep3 kit all i need is injectors and kpro right? or can i run this safely to my stock ecu?

[japarossa]

When I first put the kit on all I had was RC550cc injectors, boost gauge and Kpro so yes thats all you need. The rsx kit and the ep kit are very similar but the RSX kit looks like it has a bit different intercooler piping.

[1fasthb]

When I first put the kit on all I had was RC550cc injectors, boost gauge and Kpro so yes thats all you need. The rsx kit and the ep kit are very similar but the RSX kit looks like it has a bit different intercooler piping.

ah ok on the rsx kit, and :( on kpro it cost so much like 800+ killer

[AKEP]

yeah it has a couple more pipes, idk why though

[jones02]

did they give you a tracking number when you ordered? i been emailing them and i havnt hard a word back since i sent payment.

[AKEP]

nah, i just had good faith. it showed up a couple days early believe it or not.

[japarossa]

Who did you ask them to ship it with? I asked them to ship fedex for me to save on customs brokerage, duty and taxes. He will probably declare a low value for it. I got mine 4 days after I ordered but I paid extra for fedex. If they sent it UPS your gonna get charged at the door.

[AKEP]

i didn't ask, he just said, it should be there friday. i think i got it wednesday or thursday.

[jones02]

He said he's sending as a gift. And I did ask for fedex.

[USAF EP3]

Okay another new update from me.

NOTE TO AKEP: You might want to edit this into your original post please.

I DID make the intercooler kit work with the GReddy bolt on turbo kit.

What you have to do is cut PIPE B (the pipe with the 45 degree bend on it) and turn it into a straight pipe.

I cut the pipe with a hack saw, took me about 10 mins total to cut.

Use the 90 degree 2.5" to 2.5" coupler to mate PIPE B to the other half of PIPE B you just cut off (should still have a 45 degree bend) then connect that piece to the 2.5" to 2" reducing coupler to the GReddy J pipe that bolts to the compressor.

Hopefully this is useful for you guys out there with my kit and dont want to spend 900+ on a GReddy intercooler.

[USAF EP3]

This is what it should look like:

http://i54.tinypic.com/6gd2l3.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/10z1qmg.jpg
http://i54.tinypic.com/5evmtc.jpg

And this is what it looked like when I was done:

http://i52.tinypic.com/mrsgad.jpg
http://i53.tinypic.com/2dudtmt.jpg

[AKEP]

idgi. how did this solve your problem? what was it that didn't let it fit? are you just adding flexibility to B Pipe so it does fit?

[USAF EP3]

idgi. how did this solve your problem? what was it that didn't let it fit? are you just adding flexibility to B Pipe so it does fit?

B PIPE had a 45 degree bend. I needed a 90 degree bend. So to correct it what I did was CUT B PIPE where the bend begins and made half of it into a straight pipe.

Then I used the other half and with 2 90 degree couplers I got my 90 degree bend I needed to make the piping work.

If you have the EMUSA installation manual (I have it if you don't), take a look at B PIPE and you'll see what I mean.

Also, I just noticed that my intercooler kit came with that extra 90 degree 2" to 2.5" reducing coupler, for those with the GReddy kit you need this if your IC kit does not come with it.

Oh, before you put on the pipe, please use some 60 grit sandpaper and sand down the rough edges, you'll save couplers this way.

[AKEP]

oh yeah, dont email them. they dont answer. just call if you need questions answered.

updated first post to link the instructions on 3rd pages and usaf ep3's pipe mod.

usaf ep3, you should use one of the pics, preferably the one that shows the piping laid out, and show us where you made the cuts and edit your post to show that.

[jones02]

What plugs are you guys using? I was going to get NGK Iridium pn:IFR7G-11KS cold 7. They would be good wouldn't they? A colder plug would be good to add to the 1st post also

[AKEP]

Just for reference:
Stock spark plugs from NGK - IZFR6K11
Stock spark plugs from Denso - IK20L

Colder plug I found on google that everyone else is using (to my knowledge) is the NGK IRIWAY 8, BKR7EIX-11, or Denso IK22's.

[jones02]

ok i did some searching, you go 1 step colder for every 10psi. and gap .28-.22 should be golden. just have to play around with what gap is better.

[USAF EP3]

Just for reference:
Stock spark plugs from NGK - IZFR6K11
Stock spark plugs from Denso - IK20L

Colder plug I found on google that everyone else is using (to my knowledge) is the NGK IRIWAY 8, BKR7EIX-11, or Denso IK22's.

The plugs I'm running are the NGK Iridiums Part number: NGK-BKR8EIX


I'll get pictures of the pipe and where to cut tonight, right now I gotta get dress and report in for duty, lol.

[jones02]

http://www.clubrsx.com/clubep3/GTE-21229.html

should that rad hose work also?

[japarossa]

yeah thats the same as the napa hose

[jones02]

the tb is 60mm? so the 2.25" - 3" coupler is way off. 60mm is only 2.4" so 2.25" - 2.5" coupler would be better?

[1fasthb]

what is the rad hose for?

[USAF EP3]

the tb is 60mm? so the 2.25" - 3" coupler is way off. 60mm is only 2.4" so 2.25" - 2.5" coupler would be better?

Whoaa, who told you our TB's were 60mm? They're about 63mm in diameter but the outside where the coupler goes is about 70.

If our TB's were only 60, then MaxBore wouldn't be able to taper out the opening to 70mm lol.

Yes, you need the 3" to 2.25" coupler, I'm using that right now.

[japarossa]

the tb is 60mm? so the 2.25" - 3" coupler is way off. 60mm is only 2.4" so 2.25" - 2.5" coupler would be better?
You need a 3"x2.25" reducer for the TB connection


what is the rad hose for?
The rad hose is needed to give enough clearance around the BOV and IC piping, otherwise your upper rad pipe will be sitting on your BOV.

[1fasthb]

ok so from the front list of things i "might" want to get what is most need'd beside kpro, injectors, fuel pump, and rad hose anyything else i should get that is like a must get for this kit?

[japarossa]

You will need the 3"x2.25" silicone reducer, dumptube, 3" air filter, Weld-on 10AN bung for oil pan and boost gauge should do it.

[AKEP]

what is the rad hose for?
better clearance for intake piping

[jones02]

I was going by what kris the crsx guy was saying for that coupler. He said the od of the tb is closer to a 2.75" then a 3" cuz I was going to order it along with my other shit. But they don't even carry a 2.25-3" but if the OD of the TB is 70mm that is 2.75" anyways? so you guys are using a coupler thats 1/4" bigger then the TB?

[USAF EP3]

better clearance for intake piping

I didn't run into this issue....my BOV is actually sitting way below the upper radiator piping.

Anyone using the eyelet hole on the charge piping for the IATsensor?? I am, and I'm not running into any boost leaks, then again I'm only pushing about 7.5 psi lol.

[japarossa]

I was going by what kris the crsx guy was saying for that coupler. He said the od of the tb is closer to a 2.75" then a 3" cuz I was going to order it along with my other shit. But they don't even carry a 2.25-3" but if the OD of the TB is 70mm that is 2.75" anyways? so you guys are using a coupler thats 1/4" bigger then the TB?

My coupler is 3"x2.25" and it fits, it definately doesn't have a 1/4" of play. Even my old CAI was 3" and came with a 3" straight coupler.

[AKEP]

i bought a kragen 3"x2.5" and it fits fine.

my problem now is i need a base map to run my k24a2 with the kit. it runs like shit with a modified jrsc basemap -_-

and i might be crazy but i think my shit spools at like 2k LOL

[japarossa]

LoL I thought the K24a2 would make this turbo spool up really fast, with the a3 I used to spool up around 3000-3500.

[gtimportfanatic]

haha fuckin awesome.. yeah i wass spooled by 3000 with my kit... im dying to do my high comp build

[Onasty]

mine spooled up quick also...But those days are done since im puttin the car back to stock today

[ep3jd]

I'll be over this weekend to purchase everything, thanks

POOPTOOTH loves Tapatalk :tehe:

[BlueCTSi]

Im guessing you also needed a battery relocating kit, for this kit.

[AKEP]

no, unless you get bigger piping. i'll post pics in a bit.

[superchargedk20]

mine spooled up quick also...But those days are done since im puttin the car back to stock today

So wat was the point of turboing ur ep and doing the cams? U had that setup for like 5 months only lol

[superchargedk20]

Im guessing you also needed a battery relocating kit, for this kit.

U dont. But usually those kits come with small piping for the intake. And where they sit can caus some heat soak. We did 3 1/2 inch pipe for mine and a longer tubing. So battery was relocated

[BlueCTSi]

U dont. But usually those kits come with small piping for the intake. And where they sit can caus some heat soak. We did 3 1/2 inch pipe for mine and a longer tubing. So battery was relocated
Thanks for the info guys!!! I'm hoping I can also be boosted by the end of the summer and this thread is golden with all of the info you guys have put together.

[AKEP]

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/9015/18398810150090390856384.jpg

here you can see my rad hose clearance, its kinda squeezed against the battery, so i/you could probably snip some off the engine side. then the pipe going behind the battery.

[japarossa]

You should be able to get a little more clearance if you loosen the clamp on the radiator and rotate the hose a bit so its not resting right on the IC pipe. Mine looked the same but mine didn't touch the pipe. But that looks like a good install, what intake manifold did you use?

[superchargedk20]

im amped up to see some emusa dyno sheets from u guys

[1fasthb]

anyone got anymore install pic's of the full engine bay setup and also a outside pic of how the front mount looks on the car as well

[AKEP]

I'll post more up again. Cause I didn't have m USB cord for the last one.

I used the stock prb manifold. I have an rbc on the way too.

[1fasthb]

oh and another dumb question but what kpro do i need to get? base 02 ep Retail price (ECU must be sent to Hondata or authorized installer)? K-Pro with new Honda PRB ECU based off US RSX-S? im lost with this ecu stuff here, also when i send them my ecu and get it back do i just plug it in my car and it will run like it did befor or do i have to tune it right then and there so my car will start and run like it did befor or how does this work

[AKEP]

easiest and cheapest thing to do is send in your ecu to have kpro installed on it. it only takes 2-3 days to have done.

you can if you want, buy another ecu, but watch out for 05-06 rsx-s ecu's as they cost a couple hundred more to get kpro installed. you can read more at hondata's website.

[jones02]

been calling these guys for 3 days now, beenwaiting 2 week and go nothing in and they dnt pick up there phone or email back. starting to think these guys are full of it. wastold shoul have it 4 days ago..

[japarossa]

I would get on them, Fedex shouldn't take more than a week. They haven't even given you a tracking number yet?

[jones02]

No tracking number no replies to any emails, I called them about 15times today alone and no one awnsers.

[japarossa]

That is really strange, they have always been there for me within a day of emailing them. I'm going to email them about my v-band kit and see if they reply or maybe just email them with a random question about something.

[AKEP]

like i said earlier, i dont think they check email. i'd just call them.

if its been storming they might not even be at work. i tried to order mine on a monday but that monday they had an ice storm and didn't work.

[jones02]

so they email me and say sorry for taking 2 fucking weeks to msg back and they said they have "problems" with there phone. ha witch is a line of BS but anyways, they didnt awnser any of my questions i asked other then theydidnt get around to shipping it fedex witch i payed extra for.. and they didnt even ship with ups. they shipped with usps. now last time someone shipped stuff for me with them, i had to go to windsor to get it from customs. not very happy so far with them...

[AKEP]

customs suck. sorry man.

[1fasthb]

so they email me and say sorry for taking 2 fucking weeks to msg back and they said they have "problems" with there phone. ha witch is a line of BS but anyways, they didnt awnser any of my questions i asked other then theydidnt get around to shipping it fedex witch i payed extra for.. and they didnt even ship with ups. they shipped with usps. now last time someone shipped stuff for me with them, i had to go to windsor to get it from customs. not very happy so far with them...

move to america :D j/j but yea shipping sucks either way

[jones02]

its not customs im pissed about its how i payed extra for fedex.

[japarossa]

Well the good thing about shipping with USPS is that it probably won't cost you anything more at the door. Mine came fedex with a $250 declared value and cost me another $78. I know it sucks now but that will all go away nextweek when you are boosting your car!!! Jones02 who is doing your install? You going to tackle it yourself?

[jones02]

ya me and a buddy are going to do it. we did every other swap in other civics so i think a k24 swap and a turbo shouldnt be anything hard. but 1 thing.. i have a k24a1 sitting here right now but i found a k24a2 with 40k on it for 1200 i got my a1 for 600 with 50k would i make more power with the a2 then th a1 even if i do a type s head swap?

[AUTiger]

For ease of the situation, I would just pick up the k24a2. If you planned to install the a1 first and then do a headswap, it's a bitch to do with the motor in the car. I have an a1 now and I refuse to swap on an a2 head while the motor is in the car. The k24a2 has beefier rods than the a1, however the a1 has a lower compression which is always better for boost. If you have the cash, I would pick up the k24a2, that is a hell of a deal.

[jones02]

im trying to find some other peoples dyno numbers with a boosted a2 but havnt found shit with a log mani, i seen one with a afi kit hitting 456whp with a stock a2, i guess i dont really want to go thru all that bs with the block off shit and tappin the head.

[AKEP]

the tapping is cake.

[jones02]

my kit left customs this morning at 7:30 i says, hopefully i get ittomorow!! im getting very excite! lol

[superchargedk20]

im trying to find some other peoples dyno numbers with a boosted a2 but havnt found shit with a log mani, i seen one with a afi kit hitting 456whp with a stock a2, i guess i dont really want to go thru all that bs with the block off shit and tappin the head.

have u gone to crsx? im sure theres tons of dynos there u can see

[pino1]

Would the turbo need an oil restrictor?

[japarossa]

Would the turbo need an oil restrictor?
Yes it does and it comes in the kit.

[jones02]

Duty ended up being 40 bucks so not bad at all. the packaging was so shitty!! everything loose thrown in there. ha and my pipe for my bov, he said he can put the one on for a hks bov and no lol i duno how to post pics or i would!

[AKEP]

what happened to the bov pipe?

[jones02]

duno how to post pics or id show you

[japarossa]

Mine was packed pretty crappy to but nothing was damaged. The BOV pipe I got with mine could be used for the greddy knock-off that came with the kit or with the HKS that I have on it now.
You need to upload the pics with photobucket or something like that and then enter the [IMG] link in your post

[jones02]

but the hks flange is round with a clip thing to keep it in, and the bovpipe isnt. its for liek a greddy bov. and the welds are so bad lol holes like crazy

[jones02]

http://mob642.photobucket.com/albums/uu149/jones02_photo/utf-8BSU1HLTIwMTEwMzA4LTAwMDY3LmpwZw.jpg

[jones02]

im a noob to this but i havea flange tht came with the bov and thehole thats in the pip is way to big? so i duno what to do? and bad packing isnt even the start of it lol ill post a pic of the way the intercooler was.

[jones02]

http://mob642.photobucket.com/albums/uu149/jones02_photo/utf-8BSU1HLTIwMTEwMzA4LTAwMDUzLmpwZw.jpg

open laying in the bottom on the box with the DP and shit thrown ontop?

[AKEP]

http://mob642.photobucket.com/albums/uu149/jones02_photo/utf-8BSU1HLTIwMTEwMzA4LTAwMDY3LmpwZw.jpg


http://mob642.photobucket.com/albums/uu149/jones02_photo/utf-8BSU1HLTIwMTEwMzA4LTAwMDUzLmpwZw.jpg

open laying in the bottom on the box with the DP and shit thrown ontop?

damn mine was packed hella nice. everything had a box. and you got a black SSQV?!

my boxes were beat up but there was Styrofoam everywhere

the greddy flange is just that, a greddy flange. they sent me an extra pipe with an hsk flange, and the ssqv i got came with another hks flange...lol

edit: now that i think of it, maybe customs did it like that? don't they inspect these things? (idk how customs work...)

[jones02]

I got it for cheap! Lol buddy was hard up for cash :) but I duno how I'm gunna do this now? Email them and be like wtf? Or just get a new one made? Or you wanna get rid you yours? Lol

[jones02]

edit: now that i think of it, maybe customs did it like that? don't they inspect these things? (idk how customs work...)

yea thats what i was thinking.

[gtimportfanatic]

def customs.. i got my kit all together neat and in own boxes

[japarossa]

http://mob642.photobucket.com/albums/uu149/jones02_photo/utf-8BSU1HLTIwMTEwMzA4LTAwMDY3LmpwZw.jpg
See mine looked like that to but the 2 bolt flange wasn't welded it was just held in place with a snap ring, so I removed the snap ring and put on the HKS. Are you sure thats welded? Does that 2 bolt flange turn?

[AKEP]

mine was welded. i did ask for a greddy flange on it though

[jones02]

Ya its welded and very bad at that

[japarossa]

Thats to bad, this was mine when I got it and the flange you see isn't welded just a snap ring. Also in the pic you can see the box the Intercooler came in with foam to protect it, not just loose in the bottom of the box. Everything was in its own box inside the big box and wasn't opened by customs.
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/sironzex/turbosetup007.jpg

[jones02]

http://mob642.photobucket.com/albums/uu149/jones02_photo/utf-8BSU1HLTIwMTEwMzA5LTAwMDY5LmpwZw.jpg

[japarossa]

That looks like a nasty weld, non of my welds looked like that. You can see some in the pic and they look good. Looks like they are making a lower quality kit now. Did you get a flange with your HKS? I have the same BOV and got a flange with it. If you had the flange its a pretty easy fix but I know thats not the point, you asked for a different flange and didn't get it.

[jones02]

http://mob642.photobucket.com/albums/uu149/jones02_photo/utf-8BSU1HLTIwMTEwMzA5LTAwMDcxLmpwZw.jpg
bad pic but look at the "welds" inside there.

http://mob642.photobucket.com/albums/uu149/jones02_photo/utf-8BSU1HLTIwMTEwMzA5LTAwMDcwLmpwZw.jpg
i have this flange..

http://mob642.photobucket.com/albums/uu149/jones02_photo/utf-8BSU1HLTIwMTEwMzA5LTAwMDcyLmpwZw.jpg
could i weld it on like this

http://mob642.photobucket.com/albums/uu149/jones02_photo/utf-8BSU1HLTIwMTEwMzA5LTAwMDczLmpwZw.jpg
but this is what it looks liek in the tube. would that be bad?

[japarossa]

I would cut off the old flange but leave the little pipe of pipe sticking up. Then have it welded onto that, it will look better than the sides of the old flange hanging out. Also I would mark the extra piece sticking down inside and trim it to be flush with the inside of the pipe before you weld it on. Crazy the flange on mine is so different.

[jones02]

there sending me out another one, and on the intercooler do you get tabs put on the top of it to mount it to te steel bumper? if so how big were tey? my step dad works at a steel place so im gunna get them to weld on a coupe things of aluminum if i have to.

[1fasthb]

Thats to bad, this was mine when I got it and the flange you see isn't welded just a snap ring. Also in the pic you can see the box the Intercooler came in with foam to protect it, not just loose in the bottom of the box. Everything was in its own box inside the big box and wasn't opened by customs.
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/sironzex/turbosetup007.jpg

just wondering but why do u have 2 honata kpro ecu's?

[superchargedk20]

I only see one lol

[japarossa]

just wondering but why do u have 2 honata kpro ecu's?
Only 1 ECU in the pic and the box it came in.


there sending me out another one, and on the intercooler do you get tabs put on the top of it to mount it to te steel bumper? if so how big were tey? my step dad works at a steel place so im gunna get them to weld on a coupe things of aluminum if i have to.
I wouldn't weld it, just use the bolt holes on the top and bottom to mount it. I just used some 1.25" w X 4" L aluminum that you can pick up in a 2 foot length at home depot. I used a vice to give it the little bend it needs. Then I just drilled 2 holes in the bumper and 1 underneath the rad support. It mounts up pretty easy.

[1fasthb]

Only 1 ECU in the pic and the box it came in.


I wouldn't weld it, just use the bolt holes on the top and bottom to mount it. I just used some 1.25" w X 4" L aluminum that you can pick up in a 2 foot length at home depot. I used a vice to give it the little bend it needs. Then I just drilled 2 holes in the bumper and 1 underneath the rad support. It mounts up pretty easy.

oh lol

[japarossa]

i bought a kragen 3"x2.5" and it fits fine.

my problem now is i need a base map to run my k24a2 with the kit. it runs like shit with a modified jrsc basemap -_-

and i might be crazy but i think my shit spools at like 2k LOL

Can you post up your datalog you made with the JRSC tune? I just want to see what it looked like to see if I'm going to be able to work with it to make my street tune. Have you done any additional tuning since you first datalogged it?

[AKEP]

I didn't datalog, or drive the car yet for that matter...

ps. thank god joe didn't delete this thread. i would have left ephatch.

[MugenReplica]

Info is looking good in here.:rockon:

[AKEP]

If this damn down pipe fit better (too long and 2 bolt), this kit would be straight gold. that is the only problem i've had. and some ic mounting brackets...

[jones02]

can you guys post picsof the IC brakets you guys made?

[MugenReplica]

Can you buy the EMUSA kit sans turbo?

[AKEP]

you could ask, it would take like 120 off.

[socal_brandon2]

I'm thinking about picking this up. Anyone posted their k-pro calibrations? I tried searching the thread but nothing turned up.

[AUTiger]

I am picking up a rebuilt emusa turbo with garrett internals on April 9th from a local for $80 and I already have a Tial wastegate. So when it comes time to order the kit, I am going to inquire about leaving both of those out or just the wastegate, that way i have a spare turbo to send off and get rebuilt or get the price of the kit dropped down $120-150. I know they only took $25 for one member that got it without the BOV.

Just remember, the downpipe that comes with the kit only works with the emusa turbo, you would have to get the flange cut off, rotated, and re-welded if you went with say a turbonetics or garrett turbo.

[MugenReplica]

I am picking up a rebuilt emusa turbo with garrett internals on April 9th from a local for $80 and I already have a Tial wastegate. So when it comes time to order the kit, I am going to inquire about leaving both of those out or just the wastegate, that way i have a spare turbo to send off and get rebuilt or get the price of the kit dropped down $120-150. I know they only took $25 for one member that got it without the BOV.

Just remember, the downpipe that comes with the kit only works with the emusa turbo, you would have to get the flange cut off, rotated, and re-welded if you went with say a turbonetics or garrett turbo.

Good info. Thanks for posting this up. If I jump on this, I have my old Holset HX35 with a 3" downpipe that'll just need to be cut and rotated from my old SVO. Hopefully it'll work with just the rotation and work with the extra 3" exhaust parts I have sitting around.

[japarossa]

[/QUOTE]Just remember, the downpipe that comes with the kit only works with the emusa turbo, you would have to get the flange cut off, rotated, and re-welded if you went with say a turbonetics or garrett turbo.[/QUOTE]

If you go with a turbo other than the emusa turbo you will need a totally new flange, the 5 bolt pattern only lines up with the emusa turbo. I tried it with my turbonetics (garrett 5 bolt) and the bolt holes were way off.

[pino1]

Well guys, i bought this kit and its currently being held up at customs right now, what I'm wondering is if im missing anything.
I currently have
- modded injectors to 520cc
- 3" exhaust piping along with vibrant flat black muffler
- boost gauge
- vacuum block
- K-Pro

I'm currently just waiting on the kit to come to my door, so pretty much , would i be needing anything else?

[AKEP]

3" 3 bolt flange if you want it to bolt up to another exhaust. the dp comes with a 2 bolt. and its too long.
just read the first post, there should be most, if not, everything you need.

[AUTiger]

you will need a dumptube, I would upgrade the oil lines and weld or drill and tap for a 10an fitting on your oil pan, a hondata map sensor(if you want to go over 10psi), a walbro in-tank pump, and a boost controller. The dumptube is necessary, all the rest I mentioned is recommended especially if you are trying to reach 300hp.

[AKEP]

forgot about the dump tube, either one from ebay will work.

[AUTiger]

but the kit doesn't come with one right? therefore he would need to get one

[pino1]

I see, thanks alot akep and autiger
now for the first post, it says m14x1.5 banjo bolt, thats for the return line right? something to make the return line similar to the greddy oil return line?

[japarossa]

I see, thanks alot akep and autiger
now for the first post, it says m14x1.5 banjo bolt, thats for the return line right? something to make the return line similar to the greddy oil return line?

yup, thats it. Its what I used to make the emusa return line into a copy of the greddy line.

[japarossa]

This is my K20a3 tune with the EMUSA kit installed running 8 psi
550cc injectors

[AKEP]

yeah it has no dumptube. im tired but ill post japas kal on post 1 later. and i need dres permission to upload his too.

also updated post 1 earlier t reflect what you need to buy, vs what you should buy.

i would highly reccomend everything under what you should buy.

oh yeah japa, lmk how those oil lines were ran with the k24a2...i clocked my cartridge and now its a pita to reach one of the retun line bolts. leaky =[ if i clock it back the top line gets crushed

[japarossa]

It's definately a pita to get to those lines, I had a hard time doing it lasttime with the motor in the car. Mine was super tight on the a3 so this time I got a fitting to 90 the oil line at the restrictor. When I had it on the a3 it took me a few times to clock the center perfectly so that the oil would drain but not pinch off the feedline. My motor is back out of the car so I could properly weld in the oil return bung. I am going to start working on getting it back in over the weekend and will let you know how it goes with the 90* fitting. I'm going to have the video camera going from empty engine bay to start up, just hopefully its not an 8 hour video lol

[AKEP]

lol. well i gave in, and just now ordered a 90* from fast turbo. while the turbo is off this time i might clock it straight(er) again. and tighten that return line while its off. fml. are you loading the snail from the drivers side?

[japarossa]

[quote] are you loading the snail from the drivers side?

Not sure what you mean by this?

[AKEP]

the turbo. r u installing it before you get the motor in or after?

[japarossa]

I'm going to install the motor with the turbo and oil lines already on the motor, it was a nightmare doing it with the motor in the car last time. Right now my car and motor look like this.
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/sironzex/newest106.jpg
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/sironzex/newest109.jpg
Believe it or not I'm planning on turning the key by monday

[AKEP]

hey does anyone know what size the oil feed fitting is for the kit? fast turbo said all their lines run -3 so just wanted to make sure it would fit before it was ordered.

[japarossa]

You mean to fit the restrictor plate on the turbo? Mine was a 4AN fitting that I bought. I'm going to scrap that idea now and just go with a new feed line with the 90 built in. I wish fast-turbo shipped to Canada.